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#eren analysis
clfixationstation · 4 months
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The dynamic is NOT Eren gets angry, Armin soothes him. It's Eren gets angry and Armin does damage control for him. Eren slips into despair and Armin gives him hope. Armin gets tangled in his own anxieties and hopelessness and Eren comforts him. Eren encourages him, puts his faith in him, gives Armin the confidence to flourish.
It goes both ways. They have such understanding of each other, such kindness and respect the reserve only for each other (& Mikasa of course).
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I dont know how many times I have to say this but the biggest misinterpretation of Eren's character is that he is a fascist/racist/xenophobe.
YES HE IS A GENOCIDAL AND HIS ACTS ARE UNFORGIVEN , but NONE of his actions were based on a moral belief of "the people of paradise are superior to the rest of the world, all the rest of the cultures/nations/races have to be eliminated because they are inferior".
He is a 19-year-old boy who grew up all his life in an environment of fear, violence, extreme need and total lack of freedom. He is a character deeply marked by trauma. He always was a violent and impulsive boy with radical beliefs thinking that the world is "us" and "our enemies" and that life is kill or be killed.
But he is NOT a person who committed genocide based on discriminatory beliefs. He did it because in his way of understanding the world the only way to be free was to live in a world without other humans who threaten to take away his freedom. In Eren's eyes all the people outside of paradise are enemies, people who were guilty that he and the people he loved grew up locked up in a tiny piece of the world without even knowing why or how, and people who want him and anyone else from paradise to be dead. He is the definition of "a monster created by hate."
If you watched/read Shingeki no Kyojin and your interpretation of Eren is "anime hitler lol" then your levels of analysis and reflective thinking are at rock bottom.
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salvatoreren · 2 years
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im trying to make an analysis of eren but cant bcus reading it, it doesnt make sense and also the sentences are too repetitive
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happybird16 · 6 months
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I'm going to make myself cry typing this but here we go..
I think one of the points of Attack on Titan is that humanity is forgetful. Doomed to forget, actually.
Our main cast are heroes, not just the surviving ones. Levi deserves to have statues built of him. The surviving members of the 104th even went on to become politicians, traveling the world to help change things for the better. I have no doubt that they had buildings named after them, streets and parks named after them. There were probably history books specifically dedicated to each and every one of them.
But humans are forgetful.
There were no photos of Eren. He probably only continued to exist in history books, where he was demonized and vilified for decimating the world. By the time their fingers started to get all wrinkly from age, Mikasa and Armin probably forgot what Eren looked like. What he sounded like.
Time passes and humans forget. Statues crumble, buildings rot and fall apart. People forget figures that used to be significant. History books are changed. Even atrocities eventually become dulled in humanities collective memory. Bombs turn everything to dust. Humans are doomed to forget and repeat their mistakes again and again and again.. and I think that's the point.
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I’ve been thinking lately about how much the ‘curse of Ymir’ really does affect the psyche of each of the nine shifters and how it impacts the ending of the story.
Up until the end of Season 3/Chapter 87-88, the reader and the viewer have no idea that the shifters have a limited amount of time to live. They seem to possess this god-like power and they can rejuvenate and survive almost any injury. They seem unstoppable.
This is what motivates Erwin to create a plan to take one of the nine shifter powers with the serum- having another Titan in your arsenal would make a difference in winning the war.
But what the Paradisians don’t know is how holding the power of the Nine just perpetuates a cycle of violence and cruelty. It’s a curse as much as it is a power. No matter how brilliant or grand your scope is for what you can do with this near limitless power, you have to contend with the fact that you will only have thirteen years to do it.
This revelation to me is the what colors the entire last arc of the story leading into and after the time skip.
For Zeke, it amps up the level of desperation he has for accomplishing the euthanization plan- relying on Eren was still a variable that was largely unpredictable, and he trusted him more than he probably would have if he weren’t running out of time.
Going back further in the story, it retroactively explains why Ymir (of the cadet corps) would go back with Reiner and Bertholdt at all- a seemingly nonsensical choice when it seems she has something to live for in her relationship with Krista/Historia. But Ymir knows she has little time left. She has no future. So she chooses to surrender.
