#what are natural consequences

[morriganpostofficial]

#punishment #natural consequences with men #consequences #punishments #natural consequences #using natural consequences #natural consequences in relationships with men #natural consequences vs punishment #natural consequences examples #difference between consequence and punishment #what are natural consequences #example of natural consequences #parenthood

[nordfjording]

never understood the arguments for gender essentialism about whether something is or isnt biological or natural like i dont think nature gives a shit abt who gets to have tits buddy. dont think nature needs you to be offended on its behalf here. join a fjord conservation acivist group maybe

#like if THIS is the hill one is going to die on i can think of several things that are more unnatural and have greater natural consequences #than particular combinations of chromosomes and pronouns #if thats what we're talking about

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Leave wildlife alone. He probably bites.

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#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #a-qing #xiao xingchen #xue yang #shout out to our girl a-qing for seeing the downfall this man would cause at minute one of meeting him #Something to be said about the differences in their 'blindness' also having figurative consequences. #xxc is blinded to consequences by his own naivety. He helps who needs helping because that's what he feels is right. #meanwhile A-qing is falsely blinded; she wields naivety as an outwards illusion while knowing full well that not everyone is worth saving. #She's one of my top 5 fav mdzs characters and I refuse to be quiet about it. #XXC is the kind of person who wants to save baby birds that fall out of nests. Alas. He should have followed the rules of nature: #'If you care - leave it there.' #The little rat man you found is so full of diseases. He bites. He will pee on all your belongings. Do not take him home. #No matter how sad he looks!!!! #For those who don't know what xxc is speaking Spanish: It has become a little inside joke. No significant lore: He Just Knows how. #Everytime he does I am blowing a kiss to the Spanish speaking mdzs community. I will consult you guys on slang as this arc continues. #(Playing around a bit with paneling and layout. To improve means to experiment!)

[hajihiko]

Your tag saying Mikan is gonna have it rough has me worried. She’s already been through enough! I mean they all have but especially her! I don’t even want to imagine what her haunting is like!

there's no metric for suffering so it's not like she literally has more bad than the boys. I just mean that, to me, things pertaining to childbirth and the menstrual cycle is horror in itself so it hits harder

#It just feels more. Invasive idk. Especially for someone like Mikan whos been physically disrespected SO much #Especially when the source of horror is her first 'true' 'love' #I mean eaugh it's giving me Heebie jeebies just thinking about it #I guess it's a case of. I can't imagine a haunted eye or arm. #But the consequences of something Inside Your Body that you No Longer Want? I can imagine that better #But that's getting into serious dark territory even for me #Not saying any of this is inherent horror btw it's just bad TO ME and also I feel like we shouldn't deny the horror of- #-that specific part of a body being treated as if it doesn't belong to you. You know. #Hey man I would have never chosen this narrative but this is what canon said and I'm just thinking the horror to it's end as comes natural

[blluespirit]

I sort of like the thought that Zuko and Aang take the Sun Warriors' warning not to tell anyone about the dragons a little more seriously… and they keep it between them. Of course, they trust Sokka, Toph and Katara. Of course they know they wouldn’t tell anyone, but now three people (including Iroh) know the truth about Ran and Shaw. And that’s three too many when you’re trying to keep a secret.

(and there are other people at the temple as well - like Haru, Teo and The Duke - who, while trustworthy, aren’t as close to them as the others, and when it comes to secrets with as much consequence as this one, you can’t afford to take any chances.)

Furthermore, the culture within the Fire Nation since Sozin’s rein has been warped. The culture is not to respect the dragons as the original firebenders, it’s to conquer and kill them. It’s the ultimate proof of your strength as a firebender. All it takes is one mistake before rumour spreads, and people go looking for the ultimate hunt. It’s not something Zuko or Aang can risk.

Whether Katara, Toph and Sokka (and Suki) ever find out the truth is up to you. But post-war, after Zuko returns from a strange, poorly explained trip with a dragon, and eventually develops the ability to use rainbow fire, either the others have some questions about Aang’s knowing look, or they are finally let in on a monumental secret.

