#but i just hate these damn double standards. your misogyny is showing

[oscconfessions]

All media, even kid's cartoons, are deserving of critical analysis. However, you must learn to forgive it if it's mediocre and not all greatly written. I like to be critical about II. Hell, I'm critical about all the object shows I watch, even the dumb joke shows. You should be too, *especially* if it's something you enjoy or it's your favourite or whatever. Enjoying a lame ass show and being critical about it are not mutually exclusive.

BUT you also have to pick which hills to die on. If you're too intense about reading into a show, you got to remind yourself it's not that serious. Take a damn breather. The people saying "It's just a kid's show," are right, but so are the ones saying it's important to be critical about it.

Ex. Knife and Taco or Silver and Cabby. Despite being alike, Cabby's treated much more harshly compared to Silver by the fandom and early III. There's a misogynistic double standard there. That's important to recognize. Some of you like Silver but hate Cabby for the same traits. (Not to mention how taking down notes was villainized when Cabby had memory problems. Imagine being shit on for keeping a journal). It's also similar to Knife and Taco. Knife is arguably way worse than Taco's track record. Taco is much more villainized by the fandom and the story, yet Knife is celebrated and swooned over despite being previously murderous in season 1. There's a double standard. This is critical analysis! These are instances of misogyny and ableism in II writing that they've since been trying to fix. And it's good to have discourse over this!

(Plus, it's important to recognize the passion behind these projects! Which is part of the reason why you have to be kinder to the creators. And, y'know. Not harass them so much.)

But, also, calm down. Lol. This is pee wee. Poo poo, even. You have to acknowledge the vibes of the show, and by that I mean how serious it takes itself. That's why BFDI doesn't have as much discourse. It stays silly. II tried doing something less sillier, but it is STILL silly. Eat your slop, but appreciate it and be critical about it too.

On that note, if you are not critical to even kid's media, I have zero respect for your opinions. 👑

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#confession #/ii

[spider-xan]

At the risk of opening myself up to misreadings bc I didn't go into enough extreme detail like I usually would to clearly explain myself and cover my ass, and being less diplomatic than usual, I think some of us just want some damn moral consistency! If you are going to (rightfully!) call out that Van Helsing is espousing ableist, racist, sexist, etc. eugenics, then you better be doing the same for Mina, considering she was enthusiastically sharing the exact same awful beliefs! She doesn't get a pass just bc she's a nice white lady, nor should you bend over backwards to try and argue that well actually, she is very progressive and only said awful things bc the big strong men were forcing her to do it, which would be at odds with the inaccurate super girlboss who takes no shit from the men readings that usually accompany these mental gymnastics to morally justify or sanitize her flawed moments!

And both of them are ultimately narrative devices written by a Victorian white man who was too interested in eugenics and thought it would be a great way to show how smart and like-minded both characters are, so there is that meta framework as well, but it should be applied consistently, not just for your faves to make them look better by comparison! No one in this novel is going to be without bigotry and biases, and that includes Mina, who has so far shown internalized misogyny and an interest in eugenics, and, I am sorry to say, is going to be using racist slurs as we move into the final part of the novel! And no, I am not saying that you have to hate and wish death on her like some people do on Van Helsing for his issues to be fair, or that you have to write posts about her being evil, or include a disclaimer on every post about her! Just be consistent in your critiques, and if you are not, then ask yourself why you have a double standard, and if it really is a situation where a double standard is justified!

#dracula #dracula daily #if you have fairly addressed the eugenics issue for both #then this isn't about you #and no this is not about defending van helsing either #nor is it about hating mina

[transfemstarscream]

animated blackarachnia is one of, if not the only decepticon to have an actual backstory; explaining her ‘demise’ and just how traumatized she was due to optimus and sentinel leaving her behind (to which she had no actual way of knowing that they didn’t want to) and angry that the two were so quick to presume her dead and then leave her for dead.

she was one of the only decepticons to have motives beyond wanting to gain power and/or conquer cybertron; unable to cope with her techno-organic form, the only thing she found worth fighting for was the ability to rid of it, even if it caused her massive pain as a result of her efforts. while the other decepticons were loyal to megatron in some way, or using him as a means to get power themselves… blackarachnia was part of the decepticons for neither, only using them as a way to get by and leaving with no hesitation when she got the chance to.

and she’s not a good person, mind you— she is a villain and her methods of getting by are very blatant examples of that. except for the fact her anger is justified; she has every right to be upset and heartbroken that her presumed friends left her behind to die. she has every right to not want to reunite with either of the two, because to her, they’re the ones who caused this, they’re the ones who left her, and they’re the ones who never bothered to ever check up on her again.

her personality isn’t even inherently evil. a flirt? yes. does she use that to her advantage? yes. but she barely does anything to “excite” the bots she enchants; all it took to get the dinobots on her side was a few chin rubs and a line of praise. she didn’t “break” dinobot’s heart, because she made it pretty clear that she had no interest in him from the get-go. do you also harp on shockwave for breaking blurr’s trust? or is that suddenly different, because your fanfic explains that shockwave actually cared about him, unlike nasty cruel blackarachnia?

her only real “completely evil” doing is what she did to waspinator, taking advantage of the fact he alone and had nowhere safe to go. but even then… you’re going to harp on her for that, while you let your male faces get away with worse? while you make excuses for your male villain faves and hyperanalyze one frame where they’re smiling about causing pain towards others, yet disregard blackarachnia’s entire character because she, a villain, actually did something very evil now?

blackarachnia is one of the only decepticons with a fully-fledged backstory, understandable motives, a fleshed out story and memorable personality… and this was all done in a singular episode! “along came a spider” is one of animated’s best examples of tragic storytelling and a sympathetic villain done right. she’s one of animated’s best written villains, and although i dislike the plans season 4 had for her, the fact her story holds so much weight and heartache because you wish things could’ve been better is such good writing. you wish there was a possibility for her to have a happy ending.

so yes, i do think it’s frustrating when people who have completely infantilized their male faves (megatron, shockwave, blitzwing, etc.) into unrecognizable soft boys who “truly didn’t mean all the harm they did!” make a plethora of excuses for every single bad thing they’ve done, overanalyze singular frames of them smiling and saying it’s proof that they’re “not as emotionless/evil as they seem” when they have done nothing to earn it and are so blatantly evil and manipulative that the show is literally banging you on the head saying they aren’t good people. i do think it’s frustrating that these are also the ones who furiously demonize blackarachnia, pulling the “her trauma doesn’t justify her actions!” while doing nothing to analyze her from different perspectives, harp on her for every single unconventional thing she’s done, and make such awful takes and essays on how she’s truly the most evil decepticon in the show, when she isn’t and is so much more than just that.

blackarachnia deserves better.

#.txt #long post #blackarachnia #this might come off really ramble-y so i’m sorry for that. #but i just hate these damn double standards. your misogyny is showing #(and you’re not doing a very good job at hiding it). #i hate tfa fans. i hate cyclonus. and i’m not very fond of you either! #she’s such a well-written character and the fact she’s shit on for the most mundane things infuriates me. sorry you never actually watched #the show tfa fans. maybe if you did i would listen to you.

[pollyaunt]

The one thing I noticed after joining ACOTAR fandom this year is the toxicity.

