#i watched hsm 1 and 2 while making this

[moreofthatdrowse]

JO Survey: What's a favorite JO moment of yours? Could be very small or something big

There were too many good answers in the questions with open answers in my Joker Out Survey, so below the cut are the answers to Question no. 14: What's a favorite JO moment of yours? Could be very small or something big

When bojan exists but also when they sung the boys are back from HSM in an interview in all the languages

Nace & Bojan completing my heart hands thing at a concert :) (& Nace showing the heart on his bass in my direction )

sparklative, the turtle interview, every interaction between jan and nace (it's hard to pick a favourite)

It's so hard to choose! Aside from repeating what I said before, I'll say I love them doing stuff with pride flags during concerts, and them hanging out together during Novi Val. Also them just wearing each others clothes. And the whole thing with Because of You during Eurovision. And Bojan singing Cha Cha Cha. And Tavastia. And Kris during the Katrina video whirling around his jacket. Ok I can't choose and I can go on forever.

When Nace started talking about his turtles

kris being a hater 🫶

how dare you make me pick one smh i guess the performance of novi val in Glasgow with the pride flag i dotn get emotional about artists raising pride flags in general even tho im queer but that specific moment in a CHURCH with THAT song made me sob

I can't choose so I've got 3: 1. WHY THIS HAS BEEN SO HAS BIVEN SPARKLY?! SPARKLING?! SPARKLATIVE?!?!?! 2. the interview where they talk about Nace's turtles ("shiiiit, they don't like to be pet!") 3. every time Bojan and Kris banter with each other 😭 and I saw this irl too when I was at their concert in London and Kris wouldn't stop playing his guitar whilst Bojan was trying to tune his

I've really enjoyed watching the behind the scenes video series' from Eurovision and the tour.

It's a tie between (i) pretty much any interview they've ever done and (ii) the Cvetličarna concert (didn't attend but have watched the footage)

Them comforting Käärijä together after his loss

Bojan's thighs lol

I really like drunk Kris at Barcelona preparty screaming "OH, SSF!" and dancing like the tall tree he is 🤣❤️‍🔥

Their joy in eurovision

"Sparklative"

The moment that Jan signed my jacket

Jan and Nace interacting on stage

Idk i love all the behind the scenes videos?

Them all singing together (see carpe diem series ep 7 amsterdam :D)

The backstage series

The Electric Ballroom gig in London & their reaction when Slovenia entered the grand final at ESC

Jan and Nace playing kazoos in the UK tour ep 2

You expect me to chose?? /j

Every Novi val performance.

anything Jan and Nace get up to tbh

Every moment in that "joker out being bros for 5 min straight" video or wtv or was called. Need friendships like that fr

don't know if it's my favorite moment per se but i do love how they all immeadiately fell in love with jere (käärijä), especially bojan ofc <3

Why has been so sparkling? ✨

Bojan draped in a pride flag in an old church while singing novi val. Top 3 moments to cry about at 3am tbh

The performance of Novi Val in Križanke. Also, this is not a JO moment as such, but a clip where Bojan imitates a german kid telling his mom he wants to jump on the trampoline(?) I'm sorry, but man's funny as fuck, I think about that clip often.

I haven't seen them live yet, so all the best moments are yet to come :)

All of them cuddles

I don’t knoww Maček in a box

kris tilting his head back, eurovision in my city, SEEING THEIR TOUR BUS IN LIVERPOOL WJEN ME AND MY FRIEND WERE OUT IN THE CITY CENTER THE DAY AFTER WE SAW THEM @ MANCHESTER

I don't know yet - there's so many moments! So many smiles and like laying their heads on each others shoulders during concerts and looking out for each other. <3

I liked how promptly they got rid of gregor on a serious level and also on a happy level when they qualified to the Eurovision final

cvetličarna

Bojan and Kaarija’s bromance

I don't know to many options

Love how often TURTOL is brought up. Nace would be proud <3

QUESTIONS 1-11 I QUESTION 12 I QUESTION 13 I QUESTION 14

#joker out #bojan cvjetićanin #kris guštin #jure maček #nace jordan #jan peteh #martin jurkovič #matic kovačič

[metalandmagi]

I'm re-watching High School Musical the Musical The Series (again) and even though I love this silly show so much, I'm compiling a list of things I would change for my own sanity. Get ready for some of the most niche nitpicks you can imagine!

Give the poor background kid who plays Ryan in HSM during season 1 his part back. We only ever see this kid during the "Status Quo" dance. He's not even in "Bop to the Top." I love Seb, but dang it, Sharpay and Ryan are an iconic duo.😞

Figure out what to do with EJ from the beginning. He is such a good character at his core, but the writers fumbled the bag with him so many times.

Ashlyn or Seb should have gotten offered a spot at the Youth Actors Conservatory instead of Nini. You know they carried that musical, and then we could have avoided the entire YAC arc.

More Natalie Bagley (the stage manager). She's hilarious and has a good voice.

More Kaden (background guy with bleached blond hair). Idk I just like him for some reason 😅

Make Seb the Beast in season 2. Justice for Seb!!!!!

The award that they want to win in season 2 not only has a cash prize, but a scholarship too! If the wildcats won, that scholarship could have seriously changed someone's life!

Lily seems like the type of person who would let the Wildcats perform The Rose Song and let them get disqualified without telling them about the rule. Just saying...

Why are the Wildcats ordered to stop production on Beauty and the Beast for going to North High and literally not doing anything, while a North High teacher stole their property and yet doesn't get punished? Also, why do they just drop this plot point later? I don't remember seeing it get resolved.

Ditch Ashlyn's "make way for Belle" attitude at the beginning of season 3. Seriously, what's up with that? Do the writers know her at all?

WE NEVER GET TO SEE JET ACTUALLY PLAY HANS!? WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE?

We never find out what Carlos was aiming to do by changing the Frozen cast list. Who did he want to play?🤔

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I didn't need Maddox and Ashlyn to get together. We could keep the arc about Ashlyn (and Big Red) discovering she's bi at camp, but I just don't feel the same chemistry as I do between her and Big Red. They're fine together; there's nothing really wrong with the ship. I just didn't like the way Ashlyn and Big Red broke up. And it felt a little like both Ashlyn and Big Red had to end up with people of the same gender to somehow "validate" the fact that they're both bi. (Yes it's a funny reveal at the end with the fake French kid revealing that he likes Big Red, but the point still stands). Again, Ashlyn and Maddox isn't a bad ship at all, I just feel like everything between these 3 could have been handled better.

Get rid of Dani is season 4. I'm sorry, but she doesn't add anything to the show (even though she gets chiller by the end). Nothing against her, she's just a nothing character.

BRING BIG RED AND SEB BACK FOR THE ENTIRE LAST SEASON! And scrap the cheating plotline. I don't have the patience for this nonsense.

I love Miss Jenn and Mr. Mazzara being end game (they're just like Luke and Lorelai from Gilmore Girls!!!!!), but there has to be a better reason to break up with Ricky's dad. It felt so rushed.

Where the hell are were all the extras that end up in the musical when Miss Jenn needed eight people to show up to the rehearsal? The main characters ditching that important rehearsal already annoyed me, but you'd think she'd get some of the ensemble to show up. Even if they said that most of them are doing the movie, some of them could have showed up, considering how big the ensemble is in the end.

Also in season 4, they talk about Miss Jenn and Mr. Mazzara's first meeting, but don't we see their first meeting back in season 1? Like...isn't it completely different?

As much as I love Miss Jenn wanting to continue teaching, I feel like she should have gotten her Broadway moment, at least for a little while. She was born to play Glinda.

