#she just likes being a victim tbh

[revvethasmythh]

Some aspects of Laudna's behavior from the most recent ep have really started to stand out to me re: her backstory. We're told basically that after leaving Whitestone she roamed to different cities and was subsequently run out of many places by the townsfolk for being...well, a creepy undead witch. This is really all we know of thirty years of her life, we have nothing more detailed than that until Gelvaan, which is also not very detailed on what exactly she was doing there. And it's interesting because this backstory feels like it's meant to elicit a lot of sympathy on Laudna's behalf--i.e. she is being wrongly chased out of places for the crime of being/looking different. But something about the way she approached Imahara Joe's establishment--sending in the creepy whispers, specifically making a bunch of terrifying "rattling noises", and responding with a smile and saying "It works every time" when they heard a noise in response--really has me like. okay. Laudna, did you get chased out of places because you were terrorizing people in those places? because it sounds like you've done this before, potentially many times, and what's "fun scary" to one person can so very easily be "scary scary" to the people on the other end of the schtick.

Laudna clearly loves people, but I do have to wonder if she experiences a certain amount of dissonance about the effects that her actions cause. She very much has this Manic Demon Nightmare Girl persona thing going on, and that delighted, manic energy mixed with her penchant for the macabre, often directed at other people where she enjoys their freaked out reactions? I think, perhaps, there were reasons she kept getting run out of places that we have not, uh, unpacked as of yet.

To go deeper with this, Laudna is a character who rarely feels like she's in charge of her own destiny. Some of this is intentional, like the repeated puppet imagery re: Delilah. But I wonder if, perhaps, Laudna is someone who has had so many things--bad things, terrible things--happen to her that she had learned to erase her own role in her life. There was nothing she could do when the Briarwoods took over Whitestone, there was nothing she could do when she was murdered by Delilah, and there was nothing she could do when she was resurrected as the undead creachure that she is today. But there are thing she could have done in the intervening thirty years to change her situation. She could have pursued threads about getting rid of Delilah for thirty years, long before meeting Imogen. She could have (somewhat) altered her behavior so she wasn't freaking people out wherever she went and maybe she could have stayed somewhere. She could have been proactive in making changes and pursuing things in her life and I just wonder if she has forgotten that she can do that for herself and that the things she does do have consequences. In ep 49, she told Imogen, "The gods have never kept us from our ability to have a choice." But she only says this to Imogen. When does Laudna finally make an active choice? When does she realized that her behavior and the consequences of the behavior are in her control? When does Laudna decide that it's time to stop being a spectator in her own story, a person that things happen to? Soon, I hope. She should be the main character of her own story, and right now she simply isn't

#I feel like I'm going to get cancelled for victim blaming but also #being scary toward people and then people not liking that feels like an excellent example of cause and effect #and tbh #even laudna's relationship with imogen feels like something that has happened TO her #what does laudna want? what are her desires? I feel like if you asked she'd respond with ''whatever imogen wants'' #which just. makes me kind of sad. I hope laudna figures out how to be a person with desires and a future that are HERS unequivocally #that can (and probably will!) include imogen. but a simple cottage raising horses is Imogen's dream #what does laudna dream of? freedom? what does that look like? does she even know? #like I said. it's SAD #cr spoilers #this is rebloggable but I'm not maintagging this

[thats-a-lot-of-cortisol]

I've been chewing on what fears the bg3 characters would be because I do that with almost every piece of media I like now.

Gale is the Beholding (hubris, pursuit of knowledge above all else, his ex can literally see everything he does in/with the Weave). You could make an argument for Desolation b/c of the orb but I think that's secondary. Wyll is the Hunt imo, but the Desolation works for him too- I think his situation is similar to that Hunter we meet whose name I'm forgetting, whose inciting incident has to do with the Dark. I thought the same thing about Karlach but I think she's Desolation instead of Hunt, both aesthetically and because she was actively betrayed and is, you know, dying. Shadowheart is the Dark. Halsin could honestly be the Lonely: he's pretty isolated from the people around him emotionally. An island unto himself etc etc. Lae'zel is the End imo. You'd think she'd be Hunt but End fits into Vlaakith's whole deal (victim of the End, avatar of the Hunt?). Astarion could be either the Buried (since that covers abuse as well, he was literally kept underground/out of the sunlight, etc etc) or the Hunt. I'm a bit undecided there. I don't know enough about Minthara to make a call on her and I don't want to just say Web because of Lolth. Slaughter, maybe? Since that fear covers war. Jaheira and Minsc are Hunt too, I think (there's a lot of Hunt but that comes with the territory when you're adventuring).