For Annie, it shows her desperation to get back to her father, a man who showed her very little affection, and yet if she could just make it back maybe she could live at least a year or two with him and make at least one happy memory with the man who raised her to kill.
Armin, I honestly feel the most for, because what he and everyone else thought of as his salvation, was actually just saddling him with a curse. And heaps of responsibility to try and be grateful for it. He went from a character with a singular and wholesome conviction, to someone wracked with guilt and forced to solve the world’s problems with limited time and resources.
In Reiner’s case, I actually think the fact that he knows he is going to die is the only thing actually keeping him alive in the tail end of the story. He wants so badly to face retribution for his deeds, and he can only find the strength to keep towing the line because he knows his violent demise is guaranteed.
Characters like Pieck and Bertholdt seem to accept their lot in life- but deal with this internally and develop their own sense of morals despite it- albeit in different ways and in Pieck’s case with a shade of pessimism. Falco and Marcel stand out as a characters who see the farce for what it is- but still want to subject themselves to it in order to prevent someone they love from suffering through it in their place.
Eren, though, it’s easy to see how discovering he has already lived more of his life in powerless ignorance than what he has left is what ultimately causes the collapse in his character. Combine that with the way that he sees ‘future memories’ and doesn’t see any future beyond his own, and suddenly you have a naturally impulsive and violent person living in the most fatalistic reality ever. It makes perfect sense that his fall from grace is near immediate and precipitous.
What difference does all that power make if all it means is that you become a tool for destruction with no future? That you will be forced to curse someone else so that this cruel power will continue to exist? That is the true legacy of Ymir and the Eldian Empire- you can have near limitless power, but you will never have true control over your own life.
And it makes for such interesting discussions and questions about power and mortality and agency- and all the seemingly ‘correct’ and ‘incorrect’ ways to respond to their dilemma.
Anyway, it is always ‘thinking about the moral quandary of the titan shifters’ hours around here…
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elmundodeflor · 1 year
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Attack On Titan is a Work of Love
Something I'm always in awe of, is how love is depicted in Attack On Titan. Mostly, because it feels realistic and relatable. Love isn't always the big, over-the-top Romeo and Juliet type.
Love is Eren wrapping a scarf around Mikasa.
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Armin regularly going to see Annie.
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Love is Levi and Hanji knowing each other so well, they’re able to communicate without the need for words.
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Historia trusting Ymir so much, that she was the first one she revealed her real name to.
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Love isn’t always flowers and big confessions like the ones we see in movies or media. Daily, human love lays in the detail. It’s in consistency, in those little day-to-day gestures a person can have with another. it's in waiting for your partner with a nice meal at home, in sharing a moment of comfort, in understanding eachother by just looking into one another's eyes. it's in protecting and caring and nurturing and motivating.
And it’s why love in Attack On Titan will always feel real. Palpable. Beautifully subtle.
To me, it will always be grounbreaking how, in a world so full of hatred, Isayama managed to create so many unbreakable bonds of the most imperfectly pure love, and how he was able to explore love in all of its different phases and colors.
Love between brothers/family:
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Love between friends:
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Idolatry (the tpye of love that makes you go blind)
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Unrequited love:
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Grief (the loss of someone you loved):
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New-found love:
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It will always be close to my heart, how Attack On Titan shows love at every corner, in every frame: in words of hope, in helping somebody who struggles, in the will to protect somebody at the highest of costs, in the joking and teasing in affectionate ways. It’s all there, in the small, in what the eye doesn’t always see. It’s always been.
So, even when Attack On Titan can be seen as a work of war and life and death and how the evil parts of the human world work, to me, it will forever be a work I remember for being overflowed with love, too.
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diariodeunrincondemi · 6 months
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Although everyone is talking about Armin and Eren's dialogue (which was amazing), for me the heartbreaking moment was that of the civilian refugees being cornered between the cliff and the advancing titans and the man lifting the baby to pass it back, in a desperate gesture to save him.
