#this logic is so flawed to me

[bassenji]

There's a HIGHLY concerning amount of videos by people who have detransitioned, and are speaking against gender-affirming care being, in their words, too accessible. They are frustrated about how nobody stopped them and that everyone was way too supportive and unquestioning, and they have caused 'irreversible damage' to themselves (oh yes, they love that Abigail Shrier book).

They often have this tone about how being trans was just a stupid, cringe phase in their lives. They frame it like they were misguided, too influenced by gender positivity, even though from how they were speaking about it, clearly that gender transition was what they needed at that time, and it made them happy, and it's ok if their identity shifted to something else now.

It's mind-boggling how a person that embraced being trans, even for a brief period of their life, can suddenly go and create so much damage to other trans people. Even if they tried and figured out this is not the right thing for them, there are so many people out there who need to try that path too. Bigots are using these detransitioners as a prime example of why gender-affirming care should be strictly gatekept.

And re: regret and so-called irreversible damage. I am saddened that these people's gender exploration ended in them adopting a close-minded, cis-centric worldview. Because even if their body did undergo changes, one should know that a woman with a deep voice and facial hair is still a woman. And a man with breasts is still a man.

#my gender identity has been changing recently (transmasc->nonbinary feminine leaning) and im trying to find more people who talk about it #but all im seeing is this gatekeepy toxic bullshit! #stop being ashamed of trying different genders! #everyone should be allowed to explore! #this logic is so flawed to me #its like saying dairy should be banned because you drank milk once and found out youre lactose intolerant

[mintharan]

one thing i love so so much about wyll is that he's an atheist, not in the sense that he doesn't believe in them, they are materially real in the DnD setting, but that he doesn't think they're worthy of worship "the only thing the gods have ever given me is a cold shoulder" it's so evocative, so poignant, it says so much about him as a character. and really, to me, encapsulates the essence of his character: there is no divine intervention, there are no miracles, there are only people, and for them he's willing to sacrifice more than any god ever would

#wyll #wyll ravengard #this is also why he's so attached to heroes like balduran and ansur regular people who achieved extraordinary things #and this is why i think his quest misses the mark of making him see the flaws in his heroes but not letting him come #to the obvious realization: no one can do it alone #there's no single hero who saves the day #you need a crowd you need the masses #the game itself reinforces this by having groups of allies to support the last stand #so to me wyll's character journey should be all about him realizing that real change can only be enacted by the people #but now we're probably getting too marxist for larian #but anyway to me that's the logical conclusion of wyll's character arc #and also why i don't particularly like the 'send him to avernus with karlach' ending #it robs him of agency and relegates him to a vigilante role that i'm a little uncomfortable with #i much prefer the duke and ranger endings

[bambiraptorx]

I know that logically Draxum probably got away with making the mutagen and oozequitos because he was very careful about hiding his research and whatnot, but the much funnier explanation is that he's already so weird that when he rolled up to an academic conference two months after his lab exploded the first time with his 200 page paper on how he's going to bioengineer mosquitos to be the size of his hand (without giving a single reason as to why he wants to do this), the most he was met with was maybe a few raised eyebrows and a couple people wondering how he still gets grant money

#rottmnt #rottmnt au #minor interference au #rottmnt baron draxum #rise of the tmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt fanfiction #it's of course much more logical that he has at least some degree of independent wealth he uses to fund his experiments #but the funnier explanatiom is that people's response to his research proposal is just #'there's no what this is gonna go well. but i wanna see how it goes investing at 200 notes' #*no way #because the idea of draxum being so so particular about his reputation and how people see him #only for his actual reputation to be 'he's batshit insane' is so funny to me #this is a man who canonically blew up his lab TWICE in thirteen years #like it is not normal scientist behavior to keep having major lab accidents like that #he tries to criticize someone else's research like 'have you consider that your methodololgy may be flawed' #'well have you considered not BLOWING UP your HOUSE' #he's a mad scientist and everyone around him is completely used to it is what im saying

