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hypersped · 9 months
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The only universe I can see anakin be fully redeemed/not Falling is the universes he doesn't commit the tusken massacre. I can't excuse that. At all.
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cosmic-herbal-tea · 2 years
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As in most jobs, you're not there to be well rounded and happy, you're there to function. It reminds me of guinea pigs. When they get sick, they pretend everything is fine, so they don't get excluded by their group. I don't think it's just simply Anakin not wanting to talk about it, he's also in an environment that specifically told him: If you're not functioning the way we need you to, you can no longer be with us. Pairs well with abandonment issues. While I think you raise a point with the Jedi having more resources than we think, etc. I still want to add: The Jedi don't take on children just because they want them to have the best life they could get (like maybe a parent would want for a child). They want these children to become the best Jedi they could be. Of course this involves mental health as well, but the goal is different. -- @corbygoesart
Okay much of what you said is unequivacolly false.
Being a Jedi isn't just a job; it's an entire way of life and is considered a religion in-universe. Tarkin literally has called it such since A New Hope.
For all this talk of Anakin being excluded, It's really weird how in Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series, they do the exact opposite. Anakin has gotten praise, support, and the respect of fellow Jedi such as Adi Gallia, Luminara Unduli, Plo Koon, Yoda, etc on screen. Even with his hestitance in fully trusting Anakin, Mace actually respects Anakin's skills as a combatant and general. And they sure get along just fine in the series without actually hating each other contrary to fandom's belief.
And finally, you're intentionally framing the Jedi taking in and raising children in any manner to be inheretly negative. Are you gonna say the same thing for Mandalorians when they take in foundlings? Are we gonna question how people in real life religions do the same thing? Conversely, is Mandalorians teaching their own biological children to be Mandarloians okay? Why is that accepted or not? How about people who teach their children their culture/religion/way of life in general, biological or otherwise? What Im saying here is that being taught a certain way of life at a young age is not a form of manipulation by anyone inheretly.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Jedi taking in children and making them Jedi. They can trained them to be the BEST Jedi they can be AND want the best out of them. The two are not mutually exclusive. I chose Mandalorians because that's the easiest, next best known example but what you describe is literally done within any culuture revealed in Star Wars and in general.
Point here is that Anakin didn't want to talk about his issues and it wasn't beacuse he was trying to meet any sort of expectation. I'm really tired of people inserting a whole new non-canon. Anakin didn't like talking about his problems in general and that's understandable. Anakin also did have something to hide that would get him kicked out: massacaring Tusken Raiders and marriage with Padme.
Out of the reasons Anakin did not seek help, it had little to do with some made-up expectations of the Jedi nor does it relate to being in a certain kind of enviroment. I feel arguments like this just want to scapegoat the Jedi when you have a far better scapegoat who intentionally made him think he didn't need anyone's help but their own (Palpatine).
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antianakin · 10 months
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(Weird lightsaber headcannon) CW TUSKEN RAIDER MASSACARE IN AOTC
I think all Kyber crystals want to like, help their owner emotionally, and somewhat think like their owner. That's how anakin still somehow had a blue saber instead of red through the clone wars and most of the prequels. Since the jedi and the crystals work as partners, maybe the crystal was telling him to stop, and calming him down? Didn't work either way, Tusken genocide still happened.
Racist anakin with racist kyber crystal /j
That's... one way to view the kyber crystals.
I don't think I've ever really seen them as quite that sentient, personally. I know that the Jedi do connect with the crystals in the cave, obviously, but we also know that the Jedi are perfectly capable of using spare lightsabers when necessary and seem to just have spares lying around since they bring two to Geonosis to hand off to Anakin and Obi-Wan in the arena (and it's very lucky that they had two since theoretically none of the Jedi who showed up would have known Anakin would be there given he was literally ordered not to be there). They don't KEEP those lightsabers, but they work for both Obi-Wan and Anakin just fine throughout that entire battle and the battle with Dooku later. Anakin fucks with Ahsoka's lightsabers and apparently either puts in totally new crystals or changes them enough to make them blue and Ahsoka seems perfectly fine with this. Obi-Wan even uses one of Ventress's sabers with seeming ease when he has to fight Maul and Savage. Luke uses that same saber that massacred the Tuskens and the Jedi and never seems to have any issues.
So I don't know that the crystals necessarily SPEAK to their owners.
