#re creation spoilers

[aalissy]

Okkkkk but what happened to Lila at the end????

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[deermiraculouswhen]

BE NOT FUCKIN AFRAID

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[ninadove]

If the woman next to Nathalie is indeed Amelie and Emilie is still dead, how do you imagine Amelie and Felix will redecorate The Agreste Mansion? (Assuming that they move there since Amelie is now Adrien’s only adult relative left.)

Oh my gosh Anon. That is SUCH a cute ask, but let me tell you, you have opened Pandora’s box and unleashed 50 levels of overanalysis upon the world. Time for me to turn into an architecture and interior design major for the sake of this post.

In order to get a good sense of Amelie’s taste and of the massive work that needs to be done, let’s compare the shared spaces in the Agreste mansion to those in the Graham de Vanily penthouse.

The first thing that strikes me is that the palettes are exactly the same: white and black are the dominant hues, with a pop of colour coming from earthy tones. And yet, the two atmospheres could not be more different! In my opinion, this boils down to a few key elements: lighting, shapes, space, and purpose.

1. Lighting

The most obvious one. Just look how miserable the Agrestes’ living (?) room looks in comparison to the Graham de Vanily’s. There’s an interesting subversion here when it comes to lighting sources.

The Agrestes’ mansion relies mostly on natural lighting, which gives it a greyish, depressing look. Windows are everywhere, and they’re big, but they aren’t meant to let the sun filter through; instead, they ressemble a cage keeping Adrien in.

Sunlight represents the outside world, which Gabriel "No one matters except us" hates. In his mind, whatever looms outside of the mansion is dangerous. Hawkmoth’s attacks always start with letting the light in, the same way he welcomes his victims’ negative emotions; while he keeps Emilie safe in the crypt, as far away from the sun as possible (even when we do see it fully illuminated, it has to come from an artificial source).

Emilie’s cosy little basement, Gabriel’s office and Nathalie’s room — the adults’ world — are the only spaces that get the courtesy of significant artificial lightning. In other words, there is not enough light and joy coming in from the outside, and definitely not enough coming from the inside to compensate. Which is super sad if you ask me.

Now onto the Graham de Vanily penthouse. We do not get many shots of it, and most of them are taken at night time, which I (want to) believe is a very conscious choice on the writing team’s part.

While Gabriel refuses to let sunlight, and everything good it symbolises, into his son’s life, Amelie welcomes the night and the potential dangers it carries with it. The windows make up two entire walls, offering a full view of the outside world.

Notice how the moon and stars are nowhere to be seen in this shot, yet the penthouse remains significantly brighter than the mansion on the sunniest day. The abundance of artificial light in the Graham de Vanily home, light that comes from within, is a symbol of the love they share as a family.

So obviously, we need to get Adrien some lamps, urgently.

2. Shapes

The thing about the Agreste mansion is, it has potential.

No really. Hear me out.

The use of straight lines (vertical in the overall architecture, expanding like sun rays in the minimalistic decor) is reminiscent of Art Déco, which is a very fun style. For instance, it gave us the Chrysler building:

But here, it’s just… Not working. In fact, these same lines are what makes the entire building look like a cage — not just the windows I mentioned above, but the entire structure of the place, trapped between vertical lines like behind prison bars.

On the other hand, the Graham de Vanily penthouse is ruled primarily by horizontal lines, which expand the space instead of compressing it. It’s smaller, but it feels bigger and more breathable.

This difference in structure directly contributes to my third point:

3. Space

More precisely, how it is organised to make the mansion look threatening, and the penthouse cosy.

And by that I specifically mean this AWFUL NO GOOD TERRIBLE STAIRCASE.

It’s the first thing we think about when picturing the mansion; how it towers over the characters and crushes them. There’s a reason Marinette’s act of defiance in Pretension was to rush up those despicable horrifying very very bad stairs to find Adrien; they are a symbol of Gabriel’s power over his world, his fans, his son, his victims.

Interestingly enough, the penthouse is also built on several levels — which we can infer by the presence of a very discreet mezzanine. This implies the existence of stairs, right??? Where are they???

