Wednesday characters in DnD
So I've been thinking, what kind of Dungeons and Dragons (or like any other fantasy rpg, with all the OGL stuff) character would each Wednesday character enjoy to play? Let's think about it, shall we?
Wednesday Addams
I feel like, out of everyone, Wednesday would enjoy to play a character that is close to herself. Just think of Viper, the chronically misunderstood teenage detective. So what would that mean? Rogue.
Hear me out. Wednesday likes to be an expert at things she deems interesting: torture, taxidermy, fencing, writing, cello, stealth. She also does not seem to enjoy her visions too much, so going with a less magic focused class would make sense. And the nail in the coffin: rogues are good alone (the typical loner class), but they are even better in a team. Getting a sneak attack is easier with your friends around, and if this is not the message of the final battle, I don't know what else it could be.
Bonus: Thing would absolutely be a Cleric with high insight, or a Monk with unarmed strikes.
Tyler Galpin
So, yeah, I might be biassed with this one, but I think he would not particularly like to play a character like himself, but end up doing something like that anyway.
He might be called to the Barbarian class, as the Rage feature is something he would clearly understand, and could utilize it in a smart way. But it might hit a bit too close to home for him, being angry all the time.
Then there are Rangers with their built in outdoorsy nature and.. well magical racism. He does know his way in the great outdoors, knows hunting tricks, so this could easily be an outlet for some of his interests (yes, even the magical racism; he might be able to process it better once he lets himself realize, that he is also in the Favored Enemy group).
My last candidate for him would be Warlock, and again, this might hit a nerve for him, but I feel like this could be a great way for him to process what happened to him. What do I mean? He made a deal with someone, and in exchange for certain services he got information and power to enact revenge. He probably wouldn't have made the deal knowing the nature of his duties, but it is too late now. Also, fun fact, Warlocks keep their powers even if they break their pact. It is a gift/curse they cannot escape from.
The boy could use some healing and roleplaying can be a good outlet for that.
Enid Sinclair
She is an interesting one. I think she would love to play someone at least as charismatic and fun as herself, and playing in a more supportive role would also satisfy her people-pleaser nature. So what I'm trying to say is Bard, probably.
You could argue that a Cleric or Druid would also do the trick, if she wants to focus on support, but I don't she would like the Druid's reminder of animal transformation. Cleric on the other hand could be a good fit, you can stand your ground, help your friends, be an absolute badass.
At the same time Bard is just so much fun, with the expertise, charisma, performance. I think she would enjoy it.
Xavier Thorpe
He is an artist, so that would mean Bard, right? I'm not so sure about it. Yes he likes to paint and draw, but to be honest, I don't think he would be that into the high charisma aspect; might remind him of his dad.
So what else does he enjoy? Not his prophetic visions, for sure. But there is archery, and he does fencing as well. That could guide us to Ranger or Fighter, but I don't take him as a nature loving person, so maybe Fighter? A ranged Fighter with Painter's supply proficiency. I don't think he would enjoy the dangers of close combat.
Bianca Barclay
Once again, someone who would not enjoy playing a character with the same set of skills as herself. I think she would enjoy playing someone intelligent, a self-made genius, a Wizard, if you will.
She enjoys being the best in every situation and I think she would enjoy coming up with creative spell uses. At the same time, I think she would not mind being in the middle of a fight, so she would pack some spells for surviveability.
My other idea would be a Fighter, but she would play it like a strategist. Doing close combat, while also instructing the others what to do.
Hell, a level 2 Fighter, level x Wizard would be so perfect for her - in a slightly optimizer way.
Eugene Ottinger
I cannot leave him out, he is too precious.
He would absolutely use this opportunity to show of, how cool bees can be, so either Ranger (Swarmkeeper, if we go with official subclasses just this once) or Druid. And he would absolutely kill it.
