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troonwolf · 1 year

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Do you have any legit reason for calling it a cult? Or do you just dislike them

Here I've basically answered this before but I do have a lot more to say so buckle in because you literally asked for it.

First, excerpts from private essays alters in here have written -

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"Many cults and fringe spiritual communities have sprouted from Western religious fundamentalism, based on the idea that symptoms of mental illness aren’t really mental illness, that medicine and psychology can’t be trusted, and that what mentally ill people need is to somehow ascend passed their illness.

We see this in Scientology for instance, which when you look at it, actually holds similar ideas to endogenic spirituality: symptoms of mental illness are attributed to alien ghosts plaguing the body, psychiatry is completely rejected, and the only way to treat mental illness is to ascend to higher consciousness.

Obviously, Scientology isn’t the only cult that believes such things, just the most recognisable. If you look through the history of Western cults and fundamentalism, you’ll find an on-going theme of rejecting psychiatry, rejecting medicine, and telling people their mental illness is either a gift from god or a curse they have to overcome.

Endogenics hold the exact same position: symptoms of a mental health issue (dissociation, identity disturbance, internal voices) aren’t symptoms of a mental health issue. They’re a natural part of you- in fact they make you a better person than if you were singlet. They treat “pluralty” as if it’s a higher state of being, and many of them come from faith backgrounds which most now reject, but have replaced by spiritualising mental health."

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"+ Link to a whole article denying DID systems personhood. They’re telling mentally ill people that to be considered worthy of personhood, they have to assimilate into this belief system. I also know many systems who have had this done to them when they were in “mixed origin” spaces, and have experienced this for myself. It’s even worse in private spaces, where they can’t be held accountable for their actions."

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Also to break this down / add to it:

They have a niche belief system that rejects our known understanding of the world while placing all their faith on an ideology with no proof behind it and no support from respected institutions, either spiritual or scientific.

They actively target mentally ill and vulnerable people to assimilate into their belief system and instil a fear in them towards seeking treatment or of being seen as mentally ill, as well as an overall distrust in the field of psychiatry as a whole. (Not just criticism towards the institution for its many disgraces during its development, but an outright rejection of it as an idea.)

They go as far as to spread guides on how you can force dissociation or hallucinations- this is literally cult programming.

They further other forms of cult programming, such as system hopping which is inherently a tactic of abuse and control.

Anyone who denounces the cult is othered using language that would be incomprehensible to someone not in the cult - traumascum, sysmed, etc.

They treat their ideology and "plurality" as a higher state of being and use that as a method of recruiting others, telling singlets it's just better to be plural, and constantly challenging DID systems that they may be endogenic.

Their ideology causes the same harm towards mentally ill and vulnerable people that other similar cults do. People deny themselves treatment and worsen their symptoms, either purposely or through that denial.

We used to be pro endo. We were surrounded by endogenic systems. The things we saw them say in private spaces are even worse than what they get away with in public. Alters with loose grasps on reality were told they can't be a real person because they're just a symptom, and that if they felt like they were a "real person", then they HAD to be a "endogenic headmate" or a "soulbond".

Anyway as you can probably guess, this led to a denial of trauma, a denial there was anything wrong with them, an increase in dissociation and I remember one of them insisted he was "actually tethered to the body, not inside it". Bizarrely enough it even led to a complete denial of the system in some instances. (???? boy was smoking that snoop dogg shit ig)

Obviously the consequences of all this to the system as a whole were not good even if I'm able to joke about it now.

It's almost as if I dislike endos because I've seen the ramifications of their belief system first hand or something. Weird.

And before someone goes "WELL YOU SHOULDN'T BE COMPARING IT TO A CULT ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE INVALIDATING CULT SURVIVORS BY-" I'm a cult survivor. I was raised in a cult. The whole reason some alters were susceptible towards the endogenic thing was because they were already pre-programmed to be influenced by those things. Over the years all these experiences have led to us being good at recognising cult programming. Also shut up.

Actually actually- on a side note-note. I think a problem some people have with this is they can't comprehend that a cult can exist on the internet, but you just have to look around you. Q-Anon started on the internet. Anti-vaxx and Alex Jones were popularised by the internet. There's other lesser known cults that started on Facebook or internet forums. This isn't new.

