#i mean. she sounds like a real person.

[kittynette]

*marinette noises intensify*

marinette’s voice appreciation post because i’ve never seen one on tumblr<3

#name: marinette. best quality: her screeches<3 #miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #everyone’s always praising adrien’s voice actor and for a good reason don’t get me wrong! but no one ever talks about #marinette’s voice actress #and how good she is #like. she IS marinette. i can’t even imagine her not sounding like this #i mean i personally find her voice super pleasant to listen to #even when she’s stuttering even when she’s screeching even when she’s making strange noises #i’ve loved her voice since the start #she can sound angry and sweet and determined but never annoying even when the character is supposed to sound a bit crazy #and she never uses a fake high-pitched tone #i mean. she sounds like a real person. #so i can’t understand why she doesn’t get that much love from the fandom?? #because really #who’s doing it like her #video #mine

[royalarchivist]

Mine: Refer to me however you want!

Mike: Yeah, for me too. I think I use all pronouns too.

[They high-five and fist-bump each other]

Mine:

[via @barbmine]

#Mine #Barbmine #Mikethelink #Mike #I LOVE THEMMMMMMMMMMM THEY'RE SO FUNNY #Mine funniest person alive fr #also YOOOO LETS GO?????? #I didn't know Mike was ok with any pronouns #and Mine too??? that's awesome! #Also for those who don't know: Mine is Mike's wife! #They're both bi #They're so cool I wanna have a silly sweet partnership like this someday *clenches fist and stares off into the sunset* #As per usual: not a native Portuguese speaker so can't translate the full thing #please feel free to hop in with translations and/or corrections! #Though I'm pretty confident about these. Wouldn't post it if I wasn't #I'll be real idk how to translate viado LMAO #It's like. Not what google translate will tell you it means #idk imo I think ''homo'' sounds right but ONCE AGAIN: I'm not a Portuguese speaker #Poor Mine I laughed when she first posted this image ages ago and I replied to her saying it gave me a good laugh and she was like #''WAIT I PROMISE IT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT GOOGLE TRANSLATE SAYS IT MEANS'' #it's all good Mine I'm bi too I am not phased lmao #I don't personally use that word but I do not care when other queer folks use it

[blueskittlesart]

deeply refreshing to see someone critical of Swift who also like, genuinely likes her. Like i'm neutral to positive on her, but the online discourse has been absolutely rancid. flipping between "Taylor Swift has never done anything wrong ever and she's a fucking genius" and "Taylor Swift is the worst lyricist of all time and also a bad person" is exhausting, so thank you for like. nuance or something lmao

not to make it serious for a sec but i genuinely think that being able to like things that are bad is really important. like I think that it's an important skill to be able to look at something and see what you personally enjoy about it and then take a step back and acknowledge that objectively it's flawed. and to also be able to acknowledge that liking something isn't necessarily an identity or a moral stance. and i think that fandom space in general could really benefit from more people taking the time to learn how to do that. it's okay to like things that are bad

#people ask me sometimes why ill occasionally talk about something i like and then go 'but it's bad' and the answer is usually because it is #i love teen wolf. i love genshin impact. i love detective conan. and i fucking LOVE taylor swift. that doesnt mean theyre good #it just means i like them. and recognizing their flaws actually helps me better identify what i like about them! #it's like. in my mind bad > good is the x axis and i like it > i dont like it is the y axis yk. they're not mutually exclusive #tldr it's not that serious. we can all relax a little #irt taylor swift i do also think she has done some real harm to her fans in enabling them to deflect all criticism of her as misogyny #and i don't think it's fully the fault of these people who are parroting that response bc so much of her marketing has deliberately #reinforced this idea that to be a swiftie is to be a part of a sisterhood and that any attack on taylor is an attack on all of those women #who are in that in-group. when that's obviously not the case. but she's marketed herself as. for lack of a better term. 'girl music' #to the point where it makes her fans feel as though any criticism of the music or the woman responsible for it is an attack on their #personal experience of womanhood/girlhood/sisterhood/etc. and that's how you get all of thess bad-faith accusations of misogyny #i don't necessarily think this was her deliberate goal with her marketing tho because like. on first glance such a strong sense of communit #among fans sounds like a great thing. the friendship bracelets i got at the eras tour movie are really genuinely special to me. #but it does present a problem when your fans are unable to separate how they feel about the community and experience your music has fostere #from how they feel about you as a person. especially when you are a billionaire who absolutely CANNOT be above criticism in this economy #anyway. tldr i love taylor's music and i don't think swiftie hivemind is as deliberately malicious as it may seem #but it's obviously necessary to be able to take a step back and look objectively at what you're participating in. #anyway stream ttpd or don't idc <3 #taylor swift

