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ATEEZ Theory Tidbits Episode 14: HALATEEZ? TREASURETEEZ? THE WORLDTEEZ? FEVERTEEZ?
Aka, Casper struggling with the ATEEZ storyline.
You know, I like to say that TXT’s storyline has DID. And if TXT’s storyline has DID, ATEEZ themselves have DID. Although they were introduced to us in very normal terms through TREASURE, the arrival of Zero to One and HALA HALA changed that - there was an alternate version of ATEEZ, likely from a different universe/timeline, who seemed able to possess the original members. They were darker, self-destructive, and more than likely traumatised. When they appear, ‘original’ ATEEZ describe feeling like they’re going to explode, or fire imagery. And also going crazy.
And then FEVER happened. And we all thought that they were HALAteez, as they had been dubbed. But then there were suggestions that they weren’t. And then the same thing happened again with THE WORLD. So what in the name of Namjesus is going on? Only Hongjoong knows. And let’s be honest, even the people who seem sure of their interpretations of the storyline are probably completely wrong. Because ATEEZ are like that. And I’m not here to be certain about the storyline. I’m here to stare reaaaaaally hard at Hongjoong’s armband and talk about media history and the random things that noone else talks about. And that’s okay.
So, let’s talk about the four current versions of ATEEZ - who the hell are they? What are they about? Are there four versions? More? Who is HALAteez? Does HALAteez even exist? And what do I wish was the case?
All of that is below the line.
What I wish would happen
You know how in the Diary Film, they talked about the universe splitting in 8? I would absolutely love it (and think it would be interesting and poetic) if there were 8 versions of ATEEZ, one for each member/fragment of the universe. So, who is which one?
Well, to be honest I don’t know. The only one I would put down for certain is HALATEEZ being from Hongjoong’s section - they are what we all generally consider the actual original version of ATEEZ, thus it makes sense that they are the product of the Captain. They’re also the traumatised ones - remember ‘Precious,’ which most people consider the HALAteez version of ‘Treasure,’ where Hongjoong is left alone with the Treasure, the rest of the members dead. I mean, I could potentially go on. But I feel like it’s a natural conclusion to come to. Especially since HALAteez seem to communicate with Hongjoong the most, Hongjoong is the one who understands what’s going on in the storyline, and I am a big fan of the insane Hongjoong messing up the universe theory. 
As far as the other ones?
I like FEVER as Yeosang - he’s the one who is arguably the main character of the segment - a contender for the author of ‘Dear Diary,’ and with a continued story throughout the series, from INCEPTION to Deja Vu, The Real, and Turbulence. Not to mention how he was highlighted in that era - got a lot of ending fairies and centre time in ending poses. 
TREASURE - I’m thinking Yunho, Mingi or Jongho - Jongho is the maknae and thus by default is considered more innocent than the others. TREASURE is the era where the group is new to the world - thus why it is the era we were introduced to them in. They are discovering things like the Guardians, HALAteez, other universes, and more. Jongho by default would match this description. But I like more evidence than just age. And if I had to pick someone else, it would probably be Yunho or even Mingi. Both Yunho and Mingi have roles in the storyline based on directing the other members towards their goal - while YUnho is ‘pointing’, Mingi is the one who keeps the pace. TREASURE was about travelling a lot, both literally and metaphorically, and they are the members who best represent this. There could be arguments for either, although, with how hard Mingi was pushed as a rapper and an intimidating, cool member, and how he had centre parts in songs like ‘WAVE,’ he probably has more evidence in his favour.
