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#get that shit outta here. its about internal struggle. regardless of what we want to say about the source of it all
soldier-poet-king · 7 months
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Stop over spiritualizing everything as a "battle" against the "forces of evil" or I am going to beat you with my fists, and unlike the nebulous authority and power you attribute to demons, I can assure you my fists are very present and actively intent on stopping this rhetoric
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low-budget-korra · 4 years
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The first text I made was over 2,000 words so I’ll try to summarize it.
First I'm going to talk about what I think is Bury Your Gays and poor writing of minorities.
For me, Bury your gays is when certain productions kill the lgbt character for the sake of shock value, often in the most stupid ways possible. A famous example of this was what happened to Lexa in the 100. When it feels like the character only died because he is gay.
And for me, poor writing for minorities (poc, lgbt, people with disabilities ...) can be characterized as:
1. Productions that want to portray the image of progressives and put a poc or lgbt character (which are the most common cases) without personality, unimportant, without development ... Character that are just there for decoration
2. When they even create an interesting character but soon create a reason to kill him to shock the audience. Kill them because they are poc.
And for me having a poc or lgbt character (since these are the boxes where I identify with) interesting, important ... this is the word: Important! whether it is important directly in the plot as a protagonist who carries the story or a supporting role with a good role on the story and a good development, it is much more significant than a character forced only for certain productions not to be accused of racism, sexism or lgbtphobia.
Of course, each case is different. I will now comment briefly on Atomic Blonde, The Last of Us part II and The Legend of Korra.
In Atomic Blonde we have the death of Delphine, a lgbt character who has generated some discussions about being a "bury your gays". I don't particularly agree because I believe that if she were a man or straight, she would die anyway. Since the protagonist's other love interest had died in the beginning and he was a heterosexual white man, and because the character of Delphine, despite being a spy, did not belong in that work or life style . Something even commented by herself. She was an inexperienced agent in the worst possible scenario to be one . But i now understand and why some people still think It was bury your gays.
In The Last of Us part II I saw many people complaining about the death of Jesse, Yara and how Lev was just a supporting character. The Last of Us part II .... a game that is not afraid to kill loved characters without any ceremony simply because in that world, one mistake can cost your life. Regardless of gender, sexuality, age, skin color ...
Jesse and Yara played Asian American characters and died. Mel, Joel, Owen ... were Caucasian, cishet characters who died too. None of them die because they are asian american or caucasian, they die cuz that world is fucking ruthless.
And about Lev not being important just because he is an supporting character... First that he is for Abby what Dina is for Ellie, both of them are extremely important support for the protagonists and Interesting characters with their own internal struggles and development. I think it is very unfair to throw this away with the argument like: "ah, but he is not the protagonist so it is not important"
And still about The Last of Us part II we are talking about a game and for those who do not know the gamer community is toxic, full of sexism, racism, lgbtphobia ... And the game developers had the balls for not only make two protagonists women outside the steryotype of femme fatalle or defenseless love interest(still very present in games) and one of them a lesbian, but also introducing an important trans character in a mainstream high-budget game.
People, until recently the only image we had of women in games was that of a busty model running around, made purely to please male players, good and important black, asian and lgbt characters was really rare or just didnt exist at all.
And today we have characters like Ellie, Lev, Kassandra (AC Odyssey), Jill Valentine and Claire Redfield who were reimagined more humanely in the remakes of Resident Evil, Lara Croft herself in the 2013 Tomb Raider remake, Max and Chloe(Life is Strange), Lee and Clementine(TWD from telltale), Marcus (Detroit Become Humam ), Connor (AC3) ... I know, there is still a long way to go until we have achieved the equality and representativeness that we want in the world of games but we are advancing. They may be a baby step but they still are steps forward. We should continue to support this initiatives and demand better representation.
Now about The Legend of Korra ... Reading the comments in the post i get the feeling that people were much more angry with Bryke for being cishet than with questions related to the narrative.
It bothers me the fact that it seems that whoever made the posts (originally from twitter) did not watch avatar or simply watched without paying attention. It was NEVER about Korra needed suffering but about finding Meaning in suffering. And yes, they are two different things.
When in the end Korra is talking to Tenzin, about understand the why she had to go through all that , for them be abble to be more compassionate of others. That shit is real. When you have a panic attack , for exemple, you become more abble to help someone who also suffers from that. Or when some people lose someone for a disease or acident and choose to become a doctor to help others, wanting no other person had to go through that pain... In this case, the person didnt have to lose someone to be a doctor but maybe after saw all the fight that the doctors put in to save someone and the pain of losing someone may have made the person spend the rest of his life saving people. Get It?
