#tgp rants

[hidingoutbackstage]

“How many times did I approach Chidi for help, he said no, and I had to figure it out on my own?”

“None. He always helped you.”

#sid rants #i’m rewatching the good place clearly #showing it to my bf he is loving itttt #anyway chidi and eleanor aaaaaaaaa #eight hundred and two resets and he ALWAYS helped her. i’m gonna cry #and eleanor always went to him to genuinely be good and earn her place there #they’re so. ack. i love them #the good place #tgp

[stupidsexpotflanders]

Veronica mars (series) or the good place (series)?

*Stretches fingers* This anon probably wants to see me get beat up,lol.

Both of them started really strong,but somewhat betrayed their core messages and shat on their own feast.

The winner is Veronica Mars,tho. The feast wasn't wholy ruined,I can salvage by doing my own thing,and there are plenty of people whose homes I can dine at(namely,ao3 and ffn).

Controversial opinions under the cut.

The Good Place started to go downhill on season 3,but the whole "modernity is why everyone goes to the Bad Place" was the cause of death,thinking back. And I have three reasons:

It's anti-historical. Colonization,exploitation and warfare had always existed. Yes,modern Doug got dinged because his cellphone was made on a sweatshop,the roses were planted by exploited workers and the CEO was a creep. However,there was a risk for negative points to ancient Doug as well. He used tools to plant those roses. How were those metals mined? Also,the land. Maybe it was conquered on a brutal war,or anything like that;

It ignores the positives of modernity. I'm not denying the world is still horrible in many ways,but the quality of life of the average human vastly improved throughout history. The medicine,for example. People were being maimed and killed by diseases we have eradicated by now,not to mention how what we know by basic hygiene(washing one's hands,covering own mouth when sneezing) nowadays are literal life savers. Not to mention how the world wide web itself - people can help other people with what's basically pocket money,local tragedies get international support sometimes,groups fighting regional injustices get to influence other people to do the same. Also,all kinds of information,knowing people from all over the world with ease. And that leads to my thrid point. Also,human rights. Things are far from perfect,but pretending we didn't make any advancement is just as counterproductive as pretending everything is perfect;

Despite telling it's pro-human,The Good Place doesn't show it,IMO. They mentioned all the pitfalls of (modern) Earth and decided the sollution was having 4 humans on an aferlife controlled by supernatural beings,and if they earned "paradise" if the got "good enough". The Earth was basically ignored by the narrative when dealing with the whole "everyone goes to the Bad Place". There was little to no appreciation for humanity and it's flawed,messy beauty. Bonus point - it's thesis about death was stupid,IMO. "Life is meaningful because it ends" is an okay message,but having a door one can go whenever they want kinda ruins the point. For humans,life is short(8-12 decades at most) and random(diseases,accidents). Therefore,each moment is precious.

Tahani's and Michael's ending were perfect,tho. They were experimenting new things. Jason should've been chilling and meditating in The Real Good Place for eternity,like a real monk,speaking wisdom to other residents and eventually turned into stardust by spontaneously transcending(maybe his sparkles would influence people on Jacksonville to do good). Eleanor and/or Chidi should've gone to Earth in order to help people out(two writing problems solved). It would respect Eleanor's own words "I know we're doomed,but why not try? Better than not trying!". As for Chidi,he had an innate desire to do good things and (supposedly) learned anything he could've. So why not putting said knowledge to good use in a complicated environment?

Now,onto Veronica Mars. Many people said it better than me,but her character was more or less ruined in Season 4. Basically it was:character regression,glorification of trauma,narratively undermining her relationships... However,Veronica was a glorious character from S1 to Mr. Kiss and Tell. Besides,seeing her finding herself at the movie was amazing. Weevil is also consistently a marvelous character,even being shafted in S4.

Now,onto my massively unpopular opinion: I'm not fond of adult!Logan. He has amazing chemistry with Veronica and is a generally healthier,gentler person but often feels underwritten. And said problem is with him as a Navy officer and a supposed good guy.

My issue it's not that he joined the Navy nor about him benefitting the structure,but how the armed forces are treated not only as perfect but as an automatic sign of a healthy moral compass. It goes against one of the main themes of the franchise. There's police corruption,political corruption,classism,racism,sexism,corporate corruption(Veronica's lawyering job in the firm comes to mind). But somehow,the military is immune to crooked people in power misusing it or being in cahoots with bad people for their own gain. I believe there should be some sort of betrayed idealism from Logan when facing the harsh reality,if he was to be a guy who truly cares about the world and wants to make a positive difference. At the same time,Lt. Echolls could be fighting the good fight from the inside - like someone who knows the ugly truth but keeps being unwaveringly optmistic and truly believes the institution. To top it all,there's no mention of him doing charity or activism(yes,there's the "cycling to save the planet",but I didn't get a hardcore environmental discipline at uni to believe 1(one) guy riding a bicycle is going to do anything about air pollution. Really,Hollywood writers are allergic to Social Studies,lol). It becomes even worse when remebering this is a franchise with delightful good guys like Keith and Wallace 🤡 Thank god for fanfics,tho. They can make Logan an actual hero.