Gortash is Web and you cannot convince me otherwise. I think Orin is Slaughter but, honestly, Durge seems more associated with the Extinction to me because of Bhaal's end goal. The Desolation and the Lonely tag-teamed Ketheric's ass but he's an avatar of the End. Dame Aylin is an avatar of the Hunt, victim of the Dark, and Isobel is an avatar of the End a la the main End avatar we see (Oliver? I really need to re-listen...)

There's obviously a lot of overlap and bleed because there always is. I've been wanting to make art based off of this but it's not happening anytime soon so I figured I'd shout about it into the void a bit lol

#as far as tavs go: #dora is probably hunt? unclear #peri's stranger #corentin specifically is slaughter even though i know i said durge was extinction #candor is web tbh but a victim of the vast #io is...none? honestly? they were just a Normal Person before pre-tadpole #luka's end obviously #undecided about solace. theyre a victim of/marked by slaughter & desolation even though theyre a tempest cleric #buried? perhaps? im chewing on beholding for them too b/c of reasons i cant quite articulate rn #anyway #my post #jay rambles #bg3 #bg3 companions #bg3 characters #the magnus archives #tma #i dont think orins stranger despite being a changeling because that just enhances her killing #like. nicola's pretty damn murderous too but that's just bc she is #while orin uses her shapeshifting as a tool to kill *better* #idk if that makes sense #dribbles is stranger though (the real one AND the doppleganger. dont trust clowns kids)

[dennisboobs]

ok at the point now where looking at an image of dennis makes me want to smash my head through a wall

#ada speaks #idk how ppl exist in this fandom who don't feel bad for him tbh #which is the last thing den wants bc being perceived as weak and pitiable is devastating to him but #chasing this mfer down to give him a hug #he is so. fucked up. he has been fucked up by every adult in his life. #i think the fandom perceives him as this spoiled rich kid who had it better than most of the gang but the reality is #he was failed just like the rest of them and it's almost worse because he doesn't – and almost CAN'T – recognize this #letting the protective ego-boosting and boasting drop leads to him having to confront SO much baggage and i don't think he is mentally able #i think he DOES know deep down that everything is a lie and he has been hurt because we see that self awareness in ptsdee and tends bar #but his relationship with everyone in the gang is so strained that i don't think he would be able to have a moment like charlie did in s15 #even in tends bar there's a moment where they all recognize something is going on with him but immediately place him at the center #because he's the problem with him. anything done to him is his fault. it's not only something he reinforces. the gang does too #this must be because *dennis* has no feelings and he hates valentines day because everyone else is unlike him which makes *him* mad #the entire gang has an issue placing blame on themselves but to not even be able to conceive of dennis being hurt by them is. telling #because he's inhuman to them. it's how he's propped himself up and yet simultaneously hopes that they will see through that act #the way he reworks things in his mind so that everything is a consequence of his grand plan #means that he is always at fault regardless of whether he brushes the blame off #so he is not a *victim* of anyone else. because this was all under his control. he wasn't raped because he was initiating it. #klinsky was His Conquest. he was fourteen and she was in her fifties but he forced himself on her so that makes it His Fault. #it was a two way road. he's fourteen. and he 'entered' her. he's fourteen. but she was uncomfortable with his advances. but he was fourteen #cw csa mention

[upsidedog]

thinking abt how max is one of the most forgiving characters on the show

max needs to forgive people, she needs people to be able for the better. because she’s seen so many people change for the worse. her father from someone who was flawed but trying his best to be a present and loving parent, to a man evading fatherhood entirely, who wants nothing to do with his own daughter or ex wife. neil, from the nice new guy her mom was seeing, her friendly stepdad, to a monster. billy, everything she thought she could’ve wanted in a cooler, older brother, became her abuser. even her mom slowly became a neglectful shell of her former self. max is in a way forced to be forgiving, because if she stops giving people second chances she’ll be completely alone. not to discount that max, even without desperation, is on her own astonishingly understanding and has every right be furious and unforgiving at everyone who has wronged her, yet shows an unbelievable, frankly too large, amount of understanding to them all. just that maybe a lot of max’s experiences have conditioned her for forgiveness, even when people aren’t particularly deserving of it(billy most prominently).