And in Avatar, both TLA and TLOK, people have suffer.
Aang: Cast aside by his friends when people discover he was the Avatar. Runaway and lose all of his people. Had to see the devastation for himself and find the bones of his friend and possible father figure. Almost die a few times. For many years had the weight of been the last of his people. And in a part of the journey, lost Appa.
Sokka and Katara: Lost their mother. Their dad leave to fight and possible die in the war. Sokka was only a teen when he was the man responsable for his tribe. Katara had the weight of being the only waterbender of her tribe and be the only one that could calm Aang once he was in Avatar State.
Toph: as a blind kid, her parents think of her as someone unable to do anything. Had to choose between save Appa or save the others in some point of their journey
Zuko: When i start with him?
Azula: oh Boy...
Iroh: Lose is only son. Had to see his brother burn Zuko's face. And Zuko betrayed him, kind of, in the end of book2.
Asami: Her mom was murdered , maybe even in front of her. Her dad was a evil genius. She probably suffered with Korra in those 3 years.
Mako and Bolin: They grow up as orphans on the streets...
I could go on and on, dude, even the cabbage man had suffer from losing his cabbages over and over.
But all of the sudden, Korra now had to have plot armor or else Bryke is wrong and are terrible people.
Everybody loves to talk about how perfect Zuko's arc and development is. Zuko, who was one of the characters who most have suffered in the show. But for him all was necessary, had meaning, perfect storytelling and structure but with Korra.... "She cant suffer cuz she is brown"
And its not like Bryke was making something up outta nowhere just to torture the character. All she face it was a consequence direct or indirect of her actions and actions of other people.
Amon and the Equalists? Aang didnt kill Yakone nor put him in prison for life, just took his bending. Yakone was a terrible father, and one of the reason Amon hate bending (even himself been a waterbender) so much to the point of him do what he did. The same to Tarrlok. He turn his sons into monsters. And the triads only help them, because they use their bending to rob the non benders.
Vaatu? Look up The Beginning epsodes because this one is more complex.
Unalaq? Look, the worst villain of Avatar. But he took advantage of things that happen as consequences of the ending of book1
Zaheer? Direct consequence of that happen in the finale of book 2.
Kuvira? Direct consequence of things that happen in book 3
Again, i could go on and on and go deeper on all that. But this is already getting to big.
But what pissed me off most is ... Look im years in this fandom. As a Brazilian i saw and read stuff from the fandom here in my country and the fandom here in Tumblr. And in those years i read so much about how Korra journey help people overcome their struggles with ptsd, anxiety, depression...myself included. How much Korra was important to lesbians and bissexuals girls, especially girls of color.
And them we have those few people throw shit on all this and "cancel" you for not agree with them...
The Legend of Korra ended 2014, 6 years ago and still is so loved, so important to so many people, for the most diverse reasons.
For a cishet, Bryke did a amazing job creating this amazingly beautiful universe. With the most diverse inspirations, coming from places that are forgotten on western media. But i guess its easier criticize, and cancel them and the show than do what they did.
I know that sometimes we just wanted a scape from our difficult reality but seriously, if you Just want a movie/tv show/book...100% happy, rainbow and sunshine with no suffering at all, stick with the fanfics because even romcons sometimes have their among of "i you make you cry and suffer" kind of shit.
Suffer is present in our life and what a lot of movies/tv shows/games/books...try to do is bring our struggles and our suffering into them. Why? Its easier have simpathy for characters who look like us, characters who had been through the same stuff as us.
Is so difficult talk those things in another language. I always feel like i didnt express myself right. And im really sorry if i offended anyone, it wasnt my intention.
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ironspiidey · 5 years
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Superheros get Bullied too Chapter 2!
Chapter 1 
Chapter 2: Harley Stark & the Bully
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Oh don’t worry Mr. Thompson is never going to make that mistake ever again once we’re through with him.”
Peter and Harley whip their head around to see Tony Stark walking towards them. “Sweater. Now” Harley mumbled under his breath and stepped in front of Peter meeting the older man
Peter nodded and slipped the hoodie over his head
“Hey Mr. Stark” both boys said nervously, looking at each other and then at the man in question.