#it’s a kids show so i think for that reason it was played for laughs about keeping the dragons a secret is not necessarily a bad choice... #the show does that sometimes where it says something off hand and then leaves me lying face down contemplating ✨the consequences✨ of that #but there are some… implications there about being too loose lipped with the truth in leading up to the end of and immediately post #war fire nation. just because zuko understands the spiritual significance of a dragon it does not mean the rest of his people will. actuall #its more likely that they'd reject zuko's opinion considering that he's basically coming into power and then telling everyone that #they've been lied to their whole lives. the fire nation is drowning in propaganda. for a lot of people this opinion of dragons and #firebending's true nature being violence and destruction is all they know. fire is LIFE but to most people that's an alien concept #and in terms of keeping secrets - it’s not even a matter of trust it’s a matter of too many people knowing #you might not even realised you’ve revealed some incredible information to someone who has the means to spread it or pursue it #so… i think zuko would be hyper aware of this. since he grew up hearing stories about the 'glory' of dragon hunting #and since iroh has also made a concerted effort to keep this information hidden i think it makes sense he’d be very hesitant to let it #get out to the public #aang would agree i think esp if zuko explained the importance of hiding them even from loved ones #ALSO random but it also makes me wonder what the fire nation said about roku in wake of the war #he had a dragon but he didn’t kill it. he didn’t ’conquer’ it #sozin would have had to work his ASS off to reframe history as him being the more… loyal(?) patriotic (?) of the two #did he frame it as roku didn’t have the courage to kill a dragon??? that he lacked the strength of a true firebender? #the avatar works hard but sozin's propaganda machine works harder 🧍‍♀️ #zuko #aang #avatar the last airbender #zuko & aang #jack talks #sun warriors #book 3 #what is it with me having a whole separate post in the tags 👁️👄👁️

[fowlblue]

Not sure how well to put this but like… from a thinking standpoint, I wish there was a little more explanation about the intersection between magic/law in AF, because both seem to be closely intertwined, and that’s fascinating.

(Of course, I know it’s understandable that those themes are not really typical for the genre and target audience- but it’s still interesting to thing about)

#like… a member of The People with no natural magic. if The Book is partially a base for their laws… what about them? #they suffer no natural consequences for that but they have to follow them anyways. #what about someone who’s already lost their magic?? what incentive beyond the LEP is there to follow the laws at all- mulch is an example #- but I feel like it can go further. is there an artificial process for the removal of magic alongside the natural one? #maybe I’m misremembering everything and projecting what I would think would be a more interesting concept but idk! idk. #artemis fowl

[baphometsgirlcock]

ive rambled about this to my friends but i do genuinely find it so funny that dunmesh just randomly is like "by the way this woman has a penis now" as a throwaway detail. her brother has a one-panel crisis in the general vicinity of her newfound anatomy (which is played off more as a joke about him not being ready to have nieces / nephews tbh), and then it never comes up again. falin just Obtains A Dick and there are 0 narrative consequences. there is one panel of fridge humor and then nada. the most casual possible phalloplasty.

Which is fun enough on its own but also. it's a dragon cock. like. she didn't just get a dick, she got like The Dick Of Legend. truly a pioneer in fantasy furry transhumanism.

#im being glib #but none of what im saying is a lie #also to note this is a manga with indescribable lesbian subtext #and a canonically ace intersex character #plus falin's entire situation is like #a struggle against dysmorphia / dysphoria #monstrous instincts overpowering human nature #and the consequences of pushing against fate #and how enough love and effort can overturn destiny #but even then she still carries that 'monstrousness' with her #but has come to love and accept it as part of her #if that's not a trans allegory idk what is

[noisester]

// Ohhh I'm too busy with school work to narrate the events surely I can trust everyone involved in the plot to not do something horrifying to N

#gifs / #◜ 🔊 . worm ◞ #// /LH BY THE WAY. I DID SAY DON'T HESITATE TO PUT HIM THROUGH CONSEQUENCES. #// naturally he's going through the same motions as what's being written but uh #// I'll still write a small-ish drabble summarising what happened thus far. I was asleep when the. when the.......... *whimpers*

[xanadontit]

My brother texted me asking if I would bring him lunch at school. I told him there’s a PT coming to meet around lunch (true) and I wanted to be here (also true) and he said “my lunch is at 11.”

