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zmediaoutlet · 4 years

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hi z! happy new year! you think mary wanted to bone sam??? care to elaborate? will there ever be mary fic in your fhow verse? the idea of samndean both secretly boning a parent is hilarious!

hahaha I meannnnnnn

Okay, do I really actually super think Mary wants to go to poundtown with her tol son? Probably not, no. But a dear bud brought it up sort of as a joke and then we started to talk about it and, oh shit, it actually is somewhat supportable by canon, which just goes to show what a job canon is doing these past few years.

So, one of my favorite things to do is what I call “ruthlessly taking the text as text,” which is: okay, I can see what you’re intending to do, but this is what you actually did, and I’m going to interpret what you actually did because the thing you’re intending to do just didn’t work even a little. For example: the entire relationship of Mary Winchester and her sons, s12-14.

Per the text: she wants to love them but doesn’t understand them; she wants to be back with her easy babies in heaven; she misses a world that made sense. She leaves constantly and prefers them at a distance. She says, “I love you,” but why? How? These are strangers; they’re not her sons. When she gets dumped into another universe, she spends more time with Jack and the refugees than she ever spent with Sam and Dean--no wonder, when Sam and Dean break the boundary of universes and Sam literally dies in an attempt to rescue her, she says, “Actually, I’d rather stay here.”

All of which is totally in-character and reasonable. Now. What in the sam hell [no relation] was she doing in Nightmare Logic, when she was babbling to Sam about her man problems with Beret Bobby? Why was she all weird and flirty? Why is she talking to him about this? Sam puts on this small wtf expression and she’s like “oh lol right, I’m supposed to be your mom, whoops” -- but even if I’m taking it just a weensy bit out of context, that’s what their whole relationship is like! She’s not his mom--and he’s handsome and strong and reminds her of John, and I’m just saying it could tilt sideways real, real fast, if you wrote it right.

--that said, I don’t think I’m going to. The Full House is quite full enough. Still, though, you can imagine it!

#the other reason it's easy to imagine #is that sam smith isn't a good actress #and so she's aiming all sorts of weird vibes she probably doesn't intend #oh well!#sam/mary #the full house of wincest #--oh and happy new year to you too!#as your present you get to imagine #dean's face if he ever walked in on sam/mary #ESPECIALLY in a universe where john was fucking him #what even is this family #ombrecoeur

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idontneedasymbol · 7 years

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ombrecoeur replied to your post “How many soulmates does it take to start a canon debate?”

ok but now i need mike & luci gracemates fic

Heh...I fear trying to write that! Right now what the show’s done with Lucifer has ticked me off enough that I’ve cooled on SPN’s version, but the original concept of him, and what he and Michael are to each other...such is the stuff of Epics, and if I let myself fall down that rabbit hole I might never escape...!

#ombrecoeur #replies #my post #lucifer #michael #I've actually been writing Lucifer and Michael stuff for like 20+ years #wrote a sort of Lucifer/Gabriel/Michael original story for a creative writing class back in college #fallen angels are My Thing

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ohwhoopsok · 6 years

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this or that!

[sitting at the cool kids table] @zmediaoutlet tagged me!

1. coffee or tea 2. early bird or night owl 3. chocolate or vanilla 4. spring or fall 5. silver or gold 6. pop or alternative 7. freckles or dimples (I MEAN HOW NOT BOTH?) 8. snakes or sharks 9. mountains or field 10. thunderstorm or lightning 11. egyptian or greek mythology 12. ivory or scarlet 13. flute or lyre 14. eyes or lips 15. witch or fairy 16. opal or diamond 17. butterflies or honeybees 18. macarons or eclairs 19. typewritten or handwritten letter 20. secret garden or secret library 21. rooftop or balcony 22. spicy or mild 23. opera or ballet 24. london or paris 25. vincent van gogh or claude monet 26. denim or leather 27. potions or spells 28. ocean or desert 29. mermaid or siren 30. masquerade ball or cocktail party

Well now I want macarons... Hm. @ryugarika-blog @ombrecoeur and @longhornletters would you like to play?

