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trashcanalienist · 3 years

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More black people in robot fiction please!! My god, what I've been missing out on! What with: primarily, the Purpose of robot fiction; secondarily, the development of a world in which robots exist; and thirdly, black people existing in movies. Detective Del Spooner being a robot-racist is a fun spin cause he's black, but...come on man, you ain't tryna tell me racism's over because we invented a slave class. Like Harry Domin indirectly stated - as long as we are different, we will hate each other for being different. Robots are similar even if not identical, and thus do not - even cannot - hate each other. Y'all coulda kept the Elijah Bailey vibe...Lije wasn't too thrilled about robots, but he accepted them as part of the world and kept his dislike for them harmless and professional. Like Eddie Valiant with toons. Man, Roger Rabbit's a good movie.

Will Smith got his fuсkin Converse All-Stars and his sweet potato pie and he out to solve some murders! He's even got a god damn guitar wall in his little apartment. Bet your аss he don't play one of them in the movie. EVEN BETTER,, THE FIRST WHITE PERSON TO SPEAK IN THIS MOVIE (though he be the hologram of the dead roboticist, Alfred Lanning), IN HIS FIRST EVER LINE, CALLS DETECTIVE DEL SPOONER "son". YES! THAT IS WHAT I CALL...UH...well it's not exactly racial subtext, but also that's exactly what it is. R. Sammy and everything. I wish they'd've gone a little further with the "robot" designation used as a method of...not dehumanization because they're not living or humans, but...devaluing? It is obvious that Giskard Reventlov is a robot, so it is considered rude to distinguish him from other Aurorans with that R., whereas the Earthmen delight in devaluing their machines by insisting on that R, denying them last names, giving them names like "Sammy", and calling them "boy"...sound familiar? Anyways that's how it is in the novels, I wish it were the same here.

Del Spooner thinks a robot can do crime even though no robots have ever done crimes. He thinks this because he is prejudiced. This is the weakest facet of the movie. He's prejudiced because one time he and another car got shoved off a bridge into the water, and a passing NS-4 saved him but not the little girl in the other car. They say it's about percentages, and it is, but the robot should still have been positronically affected by not being able to save Sarah as well. Like those poor Solarians who couldn't save Dr. Delmarre. It should at the very least exhibit some cognitive dysfunction as a result of not being physically able to obey such a strong Law.

I think if a robot can commit a crime then the First Law must be strengthened. The definition of "harming a human being" would need to be expanded. It would lead to slight issues like Herbie and might make robots less useful, but the point of the Laws is to promote safety over usefulness. I am glad then to see that no robot who obeys the Laws has ever committed any crime.

Anyways Del's a cop with a "documented history of savage violence against robots" man come on, grow up. Get some god dаmn therapy

Aight so they put the Laws onscreen before the movie fully starts, but then Del asks Dr. Calvin some very basic questions genuinely and it's like...Del man how you live in this world and you don't know how the Laws relate to and conflict with each other?? I know USR is still in its relatively early days, but come on! Well, he's the type to endanger himself, his passenger, and every other motorist by taking manual control of a self-driving car. Spoon's the type of guy who opens the front door of a house that ain't his, LEAVES it open, and then gets spooked when the wind slams it shut. That's why he hates robots, man. He's just that kind of guy...the entitlement combined with the proud humanism.

They shoulda subtitled this movie "Will Smith Does Millions Of Dollars Worth Of Property Damage" bro even before the NS-5s start attacking him he's blowing their positronic brains out...man those things ain't cheap! Or maybe they are! I don't know! Del's grandma can't seem to afford one, but they're mass produced and their creator Alfred Lanning wanted robots in every household. Bet he'd love Solaria

On one hand I understand and agree with Del's reluctance to talk around what is in this film possibly corporate spyware. On the other hand the anticorporate subtext in this movie kinda muddles the whole robot racism thing. Like yeah I'd be polite to FedEx NS-4 but I'd also shoot down Amazon drones with a BB gun so

#robot thoughts #robots #robot #detective del spooner #del spooner #i robot #i robot (2004)#rur #r.u.r.#rossum's universal robots #harry domin #robot novels #elijah bailey #lije bailey #more to follow #solaria #giskard reventlov #r. sammy #will smith

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teachinginreallife · 6 years

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When students try to give excuses

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markiplitessepticeyes · 6 years

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Hello Detective Spooner, my name is Connor, and I am the android sent by

Cyberlife....

