#c!techno critical

[dr3amofagame]

ctechno was not the nice dude everyone wants him to be

oooh interesting take lmao. im gonna insert a courtesy "c!techno is generally a good person and does good" disclaimer bc like, c!techno is generally a good person that does good and cares about people and gets ridiculous amounts of hates for stupid things all the damn time, for the record, but also ... i cant say i dont get what you mean in part?

i think there's a phenomenon with c!techno sometimes where people can make him either too much of a paragon or strip him of too much agency in a way that's weird to me. i mean like, "he's canonically 3 years old" jokes aside, this guy isn't someone whos just doomed to be taken advantage of everyone unless they "respect his boundaries 🥺🙏" and can't assert himself at all and whatever, yknow? like, he can AND DOES assert himself when he thinks it's necessary. he can AND DOES act like an asshole sometimes!

like c!techno is a full, well-rounded character. he gets too angry sometimes and does shit he regrets. he has to make efforts to change. he has feelings, he gets hurt, he lashes out. he's too dismissive sometimes because he copes with shit through humor. he isn't perfect, and that's ... a good thing? it's a good thing that he's a full well rounded interesting character with flaws. but at the same time, pointing out said flaws and treating them as flaws isn't damnation!

like, for example, right, it's perfectly understandable for him to feel used and betrayed by c!tommy. was he also kinda mean to c!tommy in the aftermath in a way that can be pointed out? i mean. yeah of course! and like, of course he was grieving and hurt and in a lot of emotional pain when c!ranboo died and did that probably play into his attitude towards c!dream post-prison break? absolutely! was stripping a guy that is literally being chased down by his literal torturers and a server of people who want to kill him of his armor and telling him he can keep a weapon For A Favor and then going "awwh we didnt get him to use his necromancy powers :/" absolutely still kind of a generally asshole-y thing to do? i mean, YEAH ???? like, if they werent doing that bc of some kind of plan, that was still kind of a jerk thing to do? in a way that's very understandable, because c!techno is a character that becomes more of a jerk when he's stressed and in emotional turmoil. and this isnt about damning him or condemning him ... but i don't see the point of erasing said moments either.

shrug anyway i think c!techno overall was a pretty damn nice dude and a good guy and im kind of trusting that u dont mean this in the same way as certain c!techno takes ive seen back in the day that felt like crucifying him every time he made a joke that broke the fourth wall aSKFJLasf. c!techno should've been meaner, actually, for the record. and it's so awesome that he put c!sam in a prison and cask of amontillado'd that guy, GOD BLESS

#my asks !! #dsmp hot takes #uhhh idk should i tag c!techno critical ? #ill do it but i dont think im being critical AJKLSFJASL he's a good guy he's also like. a guy and not a perfect paragon #disk horse #c!techno critical

[tjodity]

My first nonfiction thing on ao3! An analysis of Technoblade during Tubbo's execution!

#howdywrites #c!techno critical

[sleepypuffpastry]

c!techno immediately pinning the blame of exile onto c!tommy and offering up c!tommy to c!dream for a favor

vs

c!wilbur literally having an instant fever dream about murdering the shit out of c!dream for what he did to c!tommy in exile

#I DID IT #C!BEDROCK BROS FLOPPED C!CRIMBOYYOS SLAY #c!techno critical #pinkpuff.txt

[tobi-smp]

The thing is, Techno does lose.

He lost the trust of the people who looked up to him in Pogtopia when he killed his own allies and escalated Wilbur's destruction. He lost his friendship with Tommy when he destroyed L'Manberg a second time. He lost three months of his time because he walked into an obvious trap. He lost Ranboo because he chose to rescue Dream. He technically lost his life, although that doesn't count much since it didn't stick. But these losses never stick long enough for him to learn from them, and when they do stick, someone else inevitably shoulders the blame instead.

The problem with Techno is not that he doesn't have short-term losses. The problem is that he doesn't care, because he doesn't need to care.