I think I tend to see them more as like... reflections of their owners in as much as the Jedi spend a lot of time meditating with the sabers and using them while in situations where emotions are high. And just like those kinds of things can literally bleed into the walls around you (like Leia being able to feel echoes of Maul and his fight with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon in the Naboo hangar literal decades later), it can also bleed into the kyber crystals. I don't think it necessarily changes the saber much physically, they're not mood rings and so far nothing in canon has gone against the concept of bleeding a kyber crystal to make it red which requires a lot more intentional action, but it can impact what another Force user feels when they pick it up.
This is why my personal headcanon for the Darksaber is that it's sort-of absorbed some Mandalorian values via all of the Mandalorians who have wielded it since Tarre Viszla. It's still a kyber crystal that was chosen and wielded by a Jedi first above all else, so there is always an element of facing your fears involved in wielding the Darksaber correctly, but that the duel is ALSO still necessary because of how long it's been in Mandalorian hands and had that little caveat built into it. Most Jedi could PROBABLY wield it relatively well, but it would never feel like THEIRS until they won it in combat anymore. Similarly, none of the Mandalorians really seem to connect to it much aside from Sabine herself who is, to date, the only Mandalorian to ever actually go through facing her fears as part of her journey towards wielding the Darksaber. She's the only Mandalorian since Tarre to have earned that kyber crystal the Jedi way, and that's also still necessary.
So you can imbue some of yourself into that kyber crystal, but it's not going to turn a blue crystal red just because you kill a bunch of people with it. Anakin's saber killed a lot of innocent people, but he technically did use it while he identified as a Jedi and used it to help people, too. When Luke picks it up, he's mostly untrained and theoretically by the time he's trained enough to start feeling shit, he's already imbued some of his own self into the crystal. It might've even picked up on some of Obi-Wan's own balance and serenity and compassion over the years in Tatooine, even if he never actively used it. I don't think the crystal itself gets damaged because Anakin is often a shitheel while he's using the saber it powers. The crystal is fine.
I don't think kyber crystals are sentient, they don't truly have wills of their own. For the most part, they're just crystals. Think of it more as a conduit. Some things are better conduits for electricity than others; the kyber crystals are perhaps better conduits for the Force than your average brick, but it doesn't make them sentient.
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vikinggirl3 · 3 years
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Overwatch x Star Wars AU
Hi fans of Overwatch and/or Star Wars, I need your help and i humbly ask for your opinion and ideas.
I am currently putting Overwatch into the Star Wars universe for fun but adapting the characters is harder than anticipated. I have already decided on some (but gladly welcome more ideas) and need your help on the ones I have no idea for. It becomes more fun if not everyone is human but it is hard to decide what suits the characters best.
The Overwatch Cast:
Ana - Human, Bounty Hunter. Formerly part of the peacekeeping organization Overwatch but was believed to be murdered by Widowmaker. Now she occasionally helps Soldier:76 on his missions with the alias "Shrike".
Ashe - Mandalorian, leader of clan Deadlock. B.O.B is a droid, naturally. He is either the same droid type as K2-SO or NED-B (loader droid)
Baptiste - Human, Talon defector. Searches for a new path that may actually help the galaxy instead of controlling it.
Bastion - Droid. Was part of the separatist army before malfunctioning, but now has free will. He is a Droideka.
Brigitte - Human, mechanic and part of the rebellion.
Cole Cassidy - Human, Bounty Hunter. Former member of Ashe's clan Deadlock. Not really a Mandalorian but he follows some aspects of their culture. Was a part of Blackwatch but left before the organization fell.
D.va - Mirialan pilot of a remodeled AT-ST. Has a crew called the Mecha-Squad that also has remodeled Imperial Walkers.
Doomfist - Zabrak warrior of Talon and a high-ranking officer.
Echo - Droid. One of a kind droid made by Dr. Liao of Overwatch.
Genji - Human/Cyborg. Jedi Knight of Overwatch but left before its downfall. Now trains under Zenyatta to learn more about the force. Was trained with the force during his youth in the Shimada clan.
Hanzo - Human, force sensitive. Formerly part of the great criminal Shimada Empire. Left the clan and put down his lightsaber and only uses the force for acrobatics. 
Junker Queen/Odessa Stone: Human, runs a crime syndicate known as the Junkers. Her alias is Junker Queen. She took over the syndicate from Mason Howl who betrayed her family when she was young and made her the sole survivour of the Stone family.
Junkrat - Human scavenger (I thought of Tusken Raider but decided against it). Former member of the Junkers.
Kiriko - Human, force sensitive. Her mother was a great warrior and knew all kinds of sword and fighting techniques, including how to fight with a lightsaber. Her mother and Kiriko's grandmother - a former Jedi who had left the order (to reunite with her family in her final years) trained both Kiriko and the Shimadas in secret. 