[quaranmine]

firewatch au is an interesting story because mumbo is such an omnipresent non-character. it doesn't matter if i characterize him correctly or not, because his character isn't ever present to exert change in the story. the only thing that does matter is grian's rosy, absence-defined ideals about who his best friend was. every single thing we learn about mumbo is filtered through like 12 different layers of love and grief and denial until he's on a pedestal so high nobody can see the truth. his character is almost solely defined by what someone else says about him.

in doing this, grian also inadvertantly strips away all the little mistakes and mishaps that are part of mumbo's agency and part of him being a real person until he's perfect. and all this idolization ends up making it worse for grian in the end, because he actively avoids engaging in any theories that suggest mumbo might have made a mistake or gone astray. there's clear dissonance between reality—grian knows mumbo got lost and is searching for him—and the way grian lashes out at anyone who suggests something that clashes with the perfect ideal of mumbo in his head, including getting lost. mumbo should be a character in his own story, but grian won't let him be.

instead he wraps his desire to find mumbo into a weird sort of side quest where he's just as interested in finding someone else to blame as he is finding mumbo. he spends the same amount of time trying to figure out exactly where it all went wrong during the search as he does actually searching for mumbo—even after he knows the general area mumbo was last in! it's a puzzle and he can't put anything to rest until he solves it. he's trying to force logic into everything so he can cope with it. because if he doesn't find someone or something to blame, then he has to face the reality that sometimes things just don't make sense. if it makes sense, he can solve it and fix it. if it doesn't make sense...then he just has to live with it, and he doesn't think he can.

#fw au drinking game! take a shot every time grian says something abt Knowing mumbo or makes a bold statement of what mumbo would/wouldnt do #his mindset is so contradictory at certain points. a lot of what he says doesnt make total sense or falls apart under scrutiny. #and that's on purpose! grian is not a reliable narrator in this fic. he's a guy who is Going Through It who needs help. #theres several parts of the fic where he's so logical about things that it loops back into being illogical #cause he's got huge blindspots he can't/won't look around. he selectively excludes things he doesnt want to think about. #this story is more of a study on grief than it is a mystery :( #also dont get me wrong! i am not saying grian is Always incorrect in his characterization of mumbo. they Were besties ofc #it's just that you have to read everything he says about mumbo with the acknowledgement that his grief #has smoothed away every flaw or painfully human bit #and only left a certain limited picture of mumbo left #combine that with his intense desire to only see things that fit within his set beliefs? you've got a recipe for an unreliable narrator #hc_firewatch_au

[cosmicpines]

I'm not done listening to the Alex Hirsch interviews but god it just reminds me both of how much I miss this show and how much I appreciate the love and care that went into it. I love listening to him talk about the characters with a frankness and care that shows how much he values them being three dimensional beings.

#notably his answer about mabel in lost legends i thought was strong of like #yeah were going to give her a story that shes flawed in thats the point of a story #i still dont *love* dont dimension it bc i think it doesnt completely hit what theyre aiming for #the Mabels Fault is so weirdly pointed and bizarre #and her apology at the end is like. eh. bad. it needs another draft i think it needs more space to be explored. #ive been thinking a *lot* about 'mabel hatred' as i think about the show again #i do need to rewatch the show before i make a long comment on it #and how much of it began from people being frustrated that she was continually denied a proper episode where she was allowed to be wrong #in an interesting way #love god in particular is. weird. #and last mabelcorn felt like the beginning of an arc that didnt really happen #like that she was always untouchable in a sense #and that argument was co opted by people who were just unbelievably cruel to her and completely unreasonable #let me be clear: mabel hatred is overblown and absurd and i hate it s omuch #but i also dont like it when people put her on a pedestal of Perfect Unflawed Glitter Goddess #while also being like wow look at the depth of dipper #if youre going to say mabel cant be selfish because shes 12 you also cant say dipper has depth bc by that logic hes also 12 #anyway im sure someone will misinterpret these tags thats why theyre in the tags #mary blabs