THE WORLD - well, I’m feeling a pretty solid Seonghwa. We were introduced to THE WORLD after the end of FEVER through the transitional single ‘Don’t Stop,’ which showed Seonghwa leading the group in Hongjoong’s absence. Although we haven’t had much THE WORLD era content, Seonghwa has been highlighted in the storyline - both in ‘Guerrilla’ and ‘Halazia’ through the styling and cinematography. He literally starts ‘Halazia’ with Hongjoong and gets multiple killing points in the choreographies of both songs, including directing the group in ‘Halazia,’ and being the one in the MV to get arguably the coolest and most memorable set. Not to mention he’s the one who has the Jesus allegory - a literal leader and saviour? Sure, ‘Halazia’ and the Spin off album aren’t an actual part of THE WORLD - that’s why it’s a spin off. But I would consider it a peripheral part of the THE WORLD era, the same was I would consider Don’t Stop the bridge between FEVER and THE WORLD, and ‘Dreamers’ part of FEVER. So yes, we have indeed been seeing a lot of First Mate Hwa lately.
Interesting things about the above;
This would also suggest that Yeosang and Yunho’s dimensions are connected, as Hongjoong has said that FEVER and TREASURE are in the same universe. Although goodness knows where he/KQ are going with that.
Hongjoong says we only have less than half of the storyline released, so this fits the idea that there will be 8 versions of ATEEZ, one for each member. First, we know that the number 8 is hugely important to the group. It is also highly likely that each album series follows a different version of the group, so makes sense that we’ve seen four of eight, and thus a bit less than half of the storyline.
And now that I’ve looked through all of this and come up with Hongjoong, Yeosang, Yunho, and Seonghwa as potential candidates, I wonder - if they are going in rough age order?
I mean, goodness knows where ATEEZ are actually going with their storyline, but it’s interesting to look at.
So, what do we know about each of the groups so far?
TREASURETEEZ
Aka what most of us consider the ‘original’ ATEEZ, although they probably aren’t, chronologically.
Introduced in; ‘Pirate King’ and ‘Treasure.’
Key tracks; ‘Intro: Long Journey,’ ‘Outro: Long Journey,’ ‘WAVE,’ ‘Say My Name,’ ‘WONDERLAND,’ ‘ILLUSION,’ ‘UTOPIA,’ Answer,’ ‘Treasure,’ etc.
Characteristics; Sand, the flying pirate ship, friendship, the phases of the moon, dreams and illusions, utopia, time travel, phases of the moon, water and fire, wonderland, Peter Pan/Alice in Wonderland/other classics, the Treasure, good vs evil, names and ATINY etc.
Summary; It’s ‘Pirates of the Carribean’ but mixed with both fairy tales and old, deeply disturbing, Gothic media. Pretty much summarises ATEEZ’s storyline as a whole.
TREASURETEEZ are, as I said, what most people consider the ‘original,’ since they were the version of the group we were introduced to first. But that’s the only reason. Actually, in the storyline, it seems that TREASURETEEZ come in only in the middle, or towards the end. They seem more ‘bland’ than the other versions, mostly out of necessity of introducing the fandom slowly to the complexities of ATEEZ’s storyline. But they do have their own unique aspects. For instance - the flying pirate ship, which has only been seen in ‘Don’t Stop’ since the TREASURE era. Or the idea of the search for the Treasure, which has been an underlying theme of the whole story, but which was especially key to TREASURETEEZ. Additionally, their concepts of travelling (shown through the many locations of their MVs), fantasy, and utopia/illusions/dreams, while important to the other groups, were far more heavily emphasised for TREASURETEEZ. Partially due to their originality and being the first, they remain super iconic and laid the groundwork for the other groups to follow. But honestly, we haven’t really heard from them in at least a year, so it’s interesting but also kind of sad to think about them now...
HALATEEZ
Introduced in; ‘HALA HALA.’
Main/key songs; arguable, but I would say ‘Desire,’ ‘From,’ ‘Precious,’ ‘HALA HALA,’ and ‘Answer: Ode to Joy.’
Actual name: Suicide Squad
Characteristics: Black pirates, the fedoras, chains etc (the Gothic pirate outfit that is mandatory ATEEZ concert atire), masks, gloves, the box, conflict with the Guardians, showing up and helping the other versions of ATEEZ, explosions, fire, insanity, self-destruction and harm, the Cromer, illusions and dreams, chaos and imprisonment, etc
Summary: They are literally Mr Hyde, but... weirder.