#tag game #i feel like this should be some sort of writing challenge too... huh

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theroseandthebeast · 10 years

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ombrecoeur replied to your post: “Have you seen the movie "Adore" in which Robin Wright and Naomi Watts are lifelong best friends who start sleeping with each other's sons? I watched it last night and loved it, and kept yelling at the screen for the two women to just make out already, and also for them all to just fall into an incestuous foursome. It was great, even though none of that actually happened onscreen. It's on Netflix!”:

This movie is amazing. It's also impossible to watch it and not fall for the incestuous foursome. Yeah, the movie doesn't quite go there but that's why we have fics, right?

*moves to the top of my queue*

#ombrecoeur #replyreplyreply

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zmediaoutlet · 5 years

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hello there. what are your thoughts about fear inoculum & how do you rank tool's albums?

THOUGHTS?

Oh man. So many thoughts.

First, I really like the album! It’s very--similar to 10,000 Days, so similar that in some ways 10,000 Days feels like a rehearsal for this one. It’s Tool at their most ridiculously Tool: hypercomplex, droning, difficult, gorgeous, polished to the sharpest sheen. It’s also interesting to look at in the larger scope of their work--they started as a metal band, and they’ve ended up... I don’t even know what to call this. Someone said “stoner drone” and I can see that. I don’t personally partake, but I can totally imagine someone putting on the album and smoking a bowl and drifting on the wave of it for the whole hour+26.

Second, though, I still haven’t been able to fully grok it. I’ve probably listened to it--six times, all the way through? But it’s so weird to not know a Tool song inside and out that sometimes it feels almost impenetrable. It’s so familiar (I was playing it when my mom visited one day, and she paused and smiled and said, “hey, this sounds like Tool”--indeed, mama), but I don’t know it. Strange sensation. So far I think my favorite songs are Invincible and Descending, but that could so easily change. I like Tempest a lot (...I really don’t want to spell it Seven-empest) but I start to lose concentration around minute 8. Drones. :)

As far as ranking--oh man. Can I even do that? Part of the problem is that there were huge stylistic jumps between some of the earlier pieces. I totally and completely LOVE all of them, but they’re so different--it’s like saying which is your favorite show between The Good Place and Westworld and, like, Top Chef. How do you rank those?

A vague--maybe?--possibly?--ranking:

LateralusAenimaUndertow10,000 DaysFear InoculumOpiate

...Except as soon as I wrote that down I was arguing with myself. How could I possibly put Schism above Forty-six & 2, or Rosetta Stoned below Sober? Yeah, I can’t. Tool is Tool, I heart them all equally. F.I. will need to become seated under my heart, but it’ll be equal there too, one day. I’m looking forward to it.

#tool #music #one thing that's also interesting #which i guess i'll add as a post script #is how restrained maynard is on this one #they've really foregrounded the music even more than usual #i'm going to see them in october #maynard usually stands behind a screen #maybe for this tour he won't even be on stage at all #that's how marginalized he is on the album #a good thing?#hard to say #but again #very tool #ombrecoeur

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zmediaoutlet · 5 years

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you saw endgame! please share with the class! assemble!

haha, okay, well–here’s some thoughts, since we’re far enough out that I don’t think this will be too spoilery for people – but it’s gonna be super long, so it’s under a cut, either way:

Well, it was–spectacular! In that it was literally a spectacle, for one thing. I had pretty lowered expectations after not particularly enjoying Captain Marvel (it was fine, but boring) or Infinity War for that matter (better-made, but the stakes were obviously nonexistent because we knew something was going to be done). Here, though… I just really, thoroughly enjoyed it. It was thoughtfully done, well-executed, and just as a moment of payoff for those of us who have been here all ten years… It was just really something. I saw Iron Man on opening weekend in 2008 and fell in love, and even if I haven’t loved every single movie since then, I feel like Marvel just sent me a love letter, and I was so–glad. What a good movie-going experience it was.