[quaiids]

how do you feel about where the boys is at? Any comments on like the quality of s1 vs s2 vs s3. What's like ur personal favorite (doesn't have to be like a critical masterpiece) and which character have u loved the development of the most

right now i feel like the boys is in a very tricky spot where it’s either going to go incredibly uphill and be restored or be completely fucked over by season 4. i’m not a huge fan of season 3’s writing, i feel like the direction it went with certain character arcs (coughcoughHughiecough) was kind of strange and could’ve been done WAAAAY better

my personal favorite will always be season 1 i think. peak hughie and i really enjoy how the story is built up (although my biggest issue 100% is how they handled hughie’s grief over robin. definitely not the best depiction of grief i’ve seen in a show)

honestly i’m not sure if any character’s development from s1 to s3 is very notable. it’s been a little bit since i’ve watched it so my memory is a tad foggy but the character with the most outstanding development to me is hughie’s. and god knows my feelings about how they did him in season 3 (the answer is not very good)

#the boys #hughie campbell #billy butcher #mother’s milk #frenchie #kimiko #the boys tv #text post #asks #send asks #i just. idk #hughies development so far has pissed me off n i hope that he gets straightened out next season #cuz rn hes just kind of an asshole with no real reason when he has so many reasons to be one #they couldve made the narrative push the idea that his grief and his constant surrounding of bad influence turned him into a piece of shit #but instead they just went with ‘haha its toxic masculinity lolz’ LIKE WHAT #WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MAN WHO WANTED TO BE BENCH PRESSED BY A PRETTY GIRL #idk. he just wasnt the right character to have a toxic masculinity arc imo #i notice this a lot with the boys #where they set up or they have these really good ideas for arcs #but the logic they use to implement them is kind of flawed and/or they just. don’t utilize it the way they should #the more i rewatch this show the more problems i find myself having with its writing #and this is coming from a place of love. i love this show and i enjoy watching it but it has so much potential to be so much more than what #it is currently. ykwim

[bnuuys]

i love u aira tumblr i love u aira tumblr i love u so much aira tumblr

#ramblings #24 qrts on a poorly worded tweet in support of aira but still #literally hate him all u want but ur logic is flawed 😭👎 just know that #enstwt grow up challenge miserably failed #ALSO #SOMETHING RLY FUNNY but tragic is like #one of my oomfies is still getting canceled over their take in support of airaPs #AND MY ACC IS LITERALLY IN YHE SS FHAKDHAJDJJSDJJSHD #U CANT SEE MY USERNAME BUT ITS DEFINITELY ME #and good! i was right when i said i ignore enstars writing like my full time job #THEYRE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS RAGHHHHHH #can people. think a little more critically can people PLEASE start doing that #like if u get to be uncomfy and i DONT feel the same way i literally think thats okay #i consume my content critically! i know what im doing #we can coexist and do our own things on the internet instead of viewing this in such a black and white kinda way ! #this is literally so fucking stupid i cant breathe #im just gonna mind my business fr i hate my twt fyp SO MUCHDHDH I HATE THESE STUPID ASS 14 YEAR OKDS SO BAD #ok sorry #normal again bye

[v-arbellanaris]

the excuse is always that the female characters and character of color are badly written. funny how that works. a thing written by the same group of writers and only one or two of the characters are written so poorly that they're impossible for fandom to care about and it's always the women, especially if she's of color. wow, I wonder why. pfft. don't worry, though, fandom will remain a racist, misogynistic hellscape that holds female characters and character of color to standards they never hold their favorite white guy. because as you reaffirmed with your post, that's the way most of fandom likes it.

firstly, did you really go crawling through 4 pages of my blog to find that post? how much free time do you HAVE? secondly, like 14 people liked that post. i didn't realise there were only 28 people in fandom. thirdly,

"how dare you say we piss on the poor" lmao let me rephrase the point for you in a way that you can understand, and if you still don't get it after this, frankly, it's not my problem - i'm not getting paid to do your critical thinking for you.

there can be elements of racism and sexism that mean people dislike fictional characters, but immediately tarring all people who don't like fictional characters with the same brush is not constructive for media analysis. you are not inherently morally superior for liking f characters than people who like m characters. attaching morality to liking characters from a specific gender or ethnic background over others stamps on any potential discussions we could have around why those characters are not written as compellingly as others (usually m white characters) even within the context of the same media. i personally think sometimes these characterisations fall flat because people writing them are more concerned with how the character "represents" a minority (women, women of colour, queer women) to the detriment of the character itself. it is pointless, in my opinion, to complain about people not liking f characters without considering why, and immediately jumping the gun to "they must be sexist". meaningful, constructive discussions about how we write compelling characters and why f characters are less compelling need to happen. complain less about "people don't like this f character" and discuss more "how do we write compelling f characters".