And additionslly, another reason endos aren't seen as a cult is because they align themselves with the left and the LGBT+ community. Since we're misunderstood communities who are used to being invalidated, we don't like the idea of invalidating others. It's easy to convince a queer person that their MAGA-hat wearing drunken Q-Anon uncle is a member of a cult and obviously shouldn't be validated. It's a lot harder to convince them that their fellow queer or disabled person who is overall well-meaning towards people, could also fall victim to a cult and also shouldn't be validated.

But again if you look at how cults actually operate, this isn't new. They often latch onto already misunderstood communities because they're less scrutinised there. It's not even a conscious plan on their part, it's just "well these people also have beliefs and ideas that aren't accepted by normie society, so I'll hang out with them."

And finally for more examples of endos being culty you can look at my tag: endo cult, because I call things what they are.

#genuinely I don't usually like painting targets on ourselves like this #but it's very important to me you all begin to understand this is a cult #which is also one of the reasons I keep obliging questions like these #anti endo #syscourse #endo cult #also pls take note of the fact I gain literally nothing from talking about this #and the only thing I have ever got out of talking about this #is negative attention #or confused singlets asking questions because they have no idea wtf an endo even is #so don't try to present me as being in bad faith or ''just disliking someone''#like please think realistically wtf would I be getting out of that #esp when most people disagree with me even if they are anti endo #but I've Experienced Things and Made Observations and this is my conclusion #pinning this now because it made a lot of people whine at me and invalidate my trauma <3 #ty for proving you did not read anything I actually said

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alters-journal · 5 months

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Its the fastest way to get me to hate you is if your like "Teehee join the cult" i will wish death upon you under my breath for the rest of your life. Even if I die first, the chills you will get is me whispering about how much I despise your very being.

#anti endo #endos dni #cult survivor

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anti-endo-haven · 12 days

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ok so queerautism (it/its) stuff:

Allegations of it sexualizing stuff a minor said and acting predatory? Can’t confirm bc can’t find evidence / haven’t found evidence yet

Block evading

telling its followers to harass anti endos

supports endos

says it’s ok to demedicalize disorders including OCD

started its own religion and some ppl spread rumors it was a cult but from what I read it didn’t sound like a cult and other ppl said it wasn’t a count, just odd

Harmful anti-psychiatry takes

harassing ppl and encouraging others to harass ppl

says disorders and stuff can be spiritual?

encouraged somebody to stop going to therapy I think?

making cult jokes

Said being told to touch grass was ableist?

It’s made some sorta comments about the holocaust and Jewish ppl that upset Jewish ppl? (It’s not jewish to my knowledge)

constantly shits on positivity posts and starts drama for attention

*note I could be wrong about some of this, this was just a quick scroll through stuff abt it- I’ll check again when I have more time and I’ll link sources TvT

(also jokes(?) about making ppl plural. And I saw some posts saying it claimed to be a system. Some saying it was endo and some saying it was traumagenic and some saying it wasn’t a system at all so I have no idea and i don’t wanna fakeclaim-)

also supposedly it claimed it’s system was formed in adulthood but is traumagenic?? Which- that- that doesn’t work TvT

so yeah

(sorry this is so damn long- I tried to keep it short-)

also I think I used they them first ask bc I didn’t know its prns were it/its bc I didn’t check/ so I’m sorry /gen

That's... a lot. Even without the sources, that's still a lot and very disgusting behavior.

If there's another ask citing sources, I'll make sure it gets answered as soon as possible. Allegations are serious and not having sources might make a lot of people question, but everything else is vile behavior.

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sysboxes · 26 days

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[Text: This system is made up of mostly Cult of the Lamb introjects.]

Like/Reblog if you save or use

#endos dni #userbox #system #did #anti endo #osdd #traumagenic system #system stuff #this system #system userbox #cult of the lamb #cotl #cotl alter #Cult of the lamb alter #mod weeping ❤️

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killercatic · 2 months

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Followers of Starclan [left] | Followers of the Dark Forest [right]

A Ficto-Religion based on Starclan / The Place of No Stars (aka The Dark Forest) from the Warriors series. The specific beliefs are entirely up to user interpretation. Those who are in part of either or both religions do not, and should not, have a moderator or a leader, as it is entirely based on their own experiences.

