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dwter · 2 years

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hey everyone, so ive had a lot of time at this point to ruminate and have had conversation after conversation about everything going on and i truly and genuinely mean this when i say i think so much of my thinking and immediate reactions were entirely based in fear, anxiety and grief that i didn't give myself the ability to view the situation as it is.

ill say from the beginning ive always chosen to view this in a worst case scenario perspective. not just for myself, but also i think dismissing the victim ESPECIALLY those using anything to dismiss her literally instantly is really icky and so ive always looked at this with the perspective of everything (more or less) being true. now with that in mind--i dont think this entire thing was nearly as black and white as i initially thought it was. im saying it straight to save everyone the time to try and figure out my perspective, but after talking with people and thinking about real life, how people irl would view this and DO view it and other instances of this exact scenario happening both online and in real life: this is truly just not the horrible morally bankrupt incident i thought it was.

i thought a lot about how i wanted to go about explaining my perspective or if i even wanted to bc i really didnt want this to he seen as "dream defense" or align myself with the people who have had that stance since the absolute beginning bc they are srsly insane, but this is more for myself and for anyone who felt like they didnt have a perspective they resonated with throughout all of this. this is one of the first instances where i felt a genuine dissonance between my thoughts and feelings and my friends in the community whose thoughts i have always always valued above anything else, often even my own, especially when i was struggling with feeling conflicted out of fear and grief. i always clung to the people whose opinions i trusted (and still do trust dont get me wrong) because it felt easier than having to sort my guilty and scared conscience into rationality that could possibly oppose the people ive always looked to for guidance in discourse. just that fear on being on the wrong side of history and such. but like i said, this long winded and horribly overserious essay is for me more than anyone else--if not for people who have struggled with the exact same shitty time.

ill say the absolute first thing: it was not grooming. i held this opinion literally the entire time and people calling it grooming are not only using the term wrong but genuinely causing harm to such a serious topic. we are talking about two adults in a relationship with an age difference of four years like holy shit. when the first girl dropped her story, almost everyone came to the conclusion that it just wasnt that serious because he thought she was 18. with the second girl, she was one month from 18 and the dms from before turning such were genuinely the driest conversations in the world that he never initiated or made any notion of pursuing. this isnt to say you cant be icked out--the point of me talking about this isnt to make you suddenly change your views on anything but to try and claim that it was grooming or a crime took place is just wrong and dishonest of everyone. this is such a large part of where my personal dissonance with everyone's takes came from bc the way people were trying to claim that liking an 18 year old as a 22 year old was something akin to literal pedophilia (<- bc people WERE genuinely saying this) made me feel confused but also deeply guilty because i really just did not understand. and now that im less miserable, i can recognize that that confusion wasnt just linked to parasocialism or whatever deep twisted thing i thought was in my soul, it was literally just not the big insane evil everyone made it out to be. again, this isnt to try and say you individually cant be like "i dont like this" or "this is icky to me" or "this was bad judgement on his part" (<- which is my personal view btw) but to pretend it is some strange insane act of an active predator genuinely boggles my mind. i dont want to chalk everything up to being covidbrained but i think its a huge part of where this dissonance to real life comes from because i really do think if most of you sit down with genuinely and utterly normal people, they will not give a fuck about this. ive SEEN people have conversations about this with noemal people irl and have them literally laugh in their face bc of how deeply unserious it is. and again, i want to reenforce that doesnt mean YOU dont have to care, but to act as if this isnt an objectively undeep incident between two people is odd, especially to the degree ive seen.

now i cant just say this and be done so lets talk about the next part that people had an issue with: fan and creator power dynamic. ill also say this very straight: when the stuff came out with both girls i had a much larger issue with the "age gaps" than i did this for so many reasons. ive always, even before all of this, had my own opinions and such about ccs and fans ever having relationships and it usually along the basis of "as long as there is consent and mutuality, i have no real issue." its not strange to me that people want to be with people they like and idealize and vice versa. to keep this as objective as i can with this perspective, i wont get into thoughts that for dream specifically it especially doesnt surprise me in the sense that his past relationship + facing vitriol from every corner of the internet but fans + overall paranoia could have absolutely reenforced the normalcy and reasoning in this judgement call but i digress. i mean just obvious examples of people wanting to get with celebrities, or groupies or even in platonic ways where fans become genuine and actual friends of creators--ccs having relationships with fans was never a big deal to me personally. and since its relevant to mention in this case, ESPECIALLY online ones. im not saying there cant be power imbalances among a fan and a cc/celebrity, but to get like theyre all inherently like that again just makes zero sense to me and never has even before dream. this applies especially online where power dynamics are significantly dampened from what they can be and just i mean logically, dream has been a full blown cc for like a little less than 3 years and only at this level for maybe 1 or 2 without experiencing it in real life too. the idea that he himself would not see an issue with this, especially because it was a mutual exchange of company, is so completely unsurprising. and at its core, there really is no real issue in it of itself. a bad judgement call from dream? yes and ill stand by that since he shouldve been better safe than sorry. morally bankrupt and manipulative? 😭 no, not after really assessing shit rationally. i also want to add that it was a mutual thing. i know people are really trying to tear everything amanda says apart (<- which is incredibly strange btw, especially if that was your instant reaction and you were doing it publicly too), but taking everything shes saying as true, we know that there was a MUTUAL exchange of things of a sexual nature and this wasnt some manipulative one-sided exchange where dream controlled everything and gave nothing in return. this isnt to say that amandas feelings are entirely invalid or anything along those lines, but those feelings stem from miscommunication and not morally bankrupt predatory behaviours. like seeing all of the info and looking at the situation as it is, its very clear dream saw and believed this to be a mutual relationship. i was so confused and scared and panicked seeing words like "groomer", "innocent", "guilty", "predator" and others being thrown around i didnt even want to try viewing it for myself. but now that i have and now that ive talked to others, this entire situation reads as a bad break up more than anything else, not a strange manipulative abuse of power where mutuality is nonexistent.

overall this entire situation was framed so horrifically and i was tearing myself apart so much about feeling confused, it genuinely did not hit me the extent of just how deeply unserious it was until a friend of mine told me how they went out with their normal, most unchronically online friend, told the situation in the most objective way possible, and they literally laughed in their fucking face 😭 i also started thinking about real life instances of this happening like if it was another cc, a random tiktoker, an actor and realizing i literally would not care--and significantly less people who are as up in arms as they are would care too. and that ignores the fact that it was ONLINE, compared to in-person where whatever power dynamic could exist would be amplified by a thousand.