HALATEEZ, as they have been (incorrectly) dubbed were introduced as Jekyll-and-Hyde-type villains for TREASURETEEZ in their second comeback. They showed up randomly, seemingly caused a whole bunch of conflict and killed some people, and skedaddled again. We saw glimpses of them in ‘ILLUSION’ and ‘WONDERLAND,’ in different forms, and they returned in full in ‘Answer’ to seemingly make a truce with TREASURETEEZ and to help them fight the Guardians. Since then, we have seen them in all ATEEZ eras and in most albums/releases, especially alongside the Guardians. They are mentioned continually in the Diary entries and have appeared in other media like the FEVER eXtended edition and the Diary Film. In FEVER, we see them a few times, mostly in ‘Deja Vu,’ as the Guardians also seem to be chasing versions of ATEEZ across time and space (cue Dr Who theme). They even show up in THE WORLD, both being mentioned as a kay aspect of the world but also being characterised as some long-gone Jesus-type saviours who have literal shrines in their honour, and where the ATEEZ of THE WORLD are turning into a new version of the Black Pirates on their journey to free the world from oppression. 
They have also been seen helping every different version of ATEEZ - KINGDOM was a great way for them to demonstrate this - we saw HALATEEZ helping the ATEEZ in WONDERLAND, Awakening of Summer, and Answer: Ode to Joy, where they sacrificed themselves to help that version of ATEEZ (possibly FEVERTEEZ???) defeat the Guardians. 
So, it’s a pretty easy conclusion to come to to say that HALATEEZ are arguably the most important version of ATEEZ - another reason to associate them with Hongjoong.
FEVERTEEZ
Introduced in; INCEPTION
Main/key tracks; ‘Dear Diary,’ ‘INCEPTION,’ ‘THANXX,’ ‘Deja Vu,’ ‘Eternal Sunshine,’ ‘Turbulence,’ ‘The Real,’ etc
Characteristics; boyhood, dystopia, coming of age, grunge, graffiti, day of the dead imagery, fire and water, dreams, memory loss, inspiration from movies, mad max (maybe maybe not), gloves, etc
Summary; Everyone is sad, especially Yeosang, and the world may or may not be real.
FEVER was an interesting era. I’m still not entirely sure how or why we decided it, but we collectively, as a fandom, decided that FEVER is a prequel to TREASURE. I think a lot of this came from the Diary Film, which shows the origin of the members in their world, and shows Hongjoong being given the Cromer - since the group have the Cromer in TREASURE, them being given it would obvously come before. It also came with the idea that FEVERTEEZ were HALATEEZ - this is also an obvious conclusion - ‘fever’ was a word often used to describe the feeling the members had when they were being taken over by HALATEEZ, and FEVERTEEZ and HALATEEZ have many common themes, such as dystopia, 1984 inspirations, associations with fire, using gloves and  masks, etc etc. But looking at the storyline as it is now, I don’t think this is the case. For starters, HALATEEZ (mostly Hongjoong) actually show up in FEVER - which either suggests time travel (admittedly a key part of the storyline), or that they are different people. It’s more of a ‘ohh look at Hongjoong being the subtle villain of the story’ than it is a circular section of a cyclical storyline. I think we as a fandom have perhaps just gone a little far with how nonlinear ATEEZ’s storyline is. To be fair, I may be completely wrong, but we can at least agree that the storyline is so nonlinear that ATINY have gone a bit crazy and just run with it.