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when i said i would have deranged rant abt c!zam yesterday i thought i was going to have derangements abt s4 zam. and that wasnt entirely false i am also having derangements about s4 zam but im also having derangements about s3 (just rewatched the finale with some friends and remembered why zam's s3 finale was the video that made me go Oh. i CARE about lifesteal now huh)
anyway i'm thinking about s3 finale era zam showing up to meet with spoke ready for a fight. his inventory full of gapples and cobwebs and potions. eighteen hearts. and he uses them! he throws regen on spoke and he puts cobwebs beneath spoke so spoke can't kill himself by jumping off the mountain and he throws spoke two hearts and gapples and begs him to use them. i'm thinking about, after spoke comes back, zam spawntrapped. refusing to give up, hitting spoke over and over again with a stone axe that does nothing as spoke kills him over and over. i'm thinking about spoke, a bit earlier, saying: doesn't this sound familiar? and he's talking about zam's own suicide-by-execution after the fall of the princezam empire, and he's not wrong, but his words also echo into their future, into s4: vitalasy in the end base, putting subz in cobwebs, throwing him hearts and gapples, begging him not to kill himself; zam with a stone sword, hitting roshambo over and over. i'm thinking about spoke, even earlier than that: lifesteal works in cycles. because it does, doesn't it? it's all the same thing. they're not the same people but also they kind of are. thinking about zam yelling i ruined it! it's all my fault! if anyone should be banned, it should be me! because he's the same person as the one who banned himself earlier in s3, the same person who almost banned himself twice in s4. because even though spoke's his enemy spoke's also his friend and he doesn't want spoke to die. he brought stuff to kill spoke but he doesn't want to ban spoke, doesn't want spoke to kill himself. he's trying to save the server from getting banned (even his enemies) and spoke is trying to ban the server (even himself). in voiceover in his video zam says "i couldn't save spoke." he couldn't save spoke. he tried to save spoke. his enemy! his enemy who spawnkills him twice in the same video! zam couldn't save him. spoke asking why zam is still trying. but zam has to save things just like spoke has to destroy things. zam can't give up because he just-- can't, it's not his nature, across seasons and servers zam Does Not Give Up. even when it kills him. maybe especially when it kills him. i keep coming back to the cobwebs and the gapples and the regen pots. he brought them to kill spoke and he's trying to use them to save spoke's life. MAN. man! in conclusion. sorry for being stuck on a thing that happened in s3. as if it's my fault
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If amnesia Gregory is actually canon then man I feel bad for him because imagine waking up out of nowhere then you find out you killed people and feeling guilty about it, not even therapy (again) can save both Vanessa and Greg
it's even more awful when you realize that Gregory would have had to begin remembering and learning about his time as GGY later in time, when hes living with Vanessa with Freddy and they've already healed a bit.
Vanessa would probably know, and Freddy seems like he doesn't remember being under the virus at any point. So Vanessa would have to acknowledge that he was like her but that he doesnt know or remember, unlike her, and she struggles with the memories so much that she just wants to save him from that
so she hides it from him, and everything's going good until Gregory starts having dreams at night that feel more like memories and suddenly one day he wakes up and remembers that he was GGY and Dr Rabbit and the wizards most favored apprentice and that he killed people
and theres just so much tension because all of Gregory's healing progress is down the drain and hes worse than ever and angry at Vanessa for knowing and hiding it from him because he found out in the worst way
and he gets more and more memories recovered from dreams at night like remembering some of his life before GGY and everything, and hes just upset to know that although there wasnt much lost when he got taken over, his life before wasnt good either and he barely had people who cared about him, but not enough to realize something's wrong
so Gregory has a lot of feelings to sort through
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ur hitting us w/ all the fatalistic endings, but is there one where things dont go bad? no heroes, no mortality, no fall? pls spare a crumb of happiness
okay u know I was just going to beg 4 forgiveness and say that Gortcas doesn’t really have a “good” ending (this is still true) because of who they are as people, you know.... men that will just drive whatever they’re doing to such an extreme that I see it as impossible for them to just end normally. Like if it’s not their conquest and need for power driving them to their ultimate fate it’s them as people just ruining each other sooner or later etc etc u know what I mean