this entire thing is just so entirely subjective and if your personal opinions and values find this all shitty, absolutely no one is going to try and say to feel otherwise, at least not me. but to completely ignore that its just that--personal--values and opinions that determine how you view this, and act as though it is objectively some morally bankrupt, impossible to understand, predatory situation just feels reactionary and disconnected from real life at best and just shitty and even virtue signalling at worst. and also dont get me started on what some of you twisted that charity event in technos memory into because fucking shame on you, but ill make a separate post on that later maybe.

this really isnt meant to be a form of "dream defense" because if i was taught anything this past week it was that the way i connected so much of my own conscience to my ability to defend dream and his pr was and is entirely unhealthy, and it was all a wake up call--just not towards dream. the level of miserable agony i experienced, not even mostly because of what dream did, but because i felt like i couldnt DEFEND it, was dangerously all consuming and i dont want that anymore. its just not a healthy way to engage with any media, the need to constantly justify it in every single instance, and especially not with a cc. i want to be able to just see drama and controversy ride out and not have it feel so utterly all consuming, even if i do choose to comment on it. im making this statement bc like i said, it really sucked to feel like there was no public voice i completely agreed with and i realized that i could do that role if i wanted. and honestly, its just been very cathartic for me to write all of this out after feeling like an echo chamber of other peoples thoughts and my own grief the last week.

this community disappointed me in many ways, both the freaks who jumped on any baseless thread disproving amandas claims, dissected her behaviour, was very strangely dream defensive and chose to do all that shit PUBLICLY too. but also the people who chose to use this as an opportunity to act in the most reactionary strange ways that felt so virtue signal-y it was nauseating. i know the people who held/hold the views i did also dealt with the guilt and fear i did too, and thus no one was willing to so deal with the mortifying ordeal of a) sorting through these thoughts and b) saying them in any kind of public space even with just close friends, but ESP on a public blog. i mean, that was literally me. but it really fucking sucked to have just these two extremely polarizing and extremely isolating opinions be the only available voices 😭 my thoughts are getting very rambley now and i apologize, but i hope my points are getting across.

this is already insanely long, but ill start wrapping up. if you disagree with me, obviously thats fine. like i said, this was never made with the objective to change peoples minds which arguably was what my usual dream discourse essays was meant for sometimes. this was made for me and for this specific perspective to have light for anyone who wants or needs it. all i hope is that if you do come out of this with anything, is some form of awareness. of either real life, your opinions or even just yourself i dont know.

i really did love my time on tumblr so so fucking much. and i loved the people here even more so. i think i owe it all to you guys and just my blog itself to say my thoughts on shit, no matter if any of you agree or not. plus i mean if this flops i surely never have to face the consequences if im leaving anyways so peepoClap. thank you all so much for everything, and if you made it this far, thank you so much for taking the time to read my bullshit. i dont know if after this ill still leave, but regardless, it feels wrong to not make some homage to such an impactful place in my life. impactful people too :)

thank u all for reading again, and good fucking night !

#this is maybe the longest tumblr post ive ever made but i think it needed to be #i bet lots of you are sick of reading about this too but this still felt important to post #i already said so much in the essay itself so i wont keep going in the tags too #just love u all very much. stay safe everyone ❤️#hope this brings some perspective to anyone if they want it :)#dream situation #discourse

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bylerfields · 16 days

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maybe it's space curating bc i definitely see the mike side as the higher volume/frequency, i mean most times theres discourse it's bc someone poking at the will preference. like with the polls anons this week that only happened bc an anon said bratty btm mike was obvious and "at most" btm leaning switch, but stating it as fact not opinion. all preferences are opinion for the reasons you said, we only see them until 14 and havent seen their sex life. usually anything else said is just response to the first rudeness, or thats what i see. theres an acc on here who used to comment on btm will fics calling for btm mike instead which i think is very rude for fandom. theres accs on here blatantly posting on the public dash how people who don't prefer subby btm mike are crazy and even not as smart for not seeing it. how is that not rude? then the multiple times spicy polls anons have been rude instead of just sending asks about their preference for mike and making the experience better for themselves. did you see the polls anon that said something and added "anyway btm mike >>>" months ago? i dont think i've seen that from a btm will? i tried really hard to think if i had! but it's those kinds of behavior we dont need amongst us bc no one is better. i follow lots of spicy bylers and havent seen that from btm will or switch bylers, they just post about their preference. i've made moots with people who came from twitter who said it would happen there too, they'd respond to rudeness for not "getting" sub mike and suddenly are the bad guys. so they got tired by the behavior and stopped being active. maybe your dash is more peaceful but i dont see will sides of things saying things until prompted. or with every right to offer an opinion to what was said bc this is a public space. i'm surprised you've seen more for the opposing side? tbh you will have people who are extra who are rude in every side of a ship preference but the 'frequency' to me has been the mike side. i was annoyed when i saw the bratty anon on spicy polls bc i knew it was going to start more annoying discourse that means nothing. how are they shocked people don't share the same preference? thats normal in fandom. you'd have to be new to fandoms to be shocked

anon I unfortunately think this is just a case of you not seeing the rudeness on the other side because you agree with the stance. especially with the sentiment of people not being as smart for not seeing it - that’s like, a pretty pervasive topic in the sfw side of our fandom as far as will goes.

the ao3 comment thing is obviously rude so i’m with you on that.

it could definitely be that i just don’t follow or see posts like that, though i do follow some really kind people with bottom mike prefs. i’ll take your word for it, but i guess i’d say that even the “anyway bottom mike >” posts come across as tongue in cheek, and again, isn’t it okay to share preferences? it’s a little brash, sure, but it shouldn’t be shocking for people to want to express these prefs in the tag, like you said.

i’m saying all this with a pretty clear preference for bottom will, too, so it’s always a little surprising to me that others don’t see it because it’s not like i’m biased. but it’s just always felt obvious to me that bottom mike fans are the minority in the fandom - think about the reason you haven’t seen any of the asks of similar nature for bottom will in spicybylerpolls. there’s no need for it lmao - and it just takes one annoying comment, likely from an anon or someone not active in the fandom (that the op probably made without even thinking) to get 10 people to come to it’s defense with think pieces galore about the canon validity. sure, they have every right to comment on what was said but there shouldn’t be such a big need for defense, i guess?

have you thought about the possibility that theyre likely just experiencing fandom a little differently than you and (other than the ao3 comment thing) are not intending to invalidate you or be rude to you?