A father assuming, in the midst of terror, that he was going to die, but wanting to save his son, because it was better for his son to be an orphan and have a chance to live than to die in that terror.
And that moment is heartbreaking because it is full of realism. Because we still see it today on live broadcasts in the news: adults doing everything they can to protect and save their children in the midst of terror, hoping that it will end and they can live. Because there is nothing more horrible than the death of a person who could not experience life.
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yunjitsu · 6 months
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Was she buried under the tree alongside the love of her life? Please. 😭 💔
I remember this scene being shown in the manga, but she was amongst the white roses. Glad they decided to change it like that. 💔
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sonofthesaiyans · 22 days
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Hats off to Jean Kirstein, the Scouts' unlikeliest hero.
Honor dictates that I say a few words to honor the birthday of one of the 104th's strongest and most naturally gifted soldiers.
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Jean Kirstein is a character who, at one point, I would have said had one of the most impressive arcs of any individual character in Attack on Titan. Once content to keep himself to the sidelines in service of the royal government, Jean has really come a long way from when we first met him in the early days of season one.
Jean has always been abrasive and cynical, holding on to no fantasies about the miserable world he and his friends have long been trapped in. But in spite of all he's gone through, he's shown a keen sense of judgement and natural leadership that has allowed him to survive again and again in a situation he at one point would have been all to happy to look the other way, and never turn back. In a world where insanity dominates between the Titans and humanity, Jean always seems to know what to do even when he's at an utter loss of what the outcome could be, and he's so often been a voice of reason when faced with the panic of his comrades or the zeal of his friendly rival turned mortal enemy, Eren.
His old pal Marco recognized this potential in Jean, and it seems Marco's words have resonated strongly with Jean long after his own demise. Understanding what was at stake, he took a hard look at what he signed himself on to and charged at it head on. Through and through, he's proven a dependable ally to those serving by his side and ultimately, under his own command. One of Jean's greatest assets, and perhaps in his own mind his greatest curse, is his nobility. Whatever his faults and failings, Jean has always sided with the greater good, and is one of the most incorruptible characters on Paradis. He's been pushed to his limits every bit as much as the rest of his circle......And through it all still stands tall.
By no means flawless, and I actually have some far stronger opinions about Jean in spite of the fact that I rarely ever comment on him around here.......And that's a discussion for another day.
For tonight though, gotta acknowledge the impressive track record of a guy who probably never should have been a Scout in the first place.......And somehow has lived to speak of the experience after going through Hell and back time and time again.
Seriously, Jean Kirstein would have been a worthy contender to become Commander of the Scout Regiment, or second-in-command under Hange and/or Levi. Whatever the case, he's certainly been an asset to the greater cause of freedom, and perhaps understood the meaning of what that was far better than Eren himself EVER did.
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Keep moving forward as you always have, Commander Jean.
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Happy Birthday to a man worthy of wearing the Wings of Freedom.
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Oh, and one last thing; If you really do truly love Jean, then for the love of all that is good and just.........
Do NOT even think about it with the lame as hell Horseface jokes. I think the fact that I acknowledged not just Jeanmarco, but also "Jeankasa" up here is being pretty generous as it is. So please, don't push it, alright?
Besides, I can name five other characters who look more like horses than him.....
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clfixationstation · 3 months
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The only thing I dislike about Eren's death is that he's always felt trapped, and in the end his only freedom was death. Like, that's depressing as hell for any person that could feel similarly...
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4everinyour-roaa · 4 days
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mikasa and eren are both contrasting characters,
eren deals with a lot of insecurities, mikasa carries a lot of pride.
eren is constantly thinking about the future (quite literally living in it considering titan memories due to the founding and attack), while mikasa constantly thinks about the past.
eren is angry and impulsive, mikasa is calm and collected with a clear idea of what she wants to do.
eren allowed people to enter his heart including reiner and annie which explains his sadness finding out about their betrayal, while mikasa only concerns herself with the people that she loves and has no room in her heart to care about more after her trauma.
even in the way they love each other, all mikasa wants is to be by eren's side even if it means risking her life, while all eren wants is for her to be safe even if it means their separation.