but go off i guess

#asks #lmao where do you get off w sending me shit like this. #fandom critical #anyway. sometimes it feels like there r f characters being written with blorbo-fication in mind #to the extent that the narrative logic behind their decisions or dialogue or whatever feels like a caricature. #rather than REAL. ppl are so afraid to write their women as human and fallible and flawed #and then complain when the characters are not loved compared to m characters that end up being sooo messy #there can & should be meaningful interrogation of that. and this anon is actually exactly the kind of problem #im talking abt. where you can't even TALK about the writing around women without getting your head bitten off for misogyny

[pyromaniac-cyndaquil]

pmd chatot for blorbo bingo? ^^

He's a silly rabbit. I love him

#anonymous #wondermail #tbh w chatot i think ppl jump from one extreme to the other of either 'horrible capitalist' #or 'genuinely plans everything out to test people's faith and is Always Trusting And Good W Protags' #but i think there's more nuance to it than that #he does make mistakes! and he laughs nervously and tries too hard to cover it up and that's why i love him honestly #like when wigglytuff says chatot clearly believed hero and partner all along i think he was trying to give him an out #and chatot could tell and gratefully took that #he's flawed and that's okay!!!! it doesn't make him any less passionate or caring #he's just the head of intelligence and trying to run w what he thinks is logical #anyway. love this disaster birb. will fight ppl who make hating him their personality. (except eots hero bc their dynamic is awesome) #*dives back in w more tags* OKAY HIM NOT BELIEVING THEM ABOUT THE FUTURE AT FIRST MAKES ME THINK OF PARTNER REFUSING TO BELIEVE GROVYLE #it's not a slight to them it's just. he idolised dusknoir and he's in denial. he doesn't wanna believe things went so bad #and honestly i think he's probably wanting to avoid the idea that he let hero and partner down by letting dusknoir so close if he was bad #so he rejects that reality #damn now i wanna make a post about this #but I've also seen the aftermath of my mutuals facing backlash for chatotposting and it's like hmm. ppl can be so negative about him huh

[enderspawn]

okay maybe it is just my unhinged fucking kinnie brain moment or something but like. i get why chip went the seduction route?????

like. yeah didn’t fuckin think through it enough to realize why it’s ultimately bad but i understand why he thought it was a good idea in the first place. i can relate. perhaps in a moment of weakness i would even behave the same. im a breedable chip apologist he was right

#LIKE!!!! IT WAS ‘GET THIS MONSTER TO NOT ATTACK ME’ AND ‘GET THIS MONSTER TO PROTECT ME FROM THE MONSTERS CHASING ME’ #AND. IF IT LIKED YOU LIKE THAT IT *WOULD DO BOTH* #AGAIN. HIS FLAW IS NOT THINKING THRU HIS IMPULSES BUT ITS A LOGICAL IMPULSE FOR HIM TO HAVE HAD?? #LIKE. did that only click as ‘logical’ to ME bc if so I think that’s a sign against me specifically bdksnsnfn #jrwi #chip #og post

[drowningincaffiene]

talking with logic driven ppl as an emotion driven person makes me feel like that sad ant with a stick, my friends told me to leave this school and join a better school and also to leave the city if i wanted to have a better education, and well they are right, this school and this city is literally so boring, but. i have my friends and family here :( i have memorized the path to my favourite cafe :( the lady at the local hair salon knows me by my name :( the milkman and i make jokes :( i have yet to visit the city park :( how can i leave :( they didn't understand this of course

#this is probably a flaw in me that i prefer emotion over logic #thinking of leaving makes me so sad but i know if the opportunity arises i must do it #this place is home #wether i like it or not #moon rambles

[moonscape]

emery just told me about breloom's plot in explorers of the sp!rit THAT'S SO FUCKING STUPID LMAO