I need to see Emmy become Natalie Bagley's protégé. They deserve to rule the world.

We needed an Olivia cameo at the end of the series. It could have been her face-timing the Wildcats. It could have been the camera zooming out when the rest of them were singing "Born to be Brave" to have her watching the video. Something! Anything!

#hsmtmts #high school musical the musical the series

[havocmadden]

"if i'm having fun it's good and if i'm not having fun it's bad" you're so so so real for this!! anyway sorry i disappeared for like a week so i'm going to ask more questions to make up for it: 1) i know i'm late to the spotify wrapped party but who were your favorite artists this year? are there any songs in particular that stood out to you? this can be either for disney artists or not it's up to you 2) how are you feeling about rise of red coming out next year? i know the plot looks too crazy even for descendants standards, and it helps that it's a brand new creative team, but is there anything specific you're hoping to see from the expanded world? 3) i need to hear your thoughts on zombies 4 because i know there's no way addison will have yet another identity crisis - gcwca secret santa

hi !!!! i hope u had a good week when you disappeared and not like, a terrible one!

to answer your questions, my fave artists were mostly non disney channel :( i think the only disney channel who made it into my top 100 was some sabrina songs :( but! my top five were:

noah kahan (so real)

fall out boy (they counted november this year which i know bc they would NOT have been in my top 5 otherwise. they were my nano soundtrack. tho tbh i think this nano project made me an actual for real fall out boy fan)

taylor swift

dessa

xana

if we could add some i feel like chappell roan should've been in my top five but alas :( also i saw two out of my top five in concert this year :) if we count tickets i bought for next year's concerts i am seeing 4/5 of my top five!! (i also saw chappell roan and she was SOOOOOO good in person). this year turned me into a genuine Concert Girlie (gender neutral) so that's been fun. or it would be, if i didn't have to drive 2 1/2 hours at best to get to one bc i live in the middle of fucking nowhere and no one comes here :(

as for the rise of red: honestly, i'm pretty excited! i'm not allowing myself to feel Bad about it until we get more information. plus, it's giving me the thing i always wanted out of the descendants franchise (qoh kid) so honestly this like, really works for me. like maybe when i watch it later it will be bad? and i'll be upset and disappointed? but. in the meantime, i'm having a great time! still living on the qoh kid high! like, the plot seems wild but personally i'm like. "descendants as a franchise never made sense and i'm getting what i personally wanted out of this franchise from it so i'm having a good time until proven otherwise"

i think a lot of people have strong feelings about it bc of cam, which is totally valid and is their right, but my personal feelings are since the core four aren't coming back, i'm okay with it. disney was never going to let their biggest franchise since hsm lie, yknow? i think this is the best it could've been in that sense of it? idk.

as for zombies 4. truly i have NO idea. honestly the most fun i have ever had with the zombies franchise was watching all three of them with two of my friends whilst we were all stoned, and personally i hope rupaul comes back because i thought it was funny. i'm so sorry if you're a zombies stan but they are not high art to me. they are fun little movies to watch while i get high and then i do not think about them until i want to show someone a silly little dcom franchise and jumpscare them with the presence of rupaul. personally i hope zombies 4 introduces addison's cousin from the human side of the family named allison who is now the one who gets to have identity criseses who is also played by meg donnelly. i hope coach has a new job. i hope his legal name is coach. i hope ej caswell finally gets to leave this discord. i hope they make a reference to the winchesters.

#the other best time i had had watching zombies was when the discord watched z3 right around the time it came out #my hopes for zombies 4 is they make it as specifically funny as possible to me a 23 year old adult who is doing weed #sorry i wrote u an essay anon :( #gcwca secret santa #drugs //

[shelbbswrites]

Hi Shelby, as someone who has seen a lot of tv shows and is a lover of rom-coms, I wanted your take on chemistry between actors/characters. With shows like The Summer I Turned Pretty and HSMTMTS airing around the same time, the discourse around actors having and not having chemistry has naturally picked up. I wondered what your take on the whole chemistry discussion is. I always see people say that chemistry is subjective, or that preference and bias for a certain ship plays a role in whether people see chemistry or not.

For example, TSITP, people rave at the chemistry between the actors who play Conrad and Belly, while saying Jeremiah and Belly don't have any. Yet, a large portion of people who watch say they do have great chemistry.

Same goes for HSMTMTS, you see fans and articles from other tv reviewers rave about the chemistry between Josh and Sofia while playing Ricky and Gina. But, you also have a large portion who feel like they don't have any chemistry or that Mack and Gina had more chemistry in lesser scenes. I had read some articles from other reviewers before the season aired to the public that loved Portwell but admitted that the chemistry between Ricky and Gina was undeniable. Other neutral ones said that the chemistry between the two was organic.

I know over the years creators and writers have come out and admitted that certain actors chemistry changed the plans for the their show (ex. Dawson's Creek with Joey and Pacey), causing them to go in a completely new direction.

Do you think all of this is just a simple answer as we're humans who have different opinions, with chemistry between actors being subjective, or do ship preference and bias come into play? Do you struggle with this being a tv reviewer, trying not to be biased based on your own personal preferences?

PS - I have read your articles over the seasons of HSMTMS and know you liked Ricky and Nini as well as Gina and EJ. So, because I know for sure that you watch the show, I also wondered what your thoughts were on Ricky and Gina's chemistry this season and overall. Did you feel like they had a lot of chemistry? Some? Not as much as others?

I appreciate if you do answer as I tend to ramble once I start writing, sorry about that lol

Sorry it's taken me a bit to answer this ask. I've been watching football all weekend, so I've been pretty absent from social media — unless I was posting about football.

But no apologies are necessary for the long ask. I appreciate your passion and the time it took to write this out. I'll answer it by each paragraph, so I don't miss anything.

Chemistry is interesting because it is often objective, but we often can't help but be subjective. Sometimes, if you prefer one relationship over another, you may see more chemistry between those actors than the ones that make up the other pairing. However, for the most part, I see chemistry as objective. People either have it or they don't — and with rom-coms that can make or break it all.

For instance, Your Place or Mine. I don't think Ashton Kutcher and Reese Witherspoon have all that much romantic chemistry, but I think Reese Witherspoon and Luke Wilson DO in Legally Blonde.

As for The Summer I Turned Pretty, I think all three actors are great. Genuinely. They all have chemistry. But a different kind of chemistry because every dynamic is built on different characters. At this point in Season 2, Belly and Conrad have a different chemistry than in Season 1. That fire still crackles between them, but Conrad is trying to fan the flame to keep it burning, but Belly is moving on because she doesn't know how Conrad feels.

Whereas with Jeremiah, he's only starting to open himself up to Belly again. That hesitance to letting her back in and Belly starting to see Jere differently than in Season 1 informs the actors' chemistry.

But if someone is so adamant about Belly/Conrad or Belly/Jeremiah being superior that they don't even entertain the idea of the other relationship or try to understand where the characters are coming from, then there may be some resistance to seeing the chemistry between the actors.

For HSMTMTS, I think the same remains true — mostly.

Joshua Bassett and Sofia Wylie DO have chemistry. That's part of what made Ricky and Gina's connection jump off the screen all the way back in 2019 in Season 1. Personally, I don't think Mack and Gina had romantic chemistry. They could've, but the show shut that down pretty quickly when Gina met Mack and he was quite rude. From then, they became good friends and that's all I got from them.

Bringing Portwell into it, Sofia Wylie and Matt Cornett also have great chemistry. But their chemistry is different than Wylie and Bassett's. And that's okay! That's what I like! That's what makes the dynamics different and more exciting to watch!