even with the recent anon sharing how surprised they were to find that more people didn’t see mike as a bottom, i get how it could come across as invalidating if they weren’t coming from a place of clearly knowing theyre in the minority of opinions. imagine someone saying that around the dinner table with friends. its funny, its a differing take, sure its a little over confident but it’s not rude to anyone - even with an opposing outlook myself i think it sparks fun conversation when someone else is shocked theyre the odd one out. i’m more curious than offended. i may be naive and giving them the benefit of the doubt, but this is often the tone i perceive when i see pro bottom mike posts. i think they’re pretty aware of what the common opinion is.

this is similar to how i feel when i see “where are the bottom mike fics/poll questions/etc? i’m tired of bottom will” again, same situation, if a friend said this in a group of bottom will fans, it doesn’t come across to me as being actually upset and wanting to silence us, it’s just: silly. there’s that surprise of “am i really the only one who didn’t go crazy over [insert xyz thing that mike did in the show], where are my people?” and i think they’re entitled to do so. just as people with our preference are over things we saw in the show. bottom will fans already have their people, it was the default when the polls started. i guess thats all i’m saying.

from my now 1.5 years on the nsfw side, it seems like there’s always going to be an assumption from someone that people sharing opinions about a more subby mike are being spiteful, rude, or trying to be divisive.

you say no one is better, but seem to have a very low tolerance for posts about bottom mike. having the preference is okay, but only if they come with the perfect angelic attitude about it. i’d say we don’t hold the same standard for bottom will posters - and it makes sense that you’re not gonna perceive a (pretty consistent) negative, superior attitude if you’re nodding along to the sentiment.

thank you for the context!!!

#i fear i’ll manage to piss off both sides with this #as per usual #spicy byler

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i-bring-crack · 24 days

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imagine an alternate universe where jinwoo and jinchul started dating after Kang taeshiks death. So,I wonder how it will affect the story and happy ending prepare actually.

Aint that just canon but no rewind? (im delusional) anyways while i dont have a lot of opinions over taeshik x jinwoo or jinchul x taeshik (despite my love for it, especially after ragnarok) well for once it will definetly be interesting that jinwoo had to kill taeshik during the prisoners arc, like if they had been dating beforehand (bc taeshik likes the fact that he can outlast death so many times or smth, i have more to say but it will go into spoiler town) and just now jinwoo found out his job, then it will put them at conflictive stance where jinwoo had slowly become that person he loves and also hates. It probaly would eat him up knowing that not only was he closed to taeshik but also inherited some of his assasin traits at the end of the day. And then Jinwoo falling in love with jinchul later on would probably also put the latter to be anxious because he doesnt want Jinwoo to end up as psychopathic as Taeshik had once been. It would certainly be fun to explore more of those inherent similarities with Taeshik and Jinwoo, assasins in their own way liking the slaughter of others, but differentiate when it comes to what kind of slaughter, Taeshik he likes killing peoplle whereas Jinwoo likes killing magic beasts. And how, if it wasn't for that small difference he would have ended to be as psychotic or as heroic as the other is placed out to be.

That whole 'two sides of the same coin' kind of theme is what could have gone well, and what could have also led Jinwoo to ask himself just how far he is willing to kill, and if-- the longer his emotions keep fading and he more his blood lust for humans becomes rampant-- such actions could one day come turn him over to a new leap and end up with him becoming the villain of what he once tried to protect.

There certainly are some pieces there that make Jinwoo loose that sense of empathy as the stories go on. And this isnt to defend anyone but rather just see it from another perspective on how Jinwoo slowly drifts apart from reasonably thinking to committing the justice he thinks is deserved of what he views, no matter the cost or what others may think. (Guess I could say he slowly begins to act more and more selfish because he has already been ruthlessly hurt by those around him.)

From the very beginning his trust is broken by Mr Kim, and the fights with the Lizards and Taeshik are all justified as him trying to protect his life, and none of the others seem to be less justified as well, but theres a point in the story, The International conference, where Jinwoo doesn't really care about cooperation and rather would take things on by himself if it means his family is protected. (Yes, showing weakness at that conference would have been bad, but I don't really think a lot of people would have been down for killing another hunter right now, especially against the one who decimated Thomas and sent him straight to the ER. So no, that little exposition of 'I will kill anyone here who touches my family' would have caused literally the whole world more problems than actually solve them.) or if it means he can place judgement on others like how he did at the side stories with the murder case. And again, that isn't to defend any of the criminals or the people that tried to mess with him, but rather its to say that we, or humans really, have laws, and the enforcement on them for a reason. Jinwoo, for the most part lived in a world that was lawless, as it was said by the lizards, no one would know what happens when you die, so Jinwoo and other hunters had to make their own justice by themselves.

But those psychological differences and Jinwoo's own similarities to Taeshik were just swept under the rug pretty fast in favor of "well the others where shit" instead of taking the time to show that "hey, maybe Jinwoo's one solution methods of killing those he hates might not be so well when you consider that he could impose his own morals or opinions into others by force of death since everyone in the world has biases and often negates or lacks the information to change their view, and that isn't any different for Jinwoo. So instead of killing he could at least approach the subjects with a bit of more self control and finding a better solution that isn't *checks the side stories* fucking sending them to the shadow realm to be tortured."

And going bac kto the post that it was talking about (DAMMIT I RANTED OFF TOPIC) Jinchul could serve to reinforce that point by showing Jinwoo that yes, there is a system that will take care of those who threaten him and take advantage of others (KHA) and that there will be people to also judge his actions which he has to take into account more and more as he begins to loose his own emotions. Someone that could be there to protect him from, quite literally the biggest threat he has ever faced, which end up being Jinwoo's own self and the responsibility that comes with controlling death itself.

BUT IM NOT THE AUTHOR SO TO THE TRASHCAN YOU GO---

#solo leveling #sung jin woo #asks #chulwoo #spoilers

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loveisbraveandwild · 3 months

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Taylor can donate more money in secret than she would ever be able to make a difference by calling for a ceasefire not even the head of the UN could get anyone to agree to. This is nearly a hundred years of horrific politics in the making, she can't do anything about it. She's a pop star! Not an elected official. Everyone who is her fan to the point of caring about her opinion already, most likely, is anti-genocide considering she is a role model for the soft hearted. She's already a target of violence and hatred; if tumblr users can loudly want for her death then gun-wielding zionists or violent misogynistic Republicans will too. She let us know what side she's on by going to a fundraiser for Palestine. Lucy and Phoebe are her friends and there's absolutely no way they haven't talked about it and therefore donated to one of the many causes Lucy has been posting about. I think just maybe Taylor deserves for us to trust her about this.