But, removing FEVERTEEZ from HALATEEZ, what do we know about them? They seem to live in a semi-dystopian world (like the world of THE WORLD, but less drastic), and have a big concept of rebelling against society. Their storyline is explicitly inspired by a host of Korean, English, and American movies, such as Inception and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Their view of their world seems to become more sober/less idealistic over time, going from relatively normal but a tiny bit off in INCEPTION and THANXX, to on fire in Fireworks, to a 1984-espque world in ‘Deja Vu’ and a tragic loss of self in ‘Turbulence.’ This connects to the dream state that they experience, which, speaking of - the duality of water and fire is associated with this - water as a symbol of the dream state and fire as the real world. This can be applied to the rest of the storyline, as we know the group is in a dream in ‘WAVE,’ where we see a lot of water, but in WONDERLAND and Don’t Stop, where they are awake, we see fire. This also further connects to utopia, as utopia is associated with water, but water for ATEEZ is a dream, just as the utopia isn’t real. Whereas fire is hellish and chaotic, but also associated here with the real world - showing the actual, horrific nature of the world they live in.
However, FEVER era also introduced the Diary versions of the albums, which, interestingly, seemingly discuss the world of THE WORLD. The fact that they are associated with FEVERTEEZ through the virtue of literally being part of their albums suggests that the ATEEZ of THE WORLD and FEVERTEEZ are the same - they even have the same hideout and same events of the Guardians invading the hideout. But Hongjoong also says that these two albums come from different universes, which suggests that they are different groups... so why did the FEVER albums discuss the events of THE WORLD? What is going on? Are they parallels of each other but in slightly different versions of reality where THE WORLD has gone even further into the 1984 world?
Anyway, until we have more content of THE WORLD and I have done a more thorough analysis of the Diaries, we can only really assume that they are separate but similar groups, and that, by virtue of contributing mostly to the following era, FEVER is a very interesting but generally lower quantity of contribution to the storyline.
THE WORLD...TEEZ?
Omg I hate calling them THE WORLDTEEZ. Can we call them 1984-teez or something?
Introduced in; arguable - ‘Don’t Stop,’ ‘Awakening of Summer,’ or ‘Guerrilla,’ depending on your opinion of the storyline.
Key tracks; Awakening of Summer, Guerrilla, Sector 1, Propaganda, Halazia (maybe) etc
Characteristics; Literally 1984, human rights, oppression, suppression and rebellion, technology, human nature, etc
Summary; I don’t think they can be described in a better way than ‘literally 1984.’
The most recent version of ATEEZ to be revealed. They exist in a world where the government has decided that the best way to develop humanity further is to get rid of all emotions, art, and music. There is still some legend of the Black Pirates, who literally have a shrine to them. Anyway, let’s just say that. although we don’t know a huge amount yet, we do know that ATEEZ are fighting against the loss of creativity in this world and may or may not be pushing for a world of anarchy. This is also a world that may or may not be the origin of the Guardians, but is certainly one they are present in. 
Conclusions
So what the hell is going on? We as a fandom seem obsessed with HALATEEZ. Every time a new album series comes out, we seem obsessed with the idea of them being HALATEEZ - Treasureteez clearly just had DID. But then FEVERTEEZ clearly WERE HALATEEZ. But wait, the ATEEZ from THE WORLD have more similar concepts and worlds to HALATEEZ than the other previous versions. So, it must be them.... right?
Well, yes and no. Because I am indeed, firmly of the opinion that HALATEEZ are the main characters of the storyline, yet will only ever remain in the background. We saw this especially on KINGDOM - the members of HALATEEZ were seen helping the other versions of ATEEZ but were never the centre of attention. 
So, what’s even the point? Why am I bothering running this blog? What is life, death, why do we even exist?
I guess we just have to wait and see. This is less of a theory post than laying out the facts that we have - although, as expected with ATEEZ, these details are all up to interpretation. But I do think I have a decent case for the 8 universes-8 versions of ATEEZ theory (although the circular reasoning of it being based on my own pet theories may be a bit dodgy).
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eccentric-corvid · 3 months
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Is Husk really a 'ex'-overlord?
Husk is called a ex-overlord on the wiki, and he says he used to be a overlord, until Alastor got his soul....
But Alastor doesnt have his soul either, someone else has him on a leash, and yet Alastor is still a Overlord...