I, too, have read and listened to writers discuss how actors' chemistry can change plans and inform story, and I think that's just smart. It's smart to write towards an actor's strengths when you can.

So, yes, I do think everyone will always have different opinions about chemistry because there is such a passion and loyalty to romantic relationships. And sometimes that dedication makes it hard to see beyond it and look at the bigger picture.

As a critic and an aspiring TV writer, I try to be as subjective as possible. I have my preferences as a viewer, as anyone does. But when I'm reviewing a show or analyzing a theme in a feature, I try to be as subjective as possible and understand where all characters are coming from at all sides. I tried my best to do that in my HSMTMTS Season 4 review and my analysis of TSITP's love triangle after the first three episodes. I'll link those below in case you, or anyone else who may read this, wants to read them.

And thank you for reading my articles! That means A LOT.

#shelbbsanswers #romcoms #rom-coms #romantic comedy #romantic comedies #tsitp #the summer i turned pretty #bonrad #belly conklin #conrad fisher #jelly #jeremiah fisher #hsmtmts #rina #portwell #rini #gina porter #ej caswell #ricky bowen

[goldengashes]

Hi, just wanted to ask will you be watching season 4 and what were your thoughts on both portwell and r*na's development? What about all of them as characters? I personally was rooting for r*na in season 1. But after watching most of season 2, I prefer portwell and probably won't watch season 3 after the mess they made. I'd have been okay with r*na if the narrative made sense but sorry to say Gina has been a "maybe" to Ricky. She picked the guy she wanted since S1, but she seems to forget he's not really deserving of her attention at all after he's blown her off and asked her for relationship advice knowing she liked him. Like come on do better girl.

hey, thanks for the ask! hope you're well, anon.

i'll answer this as briefly and structured as i possibly can but i highly doubt it lmao. possible rant ahead (?)

okay so s4... i can't say that i won't tune in because essentially, i'm a huge sofia wylie fan. i've loved her since andi mack and everything she's ever put out with disney, i've watched (plus sge). and aside from that, the s4 plot (the whole og hsm movie reunion thing/wildcats being extras on the movie) is being hyped up a lot and i'm intrigued to see how that plays out. outside of the triangle, i love kourtney, carlos, ash, jet and maddox as characters. i'd probably just scroll thru hsmtmts twitter posts/tumblr tags to see the scenes/discourse/takes and use it to determine whether i'd watch or not. i've abandoned more shows (esp ongoing ones) than i have finished so... we'll see.

if you want me to be honest, gina is the reason i shipped portwell. in s1, the only person from the core four i truly rooted for was gina. i couldn't care less about ricky, nini and ej characters and plotlines (plus their weird 'love triangle'). i wouldn't call myself a rina in s1, but i was rooting for gina's character to be more vulnerable and possibly finding romance. she's this tough girl who's never really fit in because she had to move so much and i truly sympathized with her. in that homecoming scene with ricky, i actually did feel chemistry between them. now looking back, it's probably just sofia and joshua's acting that made that scene more that it actually was. but by the end of s1, it's clear rini was that season's endgame. i mean, the main plot of s1 was ricky being in the play to get nini back. i also believe they were going to be endgame if olivia hadn't left. and before anyone says s2 was filmed before driver's license and sour blew up, i know! but just think about it: with 'all i want' doing well and blowing up on tiktok the previous year and olivia working with a producer at interscope records (not under disney) for her new album since 2020, i think she was planning to move on to music before the script was written. hence ricky and nini's plotline for a 'final' breakup.

moving on to s2... in s2, i didn't like how in 2a gina's whole storyline was crying/pining over ricky who doesn't really reach out to her after the one exercise where gina rejects him. up to 205, i understood ricky might've been conflicted and confused about gina's feelings for him, he had his relatioship with nini and his family drama to worry about. but since that whole 'plane crash' scene pretty much checks out as a confession, it just didn't make sense for ricky to act the way he did in 205. after the whole "if you and i were dating..." thing he pulled, i could not ship rina at all. all the doors i had open for them, i shut. he was so out of line and so disrespectful. he only cared about nini in that scene (while also stepping over nini's boundaries about being in the play). and c'mon, this boy at least knows gina and him are at this weird stage where they aren't purely friends and there's feelings involved. so why would he say that? now, when i saw ej and gina's scene in the same episode, they got me immediately. and it all sort of aligned with their history and personalities—overconfident, 'anti-hero', ex-scheming partners. now that i think about it, i didn't like rina before i loved portwell. and portwell? well, i think they're neat. midgame ship this, plot device that, i don't really mind. i'm thankful for their development in 2b because it was a breath of fresh air for someone who loves and roots for gina. and ej grew on me, too. in s1 he was this straight up himbo disney villain for but in s2 he was given more dimension in his character, had relatable struggles and we were shown a more vulnerable and attentive side to him. my top reason for shipping pw is the fact they started becoming better people together and they got each other because of that. the whole 'new ej' and 'gina 2.0' thing was probably a happy accident, hence why tim didn't really dig further into that. but on the other hand, they're different in a lot of ways. gina wants to settle down in one place and ej doesn't know what he wants—we even find that he wants to break free from the mold his dad wants him to be. i wish that would be something they help each other out with—he is her constant and comfort and she's the person who grounds and challenges him. instead, it becomes a point where they fail (looking at you, s3!). and whether you are a rina/pw anti, there's no denying ej treated gina like a queen in s2. portwell in 205-210 will always have me by the neck. and even though 211 and 212 makes me recoil, i personally don't blame ej for tapping out from their date with the whole 'brother' thing. just like gina, he's scared of putting himself out there to get hurt.

now, s3. i like to joke about the fact that it didn't exist but honestly? minus the triangle, it was pretty entertaining and funny. i liked maddox's character a lot in particular, she reminds me of me. i loved that kourtney has a character arc. i love ej more after watching s3, he's become one of my fav characters. now, i don't know if i'll get booed for this by the pws but i wish pw would have not been a couple while gina is still in hs. not because of the whole age gap thing (which is ridiculous), but i genuinely think they'd suit that bff-to-lovers slow burn. thank god i have tsbu because the way tsbu!pw plays out is exactly how i imagined it would be. but alas, we see portwell deteriorate in s3. and ofc it was painful to witness but less so because they felt off to me. they weren't really the s2 pw i knew and loved. trust me i don't say this bc they broke up, i say it's the lack of banter and moments of vulnerability (which they should have more of bc they're a couple here!). also the ej caswell i know would've broken the rules and took gina as a date, honestly. like, he literally gave a girl food poisoning so he can star in a show with nini. now, i do believe that gina and ej being in different phases of their lives was a good reason for their breakup, she's got 2 years of hs left and his world is getting bigger than just hs. i mean, like i said before, i wished they'd have that two-year, slow-burn best friends-to-lovers arc. my biggest problem with ej and gina's story was the execution. there were hundreds of ways to write them being right person/wrong time and they'd still mean a lot to each other etc. i'd actually be okay with them ending. but with the whole 'i can't be a maybe anymore' and 'can it really be over, if it never got the chance to start?' rubs me the wrong way. it's like tim really wanted everyone to see that ej is at fault here (despite whatever tim's saying in interviews) when he's doing all of this so his girlfriend and his friends would 1) have a great summer in this place that's really important to him and 2) have this great opportunity to be on disney+, which is a huge deal. specifically, for gina, he wanted to make a good show bc we all know how much finally being casted as a lead is important to her. ej could've just walked away, given up and let this thing fall into shambles, but he didn't. it didn't just cost him time with gina, it costed him his whole summer. it was all weird writing for me. and as for rina? firstly, i find it odd that the rinas were rooting for gina emotionally cheating on ej. even sofia said that gina's not that type of girl and she genuinely wanted her and ej to work. personally, i didn't find ricky pining for gina cute at all. ik a lot of people see it as a parallel for season 2a when gina secretly pines over ricky while he's still with nini. but the context here is different now, isn't it? gina never received a confession (or any sort of sign ricky wanted to be around her) before she got with ej. in fact, ricky was busy with lily and was close enough with her to spend summer with her and her parents in florida?? like i don't know, it just feels like ricky's feelings stemmed out of nowhere which made it seem shallow and not the epic love tim is pushing it to be. again, sofia and josh are great actors, the wdykal scene had so much chemistry but it was just that. the context/history of rina is extremely shallow to me. they needed val to say 'yup, he's genuinely heartsick' instead of just letting josh's acting show it. another thing i should mention is the instances where ricky was so passive-aggressive about ej and gina. the part where jet ran off and they needed a hans to sing liaod with anna (gina), he was going to volunteer to step in because he had feelings for her and was visibly pissed off when cordon told ej to sub for jet. and there's ricky slapping ej, which was an ick moment bc it made him seem entitled rather than badass.