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah i dont really know how to explain to people how taylor’s silence hurts. i dont really care abt the private conversations she’s having with friends. also, if lucy and phoebe r posting on social media and she isn’t, i hope she’s asking herself why. there’s a reason phoebe and lucy r posting abt it- because their platforms matter and they know that. i disagree that her privately donating matters more than speaking out. yes, sending money and resources to gaza is essential, but i’m also interested in a global interrogation of the western world and the harm western governments have done to billions of people globally, namely Brown and Black people. Money doesnt STOP the genocide, it just gives the people being genocided food and medicine MAYBE ?? until they probably die. i also think her asking people to donate and getting 10% of her followers to donate $10 is over 300 million dollars and there’s no way in hell do i believe she’s donating THAT much. i disagree with ultra rich people asking regular people to donate, but at this point, i’ll take anything. also sure, she went to a fundraiser, but again, sending money to a relief fund isn’t the same as taking a stance. am i supposed to pat her on the back for showing up to one event in an outfit that could feed a Palestinian for an entire year ONCE during an almost 130 day genocide? I am also so sick and tired of people talking abt her safety. i care abt her safety!!! but i dont care abt her comfort, especially when quite literally millions of palestinians are unsafe she’s also one of the richest people in the world and im not convinced that there aren’t a plethora of things she could do to keep herself safe. in the wake of advocating for what is just, what is right, and what is beyond necessary to stop the endless, brutal, vile murders of tens of thousands of Palestinian people.

#also saying zionists would attack her is EXACTLY WHY she needs to speak out!!#zionists r violent and they should be scare to share their beliefs!!!#they should not feel comfortable or supported in their call for an ethno religious state that is only possible through stealing lan #d and genociding people!!!#she should be advocating for a ceasefire!!! not being silence in a way that inherently perpetuates violence

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sincerely-sofie · 2 months

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hello! i apologize for adding to the list of religion related asks in your inbox and, as this is another form of criticism you can ignore it, im mostly an enjoyer of your work and ive merely found a discrepancy.

i just think its important to point out that the people you end up surrounding yourself with and the people that a community deems to be one of their own, IF this is your experience which i am not Assuming but rather Pointing To as a debate starter of sorts, is not in fact the group at large.

its factual that many, Many people have been abused by the church, inside and ouside of it, by many people and in many ways, and the number of people harassed by christians, especially ones in positions of power in churches but also the commonfolk, is incredibly high. much higher than it would be if it were just a vocal minority, because then its doubtful that it would be so widespread, but especially that it would be so Personal, crimes done to people by people in particular they thought they could trust.

i am not telling you to disbelieve yourself or that there are hidden horrors in your community, but trying to bring a possible unawareness to light. if this is unwarranted or undesired and you dont wish to make any public response you can delete this ask, absolutely 0 hard feelings i wont say anything else.

love your work, have a nice day, bring more joy into the universe as you try to

Hey, thanks for this ask! Discrepancies and blind spots are a difficult thing for people to rid themselves of alone, so your reaching out to help with something you were worried about is appreciated. This is all a fair bit stressful and new for me— I've never really talked about my faith before now— but once again, I figured a public response is better than the alternative. Thanks for saying you enjoy my work. I appreciate your well wishes. And your English is absolutely wonderful, don't worry about it!

For context, I've previously said that the vast majority of Christians are loving people and that there's an unfortunate vocal minority of cruel individuals. First off: people absolutely have suffered abuse at the hands of Christians, especially Christians in positions of authority, and their suffering should never be diminished or dismissed. My church takes a pretty intense stance on abuse— anyone who misuses their influence over someone is going to answer to God for it, church leaders are to report any abuse they learn of to the proper authorities and help protect against future abuse, and the general membership are expected to do everything we can to prevent abuse and to defend and help the victims.

I'm of the opinion that Christianity (or at least my specific denomination— I'm not educated enough to speak with authority on the state of each individual branch of Christianity, and I think that some churches are, to put it lightly, more prone to hateful behavior than others) is largely populated by kind and loving people. Again, that isn't to diminish the experiences of those who have suffered abuse— they've gone through horrible things that truly happened and shouldn't be brushed aside. My belief in abuse being done by a minority is mainly rooted in the vastness of the Christian population and my belief that people have an inherent goodness rooted in them.

Pulling from some statistics I found on Google (which may be inaccurate, so don't quote me on this!), there are about 2.3 billion Christians out of the 8 billion people in the world. For a majority of Christians to be cruel and abusive, I would need to believe (forgive my bad math here, I'm not the best with this stuff) that at least 1 person out of every 8 people I meet is cruel and abusive. I don't think that's how the world works, and haven't seen any research to change my mind, so I don't believe that.

What I do believe is that people who want to hurt people will find ways to hurt people, especially when they can find ways to excuse their injustice with religion, being a senior member of a family, or similar garbage— and that with such a great population of the world being Christian, you'll hear a lot of instances of abuse being done by Christians. Like I said previously— certain denominations are prone to abusive behavior. This is absolutely undeniable. But my lived experience as well as personal research has indicated to me that they and the individual bad actors don't make up the majority of Christians, even if they make the most appearances on the news.

Thanks again for the ask and your concern. This is my personal understanding of things, and if you disagree, you're fully in your rights to! I've definitely skimmed over things here— no person is 100% good or 100% evil, and my efforts to be brief definitely haven't helped the subtlety that needs to go into discussions of morality in groups. But I wanted to explain my perspective. It really comes down to the math of things for me. I don't think that even 1 in 10 people is remotely unkind, let alone over 1 in 8 being willing to abuse others. I hope that I've made myself clear in a polite way— it's hard to have these kinds of discussions in writing! I've tried my best though, and I hope it comes across in this.