It’s very blink-and-you-miss it — the exact opposite of the Agreste staircase. To the Graham de Vanilys, stairs are just stairs: a necessity for their comings-and-goings, a useful infrastructure in their day-to-day life as a family. Not a display of power and control.

Oh? Is that a transition I sense? Absolutely, for it is time to move on to the last part of our analysis:

4. Purpose

Just like the staircase, every single piece of furniture in the Agreste household serves a purpose. Adrien’s room is the best example of this phenomenon.

On top of the essentials (bed + desk & computer combo), we immediately notice:

- A plethora of trophies, reinforcing the message that Adrien has to be the best at everything he does, always;

- An impressive bookshelf, illustrating the top-notch (and somewhat elitist) education Adrien has been receiving at home.

"But Nina!" you might ask, "What about the fun stuff? What about the arcade games and the basketball hoop and the climbing wall?"

I hear you. Those things look pretty cool, don’t they? Until you remember that Adrien has spent his entire life in isolation. These are all appliances that would normally be found outside of the house, giving him an opportunity to socialise. In other words, they are meant to deter him from seeking enjoyment in the “real” world. If, like me, you were obsessed with N Harmonia as a pre-teen, you might notice some striking similarities to his cage room:

Still not convinced? Say hi to our friend the foosball table!

Meanwhile, on the actually loving side of the family, you get an entire piano and AN ACTUAL ABSTRACT PAINTING:

It’s not even figurative — unlike the portraits of the Agreste family members or the statue in the garden, constantly reminding us of Emilie’s absence. It’s art for the sake of art, which makes a massive difference. Things are allowed to be there for no reason other than Amelie and Felix like them.

So now that we’ve established that

How would they redecorate the mansion if given the chance?

1. Lean into the Art Déco aesthetic for a much needed dose of actual (yet elegant) fun. There are so many lines and curves to play with to get rid of this feeling of imprisonment we get from the pillars!

2. BLOW UP THOSE FUCKING STAIRS. No, really. We can find a much cuter, less pretentious alternative to whatever kind of power trip that was.

3. Get rid of the stupid bars on all those windows. Replace them with literally any other option that doesn’t make you want to choke on a pancake.

4. Also, get some lamps. Lamps EVERYWHERE, on the walls, on the ceiling, on the furniture. The resident vampire is GONE, we can have some goddamn light in this goddamn place.

5. Indulge in the pleasure of buying things just because they’re pretty. Trash the paintings and put up some actual art (abstract or not) instead. Exorcise Emilie’s ghost and Gabriel’s tacky tastes out of this place. This process has already begun, given that the statue in the garden is now gone!

6. Let Adrien decorate his own room, and have fun with it. This part may be tricky because our boy doesn’t know what he wants, but you know what, it’s part of the process! Giving him total creative control over his own space is a first step towards his making bigger decisions for himself, like choosing what he wants to be when he grows up. As requested by my ✨ awesome girlfriend ✨ @paracosmicfawn, he can also redecorate the entryway, which carries sooo much trauma for him. Maybe he can put up some cute cat statuettes along the new staircase, or something equally cheesy.

7. Build a pool, apparently

8. Last but not least, block all accesses to the basement and the attic. Hide them behind these new Kandinsky paintings they just bought. Pray to Gimmi Adrien never finds out (he will).

And that, my friend, is how you take a prison and turn it into a home full of secrets!

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[yunyin]

Okay wait one sec but didn't they say the statue of Gabe is made from melted alliances? Aren't alliances made with bits of miraculouses?

Could there be some magic in it?

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[awakefor48hours]

There’s so much potential for Lukadrien angst in the next season.

Adrien just experienced so much and I’m sure he’d love to talk to someone about his problems in relation to being a Miraculous holder and who’s better to talk to about these problems other than Paris’s best therapist and guitarist, Luka Couffaine

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[juliamex3]

I knew whether this is Emilie or Amelie would be a huge debate in the fandom but the worst part is I can't even decide which side I'm on-

Like on one hand, with only the context of the episode, I would've been 100% sure this is Amelie. My first reaction to this scene was "WHAT THE HELL" then the immideate thought after was "wait this is just Amelie that makes more sense".