#detroit become human #i robot #I really wanted to make this #edits #connor #detective del spooner #will smith #bryan dechart

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ask-darling-xoxo · 3 years

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Can you tell us about your iRobot YB au? 👀

Yes!

So if you haven’t seen the movie iRobot, it takes place in 2035, where highly intelligent robots fill public service positions throughout the world, operating under three rules to keep humans safe. Despite his dark history with robotics, Detective Del Spooner (Will Smith) investigates the alleged suicide of U.S. Robotics founder Alfred Lanning (James Cromwell) and believes that a human-like robot (Alan Tudyk) murdered him. With the help of a robot expert (Bridget Moynahan), Spooner discovers a conspiracy that may enslave the human race

Anyways, My AU basically kinda follows the movie except of course YB exists as a boyfriend bot. Y/n is an expert on robotics and is tasked with making the boyfriend bots more “realistic and more romantic”. This turns out to be a bad idea as the beta robot she’s working on begins to have real human emotion. YB becomes sentient and decides he wants to have y/n to himself. He won’t let her date anyone but him. Y/n doesn’t know that he’s sentient though and proceeds treating him as if he were a pet or just a simple object that can’t hurt them. In this AU, Don is the owner of the robot boyfriend corporate btw.

However, y/n begins to get suspicious when close friends of theirs (and their dates) begin to disappear. That’s when police step in and a detective (Dons son) suspects that a sentient robot aka Robot YB is behind the disappearances of people. Dons son doesn’t like robots nor does he like his father and wants to bring down the Corporation so he doesn’t really care about doing a real investigation and tries to stop y/n from protecting the robots. Y/n really enjoys her job and of course gets upset that the detective wants to take it away all because he has personal issues.

This angers YB as he doesn’t want Y/n to be unhappy and tries to murder the detective.

How was that? Did I explain it well? Is there anything else you wanna know?

#fanfiction #your boyfriend visual novel #yb peter #your boyfriend fanart #your boyfriend game #your boyfriend oc #your boyfriend peter #your boyfriend visual game #y/n your boyfriend #yourboyfriendpeter

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chantillyxlacey · 4 years

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alternate universe version of i robot where instead of will smith, detective delia “del” spooner is played by jada pinket smith

and it ends in polyamory between her, dr calvin, and sonny??

#i don't ship canon del with either of them but fem!del?? that slaps #this sure is a post

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reviewmedia · 5 years

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I, Robot

Disclaimer this review contains spoilers for I, Robot (2004).

“What does this action signify ;)”

Bio

I, Robot is a sci-fi thriller, released in 2004. Set in 2035 the story follows Del Spooner, a detective with a chip on his shoulder as he investigates the death of scientist and founder of USR, Alfred Lanning.

Acting

Will Smith (who plays Del Spooner) clearly gave this his all and it’s one of his better performances. It doesn’t matter if he’s delivering one liners (which there are plenty) or giving an emotional performance because Smith hits the right notes. Similar can be said for his co-star Alan Tudyk (who played Sonny). Unfortunately, Bridget Moynaha (who played Susan Calvin) performance fell a bit flat but does improve through the course of the film. While I didn’t have an issue with any of the other actors’ performances, I was disappointed with the lack of time spent with these characters. This became frustrating as I was curious to get to know these characters but the film never got further than outlining their relationship with the protagonist and demonstrating how Spooner was alone in his distrust of robots.