So what if Husk is still a overlord? First, what makes a overlord? From the wiki 'Overlords gain and increase their power by "owning" souls'
So owning others souls is what makes a overlord, but thats seems like a bit to easy, surely then anyone could become a overlord easily
So what if Overlord are the only ones to be able to make deals in the first place (not including the higher hierarchy demons)?
In which place, Husk would still be a overlord, just simply one who currently has no souls but still able to make a deal
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zuppizup · 1 year
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Was not expecting lore drop before I even had my coffee this morning, so was pleasantly surprised to see a new Reflections story awaited me. Ripples was wonderful, as I’ve come to expect of that series (more please!!!) and it’s been great reading all the new speculation due to some of the info drops.
One thing I immediately noticed was the passage about the star falling to earth and causing a wound. I have seen people take this as confirmation it has to do with Aaravos and the Sea of the Castout.
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So perhaps I’m geologising a little too close to the sun, but looking at the map of Xadia, the Sea of the Castout does not look to me like an impact crater. It’s a flat area, with pretty ill defined edges.
If the cater caused by Aaravos falling to earth behaves like a typical crater (and considering this is a magical land with dragons and elves, it absolutely may not), you’d expect a central impact zone, with roughly equal energy radiating from it, creating a roughly circular impact crater (when viewed from above). The Sea of the Castout very much does not look like this… but not to far from that is The Spinning Sea
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The Spinning Sea seems to have a central zone, with a ring of mountains surrounding it. This looks far more like a typical impact crater, though obviously the scale is much more vast (again, magic?) There’s also reference to the land bleeding, a metaphor for volcanism, perhaps?
And maybe the rift we see at the Border was chosen to take advantage of this pre-existing wound in the earth?
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Perhaps even more interesting is how the ripples in the image above also remember an impact crater. Ripples that appears to be distorting an image of the moon.
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If we take Zubeia’s story as truth (or near enough) Luna Tenebris disappeared suddenly, resulting in the succession crisis. Obviously this happened long after Aaravos’ arrival in Xadia, so perhaps it’s just concidence that the Gulf of Tenebris located by the Spinning Sea, but then again, perhaps not.
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Which is to say, I still think the Sea of the Castout is likely to be where Aaravos is imprisoned and the Spinning Sea is where he “landed” in Xadia.
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blueytidbits · 5 months
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Lila and “The Butterfly Effect”
I’ve noticed that every episode with Lila as a prominent character, some kind of butterfly effect is involved in the story (arguably).
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In “Daddy Dropoff,” if Bandit hadn’t played wind-up Bingo, Lila and Bingo would have never become lifelong friends. This is implied even moreso with the conversation he and Bluey have about what would happen if he hadn’t played it afterwards. “Probably nothing I suppose.”
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In “Pass the Parcel,” if Pat had never been selected to stop the music at Lila’s birthday party, his version of the rules would have never become more popular in the neighborhood/class.
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In “Slide,” if Bingo and Lila hadn’t gotten Bandit out of the way of the caterpillar, it would have never gotten the chance to grow into the butterfly we see at the end of the episode.
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This last one is quite literal, making me think the writers are aware of this recurring theme of Lila and the Butterfly Effect.
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arrowheadedbitch · 2 months
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Okay, this theory is rotating in my head so I gotta get it out
Okay, I think Alastor DEFINITELY sold his soul to Lilith. He's got his whole mama's biy thing going on, I don't think he'd be willing to give it to anyone other than the MOTHER OF HELL
Now, that said, I wanna talk about the mouth stitches thing. Everyone's been arguing whether it's forcing him to smile of if his mouth tore in half from smiling too wide. Neither of these really made sense to me, the stitch configuration wouldn't be able to force him to smile and it doesn't really LOOK like his face splitting open to me like everyone says it does. (Unless the stitches are meant to imply this isn't the first time he spilt his face open from smiling??? I don't know, even then I don't see it)
To me, these look like the kind of stitches that HOLD YOUR MOUTH CLOSED
What I personally think is going on is the stitches represent that he knows something, likely about Lilith, maybe even multiple things, or a bunch of stuff, that he is unable to tell anyone due to the nature of his deal.
