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deathofthelastromantics-blog · 2 years

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" Around this table sit a patchwork group of people they are messy, broken, and at times utterly selfish but they are mine and to me they are fierce, kind and endlessly loving. So take care of how you speak of my family. "

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thequeenofsastiel · 2 years

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I am DEEPLY salty that Landon is staying in Limbo instead of going back to the living with Hope. Do you know what it TAKES for me to root for a straight couple? So much. So, so much. But I adore both of them and I adore them together and the fact that they keep getting separated is extremely frustrating.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

#landon kirby deserves better #hope mikaelson deserves better #landon x hope #hope x landon #legacies #handon

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hyperactivewhore · 2 months

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Another crazy thing is Julie Plec saying Bonnie is too good for Kol and that he's too evil for her, then pairing him with a white witch.... (no hate to Davina, but if he's irredeemable for Bonnie, then he’d irredeemable for Davina, too)

It's crazy because she also paired Bonnie with Enzo, a vampire who if I'm not wrong did abuse/kinda terrorize her friends, maybe not to the extent Klaus or Damon did but regardless (only if my memory serves me right; I don't remember much from Enzo, hence why I'm currently rewatching season five.)

Kol literally killed Davina and we're supposed to buy he's the better choice for her? Whether you're mind controlled or not, having your blood sucked out of your body by your boyfriend would leave a scarr for sure and the fact that Davina never got any trauma from it is insane. Bonnie went through worse stuff every season, of course, but she was never allowed to show any emotion onscreen, especially if it was against her white friends.

Saying Bonnie is "too pure" or has "too strong morals" to be with any Mikaelson or Salvatore is just stupid and clearly wrong. Elena and Caroline hated Damon and Klaus, until they didn't, it's easy to see women are being constantly retconned to fit into this shows storylines yet no one ever bats an eye until it comes to the main black woman from The Vampire Diaries.

And this isn't just with romances either. Fans believe Bonnie would hate Rebekah, when there isn't literally any proof to corroborate this and they haven't even interacted, they think she would hate Hope for being a Mikaelson when Bonnie has never been that kind of person. They're desperate to prove she's an anti vampires or generally a prude simply because she's traumatized and rightfully so. She decides to not be nice to the Salvatore brothers in season one after they got her grandmother killed and she's turned into some sort of supervillain because of it.

If Bonnie's actress had been white, I'm pretty sure her character and bloodline would have been in Mikaelson level by the show and fandom.

#this reminds me of how pedro pascal was gonna be marcel's actor #he would have been holding hands with the mikaelson #truly disgusting #bonnie bennett #bonnie bennett deserved better #kol mikaelson #davina claire #klaus mikaelson #kat graham #the vampire diaries #the originals #legacies #hope mikaelson #rebekah mikaelson #tvd #to #enzo st. john

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andreal831 · 9 days

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I feel guilty: In some ways, I feel Hayley and the Mikaelsons set up Hope to fail. Now, with canon included, I think Hope did find her way - but ironically feel like her story should have been "Klaus, Hayley, and Elijah are what the remaining family tied to Hope but with the three dead - Hope is on her own, and having to navigate a world where she loves her dad but everyone is just as entitled to hate him and come into conflict with that". (Sorry, that's a long one). Basically because of how morally dubious the TVD gang (+ Dorian) could be - it makes sense that they know to separate Klaus's actions from Hope - but what about those who did not have that luxury and only remember a monster that was Klaus? I would use Tyler's story, but in a vague gesture: Hope needs to earn someone's trust after her father (or other relatives) brutalized them and has no way to defend or justify it. Essentially getting someone's trust for her as "Only Hope" and not the surname she's connected to. Or the more common arc, Hope realizing just because she loves her family doesn't mean she can overwrite the centuries of cruel history they left behind.

I'm not saying the Mikaelsons didn't love Hope, but Hope is unique (not just as a tribrid but the only living blood relative who hasn't been alive for a millennia) and had pressure on her that shouldn't be there. Hayley loved her, but should have warned her that living in a town that still had - living - people her dad fought with and hurt should have taken precedence over keeping a torch lit for their relationship. Klaus had his chance to be someone in this world, now Hope has to live in it and make something of herself - in his name or by herself.

(Sorry if this comes off anti. While I have anti thoughts and do like Hope, I think she could have stood to have a better characterized arc.)

I'll start by prefacing this and say that I haven't seen much of Legacies, I only know a lot of the show from edits.

But I agree that the show did a pretty terrible job with really diving into the cycle of trauma and pressures that were put on Hope since before she was even born. They were so focused on making Klaus redeemable and centering Hope around Klaus that they didn't allow for her character to have the development she needed.