#I am once again running on very little sleep and I desperately hope this makes sense #I tried my best! Though I certainly don't have any Herculean abilities when it comes to communicating #*sweats and recalls the time I thought my dad was talking about cooking when he was discussing fireworks*#sofie answers asks

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princeseerow · 2 years

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after trying to work out some character details for an entirely unrelated au i got caught up thinking about that fucking starfish book again, and it finally really occurred to me why i have such an issue with it. a lot of rambling and proposed edits below

i mean, obviously its all down to how weirdly written the rachels are, but like, i finally managed to articulate why instead of just rolling my eyes and moving on lol

Mean Rachel is... fine, i guess? in theory its a good vehicle to explore the more bloodthirsty and violence-craving aspects of rachel's personality, although i truly dont believe she'd just magically turn into a giant dickhead. in my opinion Mean Rachel should be more like No-Filter Rachel. doesnt go out of her way to, like, physically threaten random mean girls at the mall with knives, but also doesnt bite her tongue and isnt afraid to say what she really thinks

and Mean Rachel's stance on weakness and strength is weird. rachel has never looked down on anyone for being weak. maybe it's a trait she wouldnt want applied to her own self, but to me it seems more like she resents other people for being allowed to be "weak", for lack of a better word. a lot of rachel's internal conflict in other books is that she seems to almost envy the people that dont have to shoulder the mental and emotional burden that she does by being the team's berserker. one of the very first things we see rachel do after meeting elfangor is physically shield cassie from having to watch him get eaten. that says... a lot, that rachel views herself as a protector, and that its her job to shield people like cassie from having to witness true horrors

so in my opinion Mean Rachel should keep the protector mindset that rachel already has, but with a much more pronounced attitude of contempt. maybe Mean Rachel is finally able to confront the others (jake and cassie in particular) about how they view her as a necessary evil while still embracing her own bloodthirst. (well, maybe she does actually do this in the book because i dont 100% remember, but in my hypothetical rewrite she'd do it in a way that doesnt turn her into a cartoon villain and actually gets the audience to sympathize with her a little)

and Nice Rachel..... oh Nice Rachel.....

Nice Rachel is like completely antithetical to everything we know about rachel as a character. okay yeah she likes shopping, but to distill this side of her to a vapid boy crazy pushover mallrat is kind of sad actually. rachel is such a cool character because she's not that, shes written to intentionally subvert that trope. so my proposal here is that if the other one is No-Filter Rachel, this one should be Too-Much-Filter Rachel. the rachel that actively wants a chance at a normal life, who wants a boyfriend she can hold hands with in public, who keeps up with her grades and her gymnastics practice and looks after her sisters without worrying about screaming trauma nightmares or facing death every other day. the side of rachel that bubbles up during her internal crises that's acutely terrified of the person she's becoming.

also, since Mean Rachel is about as subtle as a truck, new Nice Rachel should include the part of her that knows how to bat her eyelashes and twirl her hair enough that people think she's a vapid mallrat, because it's better that than one of the other animorphs catch onto her emotions. this would probably pretty easily work on marco, as he already sees her that way, and i think it would be fun to see cassie flustered by a pretty girl. tobias and jake would see through it easier i think, but it isnt like she cant find other tactics to prolong their inevitable questioning as long as possible. (and ax and rachel dont like each other so who knows). i mean, the girl is smart. plus this would give us a pretty clear brains vs brawn dichotomy to explore, instead of... whatever that was in the book. brawn vs complete and utter spinelessness i guess

i also think Nice Rachel being actually afraid of morphing is silly so i think Filtered Rachel should either choose not to use it specifically to distance herself from the war effort or only use it for fun purposes, because she hopes (wants, needs) Unfiltered Rachel to handle the dirty jobs. so then the two rachels' conflicts with each other is less that Mean Rachel hates Nice Rachel for existing, but that Filtered Rachel treats Unfiltered Rachel the exact same way that she accuses the others of treating her, which i feel like is more indicative of rachel's character arc..... even if itd make later entries more redundant in that regard. oh well cant win 'em all

also the mean = wears leather and nice = wears pretty dresses thing is really stupid

#animorphs #rachel #animorphs 32 the separation #also mean rachel canonically calls nice rachel a simp which is very funny now that that word has a different connotation #chattering

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homestuck reread #5: a5a2 part 1

we have finally made it out of the troll session and into the troll - human hybrid adventure that the rest of the comic will be. until more shenanigans ensue that is

look at this.... it reminds me of someone i know...... i love these two together theyre so awesome. john is sort of like if tavros had self respect

that gif of the troll guys smile slowly fading away

ahahahaah this is so awesome

there have been a ton of narrative parallels in the comic so far but this one is so much more obvious than the others. maybe because it happened right after

YEAH YOU ARE!!!!!!! HE DOESNT EVEN KNOWWW

hmmmm

HMMMMMMMMMMM

john is now vriska coded. sweeeeet

this is so funny. bro does not care at alllll

dave why do you call women crazy. do you think thats chill

HI DAVE HIIII DAVE HI IHIHI HI

what could they be referring to.......?

😎

baby daveee

cool panel. he is in the pipes

okay so right now there is a ton of shit happening. theres a bunch of daves running around his planet making fucking bank and hes also working with terezi. john is talking to vriska about getting jade in. rose is talking to kanaya about how they arent actually gonna win the game so she wants answers. jade is..... asleep. again. whats new. but she will have more to do soon im sure. and the panels are getting way cooler! look

my sons are having a meeting about GIRLS.... half of yall arent even into girls 😹😹😹

its so funny how often he fumbles. like he wants SO BADLY to come off like this hyper aggressive badass leader guy who takes no shit from anyone but just. every conversation is him utterly embarrassing himself in front of people he values the opinion of. and you know what? he is all the more the based for that. we salute you karkat

i think this one is a game!!!

that was a game alright i walked around as karkat and talked to all the trolls then did the same thing as terezi and vriska . was fun got some cool easter eggs. also some "demon" destroyed prospit so now karkat is saying that no prospit dreamers are allowed to go to sleep

this shit zoomed in GODDAMN it scared me

look at her fucking stance. she looks like shes ready to do a cart wheel or something

this art is so good man

man. him too huh. maybe its the noses. or the shading

DO NOT SEND HIM THAT VIDEO DAVE . DONT DO ITTTT PLEASE

welp. its the beginning of the end here now. i cant even remember what makes him become... what he becomes. i just remember that this was a part of it, i think?

is this bars?

REAL.... dave does not miss

poor davesprite :( one day you will become half cat troll and work out all of your personal issues

heres a really cool panel to end this part on

i feel like my commentary was lackluster in this one... mostly because im just enjoying reading. taking it all in . i think the comic has really hit its stride at this point (hehe stride) and i am looking forward to revisiting whats coming up next :p

#joff hs reread #i love beautiful art

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Zetto and/or Kizuna for the character ask?

once again for this...i shall take more if anyone wants to send

under the a cut once again!