lastly, that one shot of him finding out nini was at camp? "nini's here?" yeah? that one scene had more emotional fuel than ricky spending the whole two weeks max crushing on gina. it sort of set back the whole rina development, i have to say it.

speaking of nini, her sendoff wasn't as satisfying as i expected it to be. in s3, i'd prefer it if she moved to california because she got a record deal or something? since s3 was already so meta, that would've been much better than her moving out to cali because her moms wanted to. back to s1, i feel like she was your stereotypical shy, main character with the usual 'gaining confidence' arc and that arc was sort of boring and overdone for me. but in s2 i really enjoyed her branching out to songwriting and stepping side to help out others. plus, i think people skip over how awful ricky was to her as well. first, he takes a break and feels entitled to get her back and second, he genuinely started suffocating the poor girl in s2. well, at least he realized it, though. again, when people say rini was toxic, it's really just ricky. nini did nothing wrong in s1-2. i don't think the rose song was even about ricky, he just made it into something it wasn't supposed to be. i sincerely hope ricky loses this behaviour in s4.

anyway! end of rant. these are just my thoughts. if anyone agrees or disagrees, it's up to them. i genuinely hope gina is happy next season, bc before i was a pw stan i was a gina stan (even though she was a little ooc in s3). if it means rina being happy, i won't be so mad. at the end of the day, this is just a silly disney show and it’s all for entertainment. i do love portwell but i rather tim never touch them again, honestly. canon pw is already ruined for me, though i wouldn't mind a proper portwell closure scene in s4.

that was a lot more words than i expected lmaoo, but if anyone read all of that, cool! if not, that's cool, too. it was very cathartic.

#hsmtmts #gina porter #nini salazar roberts #ej caswell #ricky bowen #portwell #anti rina #just my thoughts

[homemade-ghosts]

What do you think about the obstacles Tim mentioned in the interview? Something about Gina being upper class now, that surprised me and that people who watched the documentary will have opinions on them (I assume bad? cheating allegations? I don't know I never seen a plot like that tbh) For some weird reason and I'm a very negative worrier person I'm not worry

When Tim said Gina is an “upperclass person” now, I think he just meant that she’ll be a junior (in high school, typically, freshman & sophomores are considered lowerclassmen + juniors & seniors are upperclassmen) not in the socioeconomic sense.

Based on that hilariously awful/inflammatory doc trailer, if I had to guess, I’d say Channing made it look like 1. Ricky’s plan was to “steal” Gina from EJ (he was tasked with the ‘jilted ex’ role, after all) & 2. Gina cheated on EJ with Ricky. We know he has Ricky looking jealous & walking out after pw sang “Love is an Open Door”, nearly the entire “What Do You Know About Love?” performance, Ricky & Gina hugging at Color War and Ricky getting pissed off at him backstage mid-show (with Gina in the background) all on camera — so, it wouldn’t be hard for him to manipulate that footage and string together a narrative that Rina, potentially, had some kind of showmance-turned-romance behind the scenes.

I could see him editing it in a way that’s open to interpretation for the audience, though. Like, within the show, there are people who watched the doc and think Ricky pursued Gina and might blame him for EJ & Gina’s breakup & there are people who don’t. &/or maybe there are people who think that Gina cheated on EJ & they blame her. & there are some people who, maybe (hopefully?) see through all the bs, ship Rina & think (rightfully so) that EJ was responsible for the pw breakup + they just weren’t right for each other. I hope I’m making at least some sense here lol — basically, viewers within the show see the doc and have differing opinions, a parallel to how fans in real life react to hsmtmts itself.

It would be funny if they had the characters reading people’s tweets about the doc and being like, “This is the worst take I’ve ever seen.” / “I never said that!” / “Did they even watch the documentary?” I can just imagine someone calling Ricky a “homewrecker” in a tweet because, after seeing the doc, they think he came to camp to “get Gina back.” & him reading it like, “What?? C’mon, that’s not even remotely what happened!” & Carlos responding with something like, “That doesn’t even make sense. We all know EJ wrecked that home all by himself.” All of which would be a direct nod to how pws/rinis consistently invent non-existent plot points & misunderstand/misinterpret the show in real life.

We’re getting the OG HSM cast, playing a version of themselves playing their HSM characters in an HSM 4 movie that’s being filmed at East High, which the kids will all be featured extras in — all while they put on a production of HSM 3: Senior Year. Tim & Co. are clearly not afraid to go full meta, so they might as well take it one step further and include a representation of the actual show’s fanbase reacting to the doc the way some people react to hsmtmts irl. I’m not going to pretend I wouldn’t be laughing my ass off watching these characters put #them on blast for getting the show so completely & utterly wrong. 

(Side note: did reading all that hurt your head? Because it hurt mine. There’s a lot of layers to the meta aspect of s4, I’m just hoping I explained them somewhat coherently.)

I know a lot of people wanted Ricky & Gina to be secretly dating in s4, even before s3 aired, and I think there’s a possibility we might get that. If the documentary becomes as huge as they’re setting it up to be, and part of the audience thinks Gina cheated on EJ &/or that Ricky “went after” Gina, then maybe neither of them wants to be seen dating in public because they know that, if someone caught them, it could potentially be used against them to confirm the “cheating” storyline/rumors. The upside of that, for us at least, is that it could lead to some cute private dates that Ricky plans at his apartment because they can’t go out.

& maybe school is the one place they can be a couple in public, post-doc release (no press allowed on school grounds) but then surprise! HSM 4 starts filming at East High soon, which means there will be cameras everywhere and they’ll have to navigate that. Do they keep trying to hide their relationship? Or do they just say “screw it, who cares what people that we don’t even know think about us.” (Hint: if they go this route, it’ll be the second one.)

I’m not sure that I particularly love this idea, but I can’t deny it could be entertaining to watch and it sets Rina up with an immediate obstacle in their relationship that’s relatively easy to overcome.

Apart from anything doc-related, I’m sure there will be some discussions about their future. Ricky’s graduating this year and Gina will still have one more year of high school left after that — but I feel like s4 will pick up close to where s3 left off, so they’ll still have nearly an entire school year to figure all of that stuff out. 

Tim has been building Rina for three seasons and he talks about writing for them with so much excitement, that there’s “a world of opportunity for them to explore.” So I’m not worried either, anon. I think whatever conflict that’s presented to them will, in the end, just serve to prove how well they work as a couple.