I think people most of the times tend to forget that this series is fictional including the characters. I'm a hard Elriel shipper and I'm proud of it. But I don't hate or dislike those who do not support this ship or ship other characters. (Gwenriel, Elucien)

The thing I witnessed the most in this fandom is the constant hate.

I mean we've not gotten a proper POV neither from Elain nor Azriel. And without knowing a character's personal opinions, there perspective and there thoughts ya'll actually can't judge them. That's totally unacceptable.

Secondly, yes to prove a point everyone tries to intercept or assume things from the context given to us like the bonus chapter, the whole series, the proper wording etc. That's totally normal and everyone has different opinions but proving your point by changing the whole context, the whole actual meaning of the book is really disturbing.

For example, I once saw a post for Gwenriel and it stated that Azriel saved Gwen from getting raped so it means he likes her and only has lust towards Elain.

Firstly to whoever thinks this way, hats off! I mean how could ya'll think like this? I hate this fandom the most at such moments.

Secondly, this is not just about your opinion on a certain character, This also shows your own mentality, your own perspective and how much wrong judgement you have on your mind.

Thirdly, don't forget ACOTAR won't be ACOTAR if Elain was unimportant or useless. Because she was the one who helped to talk to the queens for the book, she was the one who went to Grayson after she was made so that she can help, she was the ACTUAL person who killed the king of Hybern (Nesta only removed the head as she promised). And don't you dare say she's weak. I'll personally hunt you down.

Yes what the both sisters did with Feyre was way too horrible but they had redeemed themselves. Everyone hated Nesta so damn much before and once ACOSF was out, people started loving her overnight. What is this behavior?

We already clearly witnessed and went down this road of judging characters without there POVs. I thought maybe the people in this fandom have already realized how wrong they were and have learned from it but gods, unfortunately ya'll clearly haven't learned yet.

And lastly, if you still can't understand what I'm trying to say, just wait for the next ACOTAR book. Hating and fighting only will avoid people from joining this fandom cause it makes the fandom toxic. Instead all you can do is wait so just wait. Time will tell.

Fun Fact: Elain is hated while Azriel is loved even though both had there character development together; this is called double standards and misogyny. I love SJM books but the fandom? Way too poor 😪🤧 and I'm so much disappointed.

#acotar #elriel #a court of frost and starlight #acofas #acowar #acosf #gwenriel #elucian #a court of thorns and roses #a court of wings and embers #a court of silver flames #a court of wings and ruin #a court of mist and fury #elain acotar #azriel #gwen #lucien

[agent-jones]

Why Gwen Hate Is Rooted In Misogyny And How The Premise Of Torchwood Is Often Ignored In Order To Hate On Her

Hello, hi. Jacklynn here again to talk your head off about something I feel is important to address when it comes to Torchwood and its fandom. Now, you’ve seen me post my defence of her and her actions [ not condoning, always remember this ] but, this is more on why the hate she receives is absolutely rooted in misogyny whether you want to believe it is or not, especially when talking about the portrayal and reception of women over the years in media [ and, frankly, in society ] as well as the fact that Torchwood’s very premise explains why Gwen should not be so vitriolically hated by the fans.

First, let’s talk about one reason she’s hated: her personality. Oh. This one is just blatant. I’ve seen her called both boring AND bitchy. The first one is obvious to address and that’s the bitchy one. Women who are seen as strong and independent are often labelled as bitchy, while men who act in the same manner are respected and good leaders. This is just simply based on the patriarchy we live in, a woman must be docile and and quiet and if she’s stands for something she believes in, suddenly she’s considered loud and angry and a bitch. How many times have we heard those words thrown at feminists for standing up for women? And boring? If a woman isn’t shown to be fun all the time and up for anything [ see the movie Yes, Man and Zooey’s character ] she’s considered boring. This isn’t just Gwen, this has always been the world women are forced to live in: either you’re a slut or you’re a prude, you’re a bitch or you’re just boring. Comments like that about Gwen’s personality are just downright rooted in the everyday sexism women face in society.

Second, the double standard within the Torchwood fandom when it comes to Gwen’s affair. Cheating on Rhys is the number one reason I always see for Gwen hate. And you know what? It’s absolutely valid to criticise her on how she treated Rhys. It was selfish and she made bad decisions. But, you know what’s never addressed? The fact that Owen knew exactly what he was doing when he was tempting Gwen away from Rhys, purposefully trying to get her to cheat on him. He was very open about the fact that he “tortures people in happy relationships” because he wants to. But, he’s given a free pass for his actions. Why? Had the roles been reversed and Owen’s character was a woman, and Gwen’s a man, Owen’s character would have been considered a ‘homewrecking slut’ who didn’t care about the fact that the man she went after was in a relationship and would have been labelled as such and would have been crucified by the fandom as Gwen was for cheating.

Why? Why is Owen excused for his actions? He was far from innocent. Yes, it is ultimately Gwen’s relationahip, but it takes two to tango. Owen should be disliked just as much for purposefully intending to cause harm to Rhys and not caring for a single moment about the consequences of his actions.

Jack is also given a free pass when it comes to the Gwack stuff. I never understood why people claim that Gwen ‘threw herself at Jack’ when almost every scene which implied Gwack, Jack is the one making moves. He’s the one who does the sexy gun lesson, he’s the one who corners her in the cells and does version two of ‘I came back for you,’ he’s the one sending longing glances at her as she’s kissing Rhys. And yes, these things are returned. But, once again Jack is given a free pass when he knows Gwen is in a relationship and yet does not have the decency to honour that either.

So are we seeing the pattern when it comes to the biggest reason Gwen is hated? The men are given free passes and loved while the woman is given all the blame. Each one made their choices and none of them were good. So why does the fandom only punish the woman?

Also, I would like to quickly address that she also gets hate for ‘getting in the way of Jack and Ianto’ which A. Is absolutely untrue, she never once tries to get Jack to choose her over Ianto, never acts like it’s a competition, is never once anything but sweet to Ianto. She is supportive of them and is never canonically attempting to get between them. B. Is pretty damn close to fetishism and blaming women for ‘getting in the way of your m/m ship’ needs to be re-examined.

Now, as I mentioned above, the premise of the show is often ignored in order to hate on Gwen. RTD has stated that Torchwood is about flawed and real human beings trying to save the world. They are not outright heroes, and they never claim to be. They are doing their best but they are all still human.

Human beings make mistakes. Human beings have emotional reactions that are irrational. Human beings do bad things for selfish reasons. Human beings can be inherently good people who made bad decisions and they can also be inherently bad people who do good things some times. Human beings are flawed and that’s the point of the show.

Gwen was not written to be the antithesis to this. She was written as an outsider coming into this new world and quickly learning how it changes you and affects you and can even bring our your more human traits. She was simply brought in to bring a new perspective for the team, not because she’s better than them.

But, so often this premise of real human beings trying to save the world and do what they can is ignored in order to hate Gwen. She’s just as flawed as everyone else, she’s not more flawed or any worse than anyone else on the team. But, their flaws are either ignored or brushed off in order to love them.

Ianto is the fandom golden child. I get it. I adore him with my whole heart. But, he manipulated everyone on the team, emotionally manipulated Jack, used the team in order to do what he had to to save Lisa. He got innocent people killed. He’s been shown to resort to killing when it felt needed. He has a dark side and he is not without his own flaws. He betrayed Jack twice and then went behind his back again in Adrift. He is not perfect. He is good, but he is human and makes mistakes.