“Hello boys.” ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “What are…uh you doing here Mr. Stark?” Peter stammered and looked back to his locker trying to remember which books he may need because from the unimpressed look on the older man’s face it was clear they would not be coming back after lunch.
“Yeah! I thought you wanted me to grab Peter and his school stuff then wait out front for you or Happy?” Harley asked curiously, attempting to hide his nerves and praying that Tony didn’t hear the last bit of his and Peter’s conversation.
Mr. Stark smirked at how nervous they were and clasped a hand on Harley’s shoulder. “Relax. I’m not upset, yet. I needed to make sure Mr. Thompson didn’t try to cause any more trouble today. “
“Oh trust me, he wouldn’t have gotten away with it…”
Tony gave Harley a stern look but Peter piped up before he could form a response “Yes! Because we would have alerted a teacher and called you of course to—Mr. Stark” Peter said, his rate of speech going a mile a minute which made the older man smile softly despite himself. Peter was just too cute when he was anxious.
“Ye—yeah exactly. “ Harley tried to give a convincing smile in his uncle’s direction
“Bullshit, I know you both too well to know that would be the last thing you’d do.”
Peter grabbed his AP books and shut his locker “I would have called you regardless.” He mumbled looking at his backpack as he struggled with the zipper, long since worn but Peter hated to get rid of it. Uncle ben gave him this bag the year he died.
“Oh I don’t doubt that Petey. However I do doubt that Harley would simply let it go without a fight. We really should replace this.” Tony let go of Harley and leaned forward helping Peter with the zipper.
“I don’t wanna get rid of it.”
“Sweetie it’s about ready to fall apart.” Tony said softly, temporarily forgetting where they were.
“It’s important to me and I want to keep it.”
“Um guys, hate to break up this moment but uh people are staring.” Harley says nervously.
Peter coughs awkwardly and slings his backpack over his shoulder and looked around seeing students once again staring and talking about him.
Tony puts his hand between Peter’s shoulder blades and nods to his nephew. “Lead the way kid.”
Once Harley starts walking ahead of them, Tony whispers “This okay Petey?”
Peter nods, the feeling of Tony touching him makes him feel safe, grounds him. “Yeah. It helps. As long as you don’t mind the whispers.”
Tony couldn’t help but chuckle “I’m Tony Stark, I live for the whispers”
Peter grins and leans more into his touch. “Let’s go home.”
They were able to get down the stairs and onto the main floor before somebody spoke up. “Oh my god it’s Tony Stark!!!”
Peter and Harley both wince, the latter walking more forcefully “Coming through, idiots move out of the way. Yes its Tony Stark but fuck off and let us through.”
Despite Peter’s anxiety and worrying about Flash appearing, he couldn’t help but smile at Harley’s attitude, just like his Uncle; sassy and straight to the point. Not taking no for an answer.
“Language Harley.” Tony stated despite being proud of the younger man for trying to keep people away. This was still a high school and last thing they needed was for someone to report his nephew and delay their exit by a teacher.
All of a sudden they here Peter gasp and freeze. Tony and Harley turn in look in the direction Peter was and see Flash Thompson storming up to him with a face of absolute anger.
Harley starts to lose it, Peter couldn’t get one hour away from that dumb jock. He started to storm in front of Peter and towards the bully but was pulled back when Tony grabbed his hood. “Ah ah Nephew. Let him come forward.”
Harley looked pissed but nodding, clearly his uncle had a plan. He stood in front of Peter and whispered. “Don’t worry Parker, we got you.”
Peter gulped, looking at Flash it was clear he didn’t see Tony but that was what scared him most. If he didn’t see him that means he was going to act his normal self and Tony Stark was not going to be pleased with it.
“Oh is Parker your new boyfriend Harley? That why your boys tried to threaten me?!” Flash hollers as he makes his way to them.
“Not mine no.”
“Then why in the hell are you protecting that faggot.”
Before Harley could form a response, Tony growled. Actually growled which Peter will deny but he found it extremely hot. Tony pats Peter on the shoulder and walks around both boys. Stopping only when he was in front of Flash. “Well you see Mr. Thompson. That ‘faggot’ happens to be a family friend and Harley happens to be my nephew so I asked him politely to keep an eye on Peter as I know some people tend to be rude to him but what I failed to realize was that William’s oldest was going to be one of those kids terrorizing my poor Peter.”