#bwark #oh noooo breloom is so badly done to. he got kicked out of the guild for not doing his job. chatot is so cruel. fuck offffff #people saying that chatot pawns off work is such a stupid fucking take #like. you're part of the guild it's LITERALLY YOUR JOB #do you think chimecho wouldn't be kicked out if she just refused to provide meals one day? because she's clearly accomodated help????? #that's so fucking stupid. i haven't even played the game but everything ive heard about it sounds like the creator wants to feel justified #in hating chatot so they make shit up about him. that's a problem with pmd fans in general tbh #no chatot doesn't steal money from you. he's ordered to by the exploration federation #no chatot doesn't pawn his work off on you. he's just assigning tasks?? that's his job??? he's just a manager apply your logic to the real #world please #no chatot doesn't call you a liar over the bad future. wigglytuff literally says that chatot believed you from the start #and no it wasn't to test the guild's bonds. chatot was so obviously lying idk how that's missed so much #like chatot's behaviour throughout the game makes it clear that he likes to keep it professional (because lbr wigglytuff isn't doing shit to #help run things) and it's not unreasonable to for him to think that personal emotions would get in the way of that #that's literally why he lied during that scene. he doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve. it's not some personal vendetta against hero and #partner lmao #like im not saying you're not allowed to dislike him or that he's right for the perfect apple incident and not putting his pride aside after #the dark future (god forbid a character has flaws that he makes up for during the brine cave incident). but like nothing annoys me more than #spreading blatantly untrue information just to justify your hatred of him like. you're allowed to just not like him you don't have to make #it deep or anything #also if it seems like im more defensive of chatot than i should be it's because somebody has to i guess #nobody in the pmd fandom knows how to be normal about him and so mamy people don't want to read between the lines with his character #also im still reserving proper judgement of eots until i play it but everything ive heard from it so far doesn't sound good at all #i can respect it for what it's achieved as a fan project. that doesn't automatically make it good though

[vogelmeister]

i love looking at shit you write when you're trying to learn a language because like,,, take this for example

B: Ja, ik kan bestel nu . Ik wil graag vis met de soep, en zal ik drink witte wijn? Nee, ik neem rode wijn. Misschien de Duitse wijn? Duitse wijn is de beste!

Ober: Zeker. Voor jou, ik zal even een lepel halen. Voor de soep. En zal jullie een voorgerecht ?

A: Nee. O! Heb je kaas met brood?

Ober: Ja. We hebben ook bitterballen. Het is ons nieuwe menu van Nederlands eten.

B: Bitterballen? Lekker.

A: Ik vind bitterballen lekker. Wat eet je liever, bitterballen of kaas met brood.

B: Ik eet graag bitterballen, altijd. Mag we een portie bitterballen?

Ober: Je vindt bitterballen en kaas lekker? Je moet deze kaasbitterballen een proeven. Ze zijn heerlijk!

like... you can tell homegirl is out here, trying to squeeze in every last morsel of dutch she learned. she is creating a story, but she also has written weird shit like "i bring you a spoon" and the whole "wat eet je liever" just to show that she knows that shit. good for her. come back soon.

#ALSO i know there are errors in this bc when i copy pasted this over i had to remove the comments from my dutch teacher #its mainly shit like me forgetting inversie conjugation and not logical shit so my point actually stands #so like i am well aware of the flaws here but im also here to show you what i wrote above all #actually idk what here in particular was not logical bc there was a bit after that was like unnatrual but thats not here is it #no #also this may be the homework where i actually sent in the wrong version sob sob cry cry ofc there were mistakes #i thought it was very funny of me to be like “you like cheese? you like bitterballen? try the FUCKING CHEESE BITTERBALLEN” #i found that hilarious at the time #hey im here to entertain #also i originally used the names of my ocs here lol but idk i just changed them to a and b here bc it doesnt matter