I do not support fults or fultists for any reason. This term isn't intended to be MOGAI / LIOM in any way, and is just tagged at it is for reach

Blank/Alt Flags

@ficto-religious-archive

#mogai blog #mogai coining #my terms #pro endo mogai #pemogai #liom #actually mogai #coining #fictoreligion #ficto religion #neo religion #neoreligion #followers of starclan #followers of the dark forest #anti fult #anti radqueer #anti xenosatanist #anti cult

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cccat-in-a-meat-sack · 2 months

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Masterlist of information and resources for dissociative disorders, including dissociative amnesia, depersonalization-derealization disorder, and dissociative identity disorder (+ subtypes)

**THESE RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ARE NOT TO BE USED TO SELF-DX YOURSELF. THESE ARE MEANT TO BE A STARTING POINT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DISORDERS. IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING, DO MORE RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN. AND IF YOU CAN, SEE AND TALK TO A PROFESSIONAL. FURTHERMORE, I CAN BE WRONG! THESE ARTICLES CAN BE WRONG! YOU CAN SEND US ARTICLES/PAPERS ON ANYTHING HERE TO CORRECT US, AS LONG AS IT IS NOT A CARRD OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. THIS IS A STARTING POINT, A LAUNCHPAD IF YOU WILL, NOT THE FINISH LINE. **

I would also like to remind you that all systems are different. Systemhood is a spectrum, and you will see this in multiple articles on this masterlist.

Many of these articles come from did-research.org. If anyone has any other articles or papers for any of the following topics, please either dm me or send an ask. Do not reblog/comment with the article/paper.

**Some links may contain mentions of cult abuse and/or ritual abuse. This will be mostly in the polyfragmented area of this masterlist.

An overview of dissociative disorders

Resources for dissociative disorders

Expert questions and answers (the switching one in this is not very accurate, I touched on it more in the DID portion of this masterlist)

What causes dissociation (focuses more on DID but still important. please note that it's very long and wordy.)

6 DID myths (another long and wordy one. touches on the following: the belief that DID is a “fad”, the belief that DID is primarily diagnosed in North America by DID experts who overdiagnose the disorder, the belief that DID is rare, the belief that DID is an iatrogenic disorder rather than a trauma-based disorder, the belief that DID is the same entity as borderline personality disorder, and the belief that DID treatment is harmful to patients. Iatrogenic, in this instance, means "induced in a patient by the treatment or comments of a physician" according to the National Institutes of Health)

7 DID myths (easier to read, and covers different topics. Confirms there is not a limit to how many alters a system can have.)

Even more DID myths (NOTE. This article will say that different alters can have their own mental health issues. Please refer to "Can alters have different disorders than the body?" in the Dissociative Identity Disorder section of this post.)

You can find the start of the DSM-5 information on dissociative disorders here, page 336

A quick overview of Dissociative Disorders (this one has OSDD and subtypes)

DISSOCIATIVE AMNESIA:

What it is + cases/examples

More information, explanations of treatment, and other important Q&A's

Other information (basically a summary of the above two, but might be a little easier to read)

Amnesia in Dissociative Amnesia

More types of Amnesia in Dissociative Amnesia

DEPERSONALIZATION-DEREALIZATION DISORDER:

Causes, Symptoms, and more

Living with the disorder, treatment, diagnosis, and more (the overview/symptoms and causes isn't entirely accurate, but still provides a baseline)

A more compact version of the above two (but less in-depth)

An easier to read version of the above two (least in depth but covers the basics)

The most in depth (but also hardest to read and contains a lot of long words and sentences without a lot of breaks. tiny font too)

DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER:

Overview of DID

What causes DID? (scroll down to "Risk Factors")

What causes DID? (part 2)

The Theory of Structural Dissociation (the very long and complicated version)

The Theory of Structural Dissociation

Problems with the Theory of Structural Dissociation

What are alters?

Different types of alters (This one goes into detail not only about what alters are, but different types of them and how they help the body/mind. There is some misinformation sprinkled within, so don't take anything as a total fact until you do further research.)

Different types of alters (this one is easier to read and created by a system who is/was in therapy. I am uncertain if the system is diagnosed, but the basic alters and basic functions match up with many diagnosed DID systems.)

Notes on non-human alters (and why you can have entire systems of just non-human alters)

Fictives (this was literally the only article i could find. please send me more.)