ZETTO:

favorite thing about them: when i was a kid the kirb/zetto twist did genuinely make me insane. in a good way. i think hes a really fascinating character in his like...Mentality Switches between personas yk. guy whos a jerk in a funny way vs guy who just actually sucks

least favorite thing about them: honestly i wish it was just made more clear during like episode zero or smth what his stance in sofdti as like....a living thang was? not that it would matter much in the grand scheme of his development but idk kizuna said some SHIT yk

favorite line: id probably say like...a lot of stuff from the nylocke battle in the gemini tournament. absolute lowest point of that guy its really interesting. (obligatory MY ARM AAAAAGHHHHH mention purely because holy shit he was screaming)

brotp: HIM AND GAMESOFT oh my godd them together. aughh. the only two guys who Know the guys who can talk abt shit and he can be sad. solace in understanding and so on

otp: i know its basic but like....alphazet mannn. everything abt the two of them was PAINFULLY gay and its honestly kind of funny kirb (the guy not the character) didnt notice. runner up is him and nylocke becahse i just think they are silly and funny

notp: i dont really have anyone with him that i actively LOATHE but i think its probbably him and kizuna. putting my personal gay zetto hc aside i think theyd both be wayy too codependent unless they got like. therapy. i know a lot of what ive been saying so far makes it sound like i hate kizuna but i dont i PROMISE

random headcanon: i feel like postseries hed find a way to set gs up with a virtual machine desktop of her own so her knowledge of the world can extend beyond what she knows in tome. they spend time bonding over computer science n junk :)

unpopular opinion: im honestly never good at this part but as an adult with better drawing skills now...i actually like drawing his hair

song i associate with them: zetto was never someone i had much of a playlist for back in the day so i had to scrounge a bit but i think i found something satisfactory

favorite picture of them:

KIZUNA:

favorite thing about them: REALLY underrated secondary antagonist, interesting moral code, she has insane girlie guilt over her actions that doesnt get explored enough.....and shes a kitty cat :)

least favorite thing about them: her arc in the original series was like...a little inconclusive? i wish she couldve come to terms with sofdtis sentience and whatnot. the trajectory of a2z is changing her in a way im really liking so far though! im excited to see where she goes

favorite line: that whole rant at the tail end of the series where shes just like. a bunch of people she cared about almost died and she was freaking the fuck out. it hurts....i love her she needs THERAPYY

brotp: she doesnt get to interact with too many characters during the series but in my perfect world i think shed be chill with demonking. dont question my madness i know im right

otp: re the previous answer she doesnt interact with a lot of characters, on this note Especially im hesitant to give a definitive answer but i think if her parallels with flamey were more explored...in my perfect world.........theyd work so spicily

notp: same as zetto but also tacking gs onto this. less out of kizunas ability to see her as a person currently and more that in the future if/when she does end up coming around i do feel like gs would still be hurt by it. theyd be buddies tho:)

random headcanon: with the rpg version of tigerlily i sometimes wish that series kizuna had like...a secret lil roleplay presence. not necessarily on tome itself but she has to cool of SOMEHOW right. she made an anime catgirl avatar i KNOW she has thoughts about that shit

unpopular opinion about them: kizuna is probably the most divisive character ive done for this so far...all i can really say is like...i joke about supporting womens wrongs and stuff but i think introspectively she does have a lot of potential as a character that we dont see a lot of because most of the scenes with her are from zettos perspective. AGAIN tho im reallly liking where a2z is taking her so far i hope i get more scraps

song i associate with them: much like zetto she wasnt someone i had playlists for back in the day however unlike zetto i have the PERFECT one for her. nonexistent meet-cute (idlyam) by vylet pony.... feeling it

favorite picture of them:

#terrain of magical expertise #zetto tome #kizuna tome #cosmo.txt

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satoko567 · 6 months

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I think of all the stances I have taken in radical circles (by which i mean broadly anticapitalist, radical queer, radical feminist, etc and the intersectional ideologies that tie these varied groups together) the opinion I've consistantly gotten the most the strongest response to, both very positive and very negative, has been my stance that sexual orientation identification is social in nature First I want to make it clear that I am drawing a distinction between internal sexual attraction and the public identification of such. I am not saying that there is just no such thing as being internally or biologically or whatever queer, that would be completely absurd. This position is with regards only to publically stated sexual orientation The most apparent reason is observation: anyone in lgbt circles of any sort has a large exposure to "straight" people who have sex with the same gender, while theres also always been a large contingent of self-identified homosexual men and lesbians who have sex with the opposite gender That's not really the *point* though. Getting deeper into this idea, sexual attraction with regards to orientation is messy for a lot if not most lgbt people, and pretty much everyone struggles at some point with how to identify, and for many (I would suggest even most) lgbt people their sexual attraction and patterns of behavior dont fit cleanly into any label, or even cleanly with each other. Is the woman who is romantically attracted to men but sexually attracted to women straight, a lesbian or bisexual? What about the woman who is both sexually and romantically attracted to women but continues to have sex with men as well for her own other reasons? For many queer people, their sexual orientation identifier is just something they choose that's close enough, while for many others its a conscious choice with regards to how they want to be seen socially

Many younger people have reacted to all this by creating a mutlitude of new sexual orientation identifications in order to "be accurate" and while this is certainly a valid approach, many other lgbt people (especially older ones) prefer to use a label that will quickly communicate roughly where they're at to others and this has to also be understood as completely valid because otherwise (as generally does happen) queer people are constantly subjected to a barrage of messaging that we are "not (our identification) enough" which cannot be anything but harmful. Homosexual men and lesbians are pressured constantly to never deviate, and those who do are shamed, even if their chosen identification represents 90% of their attraction and behavior. Meanwhile bisexuals, if validated at all, are pressured to walk an exact line, and run the danger of being either"not queer enough to speak" or "looking for attention" or "partially in the closet", monogamous bisexuals often socially oscillating between the two as the gender of their current partner changes. The idea of sexual orientation identification being a social construct (again I am not saying this of sexual orientation as an internal compass) is, I believe, necessary to acknowledge in order to prevent the lgbt community from eating itself; AND it is equally necessary to acknowledge that the concept of "purity" of sexual orientation with regards to behavior is not only toxic but itself a social construct

#radical queer #queer #sexuality #intersectionality

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Also I wonder if there was a change in ff, not just in a surface story way but theme way, atleast partly, because I guess it could have been just a red hereing to insinuate that the evangelist is some eldritch alien dimmensional hopper with all the stuff with the bugs and other stars that dont really make sense with the "rhe enemy is humanity itself thing", but maybe the plot was about culutral imperialism but got chaged because of too much controverssy, thats why the invasion paralels?