[a-rock-nothing-else]

anyone else have those moments when they realize that they'll be depressed forever. like there's no cure for this shit till you die. like fuck me every inch of this thing is made to inflict misery. and people always say, "do everything you can, it'll get better!" but it won't. I've sat and said, "it'll get better!" to myself for years and the only thing that has happened is me being even more stubborn in not giving in to my urges. wtf am i supposed to do Linda? snort your powdered concealer? suck your husband's dick? let you ignore me so i can slowly rot until you can sit at my funeral and cry and say, "she was such a nice girl, such a shame, nothing could have helped..." as if you gave a shit while i was alive? fuck no. have fun sucking your husband's dick, Linda.

it won't "get better" unless you help me, because I've done everything I can. and if you don't care, I'll just leave and find someone who does. i may be suicidal, but i sure as hell know that no one should be treated like this, and since that excludes everyone, that means me too. can't wait till I get on antidepressants.

#hey everyone should be treated nicely and kindly and be happy excluding only a few war criminals #and the part that deserves happiness includes me #so like. i deserve happiness or else some other people who also have the same flaws as me don't too and I know they do #so I deserve to be happy and to be treated kindly #tw depression #tw suicide mention #tw misgendering #haha look at my wil vwent #this is the first and possibly last time i ever post something like this #it'll definitely be rare #haha #anyways reblogs are okay if you want to #but like. be nice #vent #where are my weevildoing fans rn? #one's right here 😎 #I've found that thinking #you gotta accept that in order to love everyone n think everyone deserves everythin you need to love yourself n think you deserve everythin #just logic bro

[welcometogrouchland]

It's definitely not the most widely held belief in online fan spaces (at least not at it's full potency, I think a watered down version is more widely felt imo) but I do think some fans approach art and fandom with this weird idea that because a bad story disappoints or even hurts the fans of a work, it's like. A personal and/or moral failing of the creator for making that bad story. And it should be treated with the same gravitas as something with more far reaching consequences and implications. Yknow?

#ramblings of a lunatic #the stuff got me thinking about this (broadly) doesn't even apply to this post it just got my brain going #i have a lot of thoughts about how wild the blogging style is across a lot of comics fandom tumblr #about how it's one of the few fandoms I've been in that genuinely can't claim to be more chill than twitter #bc even though twitter is structurally the platform more designed to produce outrage engagement amonst ppl #comics tumblr is genuinely just so naturally vitriolic that it completely matches twitters energy without those structural flaws #like as in there's no real environmental excuse for everyone being crazy it's just like that here #and the occasional toxicity i stumble upon just kind of made me start thinking about this #i do think a lot of ppl on comics tumblr have valid complaints about the works #i just also see ppl treat disappointing stories as moral failures aside from any ~problematic~ content featured in it #(and also. problematic content exists on a sliding scale that logically should effect critical response but doesn't often in comics spaces) #it's like those callout lists that start w/ ships the target doesn't like and ends with their illegal human trafficking ring #girl let's prioritise a bit #i also think that tumblr is an incredibly insulated environment from comic fan spaces as a whole? #like the sledgehammer approach to crit and the ridiculously high expectations for a famously stupid medium #is in some ways a direct response to the supposed vibe of irl comic spaces (often not dominated by marginalized ppl- #-and therefore socially focused crit of the works is shut down/ignored/not engaged w much- #-and that any bad storyline will be praised and elevated if it has superficial crowd pleasers like big fights and power scaling) #and i think there's some merit to that #but i also think that comics Tumblr suffers from the a lot of the chronically online fanspace hallmarks #there's always going to be a different tone when it's me and comics cashier bitching about gotham war #than it is seeing ppl online post in such a manner that discussion is actively discouraged (bc there's already a didactic tone to begin w) #anyway none of this is unique to comics Tumblr (minus the being equally as rancid as twitter) #and it's not like I'm not having fun. I'm actually having a lot of fun analysing the few moments I'm not having fun bc of All Of The Above #comics tumblr is an ideal test subject for my experiments #and i need to make more art so i can nestle deeper in the bushes to watch the wildlife from afar #anyway. at least 60% of you are alright. 20% I'd argue are even cool. #10% of you are right but annoying about it and 10% of you would've done great as catholic crusaders #but unfortunately were born as queer 20-somethings in the 21st century

[heartbrake-hotel]

Ugh. You won't believe this. I'm sorry to bug you, but I just needed to vent.