[transmascutena]

these lines hit different when you read utena as transmasc

#i mean the first one is really awful regardless. #pretty sure i read somewhere that the words akio uses means something along the lines of 'you really should remain a child' #as opposed to 'you really should remain the gender that you are.' which speaks to his whole thing about keeping these kids from growing up #and there's So Much in anthy's line even without hypothetical misgendering #anyway the au where utena has already transitioned by the time he gets to ohtori is really good #and i of course have lots of headcanons about post-ohtori utena and gender #but i've been thinking about one where he's actively questioning while he's there and is not out to anyone. #and i guess not a lot would really change but akio's attempt at making utena more feminine would have a whole other layer of awful to it #and unfortunately i think in this scenario the first person he would come out to would be akio. which is so sad #like maybe it could be anthy but idk. i think it would be something he'd be apprehensive to be open about with her #(in the show utena does tend to be more vulnerable with akio than with anthy. at least the vulnerability with him comes first. #he's her go-to person for advice in the black rose arc and utena doesn't really begin opening up to anthy like that until the third arc) #maybe i should write something for this au. i can see it so clearly. #utena talking about his confusing gender feelings in one of those black rose scenes in the planetarium #and akio doing that thing where he sounds supportive and helpful but absolutely isn't. #that fake sympathy that's actually really patronizing and condescending and dismissive but subtly enough that utena doesn't realize it #and THEN the contrast when utena finally talks to anthy about it and she empathises by talking about her own confusing gender feelings #(transfem anthy realness !!!!!) #oh wow i did not mean to write so much in the tags #revolutionary girl utena #utena tenjou #my posts

[ante--meridiem]

To socialise or not to socialise, that is the question.

#Looked at two places I could move out to & they are complete opposite vibes in terms of socialableness #Both have roommates ofc but one gives me a lot more of my own space & it seems like I would barely have to interact with them at all #So I'd be left pretty much completely alone. Which is usually the dream #And ngl knowing the other people there would keep to themselves & have no interest in knowing me is especially relieving #Given the whole thing that pushed me to move out in the first place #The other has extremely small & cozy vibes. Owner's stuff all over the place #By cozy I do mean cluttered #The girl I met with there (not the person I'd be renting from) gave me a tour for five-ten mins #And then the next 30 mins-60 mins we spent chatting over tea #Someone more sociable than me might call it instant bestie vibes #Which. Has been something I've kind of very much been missing/yearning for irl I will admit #& from the sound of it the person subletting has the same vibes with her #She says he's 'interesting' and 'I'd like him' #From the combination of her description and the clutter I'm getting eccentric professor vibes #Which is generally a good vibe to me #But I am even more skittish of renting from someone t #Too sociable #After prev landlord #Though I want to trust othet tenant's vibe check. Because it might actually be very nice to have some kind of real life friends #It's also a very different kind of sociable than prev landlord #She was 'chatty and gets you to open up easily' sociable & it sounds like the other guy will be approximately the same #& also 'repeatedly assures you can ask her to stop if she's being too much' sociable. Which is always a relief #Meanwhile prev landlord was 'wants to know why you're not relaxed & tells you you should be without doing anything to help you be' sociable #'gets very pushy about finding time to talk/hang out' sociable #'teases you for being awkward' sociable #None of which were the real issue with him of course. But they didn't help & I can't help but see them as red flags in retrospect #I'm currently leaning towards 'to socialise' because it was a very cosy vibe & I do feel starved of irl friendship just a bit #But it could either be very good or very bad #& I don't want to risk very bad again #Anyway. This has been missives from a pizza shop I ducked into to charge my phone before I go back to being lost in a snowstorm

[perilegs]

ok i might need to force myself to not romance astarion bc i don't want to know what it says about me to turn down karlach, the woman of my dreams, the character made to cater me personally, like, if she was real i'd bring the moon and stars down for the chance to see her smile, she's everything i've hoped for in a rpg companion, what does it say about me if i turn that down for someone like astarion