#ricky x gina #rina #hsmtmts #hsmtmts s3 #hsm s4 speculation #asks #anon

[sarcasticsunshine123]

top 3 hsmtmts original songs? 🤔

I thought this said hsm song and was SO ready to fix the right here, right now slander I see but,,,, whatever (jkjk ty for the ask hehe <3)

this is SO HARD I like so many and for so many different reasons.....

1. let you go

okay this one was in my liked songs for a really long time i have literally no idea if its still there and I have it in about every playlist I can fit it in, I'm actually obsessed w the bridge and it's so good it's one of the only hsmtmts songs on my mums liked songs playlist. this one is magnificent and when he sung it in the ep i cried <3

2. red means love

this one HAD to be here it is... my song. I own it. no but singing it brings me so much comfort? and I played it/sung it enough my mum would do the ooh ooh bit in the chorus and she tried to sing it when I was scared to get my first jab. also the performance for this is so cute like I can't listen to the song itself anymore but whenever I skip it I smile dkfkf

3. just for a moment (/finally free)

this is. up for debate. I recently put it back into my likes after hearing my mum playing it bc I forgot how good it was, however this space is probably a tie with finally free as that one is so good and really brings joy to my heart so yeah I'd probably put finally free there but JUST because of when I'm writing this I'll put just for a moment

honorable mentions:

second chance which I have a LOT of fun singing along w like I get to do funny voices and it's so dramatic I love (also rickys 'beEegin again' things in the background while everyone else sings a Proper Part gets me giggling like an idiot everytime and who wouldn’t rate that kind of joy?)

1-2-3 which is an absolute iconic performance and is good song even if it gets me thinking 'I have heard this before but can't remember when' every single time it plays fjfjf

I think I kinda you know which is a super sweet song and I really like the vibes it's so,,, like it's so sweet and innocent and i love how its like a cutsey little thing 'i wont say it but im saying it ;)' idk and actually!! fun fact I listened to it before I even watched the show and had already added it to my playlists before I even watched fjfjf (my mum was confused how I was able to sing along)

wondering which is super well done and while the other version w all the girls on it isn't as good I have both added to my playlist because it's so sweet

also even when/the best part is absolutely hilarious when you're singing both parts by yourself I have no idea if that's why it was in my likes for so long but yeah. a lot of fun.

OMG I almost forgot out of the old which I also liked a lot (and the new ones good too but I haven't listened as much so can't say) I'm so tired rn ill add why in the morning (or delete like did I mention every song? if not I love billion sorry too it was in my spotify wrapped- and also on my mums most listened bc I listen to music on her device sometimes)

this turned into an absolute monster of a response good luck making sense of it djfjf (also I feel like I've included all original songs but I'm tired so if I didn't look away <3) thanks for the ask this was really fun!!

#hsmtmts #tell me yours in the comments!!! #thanks again for the ask! <3 #sunshine asks #sunshine rambles #i say 'sing' in this a lot but i assure you i can not sing at all fjfkf

[popculturebuffet]

Disney Plus just dropped a Pride Month Collection. Your thoughts?

I saw it and was HOPING someone would bring it up or I could slip it into a review because man oh man is this shit hilariously pathetic. Like last year's attempt at showing queer solidarity to earn some quick points:

Still hilarous btw, it TRIES to show them as progressive.. while instead showing just how bad they are at doing representation.

So starting off we have the movie section

It's not as hilarious as the other two, we'll get to that, as there are four full length movies in here making a gennuine effort as well as shorts.

That said two things about it stick out: the first is that there are ONLY four movies here. While I do thank Disney for not having the balls to put any of thier "first gay person" bs films in there, it does show that it took until LAST YEAR to put a gay character of note in a marvel film and that none of the others are huge relases.

As for west side story, which is indeed a film... that one's simply because Ariana Debose, who is wonderous, is nonbinary. Which is awesome, she is, but it does feel a touch pathetic to put a film in there JUST because the actor is nonbinary, especially when they didn't for any films that had other queer actors. I didn't see Cheetah Girls 1 or 2, College Road Trip, The Descendants Trilogy, Encanto, Kim Possible: So the Drama, Onward and that's just the handful I saw that I know have a queer actor in them. The list likely goes on past that. I mean if they wanted to i'd fully support it, but this feels less like putting a spotlight on ariana, like it should, and more like Disney going "oh shit we only have 8 things in this section quick pull another out of our goofy's ass!". So it's not TERRIBLE but it is pretty shocking just how little queer content disney has, as well as how a possible out, spotlighting it's queer actors, was never thought of beyond one single movie.

Now onto our main event

It's beautiful. Stupid and self serving but beautiful. So yeah for starters like movie's it' slaughably sparse. It's not as bad as there's still a decent spread of shows and outside of glee I honestly can't speak for big shot, hsm the series, future president, doogie kamahola MD, or grown ish as I haven't seen them and only know jessica jones and runaways gayness by having read stuff. And on stuff I have seen I watched all of glee as it aired...

Look I was a nerdy kid who loved music. It wasn't a hard sell and only became one as it slowly degraded into a blob monster of hit's former self. I regret nothing. But they had NOTHING to do with Glee's production so while not a bad grab, it had quite a few queer characters and decent one at that including Blaine played by my boy darren criss and Santana played by the late great Naya Rievera as my faviorites out of it's queer cast, it does come off as reaching. Owl House, while something they CANCELED, is also a stellar choice. Granted I also hope this means more yelling at them for it but still. We also get louder and prouder which not only had a standout episode I planned to cover this month but got bumped up thanks to don't say gay, REMEMBER THAT GUYS?, b

But then we get reachy. We have amphibia which DOES have gay characters: oliva and yunan, the IT gals, the "I don't clownface you" guys, and our main trio despite never gettin ga proper upgrade, it just feels lik e"hey this has a few gay characters" feels a bit of a reach.

But then we get to ENTIRE reaches. We have Star Vs which while heavily impling tom, star and marco are all bi or pan, never really goes through with it and in the episode section promotes just friends.. for showing same sex couples. It congradulates the show fo rdoing the bARE MINIMUM. We also get louder and prouder which at the very least has a gay character in the main cast

Then we have the biggest joke of all: Gravity Falls. They put the series they let have the BAREST BIT of gay content at the end in, that they constantly rejected ANY AND ALL gay content from i nthere.. from a guy who DIRECTLY AND RIGHTFULYL MOCKED THEM FOR THE EVERYONE'S WELCOME UNDER THE RAINBOW TWEET. It's a level of embarassment i'd be shocked a company had reached if it was anyone but disney.

Overall it's not that the rep is bad persay, ther'es some decent one, but only ONE of these shows has a queer lead and only a few of them are on mainline networks and one of them, and Glee was added again transparently for representatoin. It probably woudl've eventually but doing it THIS MONTH just makes it obvious.

But most hilarious, most damming is that they LEFT SHOWS OUT. Yes. REALLY. With a list this small they STILL forgot some shows had queer content. So in order

Andi Mack: THe most galling omission as one of the main cast members is gay, both in character and in real life, and was Disney Channel's first gay character I believe. Hell some of his coming out arc is outright MISSING from the service because disney wants you to forget they hired a pedophile to play the dad. Yes that happened. But it's not the show's fault. They coudln't of known he was a sex monster. Just my god

Big City Greens: Admitely it's just two side characters we see together and who are confirmed a couple in the valentine's special but it's weird that's fine for Amphibia but not this show to get put on there.