I saw some idiot on twitter saying that when E met Priscilla he had an eleven year old girl living with him in Germany. They mentioned Scotty Moore said that in his book so I looked it up. What he said was at the time E met Cilla, he had an "even younger German girl" (his words) living in the house with his father and grandmother. Except...well, I can't find any proof of this; there’s no evidence nor mention of this girl (or how old she was) anywhere else in the book nor in any other books written about him. No proof he had anyone else like that living with him in Germany.

So I don’t think that claim is true. Where do people come up with this stuff anyway? How do you not get into an argument with these idiots? Because it's super annoying.

ugh, believe it or not, baby, im not surprised at all. but you could never bug me !!! 💖 sorry it took me so long to answer this, but rest assured i haven't calmed down about this any since you first sent it 😅

a couple notes‐ honestly, i'm inclined to believe scotty. NOT TWITTER to clarify lol.. eleven seems young for him even if you are looking to view e through the most unflattering light possible 😬 but it seems likely to me that he had another teenage girl maybe not uh. officially on the lease or anything but staying over most nights ! more than ONE even sounds plausible.. we all know that someone didn't like his bed cold.!

people who claim to hate elvis sure spend an awful lot of time reviling him on the internet, especially by regurgitating half-remembered anecdotal evidence without citing their sources. 🙄 on the other hand, it's also easy to fall into the trap of too-faithful elvis historian; by that i mean that the fact that so much of his life is documented sometimes makes us complacent in our belief that if it can't be verified by multiple primary sources that it must not have happened. but we can't always say, and getting too involved as if the historical accuracy of one particular proposed event is the end-all be-all of elvis fandom can get exhausting.!

i wouldn't be surprised to find out either way, that this was or wasn't true. but you're free to make up your own mind, and if it distresses you, then fwiw i think you Totally have a leg to stand on affirming it never happened, like you said !! ultimately, it doesn't have much bearing on right now- if you like elvis, this vague and nebulous criticism probably isn't the thing that'll make you stop liking elvis, and if you hate elvis, you're probably determined to keep doing that regardless.

regarding the twitdiots- while looking into this claim i found a lady on there who legitimately believed that agent elvis tells the true story of how e was experimented on and mind controlled into drug abuse by the government.. like she said That with her whooole chest. so i don't put much stock in public opinion over there 😂😂💀

i want to fight those people extremely often (they're not just on twitter, either- it seems to have died down a little praise GOD but especially in early days after the movie there was a wave of ppl on here who would put their elvis hate in the main tags. WHICH DROVE ME BATTY), but i come from the "don't feed the trolls" era of fandom. as much as id like to rip 'em a new one when they rehash the same two issues over and over and OVER again ad nauseum, i content myself with the fact that they're living a pathetic existence in which they actively choose to fill their life with something they dislike for... no discernable reason.?

no one who spends their time bringing up a dead celebrity at all opportunities just to bash them is actually open to a discussion. and i do think there is a discussion to be had- his life was certainly very troubled, and i think there are a lot of nuanced issues that benefit from being spoken about openly !!!

but i like to debate bc i like to WIN- so jackasses tend to be a waste of my time 😘

#ask #if anyone DOES decide to start fighting idiots tho tag team me !!! #ill pop in for a few rounds 👊💥 #i try to just move on without paying it too much attention #and everyone on here is so lovely its a good distraction !!! #i dont think theres any harm in choosing to see the good in people #esp dead people im sorry #like either im right and elvis was a flawed but kind person (all i get is bragging rights) #or im wrong and he was a dirtbag (all i get is . literally nothing) #when i die and meet him ill send yall word but i think we already know what the answer is 😘 #but either way it doesnt have much objective bearing on my life.. #as long as im deluding myself into writing fanfic anyway who cares right?? 🤪 #like who cares if i choose to use him as a vessel to make myself happier #i DO truly believe he was a good person and i think weve p much reached the point where #no one but angie marchese herself could talk me out of that #🙃🙃🙃 #NOTE THIS LOGIC DOES *NOT* APPLY TO PPL WHO MAKE FLOWER CROWN EDITS OF SERIAL KILLERS