Owen is a self-proclaimed twat who spends the entirety of series one purposefully trying to get Gwen to cheat on her boyfriend, being an absolute dick to Tosh. Not to mention he full on date r**** two people in the first episode. He also betrays Jack and nearly ends the world trying to do what he thought was right. Owen makes mistakes. He does really fucked up shit, but that’s what Torchwood is isn’t it? He’s fucked up but he does what he can to save the world. We love him for his growth and don’t let his mistakes make him hated by the fandom.

Tosh isn’t perfect either. She invaded her teammates’ inner most private thoughts and brought an alien into Torchwood. Yes, she was manipulated into it, but she listened in on Gwen and Owen because she was jealous. Jealousy and pettiness are very much shown within Tosh’s character. From the comments she makes to Gwen about getting her feet under the table, to invading their privacy to her tension about Martha. Tosh made mistakes and she has some not very nice qualities to her personality. But, we love her because she’s Torchwood and she’s good and we can forgive her mistakes because she’s human.

Jack lived a conman’s life. He’s resorted to killing before asking questions, he’s physically tortured peopl. Jack refused to let his team know a single thing about him and kept them in the dark when the truth could have helped everyone. He abandoned them and for a long time was only using Torchwood as a way to wait for the Doctor to come back and he would leave. He makes decisions that other people wouldn’t, he tells Gwen to keep a hold of her life with Rhys but would have been the first in line to sleep with her had she asked him to. But, we love Jack because he is Jack Harkness and he cares and he does so much to save the world and takes so much weight on his shoulders. He is a flawed human being doing what he can to do good and we forgive him because we know he’s trying.

The other team members get the forgiveness of the premise of the show, and yet Gwen doesn’t. Why? She’s just as much part of the team and while she was written to be the protagonist and main character, the premise of the show still extends to her. So, why is she hated for falling under that same flawed human being saving the world umbrella that the rest of the team is protected by?

Anyway, I’m sure there’s more I could say on the matter. But, honestly what this boils down to is that I understand the other characters deserved more storylines and air time, what they gave Gwen wasn’t used well because the writers didn’t treat her well either.

But the constant need to tear Gwen down in order to love the other characters is absolutely unnecessary.

#Gwen Cooper #Torchwood #ianto jones #jack harkness #owen harper #toshiko sato #; I haven’t much left to say in the tags but there’s that

[katnissgirlsmakedo]

ok i try very hard to be a calm person and not get irrationally mad about fandom bullshit, but i’m also not going to sit here and act like i’m above having feelings about fandom bullshit. so here’s the thing about it. the way everyone pretends to be all feminist and like “oh i love (insert female character here)” and then NEVER ever talk about the aforementioned female character and only ever talk about men? is fake as hell and i can see right fucking through it! i’m not gonna tell anybody that they’re required to like all female characters no matter how badly written or without personality they are, but y’all will go insane over male characters without personalities all the damn time. i know half of you assholes at some point cared about marvel, i know you took part in shipping stevebucky. i know you bylers just invented a completely different personality for mike. i know stonathans are working double time on giving those guys an actual dynamic that’s nonexistent in the show. you know what else i know? no one is doing the same for the female characters. you can’t be all “i don’t have to like her since she’s badly written” and then you go and stan some random man who’s ALSO badly written. even when a female character is deliberately compared to a male character within the narrative, people will prefer the man. i don’t know how to tell you this but please check your internalized misogyny and your double standards because it’s really fucking annoying to see people act like they care about the way women are represented in media and then just hate and ignore every woman that’s represented in media

#long post #ok sorry i needed to throw a small tantrum i’ll be normal now <3 luv and light peach on earth #beth.txt

[where-fading-princesses-live]

double standards

So I was watching this very interesting video last night...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di_R6Md-L80

And around 6:43, he talks about the classic Mary Sue trope and how, if you have a male character in a work of fiction who is presented as equally perfect and free of flaw (in other words, a Gary Stu), the criticism is less harsh towards him, or in some cases, nearly nonexistent. Some might even say he's a total bad-ass and how dare you find fault in someone so impossibly cool? But if they're female? Good god, it's bad writing and anti-feminist. People seem to be generally way more accepting of male archetypes who fall under this trope than the likes of their female counterparts, hence double standards. You see this all the time in action flicks for instance. Arnold Schwarzenegger films, anyone? James Bond whomst??? But suddenly you have Rey who's arguably not better or worse than the likes of those characters, and yet, the general opinion of her is... kind of unfair. Understandable, nonetheless... I'm not a fan of her either but at the same time, I don't think we should judge her harsher than male characters who have similar treatments. Male characters like that shouldn't be excused. I'm not saying Stus are NEVER pointed out or criticized, but this guy does have a point. There seems to be a much more airtight scrutiny surrounding female characters of this nature and it might be due to internalized misogyny or ''something something quantum quantum...'' Granted, I don't think Stus/Sues should be a widely accepted overused theme regardless, and that should be blamed on poor writing rather than sexism. Whether male, female, both, neither and everything in-between, characters need to be well-written, well-developed, believable and nuanced and blah blah blah. I'm not really here to talk about that. What I want to point out is double standards. And yes, this is sexism.

Take Rick and Morty for example. I'm not going to get too deep into it, but the fandom seems to praise the shit out of Rick who can easily be labelled a Stu because as we're constantly reminded, he's supposedly the ''smartest man in the universe''. Now, when you create a character who is a self-professed genius and placed on a pedestal by the writers, it can definitely come off Stu-ish. It's not that Rick unrealistically lacks flaws... no, this man is LOADED with flaws, but the fact that he's a literal badass who can get out of almost any sticky situation... well, like I said, there's more to his character than that and I'm not going to get into it, but Rick rarely, if ever, fails. Sometimes there's moments of vulnerability and the fact that he keeps trying to change but just slips back into his old ways, that makes him much more 3-dimensional than a Stu... but you know, despite his narcissism, his sarcasm, his alcoholism and mistreatment of his family and his incapability of maintaining healthy long-term relationships, he still has a limitless ability to create, a superior intelligence level even when compared to higher lifeforms on other planets, enabling him to outsmart entire government organizations and civilizations spanning galaxies, well... you can see where I'm going with this. There's no person on this planet like that who exists irl, even among the smartest of history's greatest men. Yes, it's a cartoon, it's meant to be far-fetched. Yes, it's sci-fi so we're expected to suspend our disbelief. Yes, there's a reason for it. Yes, it drives the core of the story. But even if there's times where it seems Rick will definitely fail, he never truly has an ALL IS LOST MOMENT because the writers conveniently write him out of most of his troubles, because the series has to keep going (obviously). Basically, I never feel a real sense of danger when Rick is in trouble because I know he'll get out alive (if not, there's infinite amount of Ricks and infinite amount of realities to replace him-- not to mention he can replace his family members as many times as he fucks up which became the show's laziest overused point in my opinion). Rick's not a bad character. Far from it. That's not what bothers me.