In other words, he's sworn to secrecy about something by force
Anyways, that's just what I think, let me know what you guys think.
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ladydorian05 · 8 months
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Tease tidbit WIP (count this as Tuesday and Wednesday)
Tagged by all these amazing people! @wikiangela @made-ofmemories @wildlife4life @loserdiaz @theotherluciferr @thewolvesof1998 @your-catfish-friend
Guys, I started a new job this Monday, I'm currently in training and it's... a lot, so I might be slow (more than usual) at writing and participating in tag games for the foreseeable future. I'll still try to participate as much as I can so please keep tagging me 🥺!
Anyways, I'm not sure if I've shared this little bit from Take care of him, the angst Buddie fic, but here, suffer with me over the couch theory because I'll never get over it (Eddie's couch is the right one damn it!)
He pops one bottle of beer open and downs it faster than he should, almost choking when the bubbles travel back up his throat to his nose. He grabs a couple of bottles and takes them with him to the living room where he flops himself on his couch. His couch. It’s funny, as much as he had thought Buck’s couch metaphor ridiculous he can’t deny that for a moment he had hoped that his couch could be the right one for Buck, that maybe Buck didn’t need to get a new one. Yeah, fucking hilarious how that turned out.
No pressure tags! (consider it as me tagging you guys for wip wednesday)
@made-ofmemories @wikiangela @wildlife4life @thewolvesof1998 @your-catfish-friend @hippolotamus @disasterbuckdiaz @diazblunt @alyxmastershipper @loserdiaz @crowleywasagryffindor @theotherluciferr @forthewolves @jesuisici33
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Sheldon: "Amy deserves better. You know when we buy the Planter's deluxe mix she eats all the Brazil nuts so I don't have to look at them. She's an unique blend of saint and squirrel." The Big Bang Theory 6x07 "The Habitation Configuration"
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wolfpoets · 2 months
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For Me Personally the tattoo is edward's name. something izzy did without ed ever knowing about - it fits too well, i think, with edward's own leather glove he wears over his spider tattoo. ed covering up his fear; izzy covering up his shame. two men who can't bear to look at themselves being so codependent and wrapped up in each other.
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sn0wgr4ve · 10 months
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I think if Papyrus was dodging the question like Sans did, he would've given more of a bold-faced lie (something where the facts don't line up) or a funny absurd answer (like when he answered the "what if someone was hiding something from you?" question).
Adding to the amnesia-ish line of thought: he is described as "Forgettable" in the murder run! (Perhaps that has a deeper meaning)
And when you talk to him in front of Undyne's house in a run you've killed someone, he says something along the lines of
NOW, I DON'T REMEMBER MURDERING ANYONE...
Don't remember, huh? That's a weird way of phrasing that!
(Granted, that could just be his way of making a cheeky jab at US, but the other possibilities still intrigue me!)
* oh now THIS is where it gets interesting… papyrus appears to be so so sweet, but once you look into it, he’s extremely manipulative and lies even about little things that don’t matter, like if he sleeps or not.
* a HUGE part of this is how he acts in snowdin. if you look at his dialogue with a certain perspective, it becomes clear that he’s just acting. whether it’s for frisk, or as us the player, is completely unclear. hell, it could be both. but he’s pretending all the same.
* a single scene’s examples are:
PAPYRUS SCENE 1
[ YOU KNOW WHAT’S “SUP”, BROTHER! ] He automatically makes it clear that Sans is his brother without it being necessary.
He acts as if he can’t see Frisk, but from where he’s standing, he should 100% see them with complete ease.
He tells Sans his goals despite him already knowing them.
During the Genocide run, he doesn’t even bother with any dramatics, as there’s no point.
(sidenote, both xbox achievements for snowdin relate to papyrus in a way that calls him god?)
* there’s also him having an obsession with redemption, him saying that he’s a brutal kind of guy, that he’s aware of sans’s pranks that are pulled across time and space, his connection to gaster that he definitely remembers (as he shows sadness at the sight of the CORE despite kind of knowing what frisk is doing), and much much MUCH more.
