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#egg prime directive
punishedmutt · 18 days
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so fucking WHAT if that person is just a GNC man?
so fucking what!?
what is possibly the worst thing that could happen?
that he thinks about gender more? that he starts trying out new names and styles?
or that he *GASP* does "irreversible damage" to his body!?
oooohhh noOoOoOoOoOo we have to protect these poooooor gnc men from looking like a tra- i mean from feeling slightly uncomfortable😇
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zoestorm · 6 months
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No, I don't care if you "Just wanna see what she does" or that "It's enrichment!" or that "Oh come on, she'll never come out at this rate," please don't knock on the trans girl's eggshell. You're going to spook her.
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furrylibrarian · 19 days
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Okay so like I’ve self-identified as trans for over a year now
And one of the main resources that helped me understand and get comfortable with that identity brought up the “egg prime directive” thing, and like it made sense to me
And since getting on Tumblr I’ve seen a lot of folks who are… very open and passionate about how they think the egg prime directive is horrible and people who agree with it are also horrible
And now I’m feeling weird and confused and like are they right??? Am I part of the problem??? Was the website that brought me comfort when my sense of self shattered and helped me feel more in touch with myself a lie???
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fingaltorkel · 19 days
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adding my two cents because i can, i think that the egg prime directive is actively stupid in its black and white nature. i would have given anything for someone to have told me earlier that what im experiencing could be signs of gender dysphoria. i cant imagine a world where even if it was too early for me to consider, it would have pushed me further away from transition. i was always experiencing dysphoria and struggled my entire life wondering why everything was so fucking hard and how horrible my luck was, and i just didn't know that what i was experiencing was dysphoria.
i completely understand the fear that someone could hear that and not be in a place to receive it and back away from that realization further. i can also understand the fear of accidentally giving someone who's nb the idea that they're transfemme when they're not and possibly throwing a wrench in that journey for them. but i don't think the risks are that realistic, and certainly don't outweigh the benefits of someone starting their journey sooner. i don't think there's like this gigantic danger in totally throwing someone off of their personal timeline, i think people generally are more solid in it than we may be giving them credit for.
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when u find an obvious trans girl in denial and u have to do a whole ass metaphorical egg and spoon race to avoid violating the prime directive
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june-egbert-official · 2 months
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hi i'm june egbert (officially) and i'm here to say; if you believe in the "egg prime directive", that is the idea that you can never tell anyone they might want to consider being a trans woman or trans fem or just not fully cisgender, and even that they should consider estrogen or other hrt?
i think you should die! yes. you personally. i don't care how. maybe hammers and cars since that's so popular for transmisogynists. okay maybe not the trans fems who believe it, y'all should just figure out why you believe that your experiences are bad and nobody should ever discover their true self and unlearn the hatred and pain that lead you to think this.
trans women should be allowed to see ourselves and our experiences in others, full stop, no caveats. alive or dead, famous or nobody, any race, age, color or creed. this includes telling them we've experienced the same. this includes saying we see our experience in theirs.
i don't care if it's arin hanson or kurt cobain or lilly anarkitty (aaron bushnell) or some random guy you saw on twitter posting a dead eyed selfie.
if you, as a totally cisgender guy, don't like being called an egg or jokingly told to transition? examine why. what part of the transition process makes you angry or offended. if being a trans woman is a truly neutral thing and you are totally a cis man...why should it bother you?
anyway the egg prime directive is evil nonsense and if you believe it you need to examine why.
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coldgoldlazarus · 17 days
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Maybe the solution to egg discourse, is that sometimes suggestions help trans people figure it out, and sometimes it pushes them deeper into denial instead, and so we shouldn't be making broad assumptions about what is or isn't good for someone, and just take each instance on a contextual basis?
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number1villainstan · 8 months
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Shigaraki: i don't care if you're yakuza, you should respect big sis magne's gender! Chisaki, drunk: gender is a scam meant to sell bathrooms and baby clothes. leave me alone
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transmechanicus · 1 year
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Nah i actually had an egg angry with me latrr for not pushing them on their hang ups earlier cuz they were mad at themself for wasting so much time in denial so i wouldnt prescribe any universal guidelines on eggs
That's literally not your fault tho, the near-universal agreement is to not try and push someone to come out or Realize they're trans before they're ready, because it's uncomfortable and weird to pressure someone towards identifying as trans. You can suggest things for the person to try out and experiment, but unless they ask for it, the other person shouldn't expect you to Push Them. Sorry your omelette didn't communicate properly but it's not at all something they get to blame on you.