However,Logan's surface-level goodness can be quite interesting if not taken at face value,IMO. He never comments on Neptune's corruption nor makes any complaints about moral complications at his service(someone as outspoken and perceptive as Logan would've noticed and done someting about it - even in the shape of small everyday actions). On the other hand,Logan made a quip about "missing money and power" to Veronica in MKAT. Maybe he wasted it all in his downward spiral- spending on parties/drugs/fair-weather friends,paying off threats(he beat up a guy that belonged to the Russian Mob),probably bailing himself out of jail. And I think that's the one that happened. The Navy gave him structure,discipline and a steady income. So,he didn't give a fuck about actually doing good for anyone outside of his circle. I've seen anayses about how teen!Logan was the femme fatale(no,I won't switch genders) and turned into the solid love interest. To me,the guy manages spectacularly to be both. He's a helpful,caring boyfriend to Carrie and Veronica,but also the perfect Navy Officer. Veronica Mars(and most noir works) questions things that look too flawless and pristine and invites a second look onto it. Therefore,it's logical to imagine Logan being ambitious,ruthless and willing to do anything to get any mission accomplished. Kind of a state-sanctioned mercenary. In fact,that's more or less the angle I'm going for in my fanfic about him(shameless self-promotion).

The winner is Veronica Mars. Besides being more or less consistent with it's themes(they fail,but it's still enjoyable when rewatching scenes,whereas The Good Place is retroactively ruined and only good through gifs and memes). Also,many bad parts of VM can be fixed by making my own headcanons,whereas the bad of The Good Place irrevocably taints the whole thing. To top it all,there aren't many tgp fans unsatisfied with their own show. Glad for them,but many of the fix-it fics in the vm fandom are amazing

#anti tgp #tgp crit #veronica mars #vm meta #anti rob thomas #bad writing #vm rant #tgp rant

[azulaloml]

the alcott triggers something in me that makes me just want to reread tgp as if i dont have exams in 2 weeks

also i have been ranting abt this fic to a friend so much that iv made her download it to read on her flight because omg is it worth it this fic is insane

#i cant decide whether being this into a fic is embarassing or reasonable because its more interesting than actual books #tell me why i find tgp more interesting than critically acclaimed literature #like i hate the arc 1 to flashback arc trope but this has made me change my mind?? its so good #also thankyou for introducing me to the national because theyre kinda my favorite band rn #should i stop ranting and actually tag now #atla fanfic #avatar the last airbender #zuko #the glass princess #go read this

[m1ckeyb3rry]

I really don't want to be annoying but when is the next glass princess update coming?

Have a nice day btw 💕💓

it’ll come once i write it

#if you’re a new follower then please note i rlly don’t post consistently #at ALL lmao one of my fics was on a hiatus for a year (pomegranate ink readers you are god’s strongest soldiers) #it takes me about a day or two to write a chapter and i post that same day so i cannot say in advance when i’ll next update #i also write if/when i feel like it and for the fics i have inspiration for at the moment #and i have a real life too which is always my number one priority #ik i was posting pretty frequently for tgp for a while but i do not have that time and drive atm #i wrote over 100k words in less than a month for that fic #if i only updated once a week then that’s about 18 weeks or roughly 4 months of chapters #sorry for the rant and anon i’m glad you enjoy the story sm but #getting this type of ask frequently for a story that was updated literally less than two weeks ago is tiring #answered asks

[rocksandmirrors]

this year i'm working on my fucking wips *looks at reflection* or else.