#ngl karlach would be too good for me and i wouldnt deserve it #shed probably ask me stuff like 'what do you want?' upon which i would be paralyzed with fear my mind completely blank unable #to process why i can't answer a simple question #and she's so up front with her emotions which i absolutely adore but i could not reciprocate that #wait am i actually for real avoiding the karlach romance bc i feel like this fictional character from a video game is too good for me #a real human being. like. i think i would feel guilty about romancing her #which makes no sense bc i romance characters too good for anyone all of the time. but idk #in those cases ive always had like a strong character i play as who is very divorced from who i am #but playing as durge there is no past so idk who my tav is yet so all i can do is project so he feels very. personal #im v sleepy and also ive had brain fog all day so yea idk #i mean i do genuinely like astarion and his character but in his case i dont feel guilty bc i feel like i #i have no idea how to finish that sentence without it sounding like 'i can fix him' #bc i dont want to fix him i want to show him compassion and respect him and his boundaries so he'll be able to reclaim tje feeling of #being in control of his life #so he'll stop putting people down to feel like hes on a pedestal #like i get him and why he is like that but i just feel like being kind and caring towards him would feel so good #it wouldnt fix him and thats a good thing bc i dont want him to change who he is but i do think he needs support #also hes hot im so mad at myself for being so atteacted to him #we wouldnt b here if i didnt have a thing for voices #besides thag back to the main point of astarion its like. ugh! im so frustrated rn bc i dont have the words #to express my emotions toward him bc everything ive said lacks the nuance that im feelikg but idk how to put it in words #i guess i want to protect him? that such a terrible sentence and still not what om going for

[gentlethorns]

god i forgot what it feels like to really be INVOLVED in a story. to have it brewing in the back of your mind on a simmer instead of some spontaneous combustion infatuation that eventually burns down to a dead end. it is so fulfilling knowing i'm going to go home from work and jump back into it, and to know exactly my next step. i genuinely have not felt this way about writing since high school like i'm healed

#she bork #sorry ik i keep talking about it but i love to yap and i am so so full of joy. like this development is so huge for me. it's like it filled #that part of me that's always restless and seeking some greater purpose than daily life #like when i say i haven't felt this way since high school i mean it. and i don't mean like late high school either i mean like sophomore #year. that's almost a DECADE AGO. a decade since i've been able to see a vision so clearly and anticipate the scene i'm going to write when #i get home and build a story from the ground up with a strong foundation. like i literally feel whole again like i haven't been a complete #person this whole time. lol this all sounds dramatic as fuck but it's real like i can't stress enough how excited and like fulfilled i feel #novel 2024

[moinsbienquekaworu]

I've gone from insane about the pilot when it dropped and so so into it to mildly interested and kind of cringing at the actual first episode. 4 years's not a lot but I feel like I got old

#i'm talking about h@zbin h0tel btw. i refuse for this to appear in the tags this is a mutuals only post #like. i was sooo into the pilot in high school #and now it's uh. i can see the strings and there's a lot of them #by that i mean i see what they're trying to do and how they're trying to do it #instead of the techniques having the intended effect and being seamless #the swearing is.... a bit tedious. the singing was mych better in the pilot than it is in ep1 #i am also the one person on earth who doesn't like v@ggie's va i think? #her sound quality is Different and she sounds like a real person talking to a friend #which you'd think is good but actually it sounds Off for a show #also like the characters... cringe. this throws me back to when i thought this was the height of cool and it doesn't work for me #what gets me is it's pretty tied to its fanbase compared to what i usually engage with #like. it got big based on the fanbase and the reaction to the pilot is the vibe i get #and the fans are.... teenagers? who think this is the height of cool? #which. when i was like 15 i was so into this. but i am Not 15 Anymore. #and i don't want to be around 15yos who don't like the same things in media as me #man this makes me feel old and i was born after 9/11. like. i'm not old. i'm young! #but this makes me feel ancient. like i'm an old no-fun allowed cat lady #wow i have a ramble tag now

[harrykim]

my love for reading bad fanfiction versus my highly developed sense of cringe. who will win because it sure isn't me!