I say all that having seen SO MUCH rending of garments and gnashing of teeth from the !stans and shippers, but all of that’s so very much missing the point. This is the story of *this series*, this great arc that led to this point. The thing to remember is that the MCU is fanfiction itself–it’s based off of characters who are based off of characters from a canon that’s been rebooted and re-blended about a billion times. This is the story this group of fic-writers, essentially, chose to tell, and I think they did it pretty damn well. You can write your own fic where Steve weeps into Bucky’s hair for 70 years if you want to. This story isn’t that, and that’s okay. (Genuinely, if fandomites could take like half a step back they’d be much happier people. I know it’s hard–I’ve been in a process of letting go with SPN that I haven’t really managed to do well–but c’mon. Don’t get so het up about it.)

Some things:

1) I was genuinely impressed with the time travel mechanism, especially as it bounced meta-ly off of other examples we’ve seen in pop culture. Finally, a story that allows ACTUAL alternate-universe time travel instead of boring-ass time loops. I’ve always thought it was spectacularly dumb when the worry is “but if I kill myself in the past, I’ll die now!” Nope! Avoided! Thank you, folks. It’s kind of weirding me out that so many people online seem confused about how the time travel worked, but it was incredibly clean and I just want to high five the people involved. The one thing that seemed like a plot hole was Old Steve at the end, with the implication that he was co-existent in this timeline for 70 years (and did nothing about Hydra??)–but then the Russos said that they assume he went to an alternate timeline, and then came back to this one to give Sam the shield. It wasn’t on screen either way so you can make your own headcanon, but I’m good with that. So: successful time travel. Hoo-fucking-rah.

2) Thor. This was the one real spoiler I had going in, that Thor Got Fat. All this weeping about how he’d been mistreated by the narrative. So, I was pre-emptively worried… and then ended up not thinking it was that bad. Look, I’m a chubster, I’m well-aware of how sensitive that can be for people. What I found interesting about it was that it was, yes, kind of a visual joke, just because The God of Abs was a pudge, but it was actually treated remarkably kindly by every character for whom that would be in-character. Meaning, sure, Rocket makes fun of him, and Rhodey’s kind of a dick (because Rhodey’s like that with Tony, even)–but Bruce, Steve, and even Tony all deal with him quite gently. That scene where he tries to volunteer for the gauntlet and Tony carefully holds him back was so sweet and sad. Poor guy. It was a good exploration of the depths that the last ~10 years of his life have pummeled him into. It wasn’t that he was fat, it’s that he was broken. People will make up their own minds about the equivalencies there and what’s being implied, but it was a good visual metaphor as far as I was concerned. If he were “just” a sad drunk no one would have believed that he wasn’t ready for what was coming, and he wasn’t. But he got better, because his friends really were there for him. (Also, Korg was wearing Taika’s pineapple shirt! I hope there are nice fics where Korg and Maik gently just play XBox with Thor because that’s all they can do for him.)

Also on Thor, re: Thor/Loki – more rending of garments about how he didn’t go see Loki. Let’s think about this: you’re on a top-secret time mission to save the universe (Time Heist!), and you go see your trickster god little brother who, yes, you miss, but who also hates you at this point in his life. That’ll go well. I completely understand why there wasn’t a scene. The scene with Frigga was all I needed there.

3) Steeb: I’ve never been the… biggest fan of Steve. I mean, he’s fine. His character is caught awkwardly between the man, Steve Rogers, who abhors bullies and will break rules to do what’s right, and between The Man, Captain America, who kinda Is Rules and needs to do what’s right but also represents an idea greater than himself. There’s a lot of wonderful tension there, but the movies haven’t particularly capitalized on it, and when they’ve tried it’s been in a lip-servicey way.

That said, this movie deals with it really, really well, I think. At the beginning he’s trying to live, and isn’t doing a great job of it. The plan they come up with is simple, perfect heroism – he’s not representing an Ideal, but he is one: he’s the man and the ideal simultaneously, that striving toward right will eventually create a more just, fairer world. If sacrifice is required he’s willing to make it. That scene of him standing alone against the massed forces of Thanos with his broken shield strapped tight to his arm is like a distillation of who Captain America should be. I’m so glad we got that, at the end.