I’m ignoring him.

#what if we taught him about natural consequences #what if

[claitea]

thinking about anthea and concordia and how they knew n's time growing up in the castle was awful but they probably couldn't do much about it because they were also under ghetsis's "care"

#pokemon #pokemon black and white #pokemon bw #n harmonia #natural harmonia gropius #pokemon anthea #pokemon concordia #clai's art #i dont know what anthea and concordia are like outside of the games where they appear uh. literally once per version. which sucks #so my take is that they. being older than n and also raised by people before being orphaned. did not have the same extreme views #they didnt doubt that humans hurt pokemon at first bc they saw the same injured pokemon that ghetsis brought to n #but they knew not all humans were like that. so they would try to tell n that but he trusted ghetsis above all else #as they got older they realized more and more what ghetsis's true intentions with n were but by then it was too late #n was too deep in the worldview ghetsis forced on him and ghetsis viewed him as disposable #one step out of line from anthea or concordia to protect n or steer him away from the path ghetsis put him on-- #--would probably mean dire consequences for any of them. so all they could do was watch #i hope that all makes sense idk. i dont often write detailled backstories for characters i cant do it well all that much #anyway anthea and concordia DESERVE more of a role in the story than just last minute lore dump #they have POTENTIAL

[martyrbat]

detective comics #484

[ID: college aged Dick Grayson, in his Robin costume, talking to Mr. Haly (the circus owner) after preventing a tragedy from occuring. Dick worriedly asks, “But what will you do now, Mr. Haly? With the damage caused by the fire you might have to sell out...” Mr. Haly reassures, “No, my boy, because for years I've been recoevin these checks — anonymously! Thanks to them, the Haly Circus will remain in my control!” He shows Dick the check, who instantly recognizes it! He thinks, ‘Hmmmm, that check comes from a bank where a certain Bruce (Batman) Wayne is a heavy depositor... What do you know!’ He tells Haly, “Well, you're still on top, Mr. Haly — and I have places to go!” END ID]

#OUGH LOVE THE IDEA OF BRUCE ANONYMOUSLY SUPPORTING AND FUNDING THE CIRCUS BECAUSE ITS IMPORTANT TO DICK.... #i think bruce is the type of autistic to hesitate in saying vocally how much he cares because its difficult to find the right words and his #fear of saying the wrong thing (and how he puts his foot in his mouth often which furthers those fears) and it can be damaging because #people wrongfully take his more quiet nature as not caring. but just how his actions show time and time again how much he cares and loves.. #from silently supporting the circus without even telling dick to his frequent anonymous donations to charities to his nightly paroles #like bruce is a character who loves so much that it can be destructive. that's what makes him so interesting. #he has the brains and logic and everything. he's called the worlds greatest detective for a reason. but his heart is what controls him #he KNOWS the risks he's taking every night and does it anyways. he KNOWS its a Sisyphus task to attempt to stop crine and protect everyone #he tries anyways. he KNOWS the possibility of some people rehabilitation and change is so low that it barely exists. yet he holds onto hope #anyways because theres still that small chance. its a man that isnt reckless because hes stupid or unaware of consequences #its a man that has plans upon plans and tries to be prepared because hes aware of the risks yet does things anyways #this is messy and unrelated to the panel itself i just got struck with a ‘god i love bruce wayne and his love language of silent actions’ #c: detective comics | i: 484 #crypt's panels #bruce wayne #<- cause he was mentioned :3 #dick grayson #robin i #haly's circus

[intricate-ritualz]

i’m sorry y’all hate media with deeply flawed characters who can grow as people w out being medievally tortured as punishment for their mistakes.. i’m sorry y’all hate dear evan hansen