#yes i purposely read bad fanfic sometimes #*not like de/ad d/ove bad stuff i mean like. #the poorly written trope nonsense that was def actually written in 2008 despite what the upload date says #those insanely strange mega crossover things that just throw a bunch of characters into a Situation that makes no sense #the ones where characters just explain the entire canon storyline outloud to strangers including all their secrets n very personal moments #the wish fullfillment stuff. all of that. its so. #sometimes ill find stuff that i genuinely rly like actually. but often its just a test of endurance for myself #how long will my love for genuine absurdity last against the she would not fucking say that instinct #like. its just. all so genuine. and some of it is actually not bad at all n just sounds like it would be but has like #and understanding of the characters that works or some interesting ideas to play with #its why i come back to it. #to clarify i do in fact also read good fanfic and also gasp. real published books too. #im just in a phase rn <3

[lilgynt]

my dad called me his guardian angel and that i have more patience than my mom and i know i told myself he just says shit but like that actually helped cause same day he was like i do not want to be alone with you and ur crazy so like. that did help a lot!

#personal #he doesn’t mean it and apologizes when his mind comes back to him but like #still good to remember during the bad moments #and this will sound horrible but #it’s not bad. per say. #when he says the nice stuff #but sometimes i do get an uncomfortable spike of anger #it’s like he says stay with me don’t leave help me or calls me nice names like guardian angel or something else #and it’s a flash of anger like im not made for you i don’t exist just for you #and obviously he doesn’t mean that #but hearing that from the guy you’re basing ur whole life around for the past few months #who due to things out of his control and frankly some of his own nature can get pretty nasty #and god im pretty sure it’s just the demita and anxiety but he’s so needy #like my mom can’t get any sleep or space around him #and my dads acting like their married with all aspects and my moms allowing it bc she has her own complicated feelings on the matter #but mostly for him so that’s cool to watch in real time #also watching the stats of how marriage benefits men and not women while my dead sucks the life out of my mom #like he doesn’t mean to but he doesn’t let her relax sleep eat anything like she took a week off work to clean the house & take care of him #and not to martyr my mother cause love her sympathize with her she is still. her. #but no one deserves what she’s going through and i will never have a bad word to say about how she acted during all of this #other things? fuck yeah but this no she handled it like a saint #and she’s been treating me better too so that’s nice #but anyway so fucking needy. i can hear them talking rn bc my dad wakes my mom up to reassure himself #i mean last night i was with him for five hours never left and if i did i warned him. he goes to bed. wakes up screaming my name #not his fault he wants to be reassured but jesus #i mean you go to the kitchen or bathroom from the living room and he says hurry back and interrupts you mid wipe #i’m a little spoiled bc he lets me go to my room some days but my mom doesn’t have any luck #he should get better with meds hopefully #and then worst of all you’ll #okay literally stopped typing bc my dad wouldn’t let my mom sleep and she freaked 😭😭😭 i talked him into just laying down but for how longuh

[peterpandiedtoday]

yoo haven’t said gxd is real in a whole while but wowie i really didn’t think i’d get to see vienna cass as bomba, sth i’ve wanted since i learned she was a bomba cover. somehow managed to catch her deme three times but never bomba and thought oh well, maybe it’s not meant to be. but no. it was. and it was good. she was suuch a good bomba, so cute but also so very sexy. and tinyy. aah. and i did think her voice would be a good fit for bomba and it was!! aaah. so good so good so good