Context: [Link]

right ! that's exactly what I said ^^ though I do think there Is a point to be made about his actual losses here because like.

he Loses, but never in the way that he should. even taking his lack of reaction into account. 

his reputation and physical skill means that he’s never Actually the underdog, but technoblade’s roleplay consists of presenting himself as if he were, even when it isn’t supported by the text.

which means every single one of his conflicts can be broken down into categories.

1: manufactured conflict where either nobody’s at fault or he’s actually in the wrong, but he’s presented as being completely victimized.

that’s pogtopia being completely honest about not wanting to destroy l’manberg or the government from the start, with it being clear On The Day Of The 16th that techno and wilbur were literally the only characters that wanted to destroy it and everybody else was in it for restoring l’manberg. which we know because they all said it directly in front of him while he was there before he took them to the vault.

so when he feels “betrayed” here, its under the context of him being fully aware of what he was getting himself into the entire time, being a part of a team that he knew didn’t want what he wanted, and staying with them willingly Knowing that. and then when they did what they said they wanted to do from square one he turned around and accused them of lying, and forced that narrative so hard that either everyone else has been gaslit into believing him or Technoblade The Content Creator has strongarmed the other content creators into retconning it, because it’s the only way to actually address that plot point and get a real reaction out of him.

and talking about his falling out with tommy would be an essay in and of itself. I know that because I’m written that essay [Link 1, Link 2]

2: characters that are much weaker than him stacking the deck so that they have a chance at beating him, and him “miraculously” winning.

this is one of the only instances where techno will allow the plot to manipulate the Potential outcome of a fight, but only insofar as he wants a challenge that’ll be impressive when he overcomes it. 

there’s nothing inherently wrong with this, in isolation it’s exciting content that fun to watch. but the important thing here is that it is Always the weaker party that is nevertheless being framed as the overdog from techno’s narrative. l’manberg is presented as a monolithic Government despite the fact that he can easily 1v5 the entirety of that government at a disadvantage.

quackity was framed as mindlessly power hungry from techno’s perspective, when techno had been stripped of his armor and armed with an iron pick. that moment was Exciting, but it also cemented the fandom’s view of quackity as an uncomplicated villain in a way that’s squashed everything that came before and after. it’s taken nearly two years for him to buck that stigma and to an extent he Still Hasn’t.

technoblade is the overdog in terms of skill and resources and Power, but those weaker than him are positioned as the overdog by the illusion of stripping him down and framing them as being a part of a system that doesn’t actually Have systemic power. 

we have never seen technoblade fight dream because that would risk exposing the fact that dream always represented the power structure [Link], and nothing highlighted this more than having techno partnering with the other most powerful person on the server to stomp the entirety of l’manberg and then some on doomsday.

technoblade’s framing wants us to enjoy watching him stop his opponent into dust because He Is The Underdog winning against all odds, but that is simply not the reality of the situation. he is never not in control because he won’t actually fight the people at a similar skill level to him.

the Closest that he ever came was the prison arc, where he was completely stripped down and trapped by the nature of the plot. unarmed, unarmored, and facing someone who hates him in a position where he truly did not have the power.

and he won.

he was teleported away before he could be killed, and the only baring that this had on him as a person was that it gave dream the opportunity to ask to help break him out. something that could’ve been accomplished a multitude of other ways.

he was completely stripped of his power through a plot convenience And Still Won Because Of Plot Convenience.