A paper that talks about DID and fictives (this one was sent to me and I was unable to read it due to personal reasons)

Is there a limit to how many alters a system can have? (A woman who was diagnosed with DID was reported to have 2,500 alters)

Is there a limit to how many alters a system can have? (A center in Utah who specializes in DID confirms as many as 4,500 alters have been reported)

Is there a limit to how many alters a system can have? (Researchers are still unsure, but up to 4,500 have been reported. Scroll down to "multiple personalities")

Fragments (the most basic definition)

Fragments (scroll down to F)

Fragments

OSDD and UDD

An overview of the types of OSDD

OSDD Type 1 (You can find OSDD-1B and OSDD-1A in there)

OSDD Type 2 and OSDD Type 3 (there was barely any information on these two outside of wikipedia and other not-really-professional blogs that i had access to, but I tried my best)

OSDD Type 2 and OSDD Type 3

OSDD Type 4 (this will take you to a page called "Trance Disorder". That is what it's called in the ICD-11) (Possession Trance Disorder is also similar, you can find that here)

P-DID/Partial DID

Splitting, is it always trauma based? (the short answer, no. Direct quote: Many individuals cannot split unless a split is strictly necessary for their protection, functioning, or ability to remain hidden as a system. That said, there are exceptions. Some individuals may become so used to using splitting as a coping mechanism that they may split easily in response to seemingly minor stressors. For example, if an individual finds going to the doctor triggering, an alter may split that exists only to attend medical appointments. In some cases, systems may be so destabilized that even trauma processing leads to the creation of new parts.)

Polyfragmented DID: the very very basics

Polyfragmented DID: notes from a diagnosed polyfragmented DID system

Polyfragmented DID (you can find it on the side bar)

More notes on polyfragmented DID from a system, unable to tell if the system is diagnosed or in therapy

Comorbid disorders

Can alters have different disorders than the body? (I couldn't find a link, but short answer, yes and no. Neurodevelopmental disorders are things that are shared by all headmates, since it's all the same brain. So things like autism, ADHD, conduct disorders, those all are implemented into the brain and therefore all alters will have them. For stuff like eating disorders however, one alter may struggle with an eating disorder while others might not. Different alters can also present different symptoms/severity of a disorder.)

This is a post about a system(?) talking about fusion and their experiences

Integration and Fusion (or in simpler terms, integration is the act of breaking down amnesia barriers and building communication. Fusion is the act of fully integrating two parts into one.)

Dormancy (I could not find a good/reliable link, but it's basically when an alter "goes to sleep" for a period of time. This period of time can be long or short, and can happen for a multitude of reasons.)

Final Fusion and Functional Multiplicity

Time loss, Co Fronting, and Co Consciousness

Switching (covers passive influence too)

Passive Influence defined

Basics types of amnesia, not necessarily system related

More types of amnesia

The three most common types of amnesia from the system community, not necessarily scientific

-Emotional amnesia: where you don’t remember any emotions that you were feeling during the memory.

-Greyouts: when you remember what happened but have no memories of it, as if someone told you about the event and you might be able to recall certain details, but you weren’t there.

-Blackouts: when you don’t remember anything about what happened, and you often don’t remember that you missed something.

Innerworlds

Subsystems

Apparently Normal Parts and Emotional Parts

Primary Structural Dissociation

Secondary Structural Dissociation

Tertiary Structural Dissociation

You can find more resources here

A helpline that can help you understand and manage PTSD, dissociative disorders, and trauma can be found at (410) 825-8888 according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness

Crisis Text Line is a Text and Online Chat service provides 24/7 free support to those struggling with various mental health issues, including DID. Online chat: crisistextline.org Text: 741741

NAMI offers a volunteer helpline staffed by knowledgeable professionals who can answer your questions and connect you with valuable resources within your area. Call: (800) 950-6264 Text: Text "Helpline" to 62640

Basically every hotline you could need

Once again, these resources and information are not to be used to self-dx yourself. That means do not read this information and immediately say "oh yea i have this disorder". This is meant to be a starting point to learn more about dissociative disorders. If you feel like you might have any, do more research on your own. And, if you can, see and talk to a professional about it. These articles can be wrong. I can be wrong. We accept articles/papers/studies on anything here to correct us. Our only request is that it is not a carrd or something along those lines. This information is a starting point, and is not final.

Another good post about the basics of DID (not dissociative disorders in general, just DID and subtypes) can be found here

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confessions-of-a-doormat · 9 months

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I hate when people call everything a fucking cult. It shows how little so many people know about fucking cults and how fucking hard it is to get out. Sure, they’re good at drawing you in, but they also require you to stick to the fucking script. Questioning authority is discouraged, you go through a whole process of indoctrination. They prey on people who doesn’t have a good support system or is going through a rough time, they isolate you from the fucking world, your life, your family, your friends. They try to control everything about you. People aren’t allowed to disagree or explore other viewpoints. Cults have: a charismatic leader, indoctrination process, and strict guidelines for your life (like where you live, what you wear, who you see, what you get to do) you have to follow. You wanna criticize a group for being shitty? Go right ahead. But don’t you dare compare very much non-cult things to cults, when you have no fucking idea what it’s like for those who’ve had to go through that actual shit.