Lucio - Nautolan (Kit Fisto's species) DJ/Freedom fighter. Part of the rebellion.
Mei - Pantoran. Is/was a scentist on Hoth. Snowball is a droid, possibly a BB-8 unit. Was a part of Overwatch.
Mercy - Diathim, half/part Diathim at least. Medic and former scientist of Overwatch.
Moira - Arkanian scientist. Was kicked out of Overwatch only to join the black-ops team Blackwatch. After Overwatch's fall she later joined Talon, free to experiment without limitations.
Orisa - Droid. A special made droid for the planet's intruders.
Pharah - Human republic soldier or Mandalorian. All I know is that she needs a jetpack and she has to wear armor. Mandalorian seems like the best option because they have one of the coolest armors and jetpack usally equals Mandalorian.
Ramattra - Droid. A remodeled B2-series super battle droid. He broke free from his programming and decided he no longer wanted to fight a war for the Sepratists that didn't effect him and his people - the droids. Ramattra then took it upon himself to lead Droids against their masters and give them the justice they desterved. Null Sector was created to defend all Droids and make all species pay for the massacare of his kind.
Reaper - Human, Sith Lord. Fallen Jedi of Overwatch and now associates with Talon. His motives are unknown.
Reinhardt - Human, republic soldier. Heavy modified armor. Was part of Overwatch.
Roadhog - Gamorrean criminal. (He is the same species as those “pig” aliens that are Jabba the Hutt’s guards). Bodyguard to Junkrat. Former member of the Junkers.
Sigma - A human scientist who went through an experiment in trying to establish force sensitivity in beings that can't excess the force. The experiment made him a powerful force wielder but it broke his mind. Sigma can use both the light and dark side of the force depending on what state of mind he is in. He is currently a tool for Talon after they broke him out of a high-security mental institution.
Sojurn - Tholothorian with cybernetics. Formerly part of Overwatch.
Soldier:76 - Human, former Jedi turned mercenary. Used to lead Overwatch.
Sombra - Human, Sith apprentice/assassin to Reaper. 
Symmetra - Togruta. She was taken from her planet as a child and taken to join Viskhar, an organization connected to Talon but she does not know that.
Torbjörn - Short human mechanic. Torbjörn built droids and other weapons that were used in the republic/separatist war and he is very ashamed of his past. Joined Overwatch to redeem himself but that turned out to be a failure too.
Tracer - Human, force sensitive X-wing pilot. Potential Jedi. Was a padawan during Overwatch but had to flee and go into hiding before joining the rebellion.
Widowmaker - Twi’lek assassin working for Talon. Her husband was a member of Overwatch but Talon kidnapped and tortured her until she was under their control, forcing her to kill him.
Winston - Wookie. A former member of Overwatch. A warrior and scientists smashed into one being. Left Overwatch when Tracer had to flee and they joined the rebellion together.
Wrecking Ball - Ewok. A mechanic genius and a renowned mech fighter.
Zarya - Pantoran warrior. Is a member of the pantorian military and was a great warrior during the republic/separatist war
Zenyatta - Droid. Former Guardian of a Jedi Temple. Knows the force and has a connection to it but he can’t use it. He has taken Genji under his wing as his apprentice.
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fated-lab-partners · 3 years
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Genocide four times? How?
You're referring to Anakin/Vader's crimes, yes?
Here's what happened...
• Massacared an entire village of Tusken Raiders, including, women (non-warriors), and children. They lived in a small village, but his crime is genocide all the same: he killed them because of their race, since the ones responsible for his mother's death were Tusken Raiders.
• The Jedi Purge: he not only killed adult Jedi, but younglings as well. He continued hunting Jedi down personally after the Attack on the Temple, reducing their numbers severely. There were only about 7 Jedi left by the time of the Original Triology due to him and his Inquisitors.
• The Sterilization of Geonosis: He was mostly an accessory, but slaughtering a Queen and her hive definitely counts as taking part in this genocide.
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Note: The events of this comic happened before the Empire gassed Geonosis' inhabitants, but the steps leading up to the Sterilization of Geonosis involved slavery, forced birth control, and other crimes against Geonosians. Therefore, this is still genocide.
• Massacared another Tusken village. Enough said.
I gotta say, if Hordak had exterminated Scorpia's people, there would've been evidence of that. After all, the writers mentioned Prime's genocide-related crimes in S5, and had him nearly destroy Etheria. Why wouldn't they do the same with the Scorpions?
Anyway, yeah.
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