Flash’s eyes widen and he starts sputtering. He didn’t see his father’s employer, too focused on Peter. ”Mr. Stark. Sir. I didn’t realize you were there.”
“So it’s only okay when I’m not here?”
“Sir of course not.. Did you know that Peter has been lying saying he works for you?” Flash attempts to change the subject while eyeing Peter with a smirk.
“Well Mr. Thompson he doesn’t work for me yet but hopefully after he graduates he will be working for SI.” Tony smiles at Peter, to which Peter blushes.
“Hah! I knew it was bullshit! I even got-.”
“Not so fast.” Tony rolls his eyes. “As I was saying, Peter may not be a paid employee of SI but he is however an intern. Has been for over a year now. “
Flash smile falls right off his face. Then he looks from Harley to Peter to Mr. Stark “you’re just saying that because Peter is Harley’s boyfriend!”
Tony’s eyebrows raise up “Excuse me?”
“Flash for the love of god give it a rest.” Peter says exasperated. “What is it going to take for you to realize I’m not fucking lying?? The Tony Stark literally just told you I’m his intern. What your going to need to see me in the flesh there to believe it?”
“Well I’ve never seen a badge in your bag or with you. That building is secure, all employees require one. Intern or otherwise.” Flash crosses his arms.
Harley’s eyes widen in shock and despite his uncles orders he grabs flash by the collar and slams him into a locker “You went through Parkers stuff? You’re sick Thompson. I should beat your fucking ass.”
“Harley! Let go of him please. “
“He’s a piece of shit. “ Harley growls
“Harley please let him go. He’s not worth it.” Peter sighs, knowing Harley may have just cost him his Bike project.
Harley let go of the other teen reluctantly. Peter had been through a shit day and he wasn’t going to make it worse. “Watch yourself Thompson.”
Flash rolls his eyes “and here I thought you would hold the pants in the relationship. Not so tough when your prissy boyfriend tells you what to do. “
Tony rolls his eyes “being an absolute prick is not very becoming Mr. Thompson. Stay away from Peter or you can say goodbye to being able to work alongside your father on Sundays anymore.”
“You know about those?” Flash’s eyes widen
“Of course I do. I know all when it comes to my company and otherwise” Tony slips his glasses on “We will be in contact later Mr. Thompson. You think I would lie to help my nephew’s boyfriend?” Tony leans forward and whispers the next part in his ear. “Peter is with a Stark but not Harley.”
“C’mon boys, let’s go get some lunch. We have serious planning to do.”
Peter and Harley nod “Coming Mr. Stark.”
Tony stops just in front of the entrance doors, holding the door open for the boys. “Oh and Mr. Thompson? It’s a shame you pick on those who are out of the closet when you’re not. “
Flash gaps at the man and sputters as people around him start mumbling around him. “I’m not gay!!!” ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- “So that’s it? Just a friendly stay away from me talk?” Peter asks hopefully between mouthfuls of Chinese.
Harley snorts around his noodles “I really doubt it.”
Tony smiles watches both boys eat. Taking a drink of some protein shake Peter demanded he start drinking. “You would be right Harley, this is just the beginning.”
Peter sighs “Tones… “
“I’m sorry Petey but he can’t and will not get away with being mentally abusive to you. He should be thankful he hasn’t physically harmed you otherwise.” Tony licked his lips. “Well we won’t worry about that because it didn’t happen.”
Harley eyes Peter, Peter was always the shittiest liar and of course the redhead started coughing on his chicken. “You alright Pete?”
Peter grabbed his drink and took a big gulp “um yeah fine. Perfectly fine.” He swallowed and slid his chair away from the table. “Bathroom.” Is all he said then practically ran down the hallway.
Tony watched him go worried then turned to Harley and seen him looking just as worried.
“What exactly happened today Harley.”
“I already told you, Flash was absolute knob, Peter lost his cool. Flash tried to stop him from walking away and Peter made a fool outta him then went to class.”
“Right, But there’s more to it. I’m not stupid.” Tony scratches his chin in thought. About 2 minutes pass before his eyes widen. “ You said Flash tried to stop him”
The blonde nodded nervously. “Yep.”
“How did he try that exactly?”
Harley licked his lips pushed his food around his plate and didn’t say anything
“Harley.”
Harley just looked at his uncle, not saying anything but still saying plenty enough. Tony jumped up and ran down the hall.
“Well fuck me, so much for not being here when the shit hit the fan. “ Harley sighed and leaned back, looking up at the ceiling.
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