What bothers me is his daughter, Beth. Okay, no, she doesn't specifically bother me. The way the fandom sees her bothers me. Now Beth is undoubtedly cut from the same cloth. You know what they say, like father like daughter. And yet... the fandom fails to recognize her as a potentially great character, just as equally flawed and brilliant minded as Rick. She's a genius horse surgeon in a failing marriage. (I will go out on a limb and say she's more well written than Rick *ducks from flying tomatoes*.) I mean, her story is literally almost the same as her father's, her flaws are just as realistic--in fact, she's probably more realistic because she's not the ''smartest so and so of the godforsaken universe'' which is just as bad as annoyingly cringey The Chosen One trope. She's just Beth. A terribly smart woman with abandonment issues and trust issues and all other kinds of issues, but you can't blame her given her upbringing. By no means perfect or good at everything she does. Or loved (or hated) by everyone or hailed a genius by the entire flipping universe. You can't even call her a Sue. Yet some of the fandom chooses to label her a b*tch for whatever reason... even though her characterization is near identical to D*ck, er I mean Rick (e.g. she drinks just as much when she hits an all time low). She's just as awful with just as many fuck ups yet she's more sympathetic due to the way Rick raised her (or didn't raise her)... yet there's a double standard because somehow, because she's a female, she's a worse character than Rick, who's a male and apparently awesome (brownie points because he's one of the the two titular characters so you *can't* hate him, it's against the law). If Beth were Rick's son instead of his daughter, I wonder if the general opinion would be the same or not. If Rick were a woman.... he would be Rey, now would he? Don't deny it.

Then there's Ed Edd n' Eddy. As much as I love praising the hell out of this show, I also like to crap on it. There's no shame in pointing out flaws in your faves. But this isn't so much the flaw in the actual show and the actual writing, but again, I'm taking a jab at the fandom and how they perceive male characters v. female characters.

Sarah. Sarah is almost exactly like the female Eddy. She's little and bratty and loud af. She's probably the most hated character on the show (even Jimmy and Kevin are more liked than she is). I used to not like Sarah either but I never really asked myself WHY. When I compared her to Eddy, I realized that they're literally, almost the same character and I have no real reason to hate her (yeah yeah a lot of the cul-de-sac kids share eerily similar traits to the Eds and it was no accident; it makes you wonder why the kids hate the Eds so much if they ostracize them for the very same quirks they have, and it's not just the scams--it's because kids at this age are terribly insecure about themselves and tend to make fun of more vulnerable others who share their flaws to make themselves feel better. I was bullied in middle school for acne by... wait for it.... kids who had acne. GASP. Imagine that. So my point is, we often despise traits in others we despise in ourselves, not to mention we don't perceive ourselves the way others perceive us, hence, the Looking Glass Self theory. Basically, EEnE is deeper than it appears on the surface, and I've analyzed this before during those EEnE Appreciation Month things, so I won't bother repeating myself, but that's the basic idea in a nutshell.)

Ahem, before I get off on a further tangent, let me reiterate my main point. Sarah IS Eddy. No, not really, but yes, kinda really. Her voice can be irritating and grates on your nerves at times, she's bossy and controlling of her friends (I honestly love her friendship with Jimmy, and how they both defy stereotypical gender norms, and how protective she is of him, but there's times where she pushes his buttons), and though she doesn't hold Jimmy back from finding his own independence apart from her the way Eddy sometimes does to Ed and Edd who he treats them more as cronies in the first season (for instance, Sarah doesn't raise objection to Jimmy joining the Urban Rangers and finding his own identity and making other friends besides her, I mean they don't have to be glued to the hip and she damn well knows that), and yet... the way she treats Ed... well... even if Eddy stands up for Ed against Sarah and grows increasingly annoyed with the way she walks all over him... Eddy ain't much better, pumpkins. DON'T ACT LIKE HE'S BETTER THAN HER. Sure, male characters *always* get excused for this kind of behavior, but if it's a girl, she's automatically a mega beyotch with no redeeming qualities. If she's a b, he's a b, and they both have potential to redeem their flaws.  They should be treated equally.

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Eddy. He's one of my favorite characters. OPE. And there's the tea.

Most people LOVE Eddy (not everybody, and if you don't, that's fine; you don't even have to like Sarah, but I have a case). Despite the fact that he's bossy, sarcastic, rude, selfish, self-absorbed, over confident, flamboyant, vain, screams with a voice that makes your ears bleed.... well, gee, didn't I just describe Sarah? Sarah loves make-up clothes and hair just as much as Eddy loves speedos and deodorant and cheap shampoo and dressing to the nines for Jonny's Arbor Day Party. Hell, Sarah had a complete meltdown because she lost her freakin' earring! Eddy flipped the fuck out when Ed lost his porno mags. THEY'RE. THE. SAME. FUCKING. PERSON. (and it's why they butt heads but that's a topic for another day, because you know, you can't fight fire with fire... you can argue the same for Eddy and Kevin)

Yet, the fandom HATES Sarah and LOVES Eddy. Probably not cuz she's female, but aside from the Kankers, the girls (and Jimmy, poor Jimmy) seem to receive harsher judgment towards them as characters by fans, even if they have similar traits to the boys. I'm sure it's because Sarah isn't as well written or developed a character as Eddy (who's a main cast member, actually the driving force of the show, the primary lead) BUT that's not to say Sarah doesn't have her moments of vulnerability or moments of total bad-assery that makes her.... well... interesting  if given the chance. (In BPS, she beats the living shit out of the Kankers and devises a plan for her and Jimmy to escape their enslavement, one of my all-time favorite scenes in the entire movie; not to mention she beats the crap out of EVERYONE on the show and it's usually, not always, well-deserved but it's entertaining nonetheless: cat fights with Nazz, even beating up Rolf who's twice her size, etc.). The fact that everyone is afraid of this little girl??? (maybe except Kevin). I mean, this chick is fearless, and yet, she still has moments of weakness. That's 3-dimensional if you ask me. She's more than just the bratty little sister. I didn't used to like her, but after studying her more, I've come to appreciate her. There's nothing about her that makes her an inherently ''bad'' female character. She plays a role, as do they all, and she plays the role perfectly.

Last but not least: Nazz. Everyone's favorite (I'm kidding). I don't know if the fandom hates Sarah or Nazz more. I can understand the hate towards Sarah, but Nazz seems even less just. Nazz is like one of the nicest people on the show and never really does anything to warrant the hate (until the infamous flanderized Season 5-- don't judge me, I love S5 regardless)... but even then she's still nice, if a bit artificially so. I mean, she becomes a bit of a Mean Girl (they all kinda do; it must be how the clique school environment changes a person), but she still goes out of her way to be inclusive towards everyone (even if she can be spotted in the background laughing at the Eds along with the others at times, but they're ALL guilty of this... ya'll out here lovin' on Rolf or Jonny or whatever, and pretending like they're saints, but they laugh at our precious Ed boys too. Also, precious Ed boys are not complete angels either and sometimes they need a good ass whooping or two. I mean, they're just kids. Kids are assholes). She's not a bad person though; she roots for all the contestants during the Spelling Bee. She personally appoints Ed to be the mascot of the football team. I can go on and on. She's just nice. Maybe that's why fans hate her. Because nice is boring. Nice is... personality-less. I don't think Nazz has as much eccentricity as the other characters, obviously, but she, too, has her moments (she yodels, for starters). She's not entirely lacking in personality. Sure, she may have as much personality as a board of wood (actually, I take that back, Plank has MORE personality than her XD) buuuut.... Idk, I like Nazz. I didn't at first either. But even if it irks me a bit that she's reduced down to the unattainable love interest and not much else, she, too, isn't an inherently ''bad'' female character. She has the least development of all the cast members, but she fills her role effectively. Without her, the show would feel like it's missing something. Even if she doesn't appear as often.