3: pure revenge fantasy fuel.

this one has crossover with the other two, but it’s also distinct from them. this is a conflict that only exists to set up the revenge fantasy of watching techno crush someone whose wrong him. this is, again, something that would be Fine if it played by the rules.

there’s already the issue of techno almost Always being the overdog (meaning watching him kick around people that are weaker than him isn’t as satisfying or Fun if you’re not only aware of this fact but invested in the other characters), but there’s also the issue of how it intersects with the themes of the series.

this is something that I’ve gone into detail about here [Link], so I’m not going to write an essay about it now. but the short of it is that the dream smp as whole is trying to tell the narrative that revenge Does Not Make You Happier. that lashing out at other people out of anger only makes your life worse.

the butcher army had to learn it, quackity had to learn it, tommy had to learn it, fundy had to learn it, jack and niki are in the process of learning it. but when technoblade is involved any form of revenge comes consequence and thought free.

this is where your point Well And Truly Matters. because technoblade doesn’t actually have to Fail at getting revenge for him to not break the themes of the narrative, he just has to be unhappy afterwards.

getting revenge on l’manberg and on tommy despite knowing that that means cutting tommy out of his life Should Be A Painful Decision That Makes Him Unhappier And Lonelier. he should Mourn the loss of connections with other people, and people should be Allowed To Be Angry At Him when he makes decisions that hurt them.

the followup to doomsday shouldn’t be him living his cottagecore best life with his new teenage sidekick and then starting a club. he has to, you know, Feel Something About The Choices He Made.

and this is something that negatively impacts the characters around him. because tubbo Already learned the lesson that lashing out at people only makes him unhappier. except now he hasn’t. now he condemned a man to starve to death three times in a row, ultimately leading to him being psychologically tortured, and that’s just like Cool.

part of that was down to cc!tubbo’s roleplay choices, but there was no way for techno to play out murdering a man without remorse and framing it like a Cool Action Revenge Fantasy without it juxtaposing horribly with tubbo framing revenge against sam as a Tragedy.

it’s Exactly this problem that made the tone during doomsday as fucked up as it was. because from any perspective Except techno’s it was a tragedy. even Phil had a confrontation with ghostbur that made that clear. and the discourse that followed, that’s Still Following it years later, was horrific because some fans had a completely different experiences from others to the point that it was impossible to have a conversation about it on the same footing.

which was directly due to the tonal dissonance between technoblade trying to have a fun uncomplicated revenge fantasy and the reality of the situation from an in-universe perspective.

#c!techno critical #cc!techno critical #long post #discourse

[sunlitmcgee]

hey guys remember that phase this fandom went through post outpost arc where after c!Tommy said the “you have thick skin” line, everyone started to depict him as an emotionally-deaf idiot jerk who’s completely numb to the emotions of others around him and who was cold and callous towards c!Tubbo after the red festival?

Yeah

Can we agree to never do that shit again?

#dream smp #c!tommy #fandom critical #don't you dare mischaracterize my boy #he's emotionally intelligent to the extreme #he literally cried when he saw Tubbo was okay #he literally was there for him every second post respawn #he literally loves ctubbo more than anything on the bitch earth #yall really took that 1 line #that one innocent remark #and deemed it as proof that he's c!techno junior #newflash #HE AINT #c!techno critical #c!tubbo #c!clingyduo

[clingyduoapologist]

I just realized that the likely reason that c!Tommy doesn’t feel like c!Techno should owe him an apology for doomsday is because the entire bedrock bros era played out pretty similarly to exile.

Like, first off techno manipulates/blackmails Tommy into joining him not only by lying to him about the nature of their partnership but threatening to leave him out on his own if he denies. And remember, this is a couple days after Tommy tried killing himself in exile, he’s still very emotionally all over the place and desperately searching for companionship, which makes the eventual team up that much shadier.

Then there’s the Green Festival, where Tommy for basically the first time stands up to Techno and stays true to his ideals. How does Techno react? By destroying something Tommy loves and blaming it back on him. Again, this is strikingly similar to the methods that Dream used on Tommy in exile, so it’s not a stretch to assume that Tommy would react similarly as well. And he did, by blaming himself (“Why couldn’t you just do it to me?”).