#personal Davy #she also had a thing going with skimble in the beginning where at first he nuzzled her during the pyramid part and then at the beginning of #naming they were holding each other's hands and when they got into the naming.. crowd position she reached back to him with both hands #was v cute but then i uh may have forgotten skimble existed... until his song #she was also sosososososoooo cute with alonzo. who was making biscuits for half a second on cori's butt and then crawled over to her #during gus and put his head in her lap nd stretched out and she just. softly stroked his neck and back until they had to leave bc growltiger #carbucketty randomly slow scratched bill bailey's chest who was so stunned all he could do when he regained composure was bat at #his ear and quickly scurry off #and during mac scare 1 aka mungorumpel bill bailey pressed against munk's leg who then put his arm around him real tight #oooh and bomba didn't let tugger f her during the ball. got lifted put down and Ran. which.. tugger was hxrny today.. tried it with everyone #and immediately went to lift deme off the tube and get it on with her buttt she ran off to join the ball a second later too #and during the mating dance part he.. uhm. when they lay down. he loudly slapped cori's butt? and i was like haha sure do what you must #but then he proceeded to very intensely.. massage? the butt? like.. Very intensely. very.. covering all bits of a cheek.. and .. crack.. #he also Had to press his leg between munk's in the oven which wasn't helped by munk guiding him forward by his hips earlier #he also did the romantic line with misto holding him tight and getting their faces together. and did a suggestive mouth thing with cass tail #then again when munk was trying to help him sit back up he just kept lying there while munk confusedly poked at his thigh #rumpel and mungo were very v v cute during gus too with mungo lying in rumpel's lap back to chest and rumpel had her arms around him #which doesn't sound special in writing but it looked soo sweet and comfortable and familiar just ugh i love #oh yea munk tripped over the lamp when he ran to the old deut decoy and got distracted for a while. old deut's back? nah i f ing tripped #who cares about the imposter. jelly had to come and fix it and put the mean little lamp in its place

[milkweedman]

In retrospect i think this was actually a pretty damn good price ($50 USD). The second i pulled it out of the basket the owner took it and squashed it down immediately (apparently she thought i was flying with it, no idea why though) so i really didnt have time to see how big it was. But i fluffed it up for a minute before i started driving home again and i guess it expanded during the (very long) drive bc its uh. Massive now. Takes up more space than i do on the couch. And i tried to weigh it real quick (on my wool scale which is in fact just a food scale that i dont use for food) and even with it not all fitting and probably partially resting on the floor it was about 2 pounds (just under a kilo).

And its apparently somewhat sunny at home today so i think i might try and wash it, since i dont need to boil lanolin out or anything. And i un dislocated all the joints that popped out when driving and drank a lot of coffee (in retrospect. Old coffee) so im gonna just give some of it a try now i suppose ? Might even try dyeing it soon ...

#watching the owner compact it and mash together all the locks was very 😥 but i had literally no idea what to say #anyway i mean its not like i was planning on spinning it lock by lock anyway but the locks were so clear and defined ... #and theyre not anymore. a baffling thing to do to wool that someone just bought ? #ah well. #also every time i go on the chronic pain subreddit to complain i get at least one person with ehlers danlos #telling me that it sounds exactly like ehlers danlos #its not that i disagree (i dont) but i completely blew that rheumatologist appointment i finally had a few months back #by 1) not bringing it up at all bc i forgot 2) not even bringing up all the dislocations again because i forgot #and 3) forgetting what she wanted me to do in terms of tests and shes way out of network at a different hospital group #so its not online in a way that i can access it. so now i have no idea what to do #i guess i could call her office and admit that i was mid-migraine when i saw her and forgot to say pretty much everything i was supposed to #and also forgot pretty much everything she said #i really dont wanna. but also i am literally a fucking delivery driver and this is like the 5th time in a row #that i dislocated my hip from driving so its becoming a real problem #my joints are mostly not very bendy but i also am absurdly tensed all the time and i think thats kinda. holding my joints in place #instead of the stuff that is actually supposed to do that #and then also as soon as i so much as look at em wrong they just come out of place #so painful haha. #anyway ! alpaca time. luckily if my joints come out from use then laying down for a while usually makes them #go back in themselves pretty quick. which like i think making the area relax does that for most people anyway #but its convenient for me bc i used to have to put my shoulders back in all the time as a kid and i hated it so much it was awful #so them just being so fugitive that they come in and out just for funsies all the time anyway is actually somewhat of an improvement #hm Anyway. gotta do the dishes ig so i can just wash this thing in the sink i think ? #chronic illness #wool prep #raw wool #alpaca #(i know alpaca fiber isnt wool but. my tagging system...)