What bothers me the most is that she plays the same part as Kevin, only female. Kevin's the quintessential jock/bully popular leader of the kids, the King of the Cul-de-sac if you will (self-appointed or otherwise, just don't tell Eddy I told you). Nazz is like his Homecoming Queen, even if they're not an official couple (they spend the whole series as a ''will they or won't they Ross and Rachel'') and though not the leader of the kids collectively, she does sometimes lead the girls (or really, Sarah and Jimmy), while Kevin leads the boys (Jonny and Rolf, excluding the Eds). AND YET Kevin, though sometimes hated by fans, isn't nearly *as* hated as Nazz. Yet, he has as much personality as her (sorry, I love you, Kev). I mean, THEY'RE. ALMOST. THE. SAME. CHARACTER. Good looking, sporty, popular... He's also the least developed character of the male cast. Plank has more development than him and that's kinda sad... y'know... getting beat by a board of wood. (But Plank comes alive through Jonny, so basically Jonny is split into two separate characters; Plank reveals aspects of Jonny that he won't reveal to us, and vice versa. I can talk about Jonny all day, but let's not, because this is about Nazz.) I mean, again, Nazz and Kevin both have their moments of vulnerability and it's not like they're NEVER interesting; I beg to differ. Kevin, anyway, has two great episodes that revolve directly around his insecurities and anxieties and deep-seated fears, some deep shit I wish we got to see with Nazz. But instead we got BPS and it was hands-down the best character development we ever saw from her in the entire show's run. It's sad it had to be the end, because if they gave us more BPS Nazz throughout the series, she would have been a well rounded 3-d character.

Nazz is angry AF in BPS and I live for angry Nazz. We can kind of feel for her here because Kevin is such a dunce. She's finally reciprocating his feelings and he decides to turn the other way.... for his goddamn inanimate bike. It's something Jonny would do, but Kev always loved that bike... I guess more than Nazz, and it's one of the greatest love triangles ever. Phantom of the Opera don't interact. Ahem. My point is, Nazz finally displays more personality here-- like actual fucking emotion beyond just being nice and pretty (sure, we've seen her get angry sometimes, or freaked out other times, but never like this). Buuuuuut the fandom sees otherwise. They hated Nazz even MORE after this, despite that.... the male characters in BPS, like Rolf who punches through a tree and Edd and Eddy who go at it all piss and vinegar in an actual fist fight, are angry fucking men, and they're allowed to be angry and not Nazz because...? They have more testosterone and she doesn't? Because penises are more justified than vaginas? Oops, no, sorry, women can only be angry when they're on their periods, my bad. I mean, everybody's out in this freezing cold swamp, having a break down, at their wit's end, reaching their ''all is lost'' moment... yet, Rolf and the Eds are allowed to vent their frustrations on each other or on the surrounding environment. But not Nazz. No, Nazz is being a b*tch because.... Kevin's paying more attention to a non-living machine than to her. And he sat flat on his skinny ass and didn't help her when she needed him the most. And she didn't have to tag along with him but she did. She didn't have to put up with his cold aloofness but she did. And even if she was trying to catch his attention and flirt with him at inappropriate times she wasn't entirely useless. It was HER idea to find Eddy's brother. If she hadn't suggested it, he'd still be riding around in circles chasing his shadow. Yeah, okay, she's a total b*tch.

God forbid women have emotions. God forbid women cry or get frustrated. Then they're b*tches. But if they're pretty and nice and perfect and popular, they're Sues. Yet, male characters with the same traits.... get lighter sentences. No one even bats an eye. Boys will be boys am I right?

I can go on but yeah, don't say double standards are total BS. In this essay I will

#personal shit #eene #ed edd n eddy #rick and morty #feminism #mary sue #gary stu #nazz #sarah

[rametarin]

It’s not a fun position to be in.

I’d like to clarify, again. I’m not an ethnonationalist, ethnoseparatist, white supremacist, or any of those things. I actually quite dislike them. That’s WHY it makes me mad to see overpolicing of white people or whiteness as inherently oppressive and bad, and anybody else as inherently oppressed and good.

They enshrine and put it into words and ideology that white people and other people exist and should exist on two different levels of society, and their preferred solution is to disestablish one as not existing because races and race-culture doesn’t exist, while empowering everybody else, and pretending that’s not hypocrisy. And since they later updated what they define as racism, technically, it no longer is.

You have to understand. When I was coming up in the late 80s/early 90s, the discourse on race was simple: For anyone to consider themselves by their race first, was to be a racist. The highest tier racists were Nazis, the next step beneath them were KKKlansmen, and then loosely affiliated neo-nazis beneath them, then ‘vaguely white supremacist and hostile towards non-English speakers, brown people and Asians’ people that weren’t loud, screaming hate mongerers came next. But, for a person to think of themselves separate or of themselves or their families as a member of an extant community defined by their race and background, was to be a racist. And that was socially taboo/faux pas.

At least, for white people. Of which in the US, they are/were the majority (even today) and the conversation was deliberately just broadbrush to assume it applied to white people by default.

It did not, however, apply to “oppressed minorities,” conveniently. So, if you were black, or your community/heritage didn’t speak English and wasn’t a “white country” (Latin American, basically) you could be as insular and think about the welfare and integrity of your own little microcosm and diasporic ethnostate that you wanted. One need only look at media and entertainment in the 90s geared towards keeping that spirit of separatism in the American black community to see that double standard. But it was justified and defended by, “We need this, we are under threat of racists, klansmen and hostile Southern confederate-sympathetic gentlemen every day of our lives.

And as vaguely progressive people in the 80s and 90s, yeah, we conceded that roaming bands of horrible southern monster-men were probably a thing black, Hispanic, Indigenous North American and Asian people worried about a lot and had to deal with constantly. Since the news made damned sure to publish every single instance of a hate crime against a minority, and later public school would hold special sessions to talk about such a horrible thing.

Always white-on-somebody-else, always seguing into conversations about how prevalent white supremacists and white supremacism, the actual confederate flag and [your choice of specific and purpose made white supremacist club/militia symbol here] used to be, and in many ways, still was.

At the time, common public discourse was not, “the United States is memetically a white supremacist oppressive shithole based on the very culture and roots, it’s just there are a lot of suppressive, hateful, bigoted people, most of them are in the majority demographic, and most of them are male.” The US was not considered, “white supremacist/racist” by default.

And on paper, taking the moral high ground on racism meant implicitly that you hated racial discrimination, in theory, in all forms. That included favoring people for their real or perceived racial background as well as disfavoring. So preferential treatment to hiring practices were as taboo as preferential treatment for hate crimes.