Writing

For the most part I didn’t have an issue with the writing. The characters all had clear opinions and felt unique. Smith is given a lot of jokes to work with and I found these to be genuinely funny. That being said the writing wasn’t perfect. As mentioned above the side characters were severely underdeveloped and to a lesser extent so were the lead roles. An example is that Lanning (portrayed by James Cromwell) hints that his relationship with Spooner isn’t normal, yet we never find out why. We know he worked on Spooner’s prosthetic arm but it felt as if there was more history between them that wasn’t explored. There were also some inconsistencies such as Spooner being afraid of heights near the end of the movie, but leaning over the edge where Lanning had been killed at the beginning of the movie. The later scene would have been more consistent and tense if Spooner had displayed how uncomfortable he was in the beginning of the film when he was in Lanning’s office.

Story

At its heart I, Robot is a crime story in a futuristic setting and for the most part it’s done well. I liked that Sonny was originally portrayed as an antagonist. I thought it was convincing due to his introduction and the chase that followed. I also really enjoyed how the story was told, seeing Spooner investigate Lanning’s death never felt like a chore. This was of course due to how fast pace it was, which was at times to its detriment. Certain elements could have been explored more. But the positive was that the film never stagnated and remained engaging. The villain’s motive was nothing new or ground breaking. I personally liked that V.I.K.I’s goal wasn’t to end mankind, but was a misguided attempting to protect humanity as a collective. My biggest complaint in regards to the story was the lack of themes explored and the lost potential. For example, V.I.K.I (portrayed by Fiona Hogan) claimed that humanity was destructive and was set on its own extinction. Yet we see no evidence of this in the film, in fact the lack of world building is such a shame because the movie would have really benefited from it. We see many examples of how society trusts robots and I really do like how they’re implemented into the world. But we never go beyond that, leaving the world feeling two dimensional. The other issue I had was Lanning’s overall plan relying too much on chance. He essentially kills himself with the assistance of Sonny and expects Spooner to figure everything out. I also didn’t understand why he had to die as at the time of death the NS-5’s weren’t connected to V.I.K.I. Meaning there wasn’t much threat of being attacked. The film tries to suggest no one would believe him, but even if that was the case (which I don’t know why they wouldn’t as he’s a well-respected expert in that field) he could have just gone rogue and killed V.I.K.I himself, sure he’d be sued and lost lots of money but he’d be alive. The final issue I had with the story was the lack of consequence, by the end of the movie the only characters to have died (excluding Lanning) were the villain (V.I.K.I) and the antagonist who we had been lead to root against until the climax of the film.

Cinematography

In regards to cinematography I, Robot takes inspiration from The Matrix. This is defiantly one of the films strengths. Seeing Smith wield a giant futuristic machine gun, tearing apart robots. While the camera moves around the interior of a sky scrapper, showing not just how outnumbered the hero is but also how easy it would be to fall was disorientating in the best kind of way. Fortunately, there are many moments like this that do a really good job at creating tension and setting the right mood. There are some truly epic action sequences that kept me on the edge of my seat. The director (Alex Proyas) proves he’s capable at pulling off more than action scenes. With flashbacks, tense chases and even a montage, all of which I’m happy to say still hold up.

Visuals

The visuals for I, Robot are a real mix, the NS-5’s and other robots have aged surprisingly well. Obviously if the movie was released today, I’d expect them to look better than they did, but fifteen years later I’m defiantly not complaining about their appearance and similar can be said about the vehicles. This being said, there is a very heavy reliance on CGI and it shows. Not only does some of the CGI not hold up (exterior of USR building) but the arguably over reliance meant that places that weren’t CGI looked out of place as these scenes didn’t match some of the other scenes and as a viewer this constant switch between CGI and none CGI became jarring. Costumes like the soldiers and S.W.A.T police also looked really cheap and un-tough, resembling something closer to a laser tag outfit.

Audio

Sound design was really good. Marco Beltrami has added so much emotional depth with his music, it doesn’t overstay its welcome and is one of the highlights of the film as it’s cleverly used to create tension. The guns and cars sound believable, with no real negatives to speak of. The audio was clear and impactful with certain moments being very satisfying to hear, such as Sonny using a wire to ping himself to save Calvin.