As I’ll say in another post, this feels like it was Ohkubo wanting to satirize religion: “Oh, these religions have their weird creation myths full of paradoxes and stuff that makes no sense? Then my indictment against religion, Fire Force, will make its own creation myth that is so batshit crazy that it out-does the nonsense of religions overall!”

It feels weirdly immature, just Ohkubo’s goal to dunk on believers. And I say this as an agnostic: I am critical of beliefs and organized religion--but I also can make my own opinions around them by looking at the evidence myself without criticizing the need people have to believe in something, or to not believe because you don’t need beliefs to compel yourself to be a decent person.

That is what I think when you bring up the “theme way”: none of these creation myth details (the eldritch aliens, the dimensions, the bugs, the other stars) have to correlate with each other--it’s a creation myth, just make shit up. You’re Timon in The Lion King saying the sky is just full of fireflies, it makes sense to you, you get to move on. That is Ohkubo’s approach: this shit won’t make sense anyway, stop being a Yuu and be a Vulcan.

It also is like X-Files, mixing together different content from various belief systems, conspiracy theories, ancient monsters, and some legitimate science: bugs are aliens, there are other dimensions, stars used to be planets, and so on.

“The enemy is humanity itself”: I’ll bring this up in Ohkubo’s paradoxically puritanical stance on sex, but there is such misanthropy in this work.

(I got to find the source again, but Ohkubo had said he was indeed a misanthrope. Maybe it was sarcasm in his end-of-volume notes?)

For all of how Shinra inspires people at the end, this is a pretty cynical story that thinks humans are awful. (If our world leads to the Fire Force world, the implication that stuff like the nuclear bombing of Japan and stuff like 9/11 led to this world seems gross--it’s taking real-life horrors to fuel his fiction, not in a way to comment about what led to those horrors but just shock value and edginess without meaning.)

Even the “cultural imperialism” angle seems muddled.

We have Benimaru and others resisting what is portrayed as a Euro-centric Christo-centric indoctrination of Japan.

We end the manga with the pre-Soul Eater world. Now Akitaru and others are using Japanese naming conventions (family name first, personal name last), and by the time we get to Soul Eater the rest of the world seems to be in Lord Death’s image--and all speaking Japanese.

There is something odd here, as if the story is placing Japan as having become the superpower of the world. It’s no longer America and the English language as the dominant force--thanks to the world being reborn starting in Japan thanks to Shinra, Japan is on top.

This should be a re-staging of the opening to this manga: we started with this multicultural Japan but one in which a western religion and western conventions had pushed out Japanese cultural practices. We can show an actual multiculturalism that is not erasure but presence of all…and instead it weirdly feels like it is Japanese domination over everything else?

That should be a meaningful satire to criticize westerners thinking they control everything--but it comes off to me anyway as just “the shoe is on the other foot now”: there isn’t observation for how Japan as the global leader would be good and bad, it is presented as just what it is, no reflection on the ramifications of this. It isn’t a taking down of the US or western nations or Christianity for awful things they have done; it’s just something that happens to explain why all the people in Death City speak Japanese--a question almost no one cared to ask because it’s a manga made in Japan, of course the characters in your story all speak Japanese, who cares.

#long post

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i don't disagree with your critiques about iwtv (although fwiw everyone i've been following has been critical of the source material and anne rice), but i think framing "good leftism" as based around response to representation and whether or not you eat at chick-fil-a is really unhelpful. leftism is about improving the material conditions of working class & marginalized people, and for most of us that looks like attending to what's going on our local community. at this point im very hesitant to equate representation with material improvement in conditions, given the places our media comes from are inherently corrupted by wealth and power and have every incentive to maintain the status quo. the representation we have only exists because it is profitable, and i dont want my liberation to happen because it's "profitable." that's not real liberation.

again, i don't disagree with your critiques. i would just caution against equating having good media opinions with good politics. being critical matters, but my opinions of people's politics doesn't live or die based on whether or not they hate the right tv shows.

I just used leftists as a general term to avoid repeatedly saying "people" or the plural "you". it wasn't really meant as a political critique, more of a rant where I wanted to point out how it's a hypocritical behavior on the parts of the people I'm singling out. I completely agree with you and I also do not want my liberation to be profitable or commodified. it was more just an open ended rant focused on seeing people who claim to be anti racist praise racist media time and time again. also I'm not sure who you've been following, becquse I've had several people both post about and msg me directly blindly praising the source material and acting blissfully unaware of its bigotry. it's nice to know at least some people are mindfully consuming media but unfortunately it seems like a large subsection of white queer fans simply aren't engaging in that kind of behavior. I know what leftism is and how activism works, and I engage in things like the examples you mentioned myself. I appreciate your warning and I agree with your points but I really didn't mean it at some jab at leftists. I was just aggravated and used a word to describe a part of the group that my frustration was targeted at. it was a vent post, not a political critique, and I changed the one use of the word "leftist" to replace it with white queer people, since that's more representative the group I'm upset with. I don't really think an individuals taste in media is indicative of their political stance, and I'm very active in my community and open minded irl, but the hypocrisy of the blind praise I kept stumbling across on my dash was frustrating and I made a vent post in response to that and that alone. watch what you want. formulate any opinion you want. but I just find it annoying when I see so many people being uncritical of the media they consume despite claiming that they are. that's all I was complaining about. not politics.

#asks #it was a vent post

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This anon.

Pro-ship is a term that is used for people inclusive and judgment-free towards your ship even if they dont like it themself for whatever reason, they believe a person is valid and still a person no matter the fictional ship. Pro-ship and even neutrals will block what ship they don't like and don't agree with such dynamics.

Neutrals as well shouldn't harrass said person because of their ship but instead simply block- not report unless its deemed appropriate by all means. - neutrals I personally know, at least. Neutrals arent really verbal about these things and that's completely understandable so I could only go by my and mutual stances by friends.

I agree ! I'm the same way which is why I stay away from the terms out of anon because people have a strict ideology of them and it isnt always correct. I recently commented on something of a anti-ship post that spread the wrong definition of pro-ship by saying it's a "pedophilia likers" and simply answered the questions asking what it was by what I told you, but only the pro-ship, and got myself blocked by the curator, which is all fair but not to the people being misinformed.