I know it wasn’t intentional, but the parallels between Dream’s treatment of Tommy during exile and Techno’s treatment of Tommy while they lived together are very much there, and have some kinda unnerving implications for their current relationship

#dream smp #c!technoblade critical #c!techno critical #uh oh back on my bullshit sorry #dream smp analysis #I had this thought yesterday and was trying to figure out how to word it

[lasnevadaslaborunion]

the thing about ctechno is like. He is a violent anarchist when anarchism is born from hating violence and the idea that goverments are violent in the ways they can enforce their will so that one ahould be against goverment.

Then he forges an alliance with the most powerful guy.

We could have had such a fucking cool thing if he instead stayed the third side of the war, opposing both lmanberg and dream

c!Techno makes me sad to think about because he was so close to becoming one of my favorite characters, if not my actual favorite.

The concept of a character who begins their story with a shallow understanding of their chosen ideology, who makes flawed alliances due to ignorance of history, who tears down systems they (understandably) believe to be flawed while offering no effective support system for those caught in the fallout, and who eventually either drowns in their stubbornness and spite or is forced to confront the personal and wide-scale consequences of their actions, which leads to growth and transformation...

Well, it's been a brilliant arc in theory. Unfortunately, there were just too many little things that irked me about the execution.

#dsmp #c!techno critical #leftist infighting #<- don't think i've forgotten that tag #i will say that anarchism is not automatically opposed to violence in and of itself #but it should always treated as a necessary evil against powerful entities who would use it to coerce those below them #the chaotic ''dog-eat-dog'' mentality is a stereotype and not true of all or even most anarchists #disclaimer that i am more specifically a collectivist and that colors my understanding of anarchism a lot #*cue url joke*

[egopocalypse]

💀

go forth

unleash the hounds of hell GSGGDHS

💀 Doomsday... just anything about Doomsday.

OH BOY, HERE WE GO.

Most of what I'm about to say has been hashed out over and over again throughout the last year and a half, but as a writer myself, I hope I can offer a new lens in which to look at these old, well-debated arguments.

Narrative-wise, I understand why Doomsday happened. It was meant to be the lowest point of the story, the darkest hour before c!clingy made their final strike against c!Dream. It's a clear step in the Hero's Journey and arguably one of the most important for the emotional catharsis of a satisfying ending. If the stakes aren't raised enough prior to the final fight, the whole journey feels anticlimactic, which means the characters and audience won't feel that same euphoria from overcoming the Shadow (aka the villain, aka c!Dream).

However, that only focuses on how Doomsday ties into the plotline involving c!Dream. That doesn't factor in at all in regards to c!emeraldduo, whose views and reactions to Doomsday tend to be the focus of most Doomsday-related discourse (for good reason).

For c!Techno's and c!Phil's stories, Doomsday is when they (at least in my eyes) turned from anti-villains into pure villains. While I understand from their viewpoint why they decided to destroy L'Manberg, the lack of narrative consequences they've received since has ruined any potential impact Doomsday could've had on their stories. Doomsday should've severed ties with everyone in the server who fought against them, but with the Syndicate's formation and actions post-Doomsday into the present, there have been no personal ramifications for their involvement in Doomsday.

In fact, in c!Phil's case, he tried to make an excuse for it via the letters plotline, but ultimately dropped the idea when he had the potential to learn why L'Manberg mattered in the first place and possibly redeem himself in the eyes of its ex-citizens. c!Techno, meanwhile, thought Doomsday was such a great success that he decided to form a secret club to pull off the exact same catastrophe if he ultimately decided there was another threat to his individual power. However, because he's failed to realize that was never the point of L'Manberg (at least, not to its people), the only thing he's done with the Syndicate is use them to throw around his own power, first with the Snowchester interrogation and then with the prison break. He hasn't learned anything about why L'Manberg felt they had to form a government (which really only became official once the elections occurred), nor why they banded together in the first place. His mindset has become so stagnant that it would take him actually losing a canon life (which he also made impossible by claiming he just has the one) or something of that magnitude to shake his worldview and start to consider other people's perspectives. Anything less would only cause him to seek vengeance and perpetuate the cycle of violence he loves to claim is universal.