BUT… there is more or less an ending to me that I usually enjoy entertaining the most where Cas’ story intertwines with the story of Jace (my main oc. my face. my pfp I know he does exist outside of serving cunt sometimes….) and it's well, not necessarily "happy" but it leaves it open enough that they might just be fine rn 💖
anyways Jace was, while Cas was in the Hells still, Mephistopheles' advisor but clearly for his own gain. I’m not going to elaborate TOO much about who or what Jace is but tldr is that Jace was the one making sure Cas survives long enough to get out of the Hells after he got disgraced and wounded by Mephistopheles and later on functions a bit as an informant about whats going on in the Nine Hells. (Why? Let’s just say Jace is something like a…. Aeon that started to rebel against Ao and the concept of balance and then fell from grace as well, ending up hiding as some common devil with a bit too much knowledge of what might happen)
Much later when Cas confronts Bhaal Jace basically offers him a deal where he wants Cas to allow him to take his place as a new God instead and he will give him the powers and position of an Archdevil, basically allowing him to return back to the Nine Hells. Cas, who, as I mentioned before at some point, was VERY scared of losing himself (as in change as a person beyond recognition) if he becomes a God and also having yearned to live freely in the Hells again for ages takes this offer. also because he knows that he’ll be powerful enough down there to extend Gortash’s life or even turn him half immortal as well as long as he has some freedom and access to the Hells secrets/magic again
To me this is the only “ending” to the current plot that is, I suppose, not horrendously tragic because it just leads into another timeline where Cas and Gortash end up fucking around in the Nine Hells instead and begin challenging the Lords of the Nine 4 power (what else do you see them doing. lets be honest) … also Cas finally gets a shot at revenge on Mephistopheles as well 🙏 I'm not saying whatever is going on in the Hells will necessarily end well for them but it ALLOWS for a slightly better final end which I will not write. be free kings, try not to die horribly🔥
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so… in the additional media of stranger things (specifically the comics i’m mentioning), it was initially brenner’s idea/plan to kill off the other test subjects because they weren’t performing as well as eleven was. it was his best solution because that way, all the resources, time, and money could instead be placed only to her. and i just…. sure henry is a fine character and the massacre makes a lot of sense to me, but i think i am once again gonna change up my canon to actually fit this potential narrative instead.
i genuinely think the comic canon of the lab and brenner is far more intriguing than the show. everything with 9/9.5, ricky, and francine. eleven being the only one who grew up completely in the lab. those other kids were either volunteers, well into their teens, or had some semblance of a home life. eleven was the only one practically moulded from the womb. and they all had such a range of interesting powers. i firmly stand with the idea that jane is the only one who can contact the void.
brenner’s entire point of view on the lab subjects changed the second he found out terry was pregnant. he discovered he could steal this baby and make her his own. there would be no convincing the child because it’s all she would have ever known. because of this, i would not put it past a man like brenner to kill the other subjects for the sake of the “greater good” in this case, eleven.
eleven’s gifts just continue thriving beyond his wildest expectations. brenner would never dare assume that having moulded her from the womb, she would still be able to grow into her own person, her own mind, and one day be able to see him for exactly who he was.
back before season four aired, it was obvious there were other test subjects because jane was 011. so there were at least ten kids before her. but i always liked the idea/assumed that she was the last experiment because she was the most successful. that they didn’t need anyone after her because she was fulfilling everything they set out for her to do. with flying colours.
i just think the whole rainbow room idea, pitting the kids against each other thing… been there, done that. boring and predictable. i think at this point my portrayal of her time in hawkins lab really stems from the complete isolation she endured. where having the rainbow room, although eleven was obviously the most isolated out of the kids, brings that sense of community and sister/brotherhood. albeit extremely warped and toxic. knowing that she wasn’t alone in that experience just. doesn’t sit well with me. i think it’s important to note that she was alone, physically and mentally. which is why kali is also so important to her growth. i thought a lot of the flashbacks of her time in the lab during season four was really boring, repetitive, and just very predictable. although peter becoming vecna was a surprise to me, and was a nice little twist, the idea of her having an ally on the inside was really interesting.