* there’s a good chance that he just pretends to not remember, either because he regrets it, he wants to move past it, or simply because the past hurts too much to think about
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tea-cat-arts · 1 year
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So if Kevin and Su are Alhaitham’s parents, then who’s Alhaitham’s grandma? Mobius?
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stormc97 · 2 months
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So to the Hazbin Hotel fandom… I know it’s not going to be what fandom wiki says for the show, but there is something on there about who/what has Alastor’s soul. And with his magic being toxic green, I’m a little more prone to think it’s true based on other media.
Alastor sold his soul in hell, not before, in this belief, so please bear with my hypotheticals.
Alastor made it to hell and they say he just appeared, but I believe he was there just in weaker form at first. That is what his deal is about at first. So he signed up for Voodoo, now bear with me; I know in his living lifetime he wouldn’t have signed off on that for power (having been told by his Mother to be careful with it), but dead Alastor would after becoming semi-powerless (he was a powerful serial killer). Oh he absolutely would.
This plays into his seven year disappearance too. He had to pay his debts. Especially for the amount of energy he was using. So to come back, he made another deal; get Voodoo in with the Morningstar family/get Charlie’s soul for Voodoo purposes.
As for why I believe this; the finale song- we see the bonds of the deal on him. Toxic green stitching- stitching that is reminiscent of a Voodoo doll and it’s not just on his face- it’s on his sides too.
Sadly I cannot find the image I want when I look for stuff about Alastor in the finale song, but we get a look at the stitches around his arm in his deal with Charlie, so that will have to do. To be fair I also didn’t notice all the symbols around the building when she made that deal, but I don’t know enough about them/don’t know if they were just add in for a bit of design.
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silvershayde · 1 year
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Fascinating how the desert also has its own version of the withering. So far I’ve only found it in three places, by those pillar ruin places. However the difference is it doesn’t affect anyone, and the way to undo it is to activate those pillar ruins.
Wild how advanced the tech the people of the desert were, and poses the question on if they were dealing with a form of the Withering so long ago. It is plausible; with how the Withering was actually rooted in the desert people’s old quest for knowledge [is this still a spoiler? Imma tag it as such just in case].
Idk I’m just thinking of parallels between the desert and the forest. At the height of the desert’s civilisation there’s also that element of a quest of knowledge. And it’s great how the desert was the example of what happens when you take it to far, and how the forest was so close to following in its footsteps. Then again, the Sages of the Akademiya, actually I think even all the lecturers too, have such a specific view on what is valuable or not, and have such an iron grip on what all these researchers and students carry out investigations in. The attachment between knowledge and value are so ingrained within the Akademiya in such a way that it is suffocating.
Not only that but when it comes to the desert and King Deshret, they are so ignorant that it is sometimes vexing. Instead of building upon existing evidence that not only supports the concept of Deshret being a tyrant but also goes against it, they approach the topic with a sense of bias and refusal to accept any inclination against that. This bias actually runs rampant within the Akademiya and its just sad. With a certain quest chain that happens what it also shows that IF someone comes out with results that go against existing opinions, instead of deeming it valuable and a cause for further investigation, it is so quick to be dismissed as either an over exaggeration of results or results with a very unstable foundation, pulled out of their ass if you will.
[This mini paragraph doesn’t flow as well because I accidentally deleted the original paragraph and tried to rewrite it from memory, didn’t exactly work but oh well] The scholars of Sumeru are so limiting within their scope of research and quest for knowledge. It’s like Yes! Become a scholar! But only on the things we deem important we don’t actually care about your opinion and what drives you to seek knowledge.
Sorry, I get annoyed whenever they slate on King Deshret when so much evidence us as explorers find that suggest otherwise. Talking about his tyranny and all that. If it wasn’t for the control of information anyway they would have a better idea on what actually lead to fall of such an esteemed civilisation. Not only that but the consistent emphasis the scholars have on King Deshret’s tyranny is so stupid. The people of the desert lived the same as those of the forest; trying to make the distinction between them in such a way just because they followed Deshret rather than the Dendro Archon, is just sad.