#rant #i need to focus on tgp and my comic #but i also need to finish those silly drawings and fics that had been clogging my folders since late 2022

[djtangerine]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY FAVORITE FIC @redstone-sun

#flau #also tgp is my real favorite but it’s a sequel to this so #hey froggy #please please please read this it’s like if mumbo and grian were watson and sherlock and also there’s weird magic #i can and will rant about this to anyone please ask me about this fic

[rjalker]

Deacon's like

You can't trust everyone.

well you could have trusted me you fucking asshole

#why am I suddenly ranting about Deacon you ask???? #one of the lines in the good place made me remember him!!! #which one??? IDK I already forgot!!!! #tgp tw #Rjalker plays Fallout 4

[thisghosts-obsessions-again]

Am I going to think of Theodora whenever I play something taking place in the early 20th century? 😔

#personal rant #spoiler #this ghost's liveplay #screenshots #screenshots spoiler #interactive fiction #screenshot #hg the grey painter #hosted games #hg tgp

[lesbiantahani]

rules: share 5 different unpopular opinions about fandoms of your choosing

tagged by: @mistyquigly and @lesbianlotties thank uuuu mwah! (if I get death threats im blaming yall <3 kdkdkdk)

yellowjackets: my takes aren't really unpopular but the entire s2 plot would not change if you took walter out of it. hes useless and boring and adds nothing to mistys character that isn't already there and although elijah woods performance is okay it just felt like he was there bc he's a famous actor and no other reason. also misty is a lesbian. i do not see jeff as some cute uwu loves his wife so much character what he did was awful and no matter how many times that u shout "there's no book club???" at me will make me care abt him more or see him more than a replacement in shaunas life for jackie. okay this is one is a controversial one I think alot of people don't agree w but i don't like ben!! im sorry!!! i just don't!!!

stranger things: i like s2. like actually no i love s2 and everytime I say that im met with baffled looks and idk why dkdkdk

midnight mass/the midnight club: these are both the weakest of the anthology series and ill die on this hill sorry I didn't even finish the midnight club it was that boring </3

tgp: going back to my url roots but there was NEVER a need for tahani to have love interests what was up with that, fucking awful decision bc it didn't even help make her a better person for the plot men were just. there. and i hated it kdkdkd

wednesday: it was a good show but ill be so real with you guys idk if it deserved TWELVE emmy nominations. when yellowjackets is right there. anyways I think that opinion is gonna get me backlash KDKDK

okay I tag: @lottieurl @sattelite-of-love @poetrylesbian @patron-saints @lesbianrobin <3 and anyone else who sees this and wants to rant and go crazy stupid

#jas rambles

[fictionkinfessions]

I have a couple things I have to rant about so I’ll just say them both in one ask for efficiency wheeee

firstly, what the fuck why does TGP (the genesis project, for those who are lucky enough to not know) have to give me kin vibes. Like it is vividly reminding me of my source but not in any solid way. Although it seems to be giving me some insight, at least, because I distinctly remember the color red being involved in either my (well. Technically not *mine* but I’m not getting into that now) land or my aspect.

and secondly, I feel bad about sticking to one typing style, because sometimes I don’t feel like putting in the effort of capitalization, but otherwise my very particular typing style feels natural. But I always stick to one (it’s different for different people I talk to) so it doesn’t confuse anyone.

also bonus third thing: I can’t stand making spelling errors (unless they’re ironic), so it’s very fuckin annoying that I have hand tremors. I always feel like I have to go back and correct them, which makes my typing speed slow. I used to be an AI why’d I have to end up like this <\3

Anyways sorry for rambling

-Hal (#💾🕶️)

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#fictionkinfessions #fictionkin #💾🕶️ #halkin #homestuckkin #mod party cat

[lesbianmaxevans]

7 what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

10 worst part of fanon

17 there should be more of this type of fic/art

7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them? you know...... I actually can't think of a character I liked and then fandom turned me against. it's always been characters I felt indifferent about or already disliked and then fandom obsessing over them made me annoyed and the annoyance turned to burning hatred for that character. I shan't go on my [redacted] rant bc as cathartic as it would be for me I'm 99% sure only like 3 ppl would like my thoughts and everyone else would run and grab their pitchforks. unfortunately I think practically all my most hated characters are like. fan favorites. but I'm gonna go with eleanor from tgp bc she was INSUFFERABLE and I won't be silenced any longer!!

10. worst part of fanon speaking generally bc I'm not active enough in fandom spaces anymore to have a specific example LOL but truly I hate seeing awful characters be woobified. like fandom culture in general has endless sympathy for the most vile white(/white passing) characters and then they're scouring for reasons to distrust/hate on characters of color. im fucking sick of it, it's why I just make my content and rarely engage outside of that

17. there should be more of this type of fic/art honestly I just want more focus on characters of color where fandom isn't vilifying them and like. significantly less abuse apologia. I don't think I'm too picky beyond that lmfao

#ty anon <3 #chatting with Rachel

[moonah-rose]

Still can’t get over Mike saying in the podcast that Eleanor’s talk with Chidi about “the most x thing” being what helps her trust Michael at the end of the episode. So...what would have happened if she hadn’t talked with Chidi? When Michael did his whole “We still have a problem here” would Eleanor have said “Yeah, you’re right, you better fire up that gun again, dude, or get yourself in Janet’s void”. ??

