#q slur discourse

[weird-grrrl]

If someone says "I don't want to be called queer" and you make an effort to call them queer even more than before, you are a contrarian douchebag and no different than homophobes who spit on gay people in public.

#radfem do touch #radfem please touch #q slur tw #you can call yourself queer all you want! just don't call other people queer if they ask you not to!! #its not even discourse at that point #you are just being a fucking dickweasel #q slur discourse #q slur

[takaraphoenix]

There is not a single good reason to tag a queer positive post with “q slur” and it’s honestly such a red flag if you do this.

No seriously. There is absolutely no reason to do this. Ever. At all.

If you, personally, don’t want to be called queer, that is your prerogative. If this is a word that has hurt you before and that genuinely triggers and upsets you, there are things you can do to improve your own online experience. One of them would be, oh I don’t know, not putting posts containing that word onto your own damn blog by reblogging them.

If you do not want to be included among queer people, then you shouldn’t include yourself in a group that self-identifies as queer. Which is what you do by reblogging queer positive posts; none of these posts were talking about you, personally. They are talking about queer people. And if you feel the need to reblog them, then you include yourself among these queer people. Go reblog posts with the alphabet soup acronym if that is what you, personally, feel suits you better. You could literally just not reblog a post that contains the word “queer” and talks about queers.

You don’t have to ever interact with a post discussing queer themes, queer people and queer identities. If you find the term queer so very offensive and lack context-reading skills that would help you see that queer people proudly calling themselves queer is actually in no way or shape the same as someone using it as a slur, you even have the tools to avoid ever seeing any post containing the word queer by blacklisting not just “queer” as a tag but also filter it as content, which thus will block any post that anywhere at all contains the word “queer”.

I will 100% assume you are an exclusionist or a TERF if you still end up reblogging a queer positive post and tag it as “q slur”. Because you had choices here - not reblogging a post containing the word “queer”, blacklisting the tag “queer”, filtering for post content containing the word “queer” - but you chose not to do any of that, you chose to reblog a queer positive post and then tag it as “q slur”, and at that point, exclusionism and TERF ideology are literally the only reasons left why you would do this.

And the thing is that, scrolling through those blogs, especially through the “q slur” tag, usually shows that they are, in fact, exclusionists and TERFs. It’ll start soft enough with posts complaining that they don’t want to be called queer, which is reasonable enough, isn’t it? Then the rhetoric on the posts about not wanting to personally be called queer changes and gets more aggressive. Then it’s about not calling other people queer at all because you don’t know if they want to be called that (even though, let me point at the above where you could just not include yourself in posts about queer people). It then turns more into complains about comparisons when it comes to reclaims, how it’s “totally not the same thing” to reclaim gay and lesbian as it is to reclaim queer (even though it is. It literally is the same thing as we are reclaiming our identities that have been wielded against us). At which point it just escalates into flat-out open exclusionism because uh actually there is no need to reclaim queer at all, LGBT suffices entirely because no other letters are needed and if you aren’t L, G, B or T then you can’t reclaim queer anyway.

A--and there it is, the toxic TERF and exclusionism mentality, saying what they really mean. They don’t want queer people to exist. Period. Only the nice, clean lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender people (though in enough cases, if you continue scrolling, you’ll reach the part where they too will be excluded). No complicated, other identities, only the “proper” and “good” kinds, eh?

Reblogging queer positive posts and tagging them as “q slur” is just the conversation starter here. The rat-tail that follows the “q slur” tag is like a meticulously crafted conversation to turn other people away from queer and to instead turn them toward exclusionism and TERF ideology and it’s insidious.

Because yes, queer has been and most likely still is being used as a slur in many parts of the English speaking world. And I’m sure there are many people who are genuinely traumatized by the way others have used this word against them. But if people in fandom spaces can manage to blacklist characters and ships they dislike, then people with genuine triggers or people who take genuine personal offense at as much as seeing a word - regardless of its positive context - should also be capable of blacklisting and avoiding those for them upsetting words. Because tumblr gave you the tools to not have to even see it literal years ago at this point.

So, if you’re not taking these easy measures to avoid the word? It clearly doesn’t actually bother you all that much, I’d say, because otherwise you’d take measures to avoid having to see it and you most definitely wouldn’t go out of your way to put posts containing it onto your blog.