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quibbs126 · 10 months
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I don't think it's a required thing to have 2 cookie parents when ovens can be used from just the one
A singular dragon can just casually drop am egg like it nothing XD
Well that’s why I was asking about Elder Custard originally, because I was thinking about the ovens. Specifically why did he need to adopt an heir instead of just baking one? You can’t say he wouldn’t have access to one, Grand Madeleine and Light Cream presumably would have access to one to bake their kids and Elder Custard’s one of the most influential members of the Creme Republic. Literally who would have stopped him from accessing one? So that must mean it’s not how it works
Yes I know the art book says that was how Cookies had baby Cookies, but it also says that this was at a time beyond memory, meaning the ovens are no longer how it works
Also as for the dragons, I mean they aren’t Cookies, they could just have different biology
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communist-cat-girl · 1 year
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Yet another update to my Guilty Gear map. Character nationalities and stage locations haven't changed but some more text I've discovered (and having watched Sign and Revelator) has lead to some changes in my assumptions about the world. Likely to change at any moment lol.
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I would add the flags found at the G4 summit table but I'll have to either find the in-game file or remake them myself as they aren't flat. FYI Most of these are guesstimates, we have so little to go off on and Daisuke's more worried about character drama, not political.
And yes, I’m almost entirely basin my belief that Ganymede is on Hokkaido because of that tiny-tiny-tiny speck above the Nihon Sinkhole and I figure no one would bother them around there lmao.
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oranberrie · 1 year
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Ah the autistic experience of randomly remembering a situation from your childhood and realizing things
#i asked a teacher once if I could go Over the needed word count and she said something mean in return in front of the class#i used to write essays for fun and I remember that I liked the topic and I definitely wanted to infodump in the essay#i attempted to stay calm and realized I was going to really start crying and excused myself to the bathroom#where a really kind upperclassman immediately noticed my distress and hugged me and helped me calm down#or how about. the first time someone gave me a hug I actually enjoyed. and it was because he hugged me with really tight pressure#whereas all hugs I’d had previous were light and always left me uncomfortable from touching and having to lean over awkwardly#i always felt like i was about to fall over in hugs because I would try to return the favor of light touches and overbalanced myself usually#or how about. or how about. or how about.#so on and so forth. the autism was there at every moment of my life and no one noticed. even now unless I point out specifics#or spoon feed people tidbits of research I’ve done that upends their biases#people tend to immediately refuse to acknowledge or believe me. i don’t have the money for a diagnosis nor do I desire any of the#discrimination that comes from having a formal diagnosis. and the lack of one is almost always a point of contention when I explain things#hell I used to refuse to consider the idea myself because it felt like I was taking away from other peoples experiences#which was stupid because as the great High School Musical once said. We’re all in this together.#did Not help that I had an ex years ago who I did voice my theories to and got shut down rather harshly#idk just feeling nostalgic for the childhood I could have had in a perfect world.#a world where people were kind. a world with better healthcare. a world with better research studies to broaden understanding of diagnoses.#i want to go back in time on multiple trips and give my younger self tight squeezing hugs so often through my childhood that I would never#have had to think that hugs were supposed to be something you just tolerate
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ricksoychez · 2 years
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theory, but, doesn't rick prime look younger than all the other ricks??
hair and colour palette wise he's more similar to simple rick or young rick rather than our protagonist rick. his hair is a deeper less pale blue and he only has a bit of greying going on. he also doesn't have the under eye creases that the other 'older' ricks have.
from guessing alone i would say that rick prime looks like rick would have looked in his late 30's/early-mid 40's - i mean it's a pretty clear design difference. i don't know if it's anything that'll ever be explained and it's probably just to be left up for interpretation, but it interested me and ive been thinking abt it ever since i noticed it.
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