Disclaimer: I am not saying to look into cults if you have RAMCOA trauma or it would be triggering for you. I just want people to actually use their brain. Please take care of yourself if this is a triggering subject.

#cult tw #ramcoa #syscourse #system #did #osdd #anti endo #pro endo #traumagenic system #plural #pluralgang #multiple #tulpamancy #actually traumagenic #endogenic #endo safe

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sophieinwonderland · 1 year

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Okay... we need to have a conversation about coercion and consent...

[Warning: Discussion of Cults]

So this is obviously another really disgusting smear from the anti-endo community. Absolutely no one is being "forced into a dissociative state" by tulpamancy practices.

Expeiences that can be classified hallucinations or dissociation are not only trauma responses but play major roles in many religions. Speaking to gods and spirits, Astral projection (and other out of body experiences,) spirit writing, voluntary possession states and many other spiritual experiences could be classified by psychologists as dissociative or hallucinatory.

These are not only normal parts of these belief systems but are often even considered transcendent spiritual experiences that are highly sought after.

Cults coerce. They force. They torture and abuse. They isolate you. They often try to gain financial power to make you dependent on them. They lie and keep secrets to manipulate you. I shouldn't need to explain this but gross comparisons like this from anti-endos make it necessary.

The tulpamancy community empowers. We provide resources free of charge for those who seek these types of transcendent experiences. (Though most tulpamancers see the experiences as psychological rather than spiritual.) Everyone knows what they're getting into and many longer guides will include warnings and questions to ask yourself before making your first tulpa to make sure you're certain it's right for you.

And each practice is completely optional. It's a personal choice. You can pick and choose what you want to learn.

Tulpamancy is not about taking control away. It's about giving you control. If you want to learn how to let your headmates better project themselves as external hallucinations, there are detailed imposition guides for that. If you want to learn to dissociate to switch with your headmates, there are guides for that too.

Or you can learn none of it. Not everyone wants to learn these skills and that's okay too. Again, the practices one learns from tulpamancy resources are a choice.

And you don't even need to be a tulpamancer to make use of tulpamancy guides. Many other systems have made use of Wonderland and inner world guides to better immerse themselves, and I assume imposition guides would be just as effective.

Comparing intentional and informed psychological and spiritual practices to abusive cult behavior is incredibly gross and harmful to not only the plural community, but many spiritual and psychonautic communities as well. It also comes off as incredibly manipulative in a community with so many people with trauma from cults to try to play on those trauma responses by associating cults with tulpas endogenic systems to breed hatred and hostility towards us amongst survivors of this sort of abuse.

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pluralcultureis · 3 months

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Plural culture is indulging so hard on Cult of the Lamb that I now have 20+ or more introjects from the game and I'm just like "WHAT IS HAPPENING?! HELP!"

#endos dni #osdd #pdid #did #did system #pdid system #osddid #actually did #traumagenic #actually dissociative #plural culture is #tw cult mention #cw cult mention #tw cult #cw cult

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systemtermz · 2 months

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Cultive

An introject of a cult member that abused the system.

A specific kind of abuser introject.

(This Blog was created to repost terms for the convenience and comfort of others. If you remake a reclaimed flag please tag me.)

#tw cult #anti endo #endo dni #complex dissociative disorder #did alter #did community #did osdd #did system #dissociative identity disorder #other specified dissociative disorder #did flag

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crystaledhearts · 6 days

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tw: oea mention of course (trafficking mention tbmc mention cult/cult abuse mention aba/tti/conversion/wilderness therapy mentions; addition to my last ask)

shoutout to oea survivors who did not go through mc but went through oa or ra. shoutout to survivors who went through oa but not ra. shoutout to oea survivors who's organized abuse was perpetuated by their family specifically. shoutout to oea survivors who's abuse was perpetuated by their school. shoutout to oea survivors who's abuse was perpetuated by a gang. shoutout to aba/tti/conversion/wilderness therapy survivors. shoutout to cult abuse survivors who did not go through what would be considered ra or who's cult did not also engage in trafficking. shoutout to psychiatric and institutionalized abuse survivors. shoutout to oea survivors who went through labor trafficking and/or child labor but never sex trafficking and sex trafficking survivors who were not programmed. shoutout to oea survivors who developed a cdd from it but was not programmed whatsoever/did not whatsoever endure tbmc. and literally anyone else whos abuse/trauma falls under oea but that nobody talks about/that is disregarded because it's "less extreme". Thank You

-⚠️(☎️)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Abuse is abuse no matter how “small.”