Misc

I had an issue with how Calvin was treated. When Spooner is first introduced to her, he laughs at her and doesn’t take her seriously. While you could interpret this as Spooner being arrogant and it being an area that we’ll see him grow away from, I wasn’t convinced. This is because near the end of the movie Farber (portrayed by Shia LaBeouf) openly sexualise Calvin in front of her and the only part that Spooner objects to is the use of the word “shit”. This to me comes off as the leading female role being objectified and really didn’t need to be included, it makes for uncomfortable viewing and took away from the experience.

While I, Robot is the name, product placement is the game. I personally didn’t mind this too much and found it humorous. However, the Audi logo sticking out from Spooner’s headrest just seems kind of uncomfortable, but that’s just my opinion.

Verdict

To conclude I rate this film 4/10. I, Robot is a very enjoyable film that’s funny, action packed and is well paced. I had a blast watching this and there really is a lot of fun to have with this film. However, I was really disappointed in the character development and lack of world building and as enjoyable as this movie is, it doesn’t take full advantage of its setting or explore the themes in a meaningful enough way. The reason I, Robot isn’t spoken about as much as other films from 2004 or earlier isn’t because the visuals don’t 100% hold up, it’s because it doesn’t make you think. Sci-fi is a genre where you can explore the impossible, get lost in complex socio-political structures that as alien as they are reflect our own reality. And go beyond the questions of what a soul is. But unfortunately, I, Robot doesn’t do that, instead the film plays it safe with underdeveloped character in a 2D world. The movie has other issues too like some mild sexism (compared to other movies), plot holes, some pretty awful costume designs and CGI, an in-consequential ending and some minor issues like the occasional bit of inconsistent dialog or some bad acting.

Recommendation

Would I recommend this film? That depends what you’re interested in. If you want a fast pace action movie in a sci-fi setting, then yeah you won’t be disappointed. But if you yearn for a film that makes you question if humanity is going too far creating artificial intelligent and whether or not robots/AI should be entitled to the same rights humans are or other similar question. Then I’m afraid no, I cannot recommend this.

PUNISHMENT: Converse all stars vintage 2004

#film #review #I robot #movie #movie review #sci-fi

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an-old-telephone · 5 years

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alright im gonna make a series of three posts that are basically going to sum up to being a comprehensive comparison between Detroit: Become Human and I, Robot (ESPECIALLY the movie) so there are going to be spoilers for the movie/book AND game anyway on to the actual typing - in order, the posts are going to be the comparison between dbh/i robot as a whole, the three laws as applied to dbh, and how rA9 links into this whole thing

Part I: the “easter eggs” (if you can really call them that)

there is literally no way that david cage had not seen (if not even read) I, Robot - but there’s a lot of reasons why I think he made the game more as a nod to Asimov’s amazing book and the movie with Will Smith’s pretty great performance, and here they are going to be listed, in no specific order

lets immediately get the similarities between Lieutenant Hank Anderson and Detective Del Spooner: both are the weathered, gruff investigators, with a deep distrust of androids and a sort of relative hatred of them, which ends up being because of something not specifically bad - but inherently wrong (cole died because no human could operate, while sarah died ebcause the android felt del had a better survival chance)

AND the fact that i, robot, which clearly has much more preliminary robots, is set in 2035, while dbh is set in 2038 - three years later, when androids could be more evolved

the look of the robots, just look at them- first the USR NS-5 and under it Kara, the first is basically just a past model of the same thing

the literal fact that USR and Cyberlife are both android monopolies

the setting: remember the opening to detroit? remember the city in i robot? both are highly technologically advanced, with cyberlife/USR controlled big screens, advertising the androids and life with androids

the fucking wink. the goddamn - both connor and sonny wink as a sign of “friendliness”

david cage doesn’t explicitly ever mention the three laws, but i beleive that if you take i robot as a sort of,... prequel of the events in dbh, you can understand why - the three laws would have had to be adapted (and that’s gonna be my following post)

the colour blue - yes, i know that blue has always been a very technologically associated colour, but there’s something poetic about the fact that the positronic brain and thirium boht being the “lifeblood” or “lifeline” of the androids, and both being blue

the fact that sonny has a “second positronic brain” like a heart, where cyberlife androids have a thirium pump, a very vital biocomponent, in the same place

robertson and kamski like bruh “richest man on earth”

the idea of “shitting on the little guy” - like, sure, we already see this in our current era as automation becomes more and more common, but having this so prominently? as a very central idea even ? yep