#i rlly struggled to voice this. so sorry if it’s a little incomprehensible. or comes off wrong #i’ve said a million times i don’t like the fandom meanification of max but also this makes me think of the way b*lly st*ns will villainize #max for not being nice to him as if she was not treating him incredibly generously for how he was treating her #she had a bad attitude vs he was abusing her & she never tried to get back it him or tell their parents. she literally just flipped him off #these r honestly more symptoms of being a victim than max specifically being forgiving i think i am just going on a tangent tbh #ok i’m done someone give max mayfield peace and a weighted blanket

[not-poignant]

thoughts on penny from stardew valley?

sorry if thats random

I don't mind her, but I don't really have any strong positive or negative feelings towards her either. I kind of nothing her sdkalfjas

She very much comes across as a victim of emotional abuse who just wants lots of babies and children, and as someone who personally is absolutely incredibly childfree, I could not be less interested in her character motivations if I tried. She's basically power-banging the storyline of 'how to fix my own mother issues with raising other people's children well and then having a ton of my own children' and it's like - more power to her, and she's extremely sweet as a character, but like...zero relatability. Probably one of the most two-dimensional characters that you can date.

OH, and I also HATE how much she's an ableist asshole to George and the game supports that. So yeah, wants tons of babies and is ableist. Like every character is flawed, Alex is an asshat, Sebastian is rude, Shane is actively cunty towards you for AGES, etc. but given I'm disabled, I take the ableist one personally. I guess my feelings do swing a bit negative now that I think about it. I have to skip that cut-scene every time we come to it.

I skip all of her cut scenes x.x

Like I doubt I could ever put her in a story of mine, unless I was writing characters concertedly interested in having children / raising children etc. and I'm just not interested in that.

So my perspective towards Penny is like 'you're good for the people who love you and I don't really have anything to do with you as a character.' I think the only reason she'd ever really be seen in Stain for example is maybe if Alex walks past Maru and Penny in town, or if Maru brings her up.

#asks and answers #the thing about penny is mostly that she exists to be #a mother to children #and that's it #when we do see her having an interest outside of children #it's reading for escapism - which okay that's relatable #OR it's being incredibly ableist towards george #(harvey is the same tbh i have to skip that cut scene every time) #(like fuck you harvey get your hands on some better science you absolute twerp) #and i can write a version of harvey i love in my story #but i *cannot* imagine penny being capable of living if she wasn't obsessed with babies and children #i just can't do it #to me she's nothing else as a character #because she wasn't written as being anything else *other than an abuse victim who is ableist in her need to people please* #it's just not... #what i want to write #unpopular opinion #how do i content warn for me being really harsh towards a character #look i am extremely childfree #i use mods to never have children / be asked to have kids in SDV

[florenceisfalling]

its ok the situation is long behind me and i have never experienced a bad feeling about it ever 👍 (lying)

#im not trying to be attention grabbing and theres a reason im being vague its just loke #thats part of the problem #i literally wish i could scream from the rooftops how fucked it was especially since this person seems to dodge consequences #but it isnt my place to and also that would put me in a lot of danger . tbh im lucky she never published my name publicly #so i just sit here holding her address and the list of awful things she did and play a little game called Not Doing Anything #and every time someone says some dumb shit to me i wish i could beam the memories of it into their head #like. when people tell me stupid ship discourse impacts no one irl i want to immediately blast them with the absolutely fucked things - #she felt excused to do and say because of a fucking fandom stance i had and etc #when folks say that society is good to trauma victims with 'good' or soft reactions #and not to people with bad ones #i wanna shake them by the shoulders and show them just how horribly society treats soft victims too #and beam more memories into their head of what happened to people who matter sm to me #but i cant. and if i just said it all no one would fucking believe me.

[niishi]

It seems like everyone is scared to acknowledge the fact that Norton drugged Alice in the chamber and then turned into scary monster Norton.... Ppl look at Norton and all their feminism flies out the window.