I really like what I know about Hope's character and I even look past the wild hoops the writers had to jump through to make her existence possible. But for a show that centered around a magical, miracle baby, they sidelined her character a lot. The writers were so focused on setting up Legacies that they forgot to give the characters the development that was necessary for it to get there.

People love to say that Klaus broke the cycle of abuse with Hope, but he didn't. It just manifested in a different way. He never physically harmed her, but he neglected, abandoned, and emotionally harmed her repeatedly. This trauma is something that Hope doesn't even get to work through.

Hope at 7 years old seems more or less well adjusted. I think Hayley did a good job protecting her from everything. She missed her family in an abstract way because she didn't truly understand what she was missing. She had Hayley and Mary. Klaus allowing himself to be captured and held prisoner was the best thing he ever did for Hope. She was able to live for seven years safe and loved. I may get hate for it, but Hope was better off living as a Marshall away from the Mikaelsons.

I don't necessarily think Hayley was wrong for letting Hope grow up believing the best in her family. At that point, Hope was very isolated. She deserved to have a childhood without it being taken away by the Mikaelsons. But I do think Hayley should have had more conversations with her as she got older, especially if she was going to a school where it was likely to come up.

As soon as she is back with the Mikaelsons, her life once again revolved around what she can do for Klaus. I'm not saying they all didn't love Hope, but she was never allowed to just exist. The fact that she used to keep points when she was "good" or "bad" shows just how much she felt it. She had to be perfect because if she wasn't, she wouldn't be worth their sacrifice or Klaus might slip back into a terrible person.

I've talked about it before, but sending Hope to the Salvatore School made no sense to me. She was safer in New Orleans. She had her mother's pack, he vampires would protect her for Josh and Marcel, Vincent wouldn't let anything happen to her, and she had her mother. Hayley sending her daughter away to boarding school for most of the year made zero sense. I watched the first few episodes of Legacies before TO and I genuinely thought they all died when she was a child because of how she acted with Alaric and the twins. She desperately wanted a family, something Hayley had done a great job providing in the past, but sending her away to school made Hope feel neglected. She was already being neglected by Klaus, she didn't need to feel abandoned by both parents.

And, as you said, she is sent to a school that is run by a man who hates her father, in a town full of people who hate her whole family. She had to listen to people talking about how awful they were, and it was all warranted, which makes it worse for her. She didn't get to attempt to process that on her own. She had to do it while constantly being compared to her family. Alaric was always using it as a way to punish her. The adults clearly were not mature enough to separate Hope from what her family did and they had no business being in charge of her.

The entire terrible legacy of the Mikaelsons was put on Hope's shoulder and the show just ignored that trauma because if they didn't, they would have to admit that Klaus wasn't redeemed, everyone just moved on. So then the people who didn't just move on look like the bad guys. Alaric had every right to hate Klaus, Tyler would have every right to hate both of Hayley and Klaus. They don't owe the Mikaelsons anything, but it is also not fair that Hope has to take the brunt of their anger because Klaus died and got away with literal murder. Hope was a child and shouldn't have had to work to prove herself. She deserved love and support and understanding, like every other child. She deserved to have the space and support to sort out her feelings toward her family, the good and the bad. She deserved to yell at Klaus for abandoning her, to be angry at Elijah for putting that pressure on her, to be angry at her aunts and uncles for abandoning her after her parents died. She deserved to figure out who she was outside of the legacy of pain and torment her family left behind, but as far as I can tell, she is never given that time. All of this would have given her character more depth. Coming to the realization that her family were terrible people but she still loved them is a hard pill to swallow, but it was something she needed to come to terms with. Glorifying Klaus and erasing Hayley, did very little for her development except to play on Klaus' popularity for views.

I love the Mikaelsons but each and every one of them were terrible at being family and terrible people. Hope suffered because of this.

Thanks for the ask! Sorry if I just went on a tangent and didn't fully answer your question.

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fandoms--fluff · 10 months

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I have one thing to say:

I HATE ALARIC SALTZMAN

I mean in the early seasons of tvd he was fine and I liked him, but then it dwindled down in the later seasons. And completely turned to hatred when I watched Legacies.

I hate how he treats Hope.

THE POOR GIRL ALREADY LOST SO MUCH AND THEN HIM THROWING IT IN HER FACE MAKES ME FEEL PURE HATRED AND ANGER FOR HIM.

also how he neglects his own DAUGHTERS over and over again, and then gets mad at them for the smallest things or to get his damn attention.

I feel so bad for all three of my poor babies, they deserve so much better.