#also. yeah evan didn’t face many irl consequences to his actions but🤓maybe his crushing guilt was punishment enough🤓 #natural consequences and so on #i think people also forget that evan was literally a baby 😭😭 #seventeen!!! #that boy’s still in dipers !! still hasn’t learned how to walk yet!! #which isn’t an exuse for what he did #obviously #and you can hate evan #obviously. #but media is allowed to portray characters who do Shitty shit okay!! stop freaking out abt it! #i do see the argument that it’s a bit glossed over tho #shhh i actually wrote dear evan hasnen and it’s not glossed over in MY version #deh #dear evan hansen #evan hansen

[visual-calc]

Say, does quantum physics correlate with time traveling journey? Time traveling machine quite tempting to be made..

VISUAL CALCULUS [Heroic: Success] — Quantum physics actually has very little to do with our understanding of time, or the possibility of time travel. Most of the relevant theory falls under the theory of relativity, with a little bit of thermodynamics sprinkled in.

At its most basic level, relativity states that our reality exists in four dimensions: the three spatial dimensions we usually think of, and time, which is why we sometimes refer to it as "spacetime". Time is connected to the other three dimensions in a special way: the faster you move through space, the slower you move through time. Similarly, the closer you are to very massive object, such as a black hole or Elysium's core, the slower time passes for you.

This means that it is almost trivially easy to travel forward in time— just steal an aerostatic and fly very, very fast, or take a vacation at the bottom of the ocean. Either of these will cause you to experience less time than a friend who stays stationary or at sea level, so upon your return you will have effectively traveled to the future— by a few billionths of a second. A difference in elevation of a few thousand feet is not enough to create a significant difference in time, nor are there any means of transportation able to reach the necessary speeds to make this a practical means of time travel. But traveling forward is at least theoretically possible.

However, based on your prior interaction with Savoir Faire and Interfacing, I suspect that you are interested in traveling backwards, and I am afraid I need to be the bearer of bad news: it is simply impossible. The arrow of time only points forward. This is a law higher than you, or me, or Authority, or any of us. There is nothing we can do to reverse it, in any normal reality.

Physically, this is intrinsically linked to the idea of entropy, a measure of disorder. Entropy can never decrease— any process that is possible can only increase disorder, never decrease it. Reversing the flow of time and traveling backwards through it would allow you to increase order. For example, if you broke a glass, then traveled back to a time where the glass was whole again, you would be returning it to its ordered state, making backwards time travel impossible just from a physics standpoint. That doesn't even scratch the surface of the possible paradoxes of causality such travel would cause.

However. Not all of Elysium is part of our normal sense of reality. Entropy and entroponetic share the same root, after all— the Pale is entropy incarnate, disorder made manifest. Deep enough in the Pale, this disorder is great enough that our usual notions of time and space have no meaning. Reality ceases to have dimensions at all and the laws of physics break down.

The only way we can travel through the Pale at all is using Pale latitude compressors— devices that allow us to force the Pale into having dimensions again, taking on the shape of our familiar four-dimensional spacetime. No one has ever tried forcing the pale into being anything else. It's easy to see why— for transport of human beings, you want to make sure that they stay cocooned in a reality they can safely exist in. But, I do confess to having wondered whether it might be possible to use a Pale latitude compressor to impose a different type of reality on the Pale. If we're imposing dimensions anyway, perhaps it's possible to pick how they relate to each other such that traveling backwards in time is possible?

Please do note that I do not recommend that you try this, Turtle. Harry's brief encounter with the latitude compressor in Martinaise has more than convinced me that they are not to be trifled with. Additionally, there's no telling whether a set of dimensions that would allow time travel would also allow you to exist, or whether such a set would even exist at all. Most of us have come to like you quite a lot— I would hate to see you perish as a result of an entroponetic accident because you tried to time travel.