Again though, I doubt I have all the information for much more questions but if you have any, I'd love to answer ♡

i definitely have been blocking lately 😭 yeah misinformation is very harmful to communities like that but sometimes people just don't want to listen. they'll hear what they want and unfortunately sometimes that's impossible to change </3 i think groups like that often come under fire from people completely excluded from fandom spaces altogether as well, which makes things tough. like the furry community's hate does not come nearly as much from other fandoms or structured communities as it does from tiktok teenagers, young kids given internet access too early, or older people who are fed up with their kid having their own opinions. sometimes when the rest of the world stumbles upon a fandom bad shit happens

#mei's mail

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hi!!! this is all in good faith and please dont take this as an attack (also sorry for my english LOL its not my native lang). i’m /gen curious about your response to this, im open to all any opinions that can push me to change my mind.

right, i just want to start off by saying that fundamentally bipartisan system in the us sucks and i get it. i also know its scary to think about republicans being the main power in electoral politics.

anyways… be it the congress or president, you are not really voting for people, you are voting for some kind of lobby. political system in the us is a money machine.

and whereas social issues (lgbt, abortion, feminism) are only used as chess pieces and can be pushed all over the board, left or right, and be freely used to create propaganda and keep fearmongering in order to gain more voters (as republicans certainly do), that’s not the case with anything that has to do with the economy or us financial and political interest internationally.

every president, and every party wants to preserve the position of the us as an empire. and that’s required of them. they need to preserve the empire, in order to have more influence, to stimulate the economy, to get cheeper natural resources.

the current genocide going on in palestine is a matter of million (billion? idk u guys use the numbers name in a diff way) of dollars. it’s not a matter of not supporting the genocide for them, its a matter of investment for them, thats will make them a LOT of money.

that’s why the only way to make sure democrats will never again support genocide again is to take away the electoral support! that’s the only way! because otherwise, the polls will show that the support of a genocide cannot stop them from making money!

and i’m sorry, i don’t mean to sound insensitive, but there isn’t a genocide going on in the us. not in a literal sense at least.

shit sucks, and i know that, but i think you guys HAVE TO survive a couple of years of a shithead in the office if that means showing a huge decrease of support for democrats, the only thing that will make sure that democrats elected in the future will not take actions to support a genocide lol.

anyways, i hope u have a good day <3 take care

you have some good points! and i want to establish that i'm not actually from the USA at all, so this is coming from someone whos looking at US politics from the outside. i agree that threatening to withdraw electoral support might be the only way to push democrats left -- my problem isn't with people telling politicians they're not going to vote blue unless they change their stance on israel. my problem is with people on this website encouraging other leftists to abstain and saying voting does nothing. let's be real, politicians don't look at tumblr dot com. joe biden isn't seeing what anyone says about him here. the only effect this discourse will have is making people unwilling to vote democrat even if the situation changes. even if it becomes clear that that would be the best strategy. not only that, but i'm already seeing people who claim to be leftist defending trump and claiming biden is infinitely worse just based on him supporting israel, as if trump would be any less pro-israel if he was president. let's be realistic, please. you know trump would be just as bad if not worse. vote for better candidates in the primaries; absolutely do threaten democrats with loss of electoral support. but if it comes down to biden VS trump or biden VS desantis again, i really do think it would be irresponsible to abstain or to vote third party considering the current political environment in the united states.

#this will probably be the last time i actually engage with anons about this #if you want to discuss this further you can dm me or send another ask off anon so i can reply privately #im not interested in making this a discourse blog #and there are already enough people calling me slurs in my inbox #so i dont want to draw more attention to myself. thanks for being nice!#asks #anon #us politics

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If ur not up for your blog to become a discussion hub you can delete this ask but notthatalex' analogy of "but for some reason, people are really scared to roast you, excluding you entirely from that dynamic" I don't think quite makes sense. Within a friend group there Will be healthy boundaries. So therefore there should be some too when we joke to an audience. People roast and joke their friends because they know each other, have given the ok and know they dont hold ill will - if that isn't the case there's a clear problem that should be ideally addressed! Comedians like the ones in Smosh have a platform which I think is ok to demand it to be used responsibly. There's a difference in making a joke where the punchline is "get it ? it's a gay guy, that's funny on its own" and making a joke that happens to include gay guys/their experience for example. Also as much as we want them to, jokes can't exist in a political void. It's already been well documented that memes, jokes, comedy can be absolutely used as a propaganda tool and that some "jokes" are actually meant to represent the creator's political stance. A good example from not too long ago is Sacha Baron Cohen who lately appeared in the news for his Zionist beliefs, while he's built his career around making fun of "arabs" that people have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for for years saying it's "satire".

I mean my intention was never to be a discussion hub, but only because I never expected anyone to care enough about what I have to say to send me asks. So sure, let's do this!

But yeah, I would say I'm a bit more in favor of restricting comedians than Alex, but I think what you're saying is kind of misreading him. He made it pretty clear that there are good jokes and bad jokes you can make about anything. And my biggest opinion is, aside from the fact that yes, "I'm a gay guy and that's funny on its own" is problematic... It's also not funny. If you ask me, the biggest thing that makes something funny is surprise. And bigoted jokes are hacky. They're not creative. "Haha this group is bad/weird" is a thing we've all heard before. It's not unfunny when my family makes a joke about Chinese people eating dogs because it's racist, even though it very much is, it's unfunny because I've heard that joke a million times.

But I think the friendship example is actually perfect because roasting a friend requires knowledge of said friend beyond hacky stereotypes, so it's going to have to go beyond easy bigoted jokes. Again, I do agree with Alex in the sense that you can joke about anything, but you've got to do it well. And again, bigoted jokes just aren't funny. They're all overplayed. The only reason people find them funny is because they agree with them.

And yeah, it does suck to be the person in the friendgroup who feels like they're being treated with kid gloves. It's all about knowing people's lines. I know seeing the TNTL roasts of Angela made me so uncomfortable at first because I basically am Angela and the particular points they were hitting are things I'm super sensitive about. So if I were her, I would have felt like absolute shit. And then I saw her say how much that made her happy because she felt seen, and how it meant so much to her. And that's made me actually really embrace that view of it and encourage my friends to roast me like that. Because you know what? This is who I am, and I do want you all to see me in my cringe glory. Because being cringe is a good thing. So like, to me, that's what Alex is saying. You've got to know the lines, but imagine how it'd look if they never went after Angela.

Also I don't exactly keep up with Cohen, but I have seen... Whatever the name of that movie was over my brother's shoulder and needless to say, it was a yikes and I don't know how we let anyone who made it say he was at all progressive. I mean, to be fair, of course it was a yikes. If my dad likes a thing, that's always a red flag.

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