#tbh i thiiiiiink #he went there to kill her in the first place #bc he accepted a job to kill some girl #which he kept trying to convince himself was morally okay bc shes rich #and norton hates rich ppl (valid) #and im pretty sure it was the journalist... #but also it seemed like orpheus was trying to help him?? #but there was like that short disorented flash where he strapped her to that chair #and made her drink that psychedelic drug #and then after she drank it he didnt look like normal norton anymore #anyways #i think character analysis on his would be so much more.... dimensional #if ppl stopped acting like hes just some innocent victim #like he can be a victim and a perpetrator at the same time #thats one of the reasons i love him so much bc... #it shows both sides #a real look at what being the victim of an abusive world can do to someone whos not willing to lie down and take it #who bucks up as much if not more than the ppl/systems abusing him #but in the process of doing that #he becomes the perpetrator to other peoples victimhood #and its just an evil cycle #its what his character is all about #thats why hes always so evenly split as someone to be pitied but also someone to be judged #ive written so many lost analysis' about him #the only thing i have left is a nortnaib fic i wrote as a character study #which is so dead on to how hes been acting in the animations we get of him

[yuridovewing]

from someone who has an early copy… it’s bad

#was this arc just personally crafted by those fans who think squilf and dovewing are evil and deserve to suffer #also tbh from what ive heard... she aint wrong. good on you dovewing #oh but you KNOW if this was reversed and ivypool did it the narrative and fandom would be like ''WOOOOOOO GO GIRLBOSS'' #i think this reaction from dovewing is honestly warranted after what ivypool did to her and tigerheartstar #but ivypool being oh so meek and begging and submissive.... thats a telltale sign that they want her to be seen as a victim #when in reality ivy would probably get pissed off and argue with dovewing. not even saying that bc i dont like her its just in character #anyways we are not making it out #sallytwo #mail

[coolspacequips]

My unpopular opinion abt the new Castlevania series ig is that I just don't have any care or sympathy for these little church goons that they were trying to humanize this time around... Like Olrox revenge kill go off, I watch u kill that boys mom minute 1 but I'm still in ur corner bbygirl! I see ur thru line.

But then his little shitty church bf sanctioning and standing by all the actions of the church and also we don't talk about the homophobia he's supporting while also being gay and also sleeping w a man his church would have (and did) sanctioned the genocide of several times over... I'm supposed to think the way he shut Olrox down was anything worth feeling bad for, I just rolled my eyes at his self righteousness. Walk away from that man, Olrox!! We saw where this manic Christian love leads, and it's what ur Abbott did (who I also don't give 1 fuck about him or his white xtian guilt especially after That LOL)

I guess I can tentatively respect that the church guard's storyline is gonna potentially be about deprogramming him, but I hate that they seemed to be posing him as correct in accusing Olrox of having no soul, when we as the viewer know it was an act of love that he didn't think he was capable anymore, after what was done to him at the hands of ppl that the church guard. To me all i felt was the heartache from his POV so common in these communities where u thought you have a Good Christian that saw you, but he still sees you as the monolith of his imaginary enemy the second push comes to shove, even though your actions have shown again and again that there's nuance to be had

#the only whites that gave gotten a pass from me is baby belmont and the speaker mom #who's daughter I'm sure will mature i want to like her but she got shackled into a plot w the abott #which means we have to spend a lot of time on his white man pain about how he had the power to do so many terriblw things and chose to do i #anyway just wanted to get this off my chest i couldn't watch it fast enough and don't remember the guards name #and didn't look it up bc i don't want someone looking for him and starting a fight w me #just sucks bc i love Olrox so much and a lot of his fan content is him w this man i can't stomach tbh #i hoped he would be different i hope he can change or that Olrox finds someone else #text posts #i don't want to get into it too much more i have to rewatch this show bc baby belmont and Annette are my kids and Edouard is so special 2 m #bls im not a hater so if u like the guard i don't care #i just have a lot less interest in these types of threads ik some ppl who have been victims of the church find them cathartic #but i often find the storyline too much in the business of comforting the oppressor being represented and find them tedious #raised in American South where a lot of the cultures being examined exist and have flavored it #particularly this time period being looked at w plantation slavery plus French and native relations being v highlighted in my region #ugh anyway let me not get started x2 plus i don't care who's side drolta is on #she's bad and unjustified just insane and likes murder and looks very hot while she does it the end #(i love her every show putting black girls in it take note of the way they treated her hair so many styles 🥺💕)

[perenlop]

augh littlecloud was one of my favorite background characters when i was younger and autism abt him is sorta returning

