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nicojoe · 2 years

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FIRST SET PICS FROM TOG2

SPOILER (kinda) behind the cut:

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#the old guard #the old guard 2 #force multiplied #set pics #charlize theron #spoiler #(-ish)#only for her hair/clothes tbh

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captain-grammar · 2 years

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Things To Speculate From A Singular BTS/Paparazzi Photo:

First of all, who is who!? Judging from Veronica's script "leak", I'm going with the working theory that...

2) The second film is set directly after (or at least pretty soon after) we see Booker find Quynh in his flat in Paris at the end of the first film, judging by both what we see Matthias and Veronica wearing in this shot and given as Booker is bound with a bag over his head...

3) UMA is playing a BADDIE and we might get some A+ fight scenes between her and Charlize!

4) Booker is still fighting! Bound, blinded, possibly drugged ("wasted" from the script leads me to believe he's been knocked out by something) but he's clearly struggling against his captors

5) If fucking figures that the first time we see Matthias on set, he's got a freaking BAG over his head!!

#the old guard #tog #2o2g #force multiplied #veronica ngo #uma thurman #matthias schoenaerts #bts #in which i speculate wildly and innaccurately

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linaxart · 2 years

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Rescue

TOG comics redraws 4/?

[ID: A digital drawing of a comic panel featuring Nile, Joe, Booker, Nicky and Andy from the The Old Guard (2020). They’re all sitting on the back of a moving boat, looking dishevelled and messy. End ID.]

#togredraw #tog2 #force multiplied #tog #the old guard #immortal family #tog comics #tog 2 spoilers #the old guard 2 #tog art #these are so satisfactory at the end but i swear they HURT in the process #tagmonthlytheme #digital art #fanart #sketchbook

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my-fool · 8 months

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The ending to the old guard 2 comic was just so mid. Complaining under the cut

It's revealed that in the distant past (probably upwards of thousands of years ago) Andy was a slaveowner. This obviously pissed Nile right off. I wish Nile was allowed to have a more emotional reaction, but she basically says either you're with us or you're part of the problem. And then because Andy is too depressed to stand, Nile and the rest all leave her. That's where Noriko and her henchmen find her later.

For one thing, owning slaves is terrible. But it was literally pre-civilisation as we know it. Six thousand years ago. A crime is a crime, but Andromache states that there was no alternative to POWs captured during raids apart from mass-execution, and to be honest, I kind of agree.

For another, many of them likely bear similar crimes. Crusaders executed unarmed prisoners they couldn't afford to feed, both muslims and christians committed pogroms, arab muslims engaged in slave trade in north africa far before europeans did... I'm not saying yusuf or nicolo did any of these, but when you live a thousand years, it would also be weird to *never* have any hand in anything like that at all. Even in the modern day it's almost impossible not to financially support modern slavery through buying cheap clothes. It's a dirty world.

I wish Andy had done something in the present to alienate her team. Like, refused to rescue Booker because the time limit wasn't up, even though he was being tortured. Or to go after Noriko herself even though the others don't trust her an inch. Andromache was very depressed and apathetic in this comic, but she's a very proactive character and I think if the loneliness started to eat at her she's more likely to be self destructive than withdrawn.

Noriko's motivations make no sense. She was killed over and over by the impassive sea, so she's decided she needs to punish humanity. Humanity had no role in your deaths??

Maybe it would have been too similar to the first book's villain, but said something like "We immortals cannot die from illness or old age. Therefore, we are destined for thousands of violent deaths. We are demons put on this earth to wage eternal war. If we want peace, we need to remove ourselves."

And then the thematic discussion would be: can a soldier be a force for good, or is any form of violence immoral? They've killed a lot of people for one "justified" cause or another. And they've been wrong before.

It would also make sense for Noriko -- she was an assassin, and now that shes "reformed", all she's really done is swap one victim for another.

But really, the pacing scuppered the book. Volumes of comics are always around 5 issues, and the author wasted about 3 full issues on vague set-up and hinting at Noriko as a major threat when really she's just anti-Andy, so the idea that she can end all 5 of them on her own is a bit silley.

#the old guard #logged #force multiplied

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peri-helia · 2 years

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Booker! Matthias

#the old guard #matthias schoenaerts #2 old 2 guard #he was on his Instagram stories so I guess this is tog2 booker #tog 2 #force multiplied #sebastien le livre

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catofadifferentcolor · 8 months

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The Old Guard: Force Multiplied

It's always easier to just ignore your sins than to confront them.

I stumbled quite by accident on The Old Guard two weeks ago, as part of a crossover with another fandom. At that point I’d only heard of the comic as the inspiration for a movie that came out on Netflix shortly after I got rid of my account, but I was intrigued enough that I went looking for more.