In practice, many of the same Woke Folks that today said one thing but applied it only to reprimend white people, do so today while saying, proudly, “you can’t discriminate or be racist against white people.” But at the time, they feigned, “just hating racists” to ignore any such racism, bigotry or intolerance from any other group towards whites. They might, however, recognize it if, say, black people did a hate crime towards Asians, but they did so begrudgingly. They HATED having to proactively come out and police that as racism and declare it as such, because they wanted the discourse to evolve into, “it’s ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY racism when it’s white-on-others, because ONLY whites can be racist.” But that wouldn’t be for another 25+ years.

Even that stupid, safe, classic, “haha stupid insecure white man; there’s no such thing as Reverse Racism!” line? That’s a save.

Privilege Theory existed back then, you know. it was published in the late 80s, and the radicals had been using it unofficially for decades before then. But it was a radical school and in deep, and only peeked its head out to try and make cultural headway the way radicals try to make anything radical the mainstream. It just so happened that academia at the time and society at large was not willing to accept that permutation to the racism discourse or dialog. “All white people are racist and racism is an intrinsic quality of white people, nobody else can be” was tested, like a spank on the ass.

And it almost blew the illusion. So, they ran damage control and hid for a while, putting out feelers only for those so deep down the rabbithole or so gullible they’d accept that. And they gaslight anybody that experienced dealing with a radical asshole that said shit like that by saying, “oh that’s just Patty. She’s a meaningless extremist and has no power.” Or, “Haha are you really going to take that anecdote as signs progressive people are all like that bro? omg come on. XD.” Or, “You must have misunderstood her. I know how progressivism and anti-racism can seem when you’ve been raised your whole life by society and the media to think white people are by default superior, so any taste of equality feels like you’re being singled out and discriminated against. :^)”

But the fact is, “haha there’s no such thing as ‘reverse racism’“ had two endings. If you mentioned you experienced someone saying, ‘only whites could be racist and nobody else can be,’ you’d hear either:

1.) “lol no. They were just confused. Racism is the discrimination of anybody on the basis of race! So calm down, the established definition applies to all. :^)”

2.) “there’s no such thing as reverse racism, because racism is the phenomenon of the white supremacist power structure lording and oppressing People of Color. You cannot be racist to white people if you are black, Indigenous or Hispanic, because you have no privilege and no centuries worth of oppression. Cry more.”

Way back in the day we’d SEE these glaring contradictions. And in truth? Most of us hated racism, so we stomached the glaring, disjointed bullshit. But, we ALSO grabbed up that anti-racism stick and BEAT the privilege theorist types subversivelyu hijacking the culture over the head with that anti-racism, too. You wanna claim you hate something because it’s, “racist,” AKA, involves race in the cricteria of something at all? FINE. You’re also going to hate affirmative action and when people come down on the side of not-white people specifically because they’re not-white. You will ELIMINATE race from consideration in any aspect of secular modern civic society and private enterprise and protect everybody equally on the basis of being a person. And any instance that is not the case we’ll come down on you with all the heavy handed spite we see and experience of you fuckers coming down on us, showing us off on soap boxes and sacrificing us on the altars of public socialization to shame and belittle us for the bigotry of generations passed.

You want to hit me with that stigma and smear me as some sort of white supremacist because I object to a thing, dismissing my objection and chalking it up to white supremacism? Then by god I’m going to point out the hypocrisy in the supposed “progressive far left” and their tolerance of anti-semites like Farrakhan, their tolerance towards the polygamy, misogyny and religious fundamentalist patriarchy in Islam, and how non-white communities act and think the same way to protect their own respective ‘brands,’ and the only people you seem to go after for these crimes are the white ones.

Which was fair. After all, we all just, “hate racism :^)”, right? So if you’re going to be an aggrandizing asshole and make a big to-do about castigating a lowbrow joke as a “teachable moment” that involves making every progressive woman hypersensitive and reject men based on how taboo something is to say, then that lack of forgiveness and hypersensitivity and the results of that intolerance will also apply to YOU, god damnit.

But the supposed “progressive” people would not stop. Anti-”racism” was their new toy, aka, their stick to choose their targets and seem absolutely morally right for doing it, and they were going to play that social tool down to the hilt. They did not like being beaten at their own game by being flagged and forced to acknowledge glaring instances of hate crimes in the news when groups of roaming black men found and randomly beat up gentile whites and Jews. They did not like being forced to acknowledge those. So they’d object and scowl at the people bringing them up, like, “Why are we discussing the hate crimes of black men specifically?! You have a problem with black men!?”

Because remember, they were playing the defacto ‘whites are considered default Americans’ to the hilt when it suited them, and using it against people in the discourse suited them. You could talk about generic hate crimes that appear on the newspaper, because those were just regular hate crimes. Their mentality was, if you brought up hate crimes of Asians or black people, then clearly you were just a white man motivated by spite and insecurity to even be tabulating those in the first place, and that meant your opinion and point should be disregarded. You horrible anti-black/Asian racist.

So, please bear in mind, my case is not that white people are in any way better than anybody else. I don’t think that. But by god, in an era when the supposedly progressive, far-leftist, “woke” people are running around saying Europe and North America and Australia are by default white supremacist “cultures” that need “dismantling and replacement,” and simultaneously declaring, “white people do not exist,” and “there are no ‘white countries,’ just cultures and nations without race’ while ABSOLUTELY enshrining that EVERY country in Africa, even ones that are majority Semitic or Arab, are in fact, “black countries.” Or Asian countries being Asian. Or North America as still belonging to the native inhabitants and unjustly stolen land.

I absolutely abhor the doubletalk, I absolutely abhor the mentality that ONLY white people doing things is a problem. I hate that something ISN’T a problem when another group does it, but it’s JUST an issue when white people do it.

I want consistency. If people are going to enshrine and respect the existence, difference and integrity of a black culture in the USA, that is, a culture that exists purely because the people in it have black African features and characteristics and aren’t too “light skinned” to be part of it, and in an era supposedly trying to “get over” race and racial identity, tolerate that from everybody BUT white people, tolerate the idea of a, “chocolate New Orleans” but openly say New Hampshire or Maine being so majority white is an actual problem, then yeah, I’m going to expect one of two things:

1.) The woke/progressives actively discourage black Americans from considering themselves a separate or distinct culture from mainstream America. They stop secluding and culturally isolating themselves in their own hearts and minds and just be fellow countrymen.

OR

2.) They acknowledge, enshrine and respect the fact whites do have their own specifically white cultures of which other races cannot be part of, they’re a distinct people that have their own communities and need their own communities to remain white.

They will do neither and would prefer if white people just disappear. The same sort of disappearance that they see as so disgusting and horrible if it were to happen to literally any other group of people on planet Earth.

When a Chinese immigrant arrives to the US, takes a wife (we’ll just assume white in this instance) and miscegenates, people later chalk this up to, “being colonized in a white supremacist pressure cooker culture.” And mourn how his kids and grandkids, “wash away his culture and background with every generation.” Instead of growing the Chiense-American community. They talk about him like he was enslaved and colonized and his culture eliminated from the American fabric by some schmoozing, destructive white plague cutting it down.

They talk about white Americans like we’re just originless, rootless vermin, and no such distinctness or integrity is to be respected. If we treated other groups in the US the way we treat white people that talk about their background, distinct cultures and etc., we’d be denying them any identity but mainstream American identity. If we treated black Americans that way, we’d be calling them black supremacists every time they wanted to have any sort of civic or educational or societal or community meeting to talk about blackness and the struggles of being black.