#hes one of the most interesting characters to me #even tho the official reason is that cinderpelt inspired him i always figured he became a medicine cat bc he was disillusioned w being a #warrior after everything w brokenstar but felt he had to become a warrior bc. well hed been pushed into it at 3 moons #and felt he owed it after watching his friends die around him but cinderpelt gave him the push he needed and she inspired him #i love their relationship too and think its interesting bc like theyre both brokenstars victims too #i wish they did stuff w clawface kidnapping her and her experience w shadowclan #and she and littlecloud bond over how they were just children in that situation and maybe even talked at that point #and cinderpelt recognized him maybe and thats part of why she helps him #also when i was a kid i liked littlecinder and tbh its still kinda cute but idk if my hcs will go there #i think they were just extremely close #echoed voice

[albatris]

ok so I did say at one point that quinn's terrifying murderer voice is the same as their customer service voice but consider. consider

I think it's actually ten times funnier if it's yvonne whose murder voice is her customer service voice

#like w quinn u get a very kind of..... sickly sweet cheery but ultimately Deeply Terrifying effect but for yvonne its just #i dont think she Planned to do her first murder she just snapped n it was a long time coming #n its her shitty fucking boss she murders #like! man yvonne puts a lot of effort into trying 2 be good and cheery and customer servicey at her job so i imagine like... #one she realises what shes doin she just kind of panics n defaults to it #murders r awkward idk!! customer service script? its just what she does under pressure lmao #like nat sometimes gets really intense social anxiety with some of his uhhhhhhh victims #when they attempt to talk to him. like hes just not a confrontational person tbh #so if theyre suddenly talking at him hes like ohhhh yeah this is Weird i hate this #like. whether the guy youre eating is a ceo who allowed a bunch of deaths or some shifty motherfucker at a bar #eating someone is fucking Awkward if they notice youre about to do it #so yeah nat and yvonne r both kinda stressed abt it all so i think customer service murder yvonne is valid #this sweet woman in a flowery turtleneck just very apologetically setting you on fire in a flustered customer service voice #oh has she lost a valued customer. are you going to take your business elsewhere. awwww. she's so sorry youve not enjoyed #your experience Being Set On Fucking Fire By Yvonne Tozier. can she offer you a 20% off coupon to make up for it #quinn leans into the dead inside aspect of sickly sweet customer service voice for murders #yvonne is just panicked and its usually what she has to default to when people are freaking out at her at work so!!!! #a rental car takes a left down rake street and disappears

[milowing]

"in the original myth medusa was a rape victim!" i'm literally banging my head against the wall

#you know there are ACTUAL rape victims in greek mythology you could be focusing on rn right??? #but hey these people think persephone and hades are a romance so i dont think they actually care #“feminist” greek mythology retellings that are actually more misogynistic than the original myths i hate you sm #incase ur wondering i saw a stupid tiktok and all the comments were like “i feel so bad for her she's a such a victim” and just... ugh #tbh i feel like it's pretty weird that u aren't chill with medusa just being a monster but whateverrrr #if u want a sympathetic monster the minotaur is right there #also like... it just doesn't make any sense... if medusa used to be human explain her sisters #if athena was trying to protect her why did she help perseus kill her #this also kinda goes into the whole phenomenon of thinking “men” in historical contexts means men and not humans #like artemis isn't textually a lesbian #(altho i dont actually care if u hc artemis as a lesbian i just think we need to keep historical context in mind when interpreting myth) #greek mythology #medusa #milowing

[jtownraindancer]

hello! i would LOVE to watch jamestown but am a little apprehensive because of possible triggers? so i thought i'd ask! is there anything i should watch out for? in the vein of like... sexual assault, hate crimes (tho this is a given bc period piece but like. how violent would it get?), and frequency of character death? thank you!

​ Hello Anon!

Absolutely a fair question, and one I'm very happy to answer! I'll address each of these one-by-one, and if there are any other possible triggers you're wondering about, please feel free to ask~

This is going to spoil some of the show, so I'm putting my full reply below the cut.

​Sexual Assault:

Right off the top of my head, there is one very distinct instance of sexual assault, right in the beginnings of Season 1 (may even be Episode 1 if memory serves). The rape itself is not graphic- there's a build up, but the scene ends before anything is actually shown. However! The attack is a defining moment for quite a few of the main cast- relationships are formed based on reactions to it (all resoundingly in the victim's corner!), and it is mentioned off-and-on again throughout the series.