As someone who doesn’t invest in Steve/Bucky but who completely understands it, I also see no issue with the thing where he goes back to Peggy. Bucky understands, too. That moment where they hug and he tells Steve, so-softly, “I’ll miss you,” oh man, oof. Bucky knows. I hope there’s a lot of pining!Bucky in that fandom, y’all are missing out on a STELLAR opportunity if not. Especially pining!Bucky where Steve knows and can only do his best to be Bucky’s friend. Steve going back isn’t out of character, either, despite the clamoring. He misses Peggy, he misses peace. Who knows what they got up to in that alternate timeline–maybe he and Peg went and routed Hydra early, maybe they saved Bucky, maybe they had a WWThreesome with Buck, whatever. But Natasha and Tony both told Steve to “get a life,” and he finally got to. He’d done enough. He earned it.

4) OH MY GOD, NATASHA. What a character arc. I friggin’ adore the mirroring of her and Clint’s stories. The brutal assassin who gained a family and learned what it meant to love something so much she wanted to sacrifice herself for it–those scenes on Vormire were heartbreaking. I’m also super glad that the movie paused, after that. Someone called her death “fridging” – wow. No. She was a hero, as much as Tony was. Whatever it takes.

5) Tony. Holy shit. In a lot of ways this was his movie–in a more meta way, it was RDJ’s movie, and Favreau’s, and Feige’s. It all started with Iron Man, and that’s where it ended. There wasn’t a stinger scene because we got that funeral and then the moment in the credits with the originals signing the screen, and of course they saved Robert for last. The success of this movie is really a testament to the risk everyone took, way back then. It sure as hell paid off.

“You wouldn’t lay down on a grenade to save your men,” Steve said. How many different ways can Tony prove him wrong? At least once more. ;-; I’m just super emotional about the whole thing. So many good moments all leading up to what happened. Little Morgan in his helmet, Pepper’s faith. Steve’s faith, for that matter. (I still have a tiny pocket of my heart reserved for Steve/Tony, no matter how non-canon it is. What a great relationship they have.) The panic and misery when Carol brought them back, calling Steve a liar, and Steve just–gentle with him, again, and how there was no anger there anymore. Argh.

That’s the thing that I think I appreciated about the movie most, in the end. Despite all the craziness, the spectacle, the easter eggs slinging at you left and right (”Hail Hydra.” !!!!!!!!!!!!!), what I loved most is that in the face of this ultimate goal, this literally universe-saving moment, the stakes were actually felt because the characters (and actors, and script) sold how unimaginably important it was. Interpersonal bickering fell by the wayside; any dumb conflicts just washed away. No drama for its own sake, or manufactured arguments. Just–working together. The Avengers we hoped to get in the aftermath of the first team movie. We got ‘em, finally, even if we lost a lot too.

This all sounds super elegiac, I guess. It sort of is. It wasn’t a perfect movie by any means, but it might be perfect for what it meant to do, and what it set out to do. There were a couple of little nitpicky things that I might change, but they’re so small so as not even to be mentioned. And so many more tiny moments that I loved, loved, loved. It’s the first one of these movies that I’ve wanted to rewatch in literal years, and that’s making me really happy all on its own. I’m just left with this utter… satisfaction. Not sad, just happy that they made it worth my while.

Put another way: when I was leaving Shazam I felt like I’d spent about 4 hours wasting my time. When I was leaving Endgame, I felt like it had been an instant. Just yay, all ‘round. I loved it three thousand.

What did you think?

#ombrecoeur #avengers #endgame spoilers #...i have a sneaking feeling i could get hate for this #pls note that the views above are the sole property of etc etc #i just really liked it is all #just a lot #i keep thinking about it #keep thinking about little moments that were great #and if that isn't a satisfying movie experience idk what is

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