Should we keep hope for Warden Ingo in Masters or not? Also, do you the sync pair for the Wardens be with their partners or the Nobles? Ah, I'm way to happy about this!
(In regards to PLA content coming to Pokémon Masters)
I AM SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS TOO OP!! Warden Ingo is obviously the sync pair that I want most. I want him so I can put him on a team with Emmet and Elesa ;-;
But I don’t know if he will actually appear, and if he does is almost certainly won’t be in the first “wave” of sync pairs.
This may get a bit long, apologies, but these are all of my thoughts. I have been speculating on Hisuian Units for a LONG time, so I have many thoughts haha. I have not spent any gems in months and have 100k+ saved up because I expected it would be a matter of “when” and not “if”, considering the Pokemas community pointing out Pokemon themselves labeling PLA as a mainline game and DeNa’s apparent contractual obligation to include mainline games.
Here is what I think below. You did not ask for this OP, but this is my mountain of thoughts.
INITIAL SYNC PAIRS
Now, I believe Akari, Rei, and Volo will be initial, obvious sync pairs.
The trailer we got shows Dawn and Lucas, and I believe they’re going to be looking at Akari and Rei.
What I’m hoping is that this isn’t used to label Akari and Rei as Dawn and Lucas alts. I don’t think they will, as this would strip them of their names Akari and Rei, and they’re already being introduced as Hisuian Units (NOTE HISUI, NOT SINNOH), but the pokemas community seems to be entertaining the idea a lot, as doing this would “confirm” the popular fanon concept that Dawn is Akari/Lucas is Rei.
And Volo, I feel like is going to be a given unit. A pokemas leak account I follow along with reshared a gif with Akari and Volo in it before the trailer reveal. But also, DeNa treats Hisui as a Region the same every other region has been treated, they will need a standout villain for their Villain Arcs.
AND, this means Hisui will get a free Legendary Sync Pair added to the menu. Just like Zinnia and Rayquaza, Ghetsis and Kyurem, and Hop and Zamazenta. Every region has one, and Hisui will need one too.
I think it will be Volo to get this. And I’m expecting it to either be with Origin Forme Giratina, or Arceus themselves; both are viable for a Hisuian VA narrative.
But if the Legendary Sync pair is not Volo, I am expecting it to be Cogita and Enamorus.
HISUIAN POKÉMON
I’ve been thinking on possible sync pairs for a while. I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t go this way at all, but I feel like Hisuian Sync Pairs will mean for the most part, this is meant to present Hisuian Pokémon too.
I am leaning towards the idea that Akari will get a Hisuian Samurott, and Rei a Hisuian Typhlosion. The promotional merchandise that we got with the game always paired them together.
(And Laventon is paired with Hisuian Decidueye in the merchandise as you can see, so I’m expecting him to be a sync pair eventually, moreso to fit Decidueye into it and round out the trio.)
I am also expecting Irida and Adaman as very initial sync pairs. And I expect their partners to be their eeveelutions.
I expect alts for them later down the line, with Origin Forme Palkia and Dialga. Or alternatively, they start with Origin Form Palkia and Dialga, and get added to the Trainer Lodge with their eeveelutions as alt sync pair rewards.
WARDENS
Going with this theme of introducing Hisuian Pokémon, I am expecting wardens to be introduced with their nobles. (Though Lord Avalugg might not be quite as big obviously… DeNa is good at giving throwaway explanations for stuff like that though)
Pokémon seems to always group their promotional merchandise and Pokémon together with the groups they were initially revealed to the public with. If you notice right now, they always release Smoliv merchandise with Lechonk and Pawmi merchandise. And Cetitan merchandise always comes out with Fidough and Paldean Wooper merchandise, etc.
If DeNa would somehow follow this pattern, that means their first warden sync pairs might end up being Mai with Wyrdeer, Lian with Kleavor, as these were the first (and only) wardens properly publicly revealed on social media.
I want every warden to get a sync pair. Of course a lot of people are probably hoping for that. All in all, that would be 10 sync pairs just for them though, and that is a lot just for the wardens. Considering Galar only has 31 sync pairs right now (15 if we are not counting alts), this could take a LONG time to get all of them, if we ever even do.
And as much as I want Warden Ingo immediately, I want them to go through every area and their wardens chronologically. I want every warden.
But DeNa has to be aware that there is a considerable amount of people that want Warden Ingo as a sync pair specifically. The battle subway theme got its own remix because of their popularity. I hope they play into this marketability and make Warden Ingo’s inclusion a matter of when, and not if.
OTHER SYNC PAIRS
Of course, there are other characters that can be added besides the wardens. I am betting on Kamado being added as he was a promotional figure for the game before PLA was out. And I’m expecting him to have Snorlax. If Cyllene is added, I’m expecting abra. (Not a viable Pokémon at all, but I’m not really expecting her to be added.)
I want Zisu to be added very badly. And she has a Hisuian Zoroark on her team, which would be a great reason to include her if DeNa really does just care about Hisuian Pokémon inclusion.
Beni gets added? Gallade. Miss Fortune Sisters? Gengar, Toxicroak, Abomasnow (but that is 3 sync pairs right there so I’m NOT holding out on them). Pesselle? Crogunk. I’m not expecting any of these sync pairs as I list more of them, but options are there.
ALTS
Every regions gets alts. I am expecting alts from Hisui too.