Doomsday should've led to some regret and character development for c!emeraldduo, but because nothing came of it, they have the exact same ideals as before and once again committed an atrocity that (if the c!discduo Boy Who Cried Wolf arc ever picks up again) should have severe negative impacts on not only the server, but their own selves. While static characters are usually fine in stories, the streaming medium requires them to undergo some sort of character development if they wish to be POV characters, and they have yet to have anything change their views of reality and power. Until that happens, the actions they commit makes them villains in my eyes, even if they are not the biggest threat on the server.

TL;DR: Doomsday progressed the c!clingy vs. c!Dream story in a way that made sense, but provided no progress for c!emeraldduo's stories, despite plenty of opportunities to do so, making their static characters antagonists (even villains) with no ramifications for their actions.

Ask game

#ask game #friend tag #friend: sparrow #discourse #<- for blacklist #Man I really came out swinging with this one huh #The things you make me do Sparrow #The things you make me do #c!techno critical #c!phil critical #I guess? I never know what counts and what doesn't

[stellocchia]

I'm still upset about c!Niki helping to break c!Dream out of prison, but I think I've thought of a way to tweak the circumstances to make the plot of Season 4 more interesting.

It would have been a really cool twist if c!Techno had lied to her - or at least let her believe - that they were only rescuing c!Ranboo. Or have him spring it on her last minute. Either way, let c!Dream's escape come as a surprise. And let c!Ranboo's death be a devastating blow.

This would force her to doubt that the friend group she fell into after L'Manberg was destroyed is a healthy one. It would be an explicit parallel to how c!Techno treated c!Tommy during the Bedrock Bros arc - concealing the details of his plan until the last minute to make him complicit - that may encourage her to understand and make amends with her former fellow citizen. It might even lead her to question the circumstances behind c!Wilbur's spiral in Pogtopia, which c!Techno encouraged.

How many times, now, has she been lied to or left in the dark? Has she been too trusting, or simply trusted the wrong people? What use is the Syndicate's doctrine that no person can be compelled to act, if its members can still be deceived and endangered for the sake of repaying one man's debt?

This would have been a good way to spin that but, see, the problem is that it would be really hard for it to not put c!Techno in a negative light if he did this, and cc!Techno is literally a c!Techno apologist who writes like a c!Techno apologist. So sadly any twist that would make us doubt the morality of group whose objective is to impose their ideology on others through violence is not gonna happen.

BUT

With that said, we do have fanfiction for a reason and this would make for an absolute banger au!

#anon ask #dream smp #c!niki critical #c!techno critical

[sajdd]

c!techno be like "violence is the only universal language, and the only ones allowed to ever speak are me and the people who share my beliefs and/or goals."

ctechno be like "Im against tyranny. and government is tyranical" and then acts like That and also teams up with cdream looool

#c!techno critical

[melissa-s23]

People: his character is so sad :( he tries do good but is abandonned by everyone he teams up with, to the point now it seems the only allyship he can build is one of mutual benefit. He seeks justice but is always compared to a tyrant. Everyone keep villifying him and he ends up so very alone, without any friends, because he does the right thing no matter how cruel it seems.

me: haha yeah, isn't c!quackity such a sad character-

People: which is why c!techno is never wrong about anything. If you try to say he did bad stuff then clearly you don't know the character.

me:

me:

#dream smp #dsmp #quackity #meme #/lh #fandom critical #c!techno critical #just in case some ppl are sensitive #I promise I'll stop now #. . . . #I think

[peninkwrites]

💣 - Are the Syndicate's actions an accurate demonstration of anarchist principles?

Early days where we said cTechnoblade was diet anarchy and playing dress up! I wanna hear your opinion about the syndicate!

💣 - Are the Syndicate's actions an accurate demonstration of anarchist principles?

I’m going to start buzzing at high velocities I have thought about this So Much. This subject is very near and dear to my heart so. Apologies for the novel.