DuckTales; Now like the gravity falls one this would bite them in the ass a bit as they outright blocked saying Penny was gay.. but she still is and says she is best they could. Not only that you also have weblena and Storkules. There is no straight explination for eithe rof those.

The Muppet Show: Not only was Richard Hunt gay as hell, but you also had queer guests like Elton John on there. It' sbaffling.

The Simpsons: This is a BIG one to me, especially since next week i'm doing FOUR episodes of the show for pride as part of a bigger project. Not just plugging myself there either: homer's phobia was groundbreaking for the time, there's something about marrying handles how gay marriage was and the more recent smithers episodes with him coming out and finding love help recontexualitze what was once a "GET IT HE'S Gay" joke. The show isn't the gayest, i'll grant you but the fact two major supporting cast members are gay and the shows had a decent amount of queer characters, it's weird to not feature it or at least the gay episodes. And it's not the homophobia either: Louder and Prouder's father figures is all abou homophobia as are the black-ish episodes featured. there is NO excuse.

So yeah episodes are also a mess. My point here is that while Disney is trying.. they really haven't learned anything about representation and hopefully CAN.

#pride month #disney

[strawberryshortcakegirl]

HSMTMTS Season 3 Trailer Thoughts

The beginning's actually kinda funny (something wildcats!).

Why is the right part of the scene blurred at 16 seconds..? It's pretty obvious if you pause there.

MADDOX MY LOVE

Maddox's face when she's holding out the phone bin lol

Is it just me or is Kourtney taking a selfie at a random moment kind of like Season 1 Carlos?

It annoys me that they spent 14 seconds in the trailer on the announcing Corbin and the putting on Frozen part (mainly because it was already in the sneak peek) but I know, some FaNs didn't know about it sooo

So Gina's wearing all gold while dancing on stage. I think that she's gonna have her Season 1 Nini moment where she's auditioning and then is suddenly transported to some dream stage and wearing something different (they did this in 1-2-3 in season 2 as well).

I can't see Olivia Rodrigo or Nini with a gigantic sunhat and holding a white lace umbrella but here we are

And Ricky is now standing on a log looking out to the city. I was thinking it's probably some Troy song, like Scream perhaps...? Although to be realistic, maybe EJ should sing Scream because of his whole college decision (which strangely wasn't even brought up in the trailer).

So now Gina's talking about how this is her first time doing a bunch of stuff. I think that maybe she's about to sing For the First Time in Forever because.... I mean it would make sense.

Carlos looks ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED talking about how Portwell will be a thing all summer...

Gina girl it is not your first time going all out for the lead in the show. You did that with HSM, you just didn't actually get the lead... unless Gina's talking about going all out AS the lead of the show?

They show a color wars song for a bit. Meg/Val has a mic so I'm sure she'll be singing quite a bit in that song. I'm lowkey not interested at all in a color wars thing, but oh well. Maybe it'll be interesting. Oh and later in the trailer it shows Jet (on the yellow team) being held up by his teammates so I guess we already know that the yellow team wins

Val announcing EJ as the director is making me ship Casval even harder (yes I am calling them Casval lol)

I swear I will make a slideshow of all the times the girls in Season 3 are wearing shirts with puffy sleeves.

So I've heard that EJ saying he's freaking out could be because of him directing a musical for the first time.... or it could be about Rina developing again?

Bro Ricky are you... holding an invisible guitar while jumping backwards? *Bet on it cringe flashbacks

YESSS JET GETS A SONG!!

I'm glad they're singing Start the Party actually. I hate my brain.

Oh of course Carlos can't focus on anything else except for the musical (or... is it the fact that Seb isn't at the camp? Except at camp prom?).

Okay it actually made me laugh when Ricky said that he thought someone in Frozen was named Gary. I know some people are shocked that he doesn't even know the main characters of Frozen but then I remembered I've had a friend who NEVER watched Disney so perhaps some people are just not as connected with the Disney movies world O_O

RICKY WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU WEARING?!? Is Ricky pulling an EJ and going into the auditions in costume

Nini talking to some creepy guy scares me. I know that he's supposed to be a "family friend" but yeah. Also wasn't she supposed to be working with Jamie?

Ashlyn's hair color going from orange streaks to blue streaks lol. I always think her hair looks so good though so I'm not going to question how she changed it halfway through a summer camp.

For anyone who thinks that's not Maddox and Madison, the next shot shows Madison with the same exact hairstyle and Maddox wearing the sunglasses on top of her head. Just sayin'

NINI NOTHING FROM THE PAST FEW YEARS HAS- okay she has only really thought about becoming a singer/songwriter for one semester. Literally. Before that, she was content with just being in musicals.

Also Miss Jenn looks very different (her hair is just getting shorter each season lol)

EJ if you say nothing's gonna ruin your summer with your girlfriend you're basically ASKING for it to be ruined.

So Ricky was clearly writing a song, and then did that HSM 3 thing (if anyone remembers) where he purposely was showing her the paper but not letting her have it.

It lowkey makes sense for Rina to develop anyways. EJ is too busy being a camp director. Gina's the lead. Ricky MIGHT get Kristoff.

I swear if I have to hear Corbin say "Wha-what?" again I'm going to scream.

Them specifying that Meg is from Zombies haha

EJ is probably giving the thumbs up to Gina's audition. Adding onto that, WHATEVER happens with what Gina gets, it's gonna cause chaos. If she gets the lead, people will say "Oh that's unfair because you're dating our director." On the other hand, maybe EJ won't give her the lead BECAUSE people would think that way.

The stakes have never been higher...? I'm confused last time I checked it's a Frozen musical that is put on by a two-week summer camp. It's really not that big...

But yes I will also be obsessing over every episode so maybe it is a big thing.

I'm sure only my Discord friends have maybe made it this far but thanks for reading haha :) glad that the trailer FINALLY released.

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts s1 #hsmtmts s2 #hsmtmts trailer #hsmtmts s3 #nini salazar roberts #ricky bowen #ej caswell #gina porter #ashlyn caswell #yesideletedallmypreviousposts

[neon-in-the-night-time]

finished season 2, my thoughts:

the pizza oven >:(((((((

hate how covid basically destroyed the ensemble cast, i think they were an integral part of the theme of drama club as family even if we didn’t really know most of them

i noticed that they began to mix in some non-diegetic music in with the diegetic (for those not aware, diegetic music is music that is part of the fictional setting and is heard by characters). the two songs i noticed it with was granted and second chance. i think that this was a good narrative choice overall, even though it breaks the continuity of having all the songs being physically sung by the characters in-universe, because it brings an opportunity for characters who wouldn’t normally be characterized as songwriters to have their own original song. and it also opened the door to balance and different way to dance in season 3 so i gotta love it

i really loved the seblos and the redlyn plot lines in this season. i like the healthy dynamic it presents, where even when there’s bumps in the road they work through it. especially when you compare it to the super toxic relationships i and a lot of other folks grew up watching on disney channel. it’s also a nice break from the drama of the ej/gina/ricky/nini love square

original songs were as always fantastic, however, i think the covers were a lot better. even when it was just small adjustments to the original instrumentation or harmonies it felt like it was a unique take while still staying true to the spirit of the originals. and the edm dance remix that the french guy made in the field trip took an otherwise boring and forgettable song (emphasis on forgettable: i must’ve seen that movie a hundred times as a kid and not once did i recall the mob song existing) into something new and fresh and honestly? it’s a bop. i unironically listen to it. it’s so good

another thing about the covers i liked is even if they didn’t use the whole song for the show for time reasons, they still recorded the full song for the soundtrack, making it actually listenable (no hate to the season 1 soundtrack, i just wish the hsm covers had all the verses)