Also I riff on Eleanor a lot in this episode so let me balance it out by being angry at Michael for saying “lying demon is gone, all good right?” when Glenn gets blown up - he already proved he wasn’t lying, you dingus, you were! Poor Glenn.

#rose hates ttds 2021 #tgp rants

[filipino-wallacewells]

as much as i love lucifer the series can i talk about how disappointing its bi rep is in regards to lucifer himself?

lucifer is canonically bi and has been mentioned to have relationships with men and women but he's only ever shown in the series to be with women. all of his relationships with men are only briefly mention and never explicitly shown.

in the show, he's shown to be flirting with women, sleeping with women, and having relationships with women on-screen. i can't tell you how many episodes has lucifer getting out of bed after his lastest late night tryst, but not once do i remember his partner to be a man.

the one time he is shown to be in a relationship with a man, it's when he goes undercover with pierce for a mission. it's played off as a joke and his one (1) kiss with a guy is also shown for comedic effect and was done so his cover wasn't blown, not because he genuinely wanted to kiss him. he could have been a straight man and the episode would've played the same.

it feels like a way for the writers to have their cake and eat it too. they get lauded for having bi representation without the possibility of upsetting homophobes or doing the effort of writing good mlm relationships.

he's bi rep in the same way lefou and dumbledore was "gay rep". his bisexuality is only ever mentioned and shown in blink-or-you miss it scenes or off-hand jokes.

i am not here to invalidate bisexual people with mostly opposite gender attraction. people can be attracted 95% to the opposite gender and 5% to the same gender and still be bi. but it's just frustrating when the writers are too scared to actually show characters in same gender relationships.

another example of this is with eleanor from "the good place". she was confirmed as bi by the shownrunners but her attraction to women in the show can always be played off as a joke, and is never explicit. you can watch the entire show and never know that eleanor is bi.

this is almost the same shit disney pulls with their yearly "first openly gay character".

as a bi person, it's super frustrating to see writers downplay or hide a character's same gender attraction.

to finish off this rant i'll give one example of actually good bisexual rep: rosa from b99. rosa is probably the best bi rep i've seen in mainstream television. she initially only dated guys but after she came out, she is shown to also date women and her girlfriends actually appear in the show and are relevant in the same way that some of her boyfriends were. her coming out episode was also well-handled and emotional.

going forward i hope to see more bi characters like rosa where their bisexuality isn't their sole personality, but it also isn't completely irrelevant to who they are because one's sexuality is part of their identity.

#bisexuality #bisexual #erasure #lucifer #tgp #b99 #the good place #brooklyn nine nine #lucifer morningstar #rosa diaz #eleanor shellstrop #netflix #rant

[kimmkitsuragi]

the good place writers really just said we will write a show so good so fresh so original so funny so clever so compassionate so full of new n interesting plot points n characters and we will develop the characters so well and the plot will be well written with meaningful n clever plot twists and we will have four seasons of it and end it like we always planned instead of milking the show's popularity and tbh fuck other writers I RESPECT YOU!

#the good place is brilliant. just brilliant #the good place #tgp #rants #good post op

[zeezeepearl]

Spoilers for The Good Place: the After-afterlife

I don’t think everyone comes back as the kind of conscience the way Eleanor did.  I think that’s the only one we know, the only one we were shown.  But I like to think everyone’s way of “returning to the ocean” was unique.  I like to think Chidi became that spark of confidence-- that urge to make a choice.  Jason returns as an epiphany-- a feeling or idea someone will have that they can’t quite explain, but makes perfect sense.  What they all put back into the world is what made them the best versions of themselves.

And I like to think that eventually, when Michael returns to the afterlife, in his humanity he will follow the same route.  He’ll move on.  And when he does, his essence will manifest as a surge of will.  The determination to keep going.  To never give up.  His determination made him the best Michael he could be, and his determination with the wisdom of the four humans he came to love created a better afterlife.  A better future.  And I would love for him to put that back into the world.

#tgp spoilers #the good place spoilers #analysis #michael #eleanor shellstrop #chidi anagonye #jason mendoza #zee zee rants #the good place

[prismartist]

Has anyone else done this already

#watcher #watcher entertainment #the good place #tgp #social distancing & dungeons & dragons #social distancing and dungeons and dragons #sdndnd #sd&d&d #stephanos coffeebean #jason mendoza #unintelligible rants