THAT GODDAMN WAREHOUSE SCENE ??? which one? yes- i mean the one where spooner and calvin go to that storage house to find the “deviant” android, which is soooo reminiscent of the cyberlife tower scene

robojesus - marcus and sonny are both robojesus

that interrogation scene as well, reminiscent of the TWENTY EIGHT STABWOUNDS part

the fact that both very clearly set out the notion of fear in androids - del tells ns 5 that androids cannot feel fear, while in dbh fear is a central theme in deviated androids

man add your own because there were so many and i cannot remember all of them even after having finished the movie about half an hour ago

#detroit become human #dbh #david cage #i robot #will smith #rk800 #ax400 #rk900 #isaac asimov #ns 5 #long post #part 1/3

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gtunesmiff · 5 years

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Does believing you're the last sane man on the planet make you crazy? 'Cause if that's the case, maybe I am.

Detective Del Spooner | i, Robot

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ryuki-blogs · 5 years

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Very unfortunate Caves of Steel adaptation aka I, Robot 2

Will Smith’s character Del Spooner is Elijah Baley, obviously.

Sonny’s positronic brain was put in humaniform robot and he looks like human now. Played again by Alan Tudyk, except he is not in a greenscreen suit. He is Daneel now.

Bridget Moynahan reprises role as Susan Calvin and the film is set maybe like, 10 year later max because nobody cares about continuity of Asimov-verse in this sequel anyway.

Spacetown murder happened 10 years ago but some evidence resurfaced now and Spooner has to investigate it. Of course it involves robot technology.

Sonny butts in to the investigation because he has that special extra positronic circuit that allows him not to obey Three Laws if he wishes and he can be, like useful. They are investigation partners now.

Susan is helping too because of course she is. Plus I really need more Susan Calvin, she is cool alright.

Spacetown is very clean and polished and everyone wears white and it looks like an Apple store.

Yes, we will get the shower scene with Will Smith and Alan Tudyk. (Those who read the book KNOW, the rest of audience will be like “Oh my god”)

They cast Michael Fassbender as Dr. Fastolfe minus all physical flaws Dr. Fastolfe has. He should have probably played Dr. Sarton/Daneel but director decided that after Prometheus and Covenant, nobody will believe that Michael Fassbender is a robot that will not backstab anyone.

The murder happened because 10 years ago there was an Earthman that broke in to Spacetown to steal Spacer’s technology for humaniform robots and Dr. Sarton died.

Plot twist is that Dr. Fastolfe did it. He came in running with a blaster but Earthman was gone and he shot Dr. Sarton instead.

But actual plot twist is that Dr. Fastolfe is a robot! Well, kinda. A Spacer humaniform robot is pretending to be Dr. Fastolfe and we will get Michael Fassbender flashing his chest open to show wires and metal like Daneel on Naked Sun cover.

He will reveal that the reason Sonny can have humaniform body is the stolen Spacer technology from 10 years ago and US Robotics will probably get sued.

The end??

Of course to add action there will be very intense Expressway chase but with probably more casualties and explosions.

Spooner and Sonny are disaster duo and Susan Calvin is facepalming.

Everytime Susan and Spooner argue about something and Sonny leans to detective’s side, Susan mumbles something like “I should have blasted you the moment you told me you had dreams”

Because that’s what she did in the book.

People please read the short stories and the Robot Series before Hollywood adapts the Caves of Steel I am begging you.

#isaac asimov #everyone should read the Robot Series #caves of steel #i robot #please don't take me seriously #and read the books maybe?#they are good I promise #actually film is not that bad if you haven't read the books #even if you did read the books you can enjoy the film #who am I to shame you #I did enjoy it

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