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts rewatch

[placeinthisworld]

hello!! only two days left til i reveal myself! any guesses who i am? (lol we're not mutuals so i doubt you would) and only two days til christmas which feels insane to me it came so fast!! did you figure out the last of your gifts for everyone? did your coworkers enjoy the fudge? i think maybe the best thing about the holidays is all the different treats people bring into work. before i left for my parent's place there were so many different types of cookies in our breakroom it was great

i don't collect cassettes right now (tho i may start) but a while ago a friend gave me a bunch of blank ones so i wanted a way to record onto them. and yess i lovee mix cds!!

i havent seen any of those tv shows or movies lmaoo (except tangled) but i've heard lots about them and they def sound interesting! i just read the synopsis for funny girl and it looks cool i might have to watch it sometime! i just finished watching community and really enjoyed it, i also really like gilmore girls, heartstopper, and young royals. as for movies, i really like musicals and usually say my favorite movie is high school musical 2 lol

i hope you're doing well!! 💕💕

Hiiii ahhhh I can’t believe this month is over already it went by so fast!!! LOL NO NO GUESSES 😭😂 I can’t wait to find out though!! I did figure out gifts for everyone! Now my problem is that I overbought and need to return stuff to target on Monday 😂 what about you!!? Is there anything you’re specifically looking forward to getting possibly tomorrow!? And yes they did enjoy the fudge!! That def is the best part of this time of the year, snacks at work i such a bonus!!!

Ahhhh that’s so cool!!! I wouldn’t even know how to record on a cassette but it sounds interesting!!mixed cds are such a nostalgic thing like you can never go wrong with making and/ or gifting a mixed cd it hits so different

Lmaooo yeah I didn’t expect anyone else to really know those 😂😂 TANGLED IS UNIVERSALLY LOVED THOUGH! Ooooh I’ve seen so much about community I really should watch it I feel like I would probably like it. And omggg I used to looooove Gilmore girls but I haven’t seen it in years, something I def should go rewatch again. I love musicals as well! HSM2 is sooooo good you’re so valid for that, I can still probably sing every song from HSM 1 & 2 with no hesitation 😂 have you seen the show reboot with Olivia rodrigo!? I haven’t but I kinda always wanted to lol

#answered #💕💕

[plotsandplansarchive]

High School Days

Never Have I Ever/Lady Bird inspired; Based on HS experience w/ Soundtrack from that era; Coming-of-age; 2009-2012 Soundtrack

Freshman | Sophomore | Junior | Senior

Quiet, smart and socially awkward teen navigates life as a HS in an all-girls Catholic school.

Events: FRESHMAN:

1st Day of HA

Meet new classmates and friends

_ is assigned to to show her around the new school; initially tries to avoid and make fun of

Being assigned as co director and being clueless w/ rival for first ever HS play

Gets left behind in Filipino skills and struggles with the subject

Tried to find the infamous Black Book at the library

Still being not good at swimming

Still suck at sports

Mistaken for being a math whiz bc aced a quiz bee where questions were already familiar and then was forced to join a math competition

Joined first ever inter school campus journalism workshop and rediscovers preschool friend and her ridiculously good life but finds out she's a bitch

Throwback to summer before freshman year of doing nothing but internet and online gaming and being persuaded by crush to join FB

Slowly loses connection with elementary friends and starts new group of friends

Frequents library, watches Glee, gets high scores in tests, has friend who's obsessed with Bieber

Interaction with street kids

Pet fair

First ever crush during intramurals

Decides to play scrabble for the nth time and ends up losing 4th individually but surprisingly 1st overall

Gets a serious crush on upperclassman during playfest

Taylor swift is often played bc relatable but not a fan SOPHOMORE

Reshuffling of class and group of friends is separated

Discovers Umbrella and becomes lunch hang out w/ friends

Starts to feel left out in new class and starts to feel depressed

Tries hand in Music and being minor charactsr during playfest

Gets a secret crush on group leader who happens to be super smart & really good at everything and is also unbelievably cool but finds out close

Drama with some classmates in the classroom

Overnight taize at school and other adventures

Notices close friend is trying hard to be a social climber and rest of group start talking about her bad attitude and how feels emotionally bullied almost everyday and they try planning an intervention JUNIOR

starts out school year surprisingly good with good social experiences

Decides to try out for play lead

Unexpectedly gets lead role despite protest from own adviser and friendship with _ who is opposite lead as Romeo & Juliet and things get awkward during ENTIRE playfest from practice to opening night

Bloopers during rehearsals and awkward practices w/ lead

Decides to try out for softball team

Family day night party

__ is separated from the rest of group and finds herself surrounded with a new cooler group of friends: old friends feel forgotten & replaced SENIOR

1 week before senior year starts manages to get chickenpox

Enters senior year super clueless and left behind in junior year

Gets assigned to advanced math with most of friends but feels out of place and felt like she was the dumbest one in class and unable to catch up

Applies to universities and manages to get in every one applied

Feels that She, , & _ are outcasts

3 day retreat

Prom date set up by another close friend and awkward prom experience

Discovers that 3 friends out of the 6/7 of them in freshman year would stick by each other

Struggle w/ cooking in home economics; singing Mulan while washing dishes instead

Becomes producer of inferior play and deals with Close friends become the directors and are being criticized by everyone in class for not doing a good job

Emotional series finale of iCarly

Last day of swimming miracle

First ever sleepover with 3 other close friends bc other 2 are out with their other groups

Last integrated play and sings HSM with __ backstage

First ever debut attended and intimidated by cool group

Finally graduation

Added:

* Moments throughout HS and it turns out _ was jealous that _ had forgotten about their group. Eventually leads to moments and they finally end up together

TikTok - freshman entrance

Hey Soul Sister - sophomore entrance

Waiting Outside the Lines/ Today My Life Begins - end of sophomore year

We Are Young - end of junior year

It's Time - senior year realization song

Daylight - end of senior year

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❤️:

Crazier - freshman yr, first felt something while watching _ play this during school event

Next 2 You - junior yr; _ comes and motivates for her lead role

The One that Got Away - junior yr; realizes that __ has grown apart from them and has found new cooler friends

[zaine-m]

July 14th - Okay so I'm finally done the first season, season 2 has worse overall quality but more of my favourite characters so I think it'll be nice. Zombies 3 is coming out tonight so I'll probably watch that and I make make some posts about my thoughts on it idk. I think they have disney's second non-binary character which is really cool

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Season 1 Episode 10: "Act 2" thoughts:

The way that Ashlyn is immediately suspicious of EJ

Carlos just trying his best as Chad

Are they just getting Big Red to do every miscellaneous job

Are Jenn and Mike gonna talk about the mental breakdown Ricky just had on stage

Why do none of the scenes have background characters, like why are they the only ones sitting in the cafeteria

Nini, stop with the prolonged stares at the audience

Also Gina great job with the acting

Gina bring a supportive queen

Why does Nini say that like there's someone in the audience who could change your life every other musical

I love how Gina giving Nini a compliment she doesn't deserve just kinda turned into an opening night tradition for them

The way Gina holds her makes me think she doesn't get a lot of hugs

Ricky, why did you like she would pick up in the middle of a musical, she's the lead of

Why are they having side conversations while they're the only 2 on stage

Nini remember "the show must go on" Don't stop for anything

Was she supposed to leave then, they look surprised

Okay I just watched that scene of HSM and that was really not what was supposed to happen

I love how you can tell that Ashlyn whose always been EJ's baby cousin has been waiting for the opportunity to talk to him like that

I was like 'aww Lynn checking on her son' but then she was just like "people are counting on you, you made a commitment". Like, ask your son how he's doing

Also there are understudies for a reason and if Miss Jenn also cast an understudy as a main character, that's on her

Honestly Lynne, fuck off

"You were hugging, I saw it" someone give Ricky a hug

"Not all couples are meant to be together"

The way that he specifically said Seb, I guess he had the next song but like we never see the 2 of them talk

Yeah his family is so amazing and supportive but imagine if you went to go see your kids musical and someone in front of you was holding up a huge ass sign

Okay so Ricky did try to tell her I guess she just wasn't looking at her phone

Gina going to help Ricky, damn, she's being really supportive tonight

Mmm, Gina being able to see behind Ricky's facade and getting him to do something that'll still make him happy. This girl does too much for a guy who doesn't care about her

It is just a musical thing where there aren't background characters. They have background dancers, they can't get them to also stand around on stage?