and interestingly enough, their character development is basically becoming who the other used to be, in s4 mikasa starts to be more like eren from s1, and s4 eren is more like mikasa in s1
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gotta love this scene
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when Armin's self-doubt collapsing is reflected in the way the titan skeleton cracks and falls behind him
and, if you wanna get really nerdy with me, it also reflects other things that we think we know but are proven wrong, just as Eren proves that the titans aren't what we may think they are
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marosina · 3 months
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Eren + Forms of Love
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EreMika: Like waking up from a nap, realizing you’ve been allowed to snooze half the day away. The wordless understanding and support of family. A love often taken for granted in the moment, but deeply appreciated in retrospect. A lack of urgency from the sureness of fate that intertwines souls beyond mortality. Comfort.
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EreMin: Like being ripped awake from a nightmare so you no longer have to suffer. The confused, and desperate clinging to someone you trust for comfort and direction. A love necessary for survival. For growth. A repeated promise, firm and unwavering, that not even hellfire can cut through. Passion.
Both are needed.
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happybird16 · 1 year
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I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but can we talk about Eren's Founding Titan? Specially it's eyes
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They're murky and grey-ish, as if he's blind. His usual vibrant green has been dimmed with a milky film. There's so much symbolism in this, in Eren being unseeing, his vision clouded.
He's not present in the moment, can't bare to witness the destruction he's unleashing upon the world. The blood and gore, the unimaginable amount of death beneath his feet. Despite this being his intention, an inevitable immutable future in his eyes, he can't, won't watch.
Armin's colossal form doesn't have ears, so he doesn't have to hear the screams his destruction causes. In this vein, Eren's Founder is blind, purposefully entrapping himself within his own mind. His mind has even reverted to a childlike state in order to cope. Eren talks about freedom, but, surrounded by the colossal titans, he never truly leaves the walls. He just brings them with him.
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cosmicjoke · 3 months
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Alright, I just need to make this point, because these moronic Yeagerists really are beyond the pale of stupidity.
The entire POINT of "Attack on Titan" is demonstrated through Eren's gain of power.
Eren only gains the power to destroy the world BECAUSE of Marley's persecution of the Eldians. Because Grisha lost his sister to their violence, he then became radicalized, which in turn lead to him being "sent to heaven", meaning sent to Paradis Island, where he met Carla and they had Eren together. Marley's continued persecution and oppression of the Eldians lead to them sending the Warrior's to the island in an attempt to steal back the Founding Titan's power, which directly lead to Grisha attacking the Reiss family and taking that power for himself, and then GIVING IT to Eren, which, eventually, lead to Eren nearly destroying the whole world.
The entire point of this is to demonstrate how things like war and oppression, hatred and prejudice lead to nothing but disaster and devastation. Eren himself says, at the end, that he was "an idiot" who gained too much power. He's flatly saying that he's someone who never should have been given the power he had. Something we see repeatedly stated early on in the story by Reiner, when he says over and over that Eren is the last person who should have the power of the coordinate. But the cause of Eren gaining that power is Marley's own persecution and prejudice and war mongering. They sealed their own fate by doing what they did. They created the very scenario in which a person like Eren, a violent, childish, willful and selfish idiot got his hands on the power to destroy them and everything else. If Marley had never persecuted the Eldian's, Eren never would have gotten his hands on that power, and the Rumbling never would have happened. That's the POINT. The point is that war and persecution and prejudice lead to people like Eren coming into power, which then leads to holocaust levels of destruction. It's a cautionary tale about why we SHOULDN'T persecute others, why we SHOULDN'T wage war, why we SHOULDN'T be prejudiced.
This person @passionfruitkasa, who regurgitated their stupidity all over my original post about Eren and his true intentions in enacting the Rumbling, is too idiotically dumb to see that, just like all delusional Yeagerists. They think AoT a story about fighting for freedom and gee and wow, isn't that just so cool and neat. They think it's a story about the righteousness of fighting back and killing our oppressors. Fucking no. It's a story about the tragedy of people ever being put into a position of having to do those things in the first place, and how it only ever leads to MORE tragedy. Christ.