[stuckinakillingjar]

just realized that i fucking hate headcanoning characters as siblings

#i literally wrote like 10 tags ranting about why i hate people hc sns as brothers but like that wasn't my point #actually a bucci gang post inspired me to post this because i saw someone call fugo and narancia or giorno and mista or narancia and trish #siblings and it does not feel right to me like #i love love love the gang as found family but to me that term never really entailed the whole siblinghood thing #for me found family always meant people OUTSIDE of the character's actual family being there for them and caring for them #like they're not real siblings they shouldn't call each other that #omg this is incredibly weird and a totally subjective opinion just fyi like feel free to disagree with me #but like i personally have a younger brother and i always feel incredibly uncomfortable calling people outside of him brother or sister #like my best friend once said to me that she thinks of me as a sister and internally i was like nooooo don't say that #or my literal cousin said that she wished we were sisters and i was like uhhhh #I DON'T KNOW THIS IS WEIRD TO EXPLAIN #to me (in fiction) it's just a way more beautiful concept that you're both bounded by fate and meant to be with each other #or have incredibly obvious parallels #idk why i keep thinking about narancia and trish but like #that one scene where narancia goes 'trish is me. i am trish. her wounds are my wounds' or something like that #ig it's just me finding the concept of soulmates and fate more interesting than just headcanoning characters as siblings #omg don't assume that i hate my little brother after this post btw i would die for him just fyi but this is gonna sound mean 💀 #with siblings you're kind of already stuck with each other right from the start like there's no escape unless you're like completely #abandoning you're family #you're kind of forced to love them #but with sasuke and naruto or narancia and trish for example it's like #naruto and narancia saw the parallels in sasuke and trish they saw the hurt and they chose to follow them #they weren't born in a family they aren't bound by blood they just kind of chose to love them #this post is a whole lot of nothing no one will get what i mean anyways 😭 #i'll just stop now #nica.talks #jjba #golden wind #just to clear that up this is a different scenario when we're talking about characters or people that are adopted like omg #my hcs

[opens-up-4-nobody]

...

#listen. im just gonna rant abt something real dumb for a sec #the framing of missing 411 stories make me so annoyed. and if u dont kno. missing 411 stories are focused on ppl who went missing in #national parks or just out in nature with no real explanation. i dont even kno why i watch these videos they just make me mad #theyre not all bad but like mother fucker do u not kno how easy it is to get lost in thr fucking woods? #theyre like: this person was an experienced hiker. they wouldnt have just done X #like no. fuck off. it only takes one bad move. one bad day. one unexpected run in and boom that's it #its not that crazy???? its not magic or bigfoot. its ppl getting confused or disoriented and panicking #i mean. obvously not in every case but fucking im like 99% sure its not spooky stuff. its just easier than youd like to think to get lost #my little sister got lost in the woods when she was like 6. she took a wrong turn on a hiking path and walked so far my dad almost turned #back bc he thought she would never get that far but there she was. one tiny blip in a big big forest and she was on a path #its so so easy to miss one tiny point out there. this also goes for places out in the desert #like sure its flat. how could a person get lost in an open space? but no fuck u. ive gotten lost walking along a 50m flat transect #i looked up and for about a minute i wasnt where i thought i was. the heat and not drinking or eating enough can really mess with you head #ugh. i dunno. one of my lab mates has done more like serious outdoors stuff. like not going back to civilization for weeks doing field #work out in Colorado. and he says there is something weird about being alone out there. like some places have a call to them. a temptation #compelling you to do things u kno r bad ideas. but i also pressed him and it seems to come from a lack of othet ppl watching you #like a lack of socal constraint enables the temptation to make reckless choices. so like i dunno it sounds more like a human thing #than the supernatural but like what do i kno? anyway. missing 411 stories make me man #mad. god. there was one i watched where the guys were like. hm they seem to happen around weird places like swamps. or around bad weather #events. so maybe these places or events cause disappearances to happen. like fucking no! do u hear what ur saying????? #the disappearences occure around places that are objectively difficult to search under conditions that delay search effort????? is ur brain #broken? the bad conditions make it hard to find ppl so u find less ppl and theyre marked as missing. jesus christ #anyway. its baffling to me. but i keep watching thr videos. probably bc i have nightmares about running into wild animals out in the woods #so im searching for like. god what not to do if i get lost in the woods. when what i shoukd do is watch survival videos rip #unrelated #ugh. also ive done some work in a national park where u would think its super super hard to get lost but our fieldwork got delayed bc ppl #had to go do search and rescue and the person was dead by the time they were found. i dont kno the details but like its a thing that #happens. its not that crazy #not to mention all the dumb fucks who fall of the cliffs every year down where i grew up. every fucking year. it happened to one of our #neighbors. he was at the bottom of this cliff for a whole day and survived. i dunno bad things happen everyday. u r not immune