Hate Crimes:

I don't… I can't quite say there are many hate crimes as we would know them, but some general things to look out for…

There is a very tentative relationship between the Colonists & the Pamunkey Tribe, a tension which builds up into the final episode where a lot of characters are killed on screen- mostly background. (Season 3 was arguably the most graphic of the lot, starting with the private execution of an alleged "traitor" to the governor.)

​The slave trade hangs heavily over the series starting at the end of Season 1, an introduction that tastes even more bitter when it's discovered that they were acquired illegally (and against the wishes of a majority of the colonists). I… I have much I'd like to say about it, but to do so would spoil a lot of plot points later. I will say however that there's nothing particularly graphic in this end (and Pedro and Marie alone are worth watching the show for!)

For queerphobia, there… wasn't much? The most that comes of it are a few instances where Thomas & Jocelyn both make jabs at Nicholas for his 'tastes,' though in the end it's clear they both really do care for him. Also in regards to an intersex character, the only fault found in her is the deception that allowed him to come to Jamestown to begin with. There's also the strong implication that not only does another character remain open-minded about folks pursuing certain 'bedfellows,' but the possibility that he himself may be queer. (Kind of a blink-and-you-miss-it moment, but definitely there.)

Religion-wise, there is definitely a period-accurate bias towards Protestantism (and a hatred/suspicion of Catholics which will come up several times), and references are made about wanting to "convert" the indigenous population, but that's about the extent of it? Some characters do use ''Christianity'' as a cover, but uh… Spoilers on that end. Put succinctly… In spite of a period-accurate lean towards Protestantism, there are still a few characters who definitely are not of the same mind. In the main cast alone, I can think of at least three Jamestown residents who stand apart from the others in terms of spirituality (or lack thereof).

Violence:

While there's not a lot of gore in this show, there are certain scenes that can seem gruesome in the context. As I found this show through PBS, I wasn't expecting a lot of gore itself, but the implications involved, and the very rare, rare moments where things are actually shown, carry enough weight on their own. (There is one scene that comes to mind with a smuggler and some molten metal, but I couldn't seem to look away; Farlow was fucking terrifying. 💀)

Character Death:

Some great news! Most of the characters survive this series!

Bad news! The characters who do leave will probably hurt!

Would like to again offer a warning for the finale of Season 3, which leads into the very real beginnings of the Indian Massacre of 1622, a slaughter that took out nearly 1/4 of the Virginian colonists. The show does not get graphic, but the implications, and the brief hints we're shown on screen do plenty of damage.

Overall:

There were quite a few liberties taken with this show, and at times it feels vaguely soap opera-esque in the writing choices. But overall I did enjoy this one, and I would recommend it! Even if you decide to watch just for Alice, Verity, and Jocelyn, I would still ask you to give it a try because there are so many interesting characters to meet in this series, and it does offer a decent (if over-exaggerated) glimpse into life in Jamestown.

If you're still interested in giving Jamestown a whirl, I hope you enjoy it! (And please feel free to scream in my inbox and/or DMs about it.)

Thanks for the ask friend; I hope this helped, and if not, please don't hesitate to reach out. Love and light!

#jamestown #anon asks #hello friend! #trigger warnings #i uh... i'm not sure how to tag this tbh #spoilers #??? #tw sex assault #tw slavery #tw queerphobia #tw violence #on a personal note? as a sa survivor i wasn't triggered so much by the actual scene & i felt a VERY strong connection to the victim #because of how she continued to confront it for years after the fact & always carried it with her #there's a hint of a modern day lean in that the contemptible characters are painted as such and it's NOT shied away from #nicholas' swan song was giving voice to words that countless others were dying to spit but didn't have the leave to #i think i'm going to rewatch this again tbh #it's only 24 episodes #another series i would have eventually watched no matter who was in the cast #burn being there is just an added bonus #fr tho anon if you'd like further clarification on anything or would prefer something more specific please let me know <3 #thanks for the ask!

[niishi]

My red flag is that I love watching the Kardashians even though it represents pretty much everything I'm against. Although I think for rich ppl, they could be worse. I have a tablespoons worth of respect for Kim given the humanitarian work she does and how she uses her privilege to help ppl on death row.

#tbh i just like knowing everything #and its like getting a peak into what super rich ppl are like #also they are armenian and have some kind of understanding of their culture being victims of genocide #and their PR people work overtime making sure they dont ever say anything TOO inflammatory #also i just genuinely think they don't rlly say terrible stuff bc they were raised decently #kris is a gr8 mom shes really the star of the whole show