It’s just.... absolutely disgusting and frustrating, dealing with the hypocrites, the double standards, and the people maliciously using social justice values to sell policies and top-down application of cultural values the way used car salesmen try and sell people lemons. I dislike them.

I dislike that if a white person talked about their background or group the way a black person in the US does, they’d be called out for their insularity and eurocentrism in a heartbeat, shut down, deplatformed, become an effigy of conversation about, “the growing tide of white supremacism in America.” When all they’d do is take someone like DL Hugely or Cedric the Entertainer or Bernie Mac, and make it, ‘white ethnic’.

Imagine having your racism and in-groupcentrism excused because, “THAT’S PART OF YOUR CULTURE,” and immune to criticism or critical thought. But then, that’s exactly the mentality foisted on us by dialectic materialists and Marxists.

My preferred solution to all of this isn’t to respect white community or white sovereignty or white identitarianism. My preferred solution is the complete dissolution of race as a culture or background in the New World whatsoever. The Old World, you have indigenous cultures and communities across Europe, Africa and Asia that should NOT be expected to “mix” themselves up and out to where the indigenous featues and characteristics are marginalized or ‘bred out.’ That’s where they MAKE those people. But the New World is 100% different. Space should be 100% different.

But I’m also not going to accept, “well only half of us should kill ourselves.off :^)” either. While other communities across the Western World insist on having their communities and insular, demographically concentrated, demographic-culturally-conscious people respected and accommodated, I’m going to expect parity. And not an equality that uses privilege theory ow considers population size being disproportionate as, “they need it more than you.” No. You want to respect peoples, “cultures,” and consider black a culture in the US, then by GOD you will also respect and acknowledge those of European extraction as their own culture in the US. It’s all or nothing, you don’t get to single out one group as not existing or irrelevant and say, “race doesn’t exist” one minute, and then go on about how blackess, cultural and genetic, are “very real things that affect people very much and very really.”

These people would throw public money and social services at immigrant communities, hoping they demographically grow, maintain integrity and spread their numbers- preferably to red states, where they can start turning them purple, or blue. But they’d balk and consider it racist colonization if a white community moved to Niger or Chad and did the same for their own community interests. They’d call that racial supremacism and soft apartheid.

And I absolutely hate all of this.

[baddieromanova]

I had never considered it before but you made an excellent point about the double standards when it comes to Alice dating FP and FP dating Alice and just how the fandom reacts to her actions vs the men. It screams sexism and even though I’m not fond of Alice, you made me see the light.

I don’t care that you’re not fond of Alice, you’re entitled to your own opinion, but I’m glad I’ve made somebody aware of the blatant double standards, even if it’s one person at the moment. The sexism/misogyny throughout the fandom is rife, with every female character and actress, but it’s more centred on clothing and policing sexuality, the basics really. However, with Alice, and even Madchen at times, it’s just so much more present and extreme. When it comes to the overall complaints and issues the fandom has with Alice and the general anti Alice rhetoric, FP and Hal have been guilty of the same situations and behaviours, but there’s a completely different reaction, if any at all and I’ll happily break it down:

Alice having Polly sent away and the attempt to have her baby adopted was “evil” on Alice’s part, but despite it being heavily implied that it’s clearly a Cooper family past time seeing as Hal did the same to Alice, thus making Hal just as guilty by default and heavily involved, him doing the same was seen as doing what was best for his family and being concerned for his daughter. Yet only one of them apologised and admit their mistake.

Alice keeping the existence and paternity of Charles a secret from Betty and Polly was seen as selfish and considered to be something that “destroyed” the family, despite the reasons her burying it being completely understandable and even breaking her, furthermore, her teen pregnancy had absolutely no impact on the family or her kids. Hal however, keeping his ancestry a secret and still keeping it a secret even when it resulted in his daughter dating her cousin, something that did actually destroy the family, is completely ignored, and Hal has never been held accountable for that to this day. Imagine your father knowing damn well you’re romantically involved with your cousin and he keeps quiet about it even when you fall pregnant by him, that is absolutely disgusting, but then again, this fandom is full of the nastiest white people to ever roam the planet so I guess that’s why it’s not a big deal to them, but that’s another conversation for another day.

Alice crying over her family breaking down was seen as weak, pathetic, embarrassing and character degrading but Hal supposedly “crying” over a home video of Polly while she was away makes him an absolute caring sweetheart of a father.

Alice is slandered for sleeping with FP in 2x17 whilst separated from Hal, and it’s seen as embarrassing and again character degrading but Hal cheating on Alice with his cousin is either ignored or somehow twisted into not actually happening because we never saw them actually engage in anything intimate on screen

Alice’s involvement in investigating the farm and the lengths she had to go through to keep her cover albeit she went the wrong way with some of her methods, (I won’t dispute that, even though informants have to go to extreme lengths and it isn’t really their choice at all, their superiors do not care about who they hurt along the way, they just wanna close their cases. I know people who have almost let loved ones get in serious trouble and had to sit back and do nothing because coming forward would’ve blown their cover, but also half of that crap only happened because of Riverdale’s writing, am I really gonna sit here and complain about that? No, I’m not a clown, that would be a waste of time, you don’t see me complaining about Sweet Pea or Tom’s absence while their loved ones were getting sliced up by Edgar, why? Because this show doesn’t care about anybody outside the core four unless they’re involved in a core four members storyline. Also those of you who say you could understand or excuse her actions if she was actually brainwashed, she was, pre 3x12 or possibly 3x10, Roberto and Mädchen have said it, go find the interviews) but at the end of the day doing it to help and protect ALL her kids is still complained about to this day and used to slander her and call her abusive (Something the fandom needs to stop throwing around because it’s ignorant and insensitive. There’s a difference between a character acting abusive and a character doing something you’re not fond of. Penelope and Hiram are abusive, they literally bully their children, berate them and constantly assert dominance over them and use it to make them bend to their whim, menawhile Alice has just made shitty mistakes) Meanwhile, Hal, whilst sitting in a prison cell, for murdering Betty’s classmates, neighbours, trying to murder her three times and psychologically abusing her for months is given the father of the year title for saying everything Alice did was “bad”. The bar is where you ask? On the motherfucking floor. I know these are the same people who gush in their panties over men who “babysit” THEIR children

Alice being romantically involved with her daughters boyfriends father is selfish and inconsiderate as it will affect her daughters relationship, despite being in love with him for a quarter century and still at one point attempting to make things work with a man she was not in love with for the sake of her family but FP, being romantically involved with his son’s girlfriend’s mother, literally the same situation, has absolutely no response whatsoever, and never has.

There are probably other examples I’m missing but you get the point. I don’t care if people aren’t fond of Alice or Falice or whatever, and everyone’s entitled to their own opinions, but don’t sit here and be blatantly disingenuous in your reasons when we can see right through that shit like glass. You hate Alice for being romantically involved with her daughters boyfriends father? Fair enough, but make sure FP’s name is in your mouth too, that also goes to the Varchie stans who have pointed this out constantly even though it doesn’t concern them, they better keep that “imagine doing that to your child” energy if by some miracle we get the Hermary ship sailing (there’s still time, Molly all but said we’d learn Mary is a lesbian, like we didn’t already know and Marisol teased a love interest for Hermione) since the parents of their ship dating seems to be such a huge deal to them. And you hate Alice for “abusing” Betty? Okay, but make sure you hate Hal just as much if not more instead of wishing for him to come back from the dead and going out of your way to twist everything he does into a loving act of kindness when it clearly isn’t. I mean, at the end of the day, the only difference between the three of them is an extra X chromosome, just saying.