You chose to still see these posts containing the word, you chose to interact with these posts, you chose to reblog them and put them on your blog, but you still feel the need to tag it as “q slur” by not recognizing the difference between a word used as an actual slur and people talking about their own lived experience in a positive light, and there is literally absolutely not a single good-faith read on that left for me. At which point I am going to use the tools given to me by tumblr and block you to avoid you ever interacting with my queer posts again.

Because I’m a queer woman and I take offense in you calling my identity a slur.

Happy fucking pride to all queers. Exclusionists and TERFs die mad about it. 🌈

#Queer #Queer Discourse #Q Slur Discourse #Rainbow Stuff

[perfect-bi-paradise]

I swear, you can type out the most sensible reasons why you don't want to be called qu**r, and privileged shit people will call you three other slurs and send anonymous "kill yourself messages" while claiming you're some how the bigoted, hateful one. I'm not a fucking slur, I am a trans nonbinary bisexual who loves who I love regardless of gender. I'm not interested in reclaiming the term qu**r, and I don't appreciate spoiled children and enabling tone deaf narcissistic adults who know better trying to force a term onto us that we have repeatedly asked them not too. You're not being "quarky" or "weird" when you choose to disregard our right to not reclaim a violent, anti-LGBT slur, you're just showing how much of an entitled bunch of assholes you truly are.

#battleaxe bi #lgbt #lgbt discourse #anti mogai #queer is a slur #q slur #q slur discourse #q slur mention #anti slurs

[hoarder-of-stories-27]

If you find yourself wanting to tag a queer person’s post with “q slur” or “q word”, please instead remember that Tumblr has a built-in post filtering system. People can filter out any post that has the word “queer” in it, if necessary! Xkit even has an option to completely avoid showing the post on the dashboard at all! You don’t need to add those tags. Please don’t.

#queer discourse #q slur discourse #q word discourse #<- content warnings not invitations for bigoted reblogs #/homophobia #my posts #-responsible

[raviosprovidence]

"you don't use queer because you're so desperate to be normal!!!" if you had to partake in one conversation with me irl your bones would melt from how weird and cringe I am

#y'all are so desperate to paint this generalizing picture of how all people who don't reclaim queer act and think #that you're just as bad as cishet people who generalize the entire community #'anyone who doesn't reclaim queer is a terf!!!!' /ignores any trans woman who doesn't reclaim queer/ #'anyone who doesn't reclaim queer is an exclusionist!!!' /ignores all the ace/aro people who don't use queer/ #'anyone who doesn't reclaim queer doesn't want us to be united!!!' /who am i kidding y'all are just saying shit at this point/ #there are plenty of lgbtq+ people who do reclaim queer and respect people who don't use it and this post isn't about them #this is for all the rest of y'all who see one person be uncomfortable with a slur and go absolutely balls to the wall nuts on them #q slur #q slur discourse #lgbt+ #lgbtq+ #sorry for getting political on this blog im just so fucking tired of being disrespected by my own community #and having things be assumed about my political views because i don't reclaim a fucking slur

[lily-orchard]

So do you tell black people not to use the n-word to refer to themselves or other black people? Racists still use it, so it must not be reclaimed since they still benefit. Lots of people still use gay, lesbian, and homosexual as a slur. Spastic and cunt are slurs in some areas but not in others, so who's right and who's wrong?

I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to change the subject in the hopes I'll misspeak and you can scream that I'm telling black people what to do.

That having been said:

When white people use the N-Word, they're immediately recognized as a racist. Decades of work at reclamation has rendered the N-Word nonexistent from the instinctive vocabulary of most people, and you have to desensitize yourself to be comfortable with it. White people not saying it is a bare minimum standard of basic fucking decency.

Furthermore, it's used entirely on an informal, casual basis. The Junior High/High School/College courses are called African-American/Canadian studies, and not... you get the idea.

Further-Furthermore, if someone were to ask you not to use it around them, that doesn't become a problem.

Further-Further-Furthermore, you can dissallow it in your spaces and nobody complains. The N-Word is banned in my Discord server and messages containing it are auto-deleted by a bot that does not check if you're white or not. Nobody complains.

If all of these things applied to the Q-Slur... I'd have a lot fewer complaints. But we don't do that.

LGBT studies are still called "Q---r Studies" for some reason.

Straight and cis people use it constantly with no pushback.

It's often reclaimed by people who have no business reclaiming it (it's a slur against gay men after all)

It's used in formal, presumably professional settings like articles where other slurs are not.

And when someone objects to it's use either directed at them or as an umbrella term people get really pissy about it and start throwing around accusations.