Anarchy in the dsmp/syndicate is not what anarchy IS. It’s not even the traditional bastardization of it!! I consider myself to be an anarchist, loosely, and I won’t pretend I’m in any way an expert or even especially knowledgeable on the broader scope of anarchy as an ideology, but all anarchist circles I’ve engaged with are not what the dsmp shows. (Nor are they a Hobbesian every-man-for-himself global cage match that fiction and even some self proclaimed anarchists might have you believe, and shame on them!) And this is mere speculation but I don’t think cc!Techno intended on this representing actual anarchy. It was a dramatic word as a catchy backsplash to conflict with Wilbur’s sensationalized version of GovernmentTM.

Where do I even begin. I guess I can start with why the syndicate, nor Technoblade’s independent actions, accurately depict anarchy. The Syndicate’s only united action (correct me if I’m wrong, but from my memory) was a. Going to Snowchester, and b. Breaking Dream out (which was a personal matter without political affiliation so I won’t explore it, if someone wants my thoughts on the dsmp and prison abolition, I will gladly give it)

Their work in Snowchester was authoritarian, not anarchistic in nature. If Tubbo had been forming a government– that’s his right. An anarchist (in my opinion! I won’t speak for all) wouldn’t try to prevent a government full stop, the goal would be to ensure that the government only effects those who consent to it. And the dsmp society is one where this is actually possible! In real life, there are simply too many people to check that everyone consents, but the dsmp is Different ok? Tubbo’s commune was a very small collective without laws or even a proper authority, the concerning power imbalance of Tubbo’s nukes set aside for now (I won’t pretend that doesn’t have its own weight, but I don’t think it has bearing in this conversation because the syndicate took no issue with nukes, only the label of “government” and I think cc!Techno’s emphasis on the minutiae of labels was a deliberate choice to turn the Syndicate’s anarchy into something flashy without substance. It’s meant to be theatre, not a political statement) the actions of the Syndicate defended no one and only involved exerting their will over others, the opposite of the ideals they claim to represent.

To backtrack further– Technoblade destroying a dictatorship with the rebels in the Pogtopia-Manberg war, I think that can qualify as anarchist action. But afterwards, when they tried to reinstitute the preexisting status quo– Technoblade completely jumped the gun. All of the people listening to Tubbo’s speech– none of them, including L’Manberg’s prior citizens were beholden to his authority or his laws, there were no laws yet! Not really! L’Manberg at its origin was a Very Small collective underneath one self declared leader, one without any presence to enforce his own will without the support of that Entire Collective. (This links back to the dsmp being incomparable to real social issues beyond the ambiguity of just say, a power imbalance) and looking back at the 16th, Technoblade summoning the withers went against the collective opinion as it stood, loosely, in the ruins of the previous regime. And one could argue Technoblade didn’t consent to this authority, but he wasn’t beholden to L’Manberg’s authority or laws!! He was the one exerting his will over others, using violence, and his point about them overthrowing a democratically elected leader is simply incorrect. Schlatt won through an ethically dubious coalition, I won’t pretend the election was morally sound to begin with or that Wilbur winning would’ve made it fair, but Schlatt’s victory was not representing the will of the people, (not to mention, the twitter poll deciding the election from an in universe standpoint, depending on what headcanons you follow, the election was determined by non-citizens with no stake in the government)

This whole ramble may seem to lean more in defense of absolute democracy, and in many ways it is, but that’s not the point. The point is no one is exerting their authority or power over someone who does not consent. Arguably, I’d say the OG L’Manberg represented an anarchist state better than the syndicate– a small collective who have agreed to a small set of rules, the enforcement of which was vague, based on a dialogue, and without an authority to inflict an unwanted will. I personally identify as an anarchist not because I think it’s realistic or even feasible in the grand scheme of things, but I do think it represents an ideal. A world in which authority and laws is unnecessary for it to exist without violence, to exist built on mutual aid and community balanced with individual autonomy, that’s the dream. And while I don’t know if it’s attainable ever, let alone within my lifetime, that’s what anarchy is to me. And I think cc!Techno knew exactly what he was doing with his warped demonstration of anarchy. Like, Wilbur’s grand stories of government and nations are also theatrics, not a political reality, especially in the dynamics of a society too small to parallel what we consider to be Society in the real world.