#alice cooper #alice smith #falice #hal cooper #fp jones #anonymous #i know you sent this a while ago i’ve just been busy

[shannaro-kamo]

O—->>Naruto Tag Game <<—-O

thank you for the tag, @flirtsuke​ ! <3 I tag @ravenaveira, @team7fangirl, @sasu-thirst, @gaara-nara, @roraewrites, @its-naruto-universe, @starvingbloom, @omgsakuraqueen, and @mikayuuxzeki :)

F A V O R I T E

Female Character: Sakura

Male Character: Sasuke

Team: 7

Sensei: Kakashi

Hokage: Tsunade

Kage: Gaara

Village: Leaf or Sand

Akatsuki Member: Itachi

Jutsu: Byakugou seal

Episode/Chapter: the Sakura chapters in FOD, hands down

Fight Scene: Sasori fight and Haku & Zabuza, I guess? there are so many

Fanfiction: I don’t read much fanfic

Story Arc: chuunin exams

Filler: Kakashi’s mask

What is your…

OTP (explain why): SasuSaku, because her love for him is so genuine and selfless; she spent like all of her time after the curse mark just being worried sick about him. Sakura is really the only girl Sasuke has shown a soft spot for, and his regard for her feelings despite his volatile state speaks volumes to me.

NoTP (without being a dick, explain why): SNS and SK, because SNS is not about romance, and Karin said she was “done” with Sasuke--Sakura never truly did so. Karin also never tried to save Sasuke, and that alone makes me favor SS.

Crackship/s: KakaSaku lol

BroTP: SNS and NaruShika and NaruGaa

OT3: NaruSasuSaku. My blog is called team 7 orgy lol

Crossover ship: ummm never thought about it lol, the only real crossover I’ve considered is May from Pokemon + Sakura BrOTP because they’re my top tier waifus. I’ve also always liked the idea of a Pokemon-ninja verse because I’m not original!

M I S C E L L A N E O U S

Do you have any headcanons? - Sasuke was a soppy mess when Sarada was born lol

Are you happy with the ending? Would you have done things differently? - I am very happy with the endgame pairings, but I definitely would have developed them more. I would’ve done Kaguya / Madara differently, and I would’ve had some sort of mutual official apology between Konoha and the Uchiha take place after the war.

How do you feel about the Next Generation? - I love Sarada, but I feel that Boruto is too much like Naruto and Konohamaru rolled into one. We already know how Naruto responded to Konohamaru not getting enough attention. I’m not in the camp that says Naruto is a bad father; I feel like saying he’s a bad father is totally unfair.

Say something about your favorite character. Good and bad. - Sakura earned her damn stripes. Most of the stuff people criticize her for was stuff that happened when she was a child, and I ain’t about judging children because I’m not stupid lol. I suppose I would’ve liked to see her apologize to Naruto for the fake confession; we do see her thinking of how sorry she is, which is good, but a verbal one would have been good to see. I also think she should apologize to Sasuke for trying to kill him, but obviously he needs to do the same on a completely different level.

What would a child between your OTP look like? How would they behave as parents? - Sarada is gorgeous. I don’t think it’d be possible for SS to have kids with pink hair and green eyes, unfortunately. There are some inconsistencies with the timeline of Gaiden / Sasuke coming back to the village but not seeing Sarada while seeing Sakura, but I’m not gonna get into that. Kishi done goofed.

Say something genuinely nice about your NoTP. - SNS is beautiful regardless of whether you see it as platonic or romantic. SK is also a lovely bond.

Say something negative about your OTP. - Sasuke needed to be more remorseful to Sakura. More development from Sasuke’s side in general would have been great, I won’t deny that.

Is there anyway you could be convinced to ship your NoTP? What would make you change your mind about the pairing? - Nothing could really make me get on board with SK, lol. In terms of SNS, idk, maybe I’d ship it if that fandom would stop shitting on Sakura and her feelings all the damn time.

What makes you mad about the series? - pretty much just the fandom lol

If you could see anything happen in the series, what would it be? - SASUSAKU TRAVELS AND RELATIONSHIP CONCEPTION AND MARRIAGE AND SARADA’S BIRTH MOTHERFUCKER. Also I’d love to see Kishi illustrate Sakura running a clinic.

What would you say to Kishimoto if given the chance? - Kishi, please explain the timeline inconsistencies in Gaiden. Was Sarada having a flashback to Sasuke and Sakura holding her hands in Gaiden? Did Sasuke communicate with Sakura via hawk in Gaiden? Did Sasuke distance himself from his family because he was afraid of being a dangerous/controversial presence around Sakura and Sarada? Is Sasuke home much more after Gaiden, as indicated by the Boruto movie? 

In your opinion…

Most attractive male? - Sasuke

Most attractive female? - Sakura, Hinata, Tsunade

Most overestimated? - hmmmmm, maybe like......Hinata by her own fandom lol

Not appreciated enough? - S A K U R A

What is the greatest thing about Naruto? - The diversity of the cast and the characters loving each other 

The worst? - Naruto getting too much focus, Sakura getting a little shafted in terms of screentime, Hinata’s entire character being centered around Naruto, girls in general getting shafted, also Hidan, Kakuzu, and Deidara, I hate them for taking up screentime because they have no legit backstories or development lol

The saddest moment? - Sasuke finding out about Itachi

The most defining? - Defining is a broad term, maybe I would say 685 when Sasuke catches Sakura, it just really showed what he was really feeling about her deep down

Rant about anything…

GO! - This fandom has truly infuriated me more than pretty much anything ever has, lol. I am so fucking sick of the Sakura hate, the misogyny, the jealousy, the hypocrisy, all of it. It’s ridiculous, it’s petty, it’s bandwagon hate, and that’s the absolute worst kind of hate. This fandom claims to be so feminist, but I’ve seen fujoshis time and time again belittle any girl who gets in the way of their OTP. The double standard setting is ridiculous. People need to stop fucking saying “you can’t be a Sakura or Sasuke fan if you ship SS” like seriously shut the fuck up. We all have different opinions about what’s right for the characters. Also, it should tell you something that SS shippers’ views align with Kishi’s. I really haven’t seen the SS fandom say “you can’t be a Sakura or Sasuke fan if you don’t ship SS.” Hopefully I haven’t seen it because it never happens. Just some food for thought. My anger with this fandom really started back in summer 2015 when Gaiden was being released. I made ONE post about people needing to respect Kishi, and people told me I needed to “get my sanctimonious opinions out of the SNS tag.” After that I really lost my shit with this fandom lmao. Many people, including myself, have owned up to various things, but there is still way too much toxicity and bullshit that needs to just stop. Luckily things are more calm than they used to be, but there is still improvement to be made. Sorry for the long rant lol but yeah I’ve been wanting to say all this at some point anyway so might as well bury it in a long-ass post. *stomps away to a beanbag chair*