#alaric saltzman #I hate alaric #alaric is the worst #hope mikaelson #lizzie saltzman #josie saltzman #they deserved better #hope deserved better #mini rant #legacies

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handonhaven · 2 years

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alternate ending where Landon escapes limbo and comes back to life as a phoenix (with his soul/emotions restored) and he and Hope leave the school to go live their lives together

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imhereforthetryus · 6 months

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Its funny how the second bonnie was being recongized for her power, we get a bunch of “powerful” white witches IN FUCKING NEW ORLEANS OF ALL PLACES??? (really julie if you wanted to pick a location with magical background use salem mass, oh wait then you might have to include mentions of the bennetts if you actually recall s1 dialogue actually how is there no mention of bennetts in one of the biggest witch communities esp since the supernatural talk)

(Vincent really the only powerful magic user consistently shown Ntm how rushed inandu/werewolf lore was oh well!)

Mind you even though plec wanted them to be powerful if you really look at it their not. Which is the opposite of bonnie predicment because she’s constantly shown to be powerful but the narrative tries to tell you she not(with the nosebleeds🙄)

No one ever compares hope to her family witches, i never seen anyone try to compare davina and freya magic even though the originals at one point makes a dig about davina not understand freya magic yet everyone compares every other witch to Bonnie because deep down they know she’s as powerful as its gets

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Davina- had four harvest girls magic in her and her magic is ancestral magic and nola witches cant pratice magic outside of nola

Dahlia and Freya- dahlia immortality spell is legit the worse spell in the game. Wydm you’re only live life awake for 10years and you physically age. The fact that the magic was building up between them and her/freya most powerful moments were them linked… i dont find her all that impressive first how much knowledge can you retain of magic something that everychanging in one year, realistically even if you were powerful you would have no expertise. Might i mention that dahlia and her whole coven couldn’t protect themselves from humans, and esther couldn’t or wouldnt stop/neutralize mikael from being an abuser. I doubt their descendants have much magic

#bonnie bennett #bonnie deserves better #anti julie plec #it speaks to a spefic brand of racism which will copy and oowh aah at black entertainment and culture but still try to insert yt people and #whitewash it #hope is the only white witch i can see havint power and only bcs of inadu/hayley side #anti dahlia #anti freya mikaelson #anti davina #i say its funny but its not #okay rant over #this is a mess i said about three different points #tvd meta

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cancerian-woman · 11 months

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so do you think klaus was actually redeemed by the show, and would you say Elijah's character in tvd was ruined/was ooc in the originals? (i haven't watched the show and I'm trying to decide if i should)

Some slight spoilers in this. Do I think Klaus was redeemed? No, not even in the slightest. Death by redemption only counts if it’s done correctly and that’s if the person changed prior to their death imo. Klaus didn’t change whatsoever. The series portrays Klaus’ redemption on how Hope turned out and if his family becomes better people by her existence. Which is an issue in itself. How was one little baby-to-teenaged girl supposed to fix her thousand year old relatives? The family wanted to be something better, create a better world for Hope and that never happens. Hope barely knows the Mikaelson’s in TO yet she is unfairly loaded with all their traumas and grievances and by the time the show ends she’s 14/15 or 16. (They never was accurate with her age.) I will be transparent there’s always some plot issue that kept her away from her family outside of Hayley conveniently. (I personally think think the plot functions more for Hayley than it does anyone else.) I wouldn’t say Klaus didn’t love Hope. But the way seasons 4-5 of TO are written he values that “always and forever” more than he does Hope’s life.

Yes, Elijah was arguably much better in TVD. In TVD he wasn’t always obsessed with redeeming his brother and when we first met Elijah he was very against Klaus. He appeared to have more depth to him than “all in the name of family..” Elijah Mikaelson. If the plan was to have Elijah become more insufferable so Klaus could potentially be a better person…it was poorly done because as I said. Klaus doesn’t change, nor did the rest of his family. I also want to add in how Marcel is treated by Elijah (the Mikaelson’s as a whole) but mainly through Elijah is disgustingly racist coded..which is a fault of the writers as usual. As a familiar unit the Mikaelsons are better on TO than they are TVD. But, that also varies on the sibling.

If you like the Mikaelson’s I’d say go ahead and watch. You may see some of the things I mentioned here or have a different perspective on them! But if they aren’t your favorite characters you aren’t missing much. If the baby plot isn’t your thing either I wouldn’t watch. I do want to say these opinions was formed from watching the series a couple of times.