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tigerbears · 6 months
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Interesting fact, my views on Rowling have literally gone full circle.
Me as a bloody child: "Harry Potter is satanic! Witches and Wizards are of the devil! J. K. Rowling is bad!" Me a few years ago as a teen: "I WAS CRAZY! Harry Potter is not satanic! Witches and Wizards are fine! J. K. Rowling is fine I'm sure nothing will ever cause me to change these views!" Me after some egg cracking sounds, and becoming more aware of Rowling transphobia: "Oh... Rowling hates trans people... and I'm trans people... Never mind! J. K. Rowling is bad again!"
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demilypyro · 5 months
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Denying a trans reading of Scott Pilgrim not because I don't see it but because if Scott was an egg and Ramona was a trans woman then there'd be no fucking way she'd be adhering to the prime directive this fucking hard whenever he says some egg shit. Scott would talk about his hair or go on about how he wishes he was a lesbian and her face would contort like a deflating basketball from the relatable cringe of it all
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azuredragoonterra · 1 month
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Violating the egg prime directive so hard I think my coworker is gonna take a half day.
Cracking eggs cus god this boy needed it
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neverendingford · 3 months
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#tag talk#the whole “egg prime directive” thing is so dumb. like.. yeah sure if you go “hey you're trans” then yeah you're dumb#but like. you can encourage people to explore and interrogate gendered life experience without being an idiot and assuming gender experience#the prime directive shit gets read as “protect questioning eggs” or whatever when imo it should get read as#read as “don't assume someone's gender journey is the same as your own (you dumb idiot)”#anyway I think this is why I've really avoided explicitly queer spaces online. tangentially? sure I love that shit#but the amount of blind shortsighted people making assumptions. ughhhhh#I always have to remind myself to keep it specifically hating what people do not what they are because it's easy to just drop into#drop into being like “ugh those dumb trans people” when I'm literally one of those dumb trans people. but like. idk.#every time I go on trans reddit I regret it because I just leave five minutes later like “wow everyone is stupid and I hate them”#genderqueer struggle when everyone is like “being trans is about these five things” but you don't match because you're a separate individual#and it's like ahh cool thanks for defining the transgender experience in such a way that it marginalizes trans people.#this will have no negative consequences whatsoever#sorry I'm really mad I just finished an argument with someone and made the mistake about caring about an online argument#sometimes people need encouragement to break out of their gender restrictions. sometimes you can be the one to validate someone's questions#done just stand back and watch someone struggle and say “oh it's for the best if we don't interfere”#anyway. I'm gonna go play some minecraft
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sodabread · 3 months
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My friend after telling me he’s basically trans/egg and basically borderline: “Anyway I’m so sad.”
Me, who is out as trans and recovering borderline: “I have a wild theory about why that might be girl!”
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anarcho-skamunist · 2 months
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The fact that the two biggest arguments people make about the 'egg prime directive' or whatever you want to call it are "you're reinforcing gender stereotypes by suggesting someone could be trans" (one of the oldest transphobic talking points in the book is "trans people enforce gender rolls") and "what if they're not trans and it makes them uncomfortable!" (I would rather let a thousand cis people be made uncomfortable about gender than let one trans person feel like they shouldn't talk about their gender) should show you just how unserious a 'rule' it is.
Like if it was just trans people saying "yeah if someone compared their experiences to mine before i had realized, i would have probably been chased further into the closet because it would have scared and confused me" I would absolutely be more amenable to it as a hard and fast rule despite it going against my own personal experience. But as it stands I've seen far more trans people express a wish that someone had said something earlier. The conclusion should have been "suggesting someone might be transgender is a big deal that could either benefit or hurt them on a case by case basis and should therefore be carefully considered and it is best not to make it a joke if you're talking to them about it" but instead it's "trans people need to shut the fuck up. Don't you know that suggesting that someone might be like you is insulting and disgusting?"
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fungalfaggot · 19 days
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one of the first people i expressed clear signs of dysphoria/gender questioning to was a cis lesbian who tried to talk me out of it. "it's ok to just be a man". a few weeks after I finally came out she made false accusations about me that lost me my job, the majority of my friends, got me threats of violence and had me scrambling to move out of town to get away from it all. if only i had chosen to confide in a tgirl egg cracker my life maybe woulda gone different! anyways i can't take this egg prime directive shit serious go fuck yourself
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