The fact that all of these things are true is an indication that the word hasn't been reclaimed. Reclamation means something.

Furthermore, and I find this rather telling, when the whole "is tr*p a slur" discourse was going around, there was the claim from weebs that trans people should "just reclaim it." The expectation being that if we did, weebs would be able to keep saying it freely, which is not how reclamation works, but IS how reclamation of Anti-LGBT slurs is often treated.

The general attitude of the N-Word is "That's our word, you have no right using it."

The general attitude of the Q-Slur is "Ugh! It's not a slur anymore! Just get over it! That's TERF rhetoric!"

These are not comparable situations. And the only way they can be compared is to demonstrate how gays are terrible at reclamation. Maybe if we actually reclaimed it, that would be a different story. But we haven't. We just said we have and done none of the work.

If you want to reclaim the Q-slur, THE FUCKING DO IT YA LAZY BITCH!

#q slur #q slur discourse #tw - q slur #tw - n word

[xqueerneurosisx]

I’m actually super fucking tired of people thinking they own our whole community. Community is more than individual identity. It’s not your community!! It’s our community! Your identity is only part of the whole story. Queer is part of the whole LGBT+ community. That’s not going to stop happening just because your selfish ass can’t fathom other ideas than your own.

It’s not all about you!! Queer is on the wall, because people are queer, not because you personally believe it’s a challenge against your own identity, or whatever the hell. Fuck off and let our queer community be queer in peace.

#queer word #queercourse #queer is a slur #queer is not a slur #q slur discourse #queer discourse #queer as in fuck you #queerphobes fuck off

[gnometa233]

Bruh the internet lied to me about the whole "you have to get over yourself and be called queer" shit

In real life? I've never once been disrespected about not wanting to be called queer. And there are a lot more people out there who DON'T want to be called that word than you think. It's incredible how irl experiences don't line up with what people say online. And I live in a blue, progressive state!

So what the hell happens online, where you'll be harassed and called a TERF if you just say that you don't want to be called queer?

#queer discourse #q slur #q slur discourse #lgbt #lgbtq

[spookyradluka]

Other people can't reclaim the q word for me and others you dumb fucks

"The entire LGBT community reclaimed it" who tf told you that line of bullshit

#q slur #q slur discourse #queer

[lostryu]

Personally, I love calling myself queer. It is liberating and makes me feel excited about who I am. It is upsetting when people tag my identity as a slur.

For starters, anon, I am so happy that queer makes you feel empowered and content with yourself! I am not saying that people cannot identify as such, I am saying not everyone has the exact same feelings when it comes to slur reclamation. We are not a hive mind and while you take comfort in it, others do not. The tagging system is a way for others to protect themselves or friends, and a way to filter things out when said people are not in a good space to interact with potentially triggering content.

Here’s an analogy for lack of a good way to explain. Say you love the rain. You love splashing in the puddles, getting wet, and sailing little leaf boats in the gutter. Any time there is a rainstorm you are the first outside.

Alex, however, does not like the rain. It could be a personal thing, like they don’t like how the water sticks to their skin, the sound or smell, or maybe they had a terrible accident during a rainstorm. Regardless you both are friends.

Because you respect Alex’s boundaries, when you both need to go outside during a rainstorm, you don’t say anything when they put on their rain jacket and boots. You don’t rip their jacket off and insist that they take joy in the rain no matter what. You respect their boundaries, and when you need to cross a puddle, you’re always the first to lay your jacket across so Alex can walk safely through it without getting wet.

Above is an example of why some people tag for slur usage. They might love using the word queer, but out of respect for friends that do not, they still tag accordingly. There is nothing bad about this basic respect and chivalry online. If you are that upset about someone caring about other people, you need to sit down and reflect.

#ask #anon #q slur #i guess this is discourse? #q slur discourse #idk i just think mutual respect isn’t something we should forget

[takaraphoenix]

I am just seriously genuinely baffled by how many people have, in this past month, proven me right about my “there’s no reason to tag a queer positive post with ‘q slur’“ post. It really truly is nothing but a dog whistle.

For the span of this Pride Month, I’ve been giffing my favorite queer canon characters and my favorite queer headcanons. With queer in the headline.

And every single person who has reblogged one of those GIF sets and tagged it with “q slur”, it took less than ten posts scrolling through their “q slur” tag and BAHM there it is, the aphobia, the exclusionism.