Ramcoa is ramcoa no matter how “small.”

Tbmc is still tbmc regardless of programming or how “small.”

No matter how “small” the trauma, it is still trauma.

Your voices deserve to be heard rather than shunned.

You are no less a survivor just because what you went through isn’t talked about. You are still a survivor, you still belong.

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troonwolf · 1 year

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How can you tell someone is one of these white middle class people you speak of? What should i watch out for

I feel like this is sarcasm and I can't remember who I was calling white middle class people + tried looking through my blog but it's too far back or in between memes for my impatient ass to find.

With that said I'm pretty sure you're talking about my criticism on endogenics because I've called them that a few times.

Obviously not everyone in a group is gonna be white and middle class even if the majority are, but as someone who used to be in endogenic spaces I noticed a few things

Grand majority of them are white Americans

Grand majority are from middle class backgrounds

Grand majority come from fundamentalist religious (Christian) backgrounds and have religious trauma in connection to it but they outright refuse to consider how that may impact their perspective and beliefs today.

Now as someone who is no longer in the community but still observes for critical reasons, things are genuinely not that much different today. Where do you think this whole weird approach to mental illness even comes from, my man? Christianity. Unironically it's from white Western fundie culture.

Fundies hate mentally ill people. In fundie circles you're taught either to approach mentally ill people like they're special and somehow blessed, or that they're fucking possessed by demons. This is an attitude that persists very strongly in Western fundie circles. They don't trust psychology, they think it's all a scam. If they think there's something demonic about being mentally ill, they will perform exorcisms and many people over the decades have died due to abuse during exorcisms and other "cleansing rituals."

The "positive" outlook of mental illness isn't much better. You're still denied treatment, and now you have the burden of being a weird Christ-like figure to your family and neighbours, essentially suffering for "the glory of God" because they think your psychotic audio hallucinations are actual angels.

Many endogenics leave environments where this ^ is the norm, and though they have enough critical thinking and self-awareness to recognise that religious brainwashing for what it is, they don't realise or care that they're falling into the same trap as before, except with liberal-friendly language.

They don't want to approach mental health symptoms as if they're mental health symptoms because they're taught that's scary, bad, that it makes them broken, that the trauma and illness "taints" their system. These are things you can easily find endogenics saying for why they refuse trauma labels. It's not because there's any logical reason to refuse those trauma labels, it's because something inside them is averse to it. Scared of it. Because that's what they were taught. That mental illness is scary and makes you broken.

And so you end up with thinking like this: (all yanked from sysmedsaresexist)

All this ^^^^ Is about spirituality. It's about faith. it's about ideology. Even the stuff that isn't explicitly about faith, is still about faith, because that's how they approach it. It's not about data, or what's healthier, or even what's probable, it's not even about having a good internal reason for yourself WHY you resist trauma labels. It's about what makes them feel the best. Because that's how fundie religious backgrounds teach you how to reason- with belief, and faith, not with grounded reasoning backed up by data.

Asides from that, there's also the very middle class white person thing of appropriating other cultures and bastardising them for your unhealthy anti-science belief system. A lot of the time when I vaguely make fun of white endogenics it's because of that.

#anti endo #endos dni #syscourse #endo cult #tbh dude if you see someone obsessed with anime and tulpas they are most likely white #but in general all of this [spreads arms wide to encompass the mess of endogenics]#is the internet nerd equivalent of your weird hippy aunt who denounces christianity #but has just replaced it with a load of misunderstood and fake bullshit about how rocks have magical properties #it's the same anti-intellectual psuedo-science navel-gazing shit that white people always do #like white americans have no real culture #and their only culture is terrifying and tells them to whip themselves everytime they have bad thoughts #so they just go around stealing culture from everyone else #same shit with tulpas etc #actally I take it back the bit about white ppl having no culture #becaue every white person has the option to look into their ancestry and discover the roots of their culture before christianity took ove #but they would rather appropriate from other cultures and refuse reasonable explanations for things #most of y'all have some kind of pagan root you could rediscover but instead you do....alll this...

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