For one, she's wearing black. That has always been Amelies colorscheme. Amelie wears black, Emilie wears white.

Félix is in this scene, so his mom being there as well wouldn't be strange at all.

Plus Nathalie is there, alive and well again. So I thought that was Gabriels wish. Help Nathalie. He accepted his own death and Emilies as well and gets to be with her again.

BUT we don't only have the episode itself to go off on with this. We have a model sheet and the episodes script that refer to her as Emilie.

So, like, this should 100% be Emilie right?? But that seems so weird to me?? Because would the wish work like that? Can Gabriel trade one life for two? Wouldn't that mean there is still something else off in this new universe, someone else missing? Balance and all?

But mixing up the chatacters in the script seems like such an unlikely error.

There was a scene in the story board of Adrien smiling at the woman that got cut in the finished episode.

Which, if this is Emilie, is kinda disappointing to me that it didn't make it in. This isn't the moment he reunites with his mother timeline wise, but it's the first time the viewer sees them together again, so having this little scene in it would've been nice. It's not that long, they could've saved two seconds of time somewhere else.

If this is Amelie however, and the smile would've only been there to support the fakeout, then yeah makes sense to cut it out, it wouldn't really have been that important.

Maybe they changed their mind further down in production? Maybe it was supposed to be Emilie, but they ultimately decided not to bring her back to life and reused that model to be Amelie? I have no clue.

I know this is intentionally ambiguous, the viewer is supposed to wonder. If they wanted to be clear about it being Emilie then they would've had both of them shiw up. Thomas played off it himself on his twitter.

But the uncertainty of whether or not Emilie is alive again is driving me nuts.

Honestly an insane way to make use of the fact you have characters that are twins lmao

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[badzoomergirlcoven]

YEAR OF THE EMINATH

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[nightfurylover31]

BEST LUCKY CHARM EVER! 😆

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[ty-isnt-there]

tikki and plagg, everyone.

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[wehadabondingmoment]

Adrien idolizing his dad makes sense

There has been so much hate due to the way Gabriel's abuse was handled specifically. I do agree that it should have been handled differently but I also think that Adrien's behavior made sense.

Adrien was beginning to understand his father's abuse and the effects it has had on him and he was getting so angry at him for it. With that kind of stuff, anger comes before acceptance because it's a lot like grief. Of course, this anger wasn't healthy by any means, it did feed into his overall s5 arch of trying to cataclysm people.

Adrien was beginning to be angry and then the person he was starting to hate died while defeating the bad guy (as far as he knows). Gabriel continuously used the excuse that he's doing this (abuse) for Adrien's own good, that he's just trying to protect him and for his father to die doing just that?

Of course Adrien would feel guilty for doubting his father. "Maybe he was trying to protect me by locking me up in a solitary confinement cell." "Not allowing me to date my girlfriend may have been his way of caring :)"

Adrien is gullible and emotional and feels chronic guilt. He's a perfect victim and he's written like that on purpose. Adrien Agreste is perfect and someone who is perfect wouldn't think ill of their dead father.

There used to be a lot of fan theories speculating on Emilie's morality and doubting that she was as perfect of a parent as Adrien's words make her out to be. This is precisely because Adrien idolizes and excuses people and their behavior. When someone dies, it is entirely normal to force yourself to think positively of them. To get so caught up in grieving that everything gets pushed back, all the anger and pain and you only feel worse if a bad thought does cross your mind.

Adrien has so much love in his heart and he isn't emotionally prepared to handle anything as complex as the relationship he currently has with his dad. After all, Gabriel defeated Hawk Moth, he must be good.

And this ties into the way he views Ladybug. Ladybug fights against the bad guy which means that he automatically sees her as the good guy and defends some of her more questionable actions (I could discuss this in a whole different post but alas). Depending on the season and his mental state he does have moments of doubt where he calls her out but especially when he's the one hurting, Chat Noir likes to rationalize her behavior. Even when she deserves to be called out for it.