I don't get how people can over and over again miss the entire fucking point of this story, but they do. It just blows my mind, man.
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Armin’s character and what he represents about bravery within the story means so much to me.
I feel like so often in shonen and general action story media traits like ‘bravery’ and ‘courage’ are considered synonymous with strength or risk-taking- and that’s certainly accurate in a lot of cases. But just like in so many other ways, AOT subverts or critically examines this trope within its characters- particularly in the main trio of the cast.
It’s so easy to reduce Armin to his easiest defined trope- the smart one- and while that’s definitely true and you could write a million meta essays on his intelligence, strategic thinking, etc, I think we don’t talk enough about the ways Armin’s character begs the audience to reexamine what it means to have strength and bravery.
Armin’s strength is not in the physical realm (although it’s worth dedicating another post entirely to the fact that Armin is certainly not that weak either- simply the weakest of an already exceptional group) and his strength is not solely his mind either. But also his determination, conviction, and the way he is willing to sacrifice himself to save others with hardly a second thought- all while not being as rash as Eren and Mikasa can be.
In a recent rewatch of the Trost Arc, there were so many moments that stood out to me that I had previously either taken for granted or not noticed the significance of. In that arc alone, after Eren’s “death” -
He follows Mikasa without hesitation to rescue her when she runs out of gas
Offers Mikasa his gas canisters and blades knowing he won’t survive without them
Defends Eren to the Garrison (this is obviously a pretty big moment that isn’t usually overlooked, of course)
Rushes off from the decoy squad and runs the ENTIRE length of the Trost district wall when he sees the red smoke flair- just to be there to help Mikasa and Eren
Stays by Eren’s titan form on foot in a titan infested area right before he places the boulder
And there’s probably some more I missed.
Armin at this point in the story has no false confidence about his ability to survive- in fact he probably has an abysmal lack of confidence that he can’t affect much, but he does it anyway.
(Obviously, this self-sacrificial tendency reaches a head and ultimately culminates in the sacrifice of his life in the mission to retake Shiganshina…)
All of this to say, what Armin represents about bravery and courage is so important to me because he dedicates his life with the purest of intentions- he is not scared of death in such a noble way and he brings it up again and again. He would die for the cause- nearly does.
Which I think creates an interesting parallel between him and Eren in the sense that Eren is frequently referred to as a “suicidal maniac”- clearly meant to refer to the reckless way he rushes into danger. Whereas Armin’s instinct towards self-sacrifice is never viewed this way, because it’s not a glaring flaw in the same way that Eren’s behavior is.
Another way the story examines this is through his interactions with Annie- who is opposite in that she is fiercely dedicated to her own survival at any cost. This is brought up in their interaction during the ODM gear inspection when she asks him if he would die if someone ordered him to and he easily answered that he would. Armin’s ability to understand this difference between himself and Annie without judging her for it is also unique to him.
Because Armin doesn’t expect anyone else to give their life or view others as cowards for not rushing into danger- because he sees the value in every life. He just feels the cost of his own life would be worth it to preserve someone else’s. It’s this love for humanity and unwavering optimism at the core of his character that gives him so much conviction.
And like so many others have pointed out, this is what saves him (and, to an extent, later the world) in the end when it comes to Levi’s choice to revive him. Erwin was successful because he was able to set aside his humanity and sent countless soldiers to their deaths to gain victory. Armin, more than anyone else in the story, was able to plan and make a difference in such a way that always assumed he would either ask others to take an equal risk or put himself at more risk to reach the goal. And he wasn’t driven by anger, hatred, or rage to do it.
Clearly, there’s a lot that can be said about the way Armin shows strength and bravery in dire situations without being, stereotypically, the strongest character- or even the die-hard risk taking typical protagonist that Eren represents for most of the story.
But I think ultimately the story is trying to show us that Armin’s version is the version that is within reach for everyone- and that will make the biggest difference in not just winning a battle but in making a better world. And it’s so important to me that AOT- despite being such an inherently violent story- took the time to present that message as emphatically as it did.
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