Contrary to my usual order of things, I ended up reading a lot of the fanfic first - and then went looking for the movie. Unfortunately, it was only on available on Netflix - and such was my intrigue that after three days of wrestling with myself I reopened my account just to watch the movie.

I was able to get my hands on the first two installments of the graphic novel this weekend and read Opening Fire yesterday - and was largely impressed. Force Multiplied leaves me with much different feelings, mainly because it doesn't make sense.

Don't get me wrong. I understand where Noriko is coming from. I get that she feels betrayed for not being rescued and that anyone is bound to be a bit mad after endlessly drowning for the last five hundred years. What I don't get is how one goes from all of that to and so the whole of humanity has to suffer. Of which there are certainly easier and more thorough ways to go about it than human trafficking and organized crime - a war, for instance. That she'd want to get back at Andy - yes, sure. That all of humanity has to pay for it - not so much.

Honestly, it kind of makes me glad they altered her character to Quynh for the movie, because at least it gives her a reasonable expectation of being rescued and therefore a better reason to feel betrayed.

Leaving Andy at the end doesn't make sense either - unless it was a ploy to figure out what Noriko was up to. Setting aside all issues of judging the past by present standards and writing off those same issues as just the way it was then, one must acknowledge character growth. Whatever Andy might have once done, whatever she might once have believed, she is currently trying to do good by helping people. Is she perfect? No. Should she be forgiven for doing things she knew to be wrong? No. But abandoning her for not always being a beacon of modern morals seems... wrong. Especially when it's the youngest making that call.

Not everyone starts on the right side of history. If we cannot grow as people - if we cannot acknowledge we have done wrong and work to better ourselves - if we are not allowed to change and have our change acknowledged - than why bother changing at all? Just because most redemption arcs end with the redeemed dying doesn't mean we should ignore that the redemption happened. The path is hard and the past unforgivable... but if someone tries to improve, you have to let them.

I'm not sure what I'm going for here other than that the narrative seems confused. Which I suppose is understandable when you're trying to boil down deep issues of philosophy and ethics into a hundred page graphic novel. Maybe I need to do a couple rereads to find some nuance I'm missing... but mostly I'm just confused.

...and a little apprehensive about TOG2. The first movie followed the first installment fairly closely. If the second follows the same pattern, well, I hope the additional screen time can flush out the narrative that really needs about six issues of backstory and another six of context to make better sense.

Beyond that, there's much I still want to know about these characters and all the ways they touched history and slow, creeping feeling of certainty that I'll never get it. Maybe Tales Through Time will have some of the character-driven backstories I'm hoping for, but we'll have to wait and see.

A regretful three out of five, mostly just for the WTF I'm left feeling.

#aadarshinah reads #the old guard #tog #the old guard comics #the old guard force multiplied #force multiplied #comic books #graphic novel #comic book review #graphic novel review #review

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youssefguedira · 2 years

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wait what car chase scene?

the one from the opening of force multiplied! i don't know if it'll go exactly as it does in that but there's a stunt driver added as a body double for luca marinelli (according to imdb) so it seems likely they'll include it

#i don't follow all of the production news very closely but i did open twitter in time to see that this morning #neon answers #anonymous #2 old 2 guard #force multiplied #(as in the comic)#in the comics it's andy driving i believe (which would be awesome) but since mortal it mightve changed #alternatively they might have him driving the van with joe but i think they're just hanging around. would have to reread

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scimitar-and-longsword · 2 years

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My goodness, there’s been so many TOG updates in the form of set photos and cast social media posts! I may just have to revive this tumblr to save my mostly star wars centric twitter followers from drowning in Veronica spam <3

#It would be everyone spam #but she's the only one who posts semi regularly #Matthias SHOULD be on there too #but the man just not give the people what they want lol #The Old Guard #Lolo rambles #The Old Guard 2 #Force Multiplied #what are we even calling the sequel???#y'all I've been so out of the loop on the TOG fandom lol #I need someone to catch me up!

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fromthestacks · 2 years

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The Old Guard: book two, Force Multiplied by Greg Rucka, Leandro Fernandez, Daniela Miwa, Jodi Wynne

#library #books #graphic novels #the old guard #force multiplied #greg rucka #leandro fernandez #daniela miwa #jodi wynne

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etanesnil · 2 years

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:DDDDDDDDDDDD

#the old guard #force multiplied #i am very excited. omg.

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fandomfanservice · 5 months

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Anyone else on the planet or this timeline wondering what or who they need to sell, to get more old guard comic stories or the freaking movie sequel?

I can appreciate Booker was drunk longer, Quynh/Noriko was trapped longer, Joe and Nicky have loved longer and Andromache has lived longer but for this mere mortal this wait is something else.