He's essentially doing the same thing with his father that he has done all his life with everyone, no?

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[yuttikkele]

what is this happy music playing while the world is being destroyed? what is this, the end of evangelion??

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[aalissy]

Overall, I genuinely really enjoyed this finale. It was super fun to watch everyone from the different specials team up to help! I just hate the fact that Gabriel got what’s kinda a good ending 😒. Wish the man rotted in jail but ehh 🤷🏻‍♀️. Also kinda upset Adrien didn’t get to participate ☹️. Poor boy was just in a blank room for most of the finale…

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[deermiraculouswhen]

cannot believe adrien was not witness to his gf crushing his dad with a piano…. tragic

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[ninadove]

Hi. I saw your Gabriel post. While I agree, there some other points I would like to mention, in somewhat in defense of Gabriel;

First, no, I agree, he did not redeemed himself, I agree. However, in the finale, he himself stated that he crossed his own morality's line, in order to bring Emillie back. He was aware of his sctions, and somewhst of the consequences as well. It doesn't excuse it, I agree, but I would say, it's not madnes.

Secound; I think he did not "redeemed himself, but grow as a man. Minutes earlier, he was shouting about the only ones who are matters are him and his family, no matter, what the cost or who pays it. And yes, he could have brought back Emillie. Yes, he could have healed Nathalie. And yes, he could have saved himself. But at the end, HE paid the priece for his wish. My personal favorite thing was, he did not say the wish, but it was in his heart. So, yes, while I disagree with his actions and this being looked as a redemption, I rejoys he did what he did. Not because he becone a better person, but because he become a bigger one than he was before🙂

(well, it's just my oppinion, it's perfectly fine to think about this an other way, but I still like this ending very much 😊)

I kind of see what you mean, in the sense that it could have been way worse! He could have sacrified two random innocent people, or even two of his enemies (Ladybug and Chat Noir, Felix, maybe even Tomoe if he felt she was becoming a threat), healed himself, and brought Emilie back against her will.

But if you pay close attention to what Bug Noire says — this is not about sacrifice.

This is about not using magic as a way to solve your problems — the exact infraction that got us into this situation in the first place.

This is about facing the consequences of your actions, instead of running away from them.

But most importantly — this is about taking the chance, even if it is tiny, to live and make it up to Adrien.

@buggachat said it best in her Emilie VS Amelie post:

"He would rather be dead, with [Emilie], than alive and caring for his own son."

Because no one matters except them, and that sadly includes their child.

Being with his wife is what Gabriel always wanted. He won’t be around to experience the inevitable consequences of using black magic again. But Adrien will, as well as the multiple children who are now forced to lie in an effort to maintain the illusion.

And you know what? This is what I like most about the finale — how unambiguous it is that Gabriel is still the bad guy, and that the choices he made, up until the very end, will continue to impact our heroes in this new era. So many abusers "see the error of their ways" on their deathbed — but it does little for their victims, who still have to live with the consequences.

Of course, I would have preferred to see Adrien confront him. He deserved it. But I absolutely see how this can lead to interesting conflict in the next season.

[ Original post here ]

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[funkylilblob]

What the fuck is going on

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[juliamex3]

Marinette giving Gabe another chance is so in character for her! I would've been more surprised if she didn't at least try.

Did he deserve it? Fuck no, no way in hell. He very much did not. He's caused her so many problems and Adrien even more so.

Were Plagg and Tikki right to warn her? Absolutely, of course trying to make peace with Monarch at this point would backfire.

But again, it's just such a... MARINETTE move.

Marinette always gives peope a second chance, it's just who she is. She tried making peace with Chloé or Lila even when they didn't end up taking it. ADRIEN is someone she gave a second chance after their first meeting didn't go well, they wouldn't be together if it wasn't for that fact.

Marinette wants to see the good in people even when they don't deserve it, she's always been that kind.

And sure, I do believe the nightmare influenced her in some way, the nightmare was why she held back on the cataclysm, but it wasn't the ONLY reason she did it.

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