#for tagging purposes #anti the mikaelsons #anti elijah mikaelson #season 2 Elijah Mikaelson was so much better #anti the originals #anti klaus mikaelson #hope deserved a lot better from everybody hayley included sorry but 💁🏽‍♀️#anti to #dria responds

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winnie-the-monster · 9 months

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I swear I’ll never be over how legacies try to make, Hope becoming a full tribrid(before she even really wanted to) and possibly giving up a future(having kids of her own) she might want for herself. As well as going through the trauma(not that this show knew what trauma was) of having to kill the love her life, as some good and noble thing, bc she’d be saving lives. Only to acknowledge later on, that none of that had to happen in first place, bc they could’ve found another way.

#the only good thing about that thing was the sweet moment with Hope and Freya #everything else was just BS #sorry I got to thinking about this again today and got mad all over again #bc if they admitted that Landon didn’t have to die then Hope probably didn’t have to either #I’ll never be over any of this #or the trauma this show gave me #if I could go back in time I know the exact second i would’ve stopped watching #Hope mikaelson deserved better #random thoughts #rants

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azurecanary · 1 year

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Another thing I’ll NEVER forgive TO and Legacies for is erasing the love Cami had for Hope.

Cami was a human who was willing to protect Hope as a baby.

It was for Cami who Hope used magic the first time to protect.

It was Cami who left Hope a collection of magical objects so she would have a connection to her heritage.

It was for Hope that Cami was willing to endure compulsion again to protect.

Cami O’Connell loved Hope Mikaelson like a daughter and Hope will never know.

#cami o'connell deserved better #cami o'connell #hope mikaelson #anti the originals #anti legacies #Cami being a human willing to protect the supernaturals she loves

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legaciesgifworld · 2 years

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#i! wish! the! answer! was! being! with! you! oh my god he looks so sad he looks like he's gonna cry he deserves so much better #than what he got. even if hes not with hope he deserves to have a life! and like i may not love handon but this is so sad #landonkirbyedit #hopemikaelsonedit #legaciesedit #handonedit #handon #hope x landon #hope mikaelson #landon kirby #handondaily #legacies #legacies edit #handon edit #hope mikaelson edit #landon Kirby edit #s4 #4x17 #luca's gifs

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deathofthelastromantics-blog · 2 years

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" Fragile was our love, short was our time. But we made something good and full were our lives."

#the originals #hayley marshell #pheobe tonkin #klaus mikaelson #joseph morgan #hope mikaelson #danielle rose russell #legacies #klaylope #klayley #klaus is trying guys #klaus loves hayley #always and forever #the vampire diaries #hizzie #hope mikaelson deserves better #klaus deserved better #hayley deserved better #hope andrea mikaelson

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userlaylivia · 1 year

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elliosfuego1 · 1 year

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Hope (After getting her humanity back) : “Why would you stick around after what I did to you?”

Lizzie (Used to repeating herself by now) : “Ever love someone so much, you’ll settle for being friends just to have them in your life?”

#hizzie #hope x lizzie #legacies #pain just pain #lizzie saltzman #elizabeth saltzman #Lizzie deserves better #hope mikaelson #Hope is hella obviously

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bpmorepjo · 2 years

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hope mikaleson and wanda maximoff give the same energy

Like they were super innocent and protected all the time

But eventually became corrupted by power in order to save others (each had their reasons ok?)

#i support all their wrongs #characters that deserved so much better #hope mikaelson #wanda maximoff #legacies #marvel

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isagrimorie · 2 years

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The way Hope and Landon, Lizzie, and MG supposedly know each other more than anyone else...

I don't disagree that they know each other but 'more than anyone else'?

Wade enters the chat: "EXCUSE ME? Who knew it was FAKE!Landon???"

MG does know Lizzie but he's been so blinded by his love for her, that I feel like he is blinded by one fundamental thing about her.

(Ethan, also enters the chat: Yo, man. I'm here next to you, you know that, right?)

The one Lizzie always goes to though... isn't consistently MG. Also, again, I'm trying not to be biased here but Lizzie just doesn't seem thrilled about his love confession. I think it's been long enough by now for Lizzie to know how she feels or doesn't feel for MG.

Because it's clear that she does love MG but she isn't in love with him.

How do you keep a friend whom you love but aren't in love with? But who is head over heels for you?

(Also this is the reason why I doubt Hope/Lizzie will be canon because Lizzie's told Hope she loves her twice now but the show didn't frame it the same weight and it's -- sigh. I know. A Julie Plec show in an embattled CW that might be looking for more conservative owners to stay afloat).

IT just sucks.

#hope mikaelson #lizzie saltzman #hope ANDREA mikaelson #ship: hey bitch #ship: hope and lizzie #ship: til the bitter end #tv: legacies #hope x lizzie #hizzie #landon kirby #anti-mizzie #not anti anti just that i don't want this #to go into a tag with the ship #mg deserves better than this

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