Thanks for giving me a reason to ramble! Anarchy is Very important to me :D

#ask games #tranztommyinnit #dream smp analysis #c!techno critical #just to be safe #meta

[flamedoesart]

I have spoken

#c!techno critical

[sleepypuffpastry]

🎉 - Did Tommy betray Technoblade at the Green Festival? >:) >:)

FAWKKKKKK NOOOO HE DIDN'T PERIODT

this PIGGY BITCH ASS lied to c!tommy constantly during bedrock bros arc about what he was planning to do to l'manburg for so long until he finally told c!tommy the truth along with saying that HE DIDN'T RESPECT C!TOMMY UNTIL HE HELPED KIDNAPPED A MFER

then we have my bebe chomitomolo who told c!techno the truth the whole time about what he wanted

so this dumbass pig fucker should have known c!tommy would have eventually left his ass for c!tubbo liek c!tommy literally told him he didn't want to hurt c!tubbo

also the whole c!tommy should be able to leave a toxic mentor figure, especially fresh out of an abusive situation (exile), if he wants but other people have explained that better than i can

#ask #c!techno critical #lore discourse game

[tobi-smp]

It's so weird to me that like. someone who literally blew up lmanburg twice and promised to do it again got to retire or whatever but the kid who got traumatized severely and people literally watched his abuser almost kill his best friend still went "yeah he's the evil one that we'll use as a scapegoat". in some world techno could be a scapegoat, and that his underdog moment but alas

context: [Link]

hey who remembers that time I laid out the fact that dream manipulated techno the entire time he's been on the server, but techno has never noticed because it's never actually impacted him negatively [Link]

I've said it before, but emeralduo fans would level up in fan content the moment they realized that the character best in the position to farm angst is dream.

he's the one whose Actually at the center of the power structure on the server, having been in control for years. he's the one whose had the revival book that he's Completely Willing To Use to torment and bribe people with (when he'd made it Completely Clear that he'd be willing to torture and kill phil on repeat in order to test it, and when both phil and techno are already down to one life). he’s the one that’s not only a physical match for techno, but who has other strong people that he’d be able to manipulate into fighting with him (punz, bad, and ant in the present and a host of other people further back in the timeline).

and dream is serial killing mass murdering manipulating abuser with a god complex who sees every single member of the server as his property that he’s free to use however he wants.

if techno is ever going to be the underdog in any situation it’s going to be with dream, and the angst potential Of it is Something Else.

because technoblade thinks he’s safe from dream, he thinks dream has some level of respect for him. and he does, in the sense that he sees technoblade as a weapon to point at the people that he wants to hurt.

as long as dream Doesn’t have absolute power technoblade is convenient because he can use technoblade as a means to an ends. but he doesn’t Care about technoblade. and not only does he not care about him, he’s an Obstacle. because technoblade is an actual challenge to his authority. he’s an actual match to his strength and his wealth and, more recently, to his connections.

which means that any reality where dream makes a bid for total control over the server is going to have to include “dealing with” techno one way or another.

if technoblade and dream had been allowed to go into conflict after dream’s escape, when technoblade openly refused a partnership with him, then season four would’ve been good.

(or it at least would’ve had Any Overarching Conflict At All)

#dream smp #technoblade #dreamwastaken #c!techno critical #sort of #the majority of this is techno apologist friendly but the context isn't akfjlsd

[clingyduoapologist]

c!technoblade is a mary sue

#he annoys me #dream smp #c!techno critical #c!technoblade critical