Firstly, I’m expecting alts could introduce other Hisuian Pokémon. Their selection is small enough that I feel like some alts could be used up to try and achieve this. Overquil and Hisuian Goodra could be used in sync pairs in an excuse to make an alt. Hisuian Zoroark would be high up there on consideration I assume, but I’m really hoping they just include Zisu for that rep instead.
Secondly, I’m expecting a Ginkgo Guild Volo alt. (Or this is the base unit, and Arceus cosplay Volo is the alt) with togepi evo line as his sync pair.
I imagine DeNa could work with the narrative and include festival alts for Akari and Rei, but at the same time I don’t really expect it. Except for a few, almost every Pokemas Alt I can think of is tied to a non-canon themed event as opposed to their actual narratives within their games.
END THOUGHTS
NOW. I have some thoughts on what the narrative could possibly be for the Hisuian event, but I won’t even touch that right now seeing as how long and boring this whole post already is. Perhaps another time.
I am just really excited for more Hisui rep. I’m excited to see these characters again and get to see more interactions from them. I love PLA; it reinvigorated my love for Pokémon and helped me make so many good friends.
Its special to me, and I care about it a lot. So that said, I won’t take anything DeNa does with them too seriously. I just want to have fun with this event and enjoy my Hisui Rep, however much of it we actually get.
Thank you for the ask OP! I know you didn’t ask for all of this, but I have been hoping for this for months and incessantly snooping in the datamine community hoping for this scenario I thought would be too good to ever truely happen. We get more info on the 28th/29th, and I’m looking forward to it.
And if anyone actually read all of this, thank you!
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Different anon, I just want to say, in good faith, that no one is arguing incest is good in real life, but I think enjoying it in fiction is different. It's like liking serial killer characters, noncon or any other toxic relationship. I don't see why it should be excluded from the idea that your tastes in media doesn't reflect your values.
Thanks for commenting in good faith and for being civil. I do appreciate that greatly.
I’m afraid I disagree somewhat in this instance- and my lack of accord revolves mostly around the idea that the majority of discourse in this context is in reference to fanfiction in particular.
Something like non-consensual sex or incest presented in the narrative of a novel is quite different to a fanfiction author taking characters out of their original context and having them participate in such activities. It is not used as social commentary in a larger narrative, it is not allegorical, not a literary device… It is usually an act of indulgence in a taboo act by proxy, at least intellectually. It’s not circumstantial that beloved characters (often relatable to the author or readership) are used for these explorations.
I do understand your positioning that enjoying media and its contents is not somehow an endorsement of actions therein. I agree!
I also acknowledge that fanfiction is not necessarily “lesser” under all circumstances than published fiction. There is absolutely some shitty published work out there lol.
But I do think that the majority of fanfiction in which characters written as siblings, as in the example given, are then placed into incestual scenarios is at the very least concerning. Often people argue they are coping with sexual abuse of their own to defend such things— in that case, sure, write it, but then why are you sharing it online? The inherently collaborative nature of fanfiction authors and their readership directly encourages sub-fandom development surrounding these reimaginings. It is in this way something like incest is normalized.
Moreover, I don’t think it should be surprising that the idea that people regularly enjoy imagining sibling characters engaging in incestuous acts is disturbing to people. The sheer ferocity alone with which people defend engaging in things like this, acting as if it is a normal thing to stumble upon people doing, is mind-boggling to me?? If one can hold that it is an upsetting concept to some in their mind, why are they shocked when people do get upset?
I can appreciate there are nuances here, and I attempted to address some of these— but, simultaneously, what I think is central to the issue to me is that people who are engaging with/writing/supporting fanfiction like this are so vehemently convinced that they are being somehow oppressed when others express genuine upset and discomfort over something that is… a genuinely upsetting and discomfiting topic. It’s fucking weird to learn someone you trust regularly thinks about characters in such a way. Especially because in fandom spaces it’s often frequent, repetitive engagements— no one who is “in a fandom” has but a passing interest, lol.
And I see often the phrase “thought crime” thrown around- the idea behind this centering on the concept that even though they consider and think about incest frequently, they are not engaging in it, so they’re innocent and their thoughts can and should not be policed. I’ve also seen people who support engaging with such content say it is ableist to be disturbed by someone else’s thoughts, as some disorders cause people to have intrusive thoughts which may center on topics not dissimilar. The thing is, I don’t disagree. These concepts are rational.
The issue is that they are not quite topical: an intrusive thought is much different than regularly choosing to ruminate on and consider something regularly, repeatedly, and even frequently… as is essentially the manner in which fandom engagement functions.
I’ve experienced intrusive thoughts myself— real, genuinely disturbing ones, thanks terrible anxiety and adhd cocktail— but they are not at all characteristic of/similar to the willing engagement of writing and reading fanfiction.
Overall, that is what I take issue with the most. Fanfiction in which incest is often the impetus of a short work “shipping” related characters in a manner not constructive to any larger narrative commentary— it is incest for incest’s sake.
It not akin to finding meaning or something compelling in a narrative which comments upon the human condition and uses a toxic , complicated relationship as a vehicle or framing device with which to do so.
Fanfiction is instead often de-(or re-)contextualized, centered on the incest, and indulgent (— in the manner that all fanfiction is indulgent).
That’s what I personally take great issue with, and it’s why I have to disagree with you. Even if people aren’t “arguing incest is good in real life,” I believe for the reasons outlined above that the collaborative, repetitive, frequent engagement with incest for incest’s sake, essentially, is harmful in the way it normalizes a vile and abusive act and concept.
Thanks for reading.
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