Come on, don't be so easily distracted while your on stage

Nini, EJ's trying his best, why are being so hard to work with

Okay so if both Kourtney and Gina are doing the curtain call wouldn't there be an extra body?

Ricky's character development, he can do the dance now, my baby

Gina and Carlos hugging

Nini, why do you think she would choose you after you stared at the audience after like every scene and you took long pauses staring off at the distance of tried to have side conversations while on stage

Why did it cut to Big Red's parents in the middle of

Ahh, Redlyn

Also EJ just scoffing at the idea that he wrote it

Nini, you never even applied to the school, now you're upset they didn't like you when you did a horrible job

no she knows what's missing, Someone who can't follow instructions and is extremely unprofessional

Ricky being upset that it's over and they won't always be in the same space together

Ahh, Ricky's monologue about loving Nini!

"Fine. That's fine. It's all fine"

At this point his obsession with him is kinda unhealthy

Why is that such a long and passionate kiss, like there was definitely tongue, right?

Oh, he did get her a gift too

Carlos inviting people to Ashlyn's again

Ashlyn telling Gina to live with her in like their first conversation, they're such U-haul lesbians

Okay, why did they leave on this big cliff hanger to have it never be brought up again. Like do they really have no idea where they're going with this show

"It's clear you have things to say" she couldn't even say she wanted to be at your school

Oh no, she has too many good things and has to choose between them, why are supposed to like her?

I'm sorry I just can't empathize with a character whose main issue is too many people liking her

Aww, Ashlyn being amazed by Big Red's dance that he was probably too embarrassed to do in front of anyone else

#hsmtmts watch through #hsmtmts season 1 #hsmtmts

[elisacifuentes]

- "You need to walk away". - "I can't do that."

#mission impossible fallout #mission impossible #ilsa faust #ethan hunt #rebecca ferguson #tom cruise #fallout #mine* #gifs* #movies #i watched hsm 1 and 2 while making this #anyway #i realised at like #the fourth time viewing this #that the reason why ethan explains all of ilsa's motivation here #is bc she literally tells him at the palais #''i can't tell you that'' #duh.

[gracestone]

Someone on reddit said about s2 that it "Seemed a lot more forced and typical “Disney channel” than the previous season which felt slightly more mature and fitting to be a Disney+ exclusive" and I think I kinda agree with this person. It feels like they are trying to target a younger audience with the new seasons (s3 gives me this impression bc they chose Frozen to be the musical). I still enjoyed s2, but I liked more s1. What do you think about what this person said?

You asked for my opinion, so I'm gonna give you my completely unfiltered one: I think that criticism of the show is bullsh*t.

HSMTMTS is a show about teenagers dealing with teenage problems while trying to put on a musical, rated as being appropriate for all ages. It's an optimistic show about basically good people basically being good to each other, and it's never been anything else. It's been incredibly consistent in its tone, themes, and storytelling. If you feel you outgrew the teenage drama genre in-between season 1 and 2, that's valid, but be honest about that and just quit watching the show. It's also valid to prefer one season over another, but I strongly disagree with your opinion on why S1 is supposedly "better" than S2.

As for that Redditor's criticism: what exactly made S2 "forced"? Something being "forced" is, in my experience, such a meaningless argument that people can almost never back up with good arguments based on what happened in a story. Often, it's code for "I didn't like a plotline but I wanna sound smart while criticising this show so I'll go with forced instead." I almost never take it seriously. Now, I haven't watched Disney Channel live action shows since the Hannah Montana/SWAC/WOWP era, but HSMTMTS is pretty different from those shows, in terms of production value and writing quality. I can't speak for later Disney Channel shows, but I highly doubt they reach HSMTMTS's quality of writing and production value. What exactly made S1 of HSMTMTS so mature? How is HSM, a Disney Channel movie about teenagers, a more mature musical than Beauty and the Beast or Frozen? And what qualities make something "fitting to be a Disney+ exclusive"? This whole criticism is way too vague and unsubstantial.

I'm gonna be honest with you, anon: unless they have verifiable insider info or speculation from an angle I hadn't considered before, I don't care about what Redditors have to say about HSMTMTS.

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts fandom discourse #ask #ngl anon if i had a criticism of this show i'd post about it myself #i'm not interested in getting that stuff in my inbox #so if i do get asks like that it's very likely you'll get a bit of an irritated response from me #it's nothing personal

[moon-livie]

Honestly, all I see is people saying they didn’t like season 2, and I really don’t get it. I’m serious when I say the only thing that bothered me was what the writers did to Rini, but I am so absolutely in love with everything else. The whole production was way bigger (I wonder how much the budget was raised), it is way, way funnier than season 1 (oh my God!), EJ CASWELL!!, I loved the new characters, the new couples, how much they’re showing Seb & Carlos, there’s a lot more music, more diverse locations, more creative episodes. And I can’t even begin to talk about the soundtrack and musical numbers! Which is what I especially do not understand why people don’t like. There were only a few songs from season 1 that I kept on listening once the thrill of it expired (ITIKYK, JFAM and some HSM songs), while ALL the songs from this season are so freaking good that I can definitely see myself listening to them forever. They’re giving a lot more attention to the play’s musical numbers than on season 1, with more props and scenarios (I mean - the Gaston rehearsal??), there are songs that have really strong theater vibes (Home and If I Can’t Love Her threw me away so I had to do a quick research and turns out they’re actually from Beauty & the Beast play on Broadway. Of course they would be!). I swear every single cast member somehow managed to get ten thousand times prettier in between seasons, there’s been more screen time to so many people. The only way I can understand why people still prefer season 1 is if they watched the show exclusively for Rini or Rina. Although I am one who literally started it because I instantly fell in love with the chemistry between Joshua and Olivia on a suggested video on YouTube - so Ricky & Nini’s slowburn was what kept me excited the entire time -, I was also a theater kid during school and for me this season is being an absolute throwback to the old days I hold in my heart and is leaving me slightly afraid of ever losing this series.  

OBVIOUSLY there were things I wish had happened and little things that disappointed me, but that is completely normal. Tim Federle doesn’t have my brain - and honestly, thank God, because I don’t know how much capable I would ever be of making this season as amazing as it’s been.

Season 2 is so much better than what I could ever expect.

#hsmtmts #hsm the series #hsm the musical #hsmtmts s2 #hsmtmts season 2 #high school musical the musical the series #rini #rina #portwell #seblos #redlyn #jennzzara #kourtney x howie #ricky x nini #ricky x gina #ej x gina #ashlyn x big red #seb x carlos #ricky bowen #nini salazar roberts #nina salazar roberts #richard bowen #gina porter #ej caswell #joshua bassett #olivia rodrigo #sofia wylie #matt cornett