It starts so simple with “queer is a slur, I’m just trying to warn others who may be triggered by the usage of it uwu”, into “actually people just shouldn’t say queer”, into “only L, G, B and T people could even reclaim queer so you can just say LGBT”, which is then followed by the full on exclusionism of denying aspec identities and, often enough, also gender identities that go beyond a nice “clean” trans.

Every. Single. Time. It’s the exact same rhetoric, the exact same manner of slow escalation on the posts, from trying to appear mindful and like they’re trying to help others, until you reach the point of “I don’t want queer people to exist, if you’re not L, G, B, T, you shouldn’t exist, you’re not valid”. Every time.

They’re not all identical posts. That’s the terrifying part. There are countless people out there making eerily similar posts that spiral and countless people who will reblog them.

Some of them even have the gall to say “TERFs DNI” on their blog description (which goes once again to the “don’t trust everything people put in their description because people can lie actually”), just for their blog to devolve into hella TERFy rhetoric.

I talked about it at length in the other post, as a warning that this behavior will just be seen as a red flag by me, but this time around, I’m really trying to appeal to the few people who might use the “q slur” tag out of the genuine attempt to “help” because they’ve seen others do it - please, go to those others, actually click the tag and read through their posts and read between the lines of those posts.

Yes, the people who so far tried to argue with me “but some people tag to be mindful!” very quickly did show their true exclusionist colors, but I actually do believe that there are people who follow the trend because they may think that it’s “the right thing”, and I really do need these few people to reevaluate this. To take a closer look. To question things. And to stop tagging queer-positive posts as “q slur”.

And, to ease their worries about people who may genuinely get triggered by the word “queer”; don’t worry. Tumblr gave people with triggers the tools to not see posts tagged with or containing the word. If someone is truly bothered by the word, they can curate their own online experience and they do not need you to play middle man for them!

#Aphobia #Exclusionism #Queer #Q Slur Discourse #I hope this is the last post I'll do on this #but seriously I felt like the last post #didn't FULLY aim at the people who were led to believe #they did the right thing #so I'm trying again to maybe convey it better #also I'm just uncomfortably upset #with just how many people #have such an insidious spiral of posts on their blog??

[shaftking]

Lesbian, not queer.

Gay, not queer.

Bisexual, not queer.

Transgender, not queer.

Questioning, not queer.

#personal #anti queer #q slur #q word #q slur discourse #lgbt #lgbt pride #pride month

[nyxisadyke]

i don’t get why people who reclaim q***r are so offended when other people don’t, like if someone is saying no one should use it ever then sure that’s dumb but there’s so much anger directed at people who just personally don’t use it for various complicated reasons. when i meet a lesbian who doesn’t reclaim dyke i just go “okay chill” and don’t call them that, then continue using it for myself like an adult capable of being normal about things

#like you can go to queer studies class and drink from your target queer pride mug and talk to the other 95% of lgbt people who reclaim queer #and i’m sure you’ll get over it #q slur discourse #q slur

[makiruz]

Oh my god, the joke that Jerry Seinfeld claims he was cancelled for was saying that people that are always on their phones look like "a gay French king" and people say "gay" isn't a slur

(Also, Jerry needs to learn is not 1996 anymore)

#rants #q slur discourse #queer #slurs

[lily-orchard]

I saw this post about how people not wanting to use LGBT slurs is like gentrifying our history and those who don't want it are just traumatized and want to assimilate, and they're gonna say it anyways- And I just thought "You sound a lot like edgy bros who would go 'I don't care if I offend you by calling you dude'"

I'm gonna let self-hating gays in on a little secret: If you'd stop allowing and even encouraging cishet people to say it... we'd be complaining a lot less you stupid, self-deprecating, therapy-needing, fucks!

#q slur discourse

[shrimpmandan]

The more I think on it the more I just really hate 'q slur' discourse, because more and more of it is list becoming semantics.

Whether or not you consider queer to be a slur that does not change the fact that several LGBT people have had it used to harass, threaten, bully, or degrade them. That doesn't change the fact that it has been screamed at LGBT people while they were being beaten or killed. WHETHER IT'S A SLUR OR NOT DOES NOT MATTER. It is nothing more than semantics to attempt to distract from the point of "don't call people what they do not want to be called."

I'm so tired of supposed radical inclusionists being, ironically, exclusionary by lumping every single LGBT person under the word "queer", when a good portion of the community does not identify with that word. You are not a radinclusionist if you exclude people from the community who you disagree with politically or who don't have the same level of privilege as you. You are a hypocrite.

#tw q slur #q slur discourse #q word discourse #lgbt discourse