#skillsposting #ooc tags: #more high effort viscalcposting! #most of this is accurate up until the Pale stuff #there are a few conflicting theories about the nature of the arrow of time but the consensus is pretty firm that it only points forward #and most of the theories reduce to the second law of thermodynamics somehow #like I said on the falling turtle post: doing physics on elysium is a fucking Time #because the Pale is constantly just lurking in the background as an exception to any law of physics you might want to come up with #what do you MEAN there's no dimensions. that doesn't make any goddamn sense. #imagine my face when I realized pale latitude compressors might be able to allow faster than light travel #(by the same means as I described in the second to last paragraph- you might be able to pick dimensions where it's possible) #IDK if that actually works- I hate relativity and want to think about it as little as possible #<- I say as if my research isn't on something that's a direct consequence of general relativity. I am an unrepentant hypocrite.

[craycraybluejay]

who wants to make Fight Club irl w me

#fight club #every day i just want to get in a brawl #idc if i lose i just want to fight with no outside consequence #like yes. injuries and potential emotional damage and whatever. #but like. without the law interfering. without the sensitive-hearted humans interfering. any of that #only the heat of battle and its natural consequences #so what u broke my leg we're still best buds and i'll see you again and be ready to fuck you up right back soon as it heals #or before then #call me a risk taker i guess #i wonder if i can convince any of my friends to fight me 😭 #but it wouldnt be enough we'd both go easy from our bond #i want a death match. i want to expect grievous injury #shouldve been a cis guy when thunderdomes were a thing #what if i become rich manage to make an island and then like #declare it its own nation with my laws #and we can have fights w consent forms and other stuff #i know its a useless fantasy but its nice anyway #imma try to get some shut-eye

[ctl-yuejie]

i think - especially after the last episode - the audience will generally agree that chueam is also just a 22 year old making mistakes and having her own vices etc.

at the moment, I am not sure how deliberate the writing is for her character because p'jojo is tweeting a bunch about lesbians being the best and saving the gays (which I appreciate in a lot of ways) and it makes me wonder how intentional it is that besides the messiness of everyone around her - which she has also contributed to - her friends do burden her with cleaning up the mess. she is the leader of the gang and yes - mew had the role of table saver and collecting everyone after a drunk night out - but she also is the spokesperson for the group in a lot of sitations and currently i am pondering the fact that mewray decided to throw a party but then got too drunk and high to be awake so she had to represent the group, talk to the police and coordinate with top to solve the situation.

she does try and micro-manage her friend group based on her own image she has of everyone (and even what her ideal friend group is supposed to be like) and maybe tries but mostly fails to actually run fruitful interventions for ray so her outburst at him is a bit misplaced, but i cannot help but think that the stress of suddenly being the one person (plus april having to step in) in charge of the party made her explode.

there are a lot of instances where the others do take on the role of caregivers, but I am curious whether the gendered roles the group sometimes falls into is sth the show wants to comment on.

#only friends #only friends the series #might clean this up later to make more sense #i don't take jojo's tweets to represent what is happening in the show #nor as sth negative #but i think it is curious that in a show of messy gays the lesbians are put on something akin to a pedestal #sure they have isses - but they resolve them like adults by way of communicating honestly #so i am looking forward to everything taking too much of a toll on april because chueam is so deeply involved in everyone's mess #and her having to take charge at the party might be a first step into that direction #i think it is the interesting line of one person policing someone else's behavior to a degree that isn't warranted #at the same time you cannot help but feel like there is some justification because just like that person you can see all the possibility of #that person's behavior bearing grave consequences or backfiring on them #e.g. atom is her little brother and an adult so she's doesn't really get a say whether he sleeps with boston #at the same time i can feel how she anticipates her brother to catch feelings and knowing that boston is not the guy for that type of #relationship #they hinted at the group having tried to get ray off drugs before but at the moment she doesn't really intervene and when she does it is #because ray might risk not only the party but also jail (at least in her eyes) #really difficult line between overbearing and presumpteous and 'naturally' falling into the role of 'the adult in the room'

[warabola]

It's about having the prescience to know the consequences of your actions, of knowing what havoc you might wreak, and choosing to go all in anyway.

#whether it's in spite of or even *because* you know what the consequences might be #it's just such a good archetype to me. it usually ends up being a flame that burns brilliantly bright but burns out fast #just because of the nature of the Chaos Bringer #but god it's so good while it lasts