maybe they did get as far as they do in canon, peter ballad was telling the truth about everything, about some of the workers there being prisoners like him, and he really wanted to get her out and to safety. but before they can escape through the pipes, they’re caught. peter is shot on the spot, and eleven is put into the isolation room for a few days as punishment. in this timeline, henry would be vecna, but henry would not be peter ballad.
when eleven turned seven, and was already showing extreme promise, where the other children were average at best, brenner had the eight children killed. kali had already escaped. this was the main cause for peter to gain eleven’s trust and try to get her out. because if brenner could murder his “children” in cold blood, there’s no way eleven was safe even in spite of her power.
when eleven is allowed out of the isolation room, her testing becomes more rigorous in attempt to distance and make her forget about what she attempted to do with peter. brenner begins gaslighting her, saying that there was never a peter, that she must have been dreaming. eleven does ask “papa” about “mama”, given peter told her of the day terry broke in the lab, but brenner is convincing enough to make eleven believe it was all in her head. say she is around eight years old, meaning the same timeline of season fours canon flashbacks.
i still do wanna keep the henry creel canon, and keep him as 001. brenner didn’t have him killed alongside the other test subjects, because who knows, one day he could become an even better asset than 011. brenner definitely wants to be able to control henry, but keeps the chip in him because, for the moment, doesn’t know how. killing him would be too big of a loss.
when eleven is ten years old, henry’s concealed powers break free and he manages to get the chip out himself, and unleashes hell onto hawkins lab. he almost kills brenner by snapping his bones, but eleven manages to stop him. her extreme abilities are unleashed, and she sends henry to the upside down. she does fall into a coma due to the extremity of the situation, but she does not forget what happened. brenner believes she’s the perfect weapon as she stepped in to save him without a second thought, was able to defeat henry, and opened a door to something he never thought possible. eleven is rewarded for her efforts. although she remembers the entire battle / confrontation, her memories regarding the portal are very hazy.
brenner decides not to focus on the portal straight away, instead gets her training harder and harder to see what else she can accomplish. also loved the idea of brenner sending her into the void to “look for him” so that will definitely be kept.
by the time she escapes and season one begins, her knowledge of the upside down is basically what we see in canon. because she passed out the moment after she sent henry away, she was once again gaslighted into believing she merely threw him through the glass and killed him. for two years she believed this, until making contact with the demogorgan, and those memories return completely.
due to her saving brenner’s life, (it was pure instinct. she happened to be there. saw her “papa” hurt and knew she had to make him better.) brenner constantly thanks her. but in a very condescending way. tells her: “you saved me so i can continue saving you.” aka, harness your abilities and see what else i can achieve from you. despite the fact that she saved his life, these words and phrases make her feel indebted to him. that she owes him something further.
i don't realistically see her thriving with her speech improvement until she's well into her twenties at least. her slowed development, sensory and social deprivation causes a serious delay in language. surrounded by other children she would have overheard conversations, some would have spoken to her. her conveniently forgetting her upbringing pre the battle with henry just isn't good enough for me anymore. it makes more sense for her to have been raised alone.
it also helps indicate why she gravitated towards the boys when they found her in the woods. they would have been the first people her age she ever remembered seeing. as far as she knew, during the lab there was no one like her. everyone was much older, they were adults-- although she stayed with benny, i'm not sure if she would have stuck around very long. where she followed the boys home without thought.
also it's important to note that after time, jane does understand that peter ballad was a real person, and was truly the first person (aside from terry) who wanted the best for her. when she remembers him, knows that brenner was lying, she deals with immense guilt regarding his death. he was shot right in front of her eyes, because he was trying to help her. this is another catalyst as to why after season two, jane never refers to brenner as papa. she does not give him that sort of credit.
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