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redvelvetwishtree · 6 months
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What I've been asking for a while now!! You all love watching animes and reading and watching stuff with such themes but can't seem to understand it now that it's really happening.
Given how obsessed western media and Israel were with the "bUt h@m@s" narrative this time, it makes it plenty obvious that ham@s is no longer the t€rr0r1st body that Israel once empowered and enabled it to be. It's just people/freedom fighters wanting their land back after they've experienced decades of similar barbarity it appears.
And how anyone thinks Palestinian people will come out of the current massacre, mass murder and cruelty all chill and cool is beyond me. Do you seriously expect they won't want to avenge their loved ones after the stuff Israel did to their families??? The school year in Gaza had to be ended because all kids were DEAD. Entireeee family lines have been wiped out. Their hospitals, refugee camps, bakeries, schools everything has been turned to dust. Their internet and phones were cut off while aid was refused entry and all of this is stuff you can read without crying, and feeling sick I haven't listed the stomach turning shit yet.
Oh btw are you all still seriously believing that Israel is out there doing you a favour by t@rgEt1ng h@m@s? They're just killing and slaughtering and destroying so they can expand their colonized land later (this has been said by Israeli politicians and people). Also, they don't care about hostages from their country so before demanding their release from h@mas, talk to Israel.
And what happens when they're done getting rid of h@m@s which I know they're not doing that but still? Palestinians will thank them and carry on with their lives? What have you all been encouraging and celebrating Ukrainians for? Why doesn't that same logic apply here? You don't expect one ounce self-defence from Palestine later??? After alllll that was done?? Get your brain checked.
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kunosoura · 2 years
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I can’t link a whole lot of sources but y’all geoff young isn’t some hotshot repressed bernie type that the kentucky democratic party is snubbing because of his progressive agenda... he’s been a wild card local punchline for years. He’ll run in every position, against anyone, under just about any party’s flag, to get in an election. He’s sued just about every notable face in the kentucky democratic party, alleging conspiracies to rig primary elections against him. He’s done this sort of thing multiple times. There isn’t any possible version of the democratic party that’s gonna side with a guy who’s made himself so thoroughly their enemy, especially in a red stronghold where recent redistricting has gerrymandered the shit out of it, making a blue flip extremely unlikely.
I’m not stumping for the ky democrats by any means, the way they responded (outright impuning his mental faculties) is disgusting and in general they’re a bunch of incompetent buffoons, but don’t get too starry eyed over a politician because the democrats don’t want him.
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sarcasticscribbles · 2 months
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BOYCOTT EUROVISION FOR ISRAEL PARTICIPATION.
I am the Eurovision gay this time of year, I love this show. Not only is my country hosting 2024 but it's also in a city I love, but I can't watch as people sing about peace and love while Palestinians are getting killed by one of the participants.
I've complied a couple of petitions, open letters and information regarding Eurovision: Eurovision isn't the highest priority regarding Gaza, but this show is marketing & tourism for countries, Israel is using it to pink wash their politics
According to SVT, Swedish television network in charge of Eurovision 2024 in Sweden Malmö, Eurovision is apolitical, and therefore Israel qualify. They refer to any calls for boycott meaningless ( via )
SVT statement:
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[ID: "SVT statement on the debate over Israel’s participation in the Eurovision Song Contest
Israel’s participation in the Eurovision Song Contest is generating debate and today a number of Swedish artists have called on the EBU to cancel Israel’s participation in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. It is the EBU’s decision which public broadcasters may take part in the event, and as the host broadcaster, SVT follows the EBU’s decisions. The humanitarian suffering in this deeply complex conflict is devastating. Nobody can be left unmoved by the current situation in Gaza, or by the Hamas attack in Israel. We are also concerned about these developments. We understand and respect that groups of people wish to make their voices heard. As the host broadcaster, SVT has an ongoing dialogue with the EBU about the challenges of producing Europe’s largest TV-production in times of unrest. We are humbled by the task and are working to ensure the project can be carried out in the best way possible, with the vision that music unites." END ID]
Eurovision has always been political, and was created as a celebration of peace after WW2. Songs are statements, and EBU took action by banning Russia and Belarus for the invasion of Ukraine. It's a way to show sympathy and solidarity, which Gaza is in need of now.
Why Eurovision is so important to Israel is the opportunity of pink washing, and appearing liberal and LGBTQ-friendly, that the show encourages. This leads to great marketing and tourism for the country, alqueerian on twitter did a great thread about it:
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[ID: Tweet from @ alqueerian on X formerly known as Twitter. Tweet: "A really quick thread on pinkwashing and why it’s wrong: pinkwashing is a term that was coined by LGBTQ Palestinians to specifically refer to the use of homophobia as a justification for israeli war crimes, ethnic cleansing, mass displacement, starvation etc." END ID]
Full thread
WHAT YOU CAN DO:
Here are a couple of petitions, open letters and links to encourage the ban of Israel in Eurovision
And if all fail: we boycott
Here are two petitions for the ban of Israel: Petition 1
Petition 2
A list of emails and contact information for broadcasters regarding Israel participation: copy, paste and send. Document
It's created by verilybitchie on YouTube who also made a great call to action video I can recommend
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[ID: Screenshot of verilybitchie youtube video "Genocide at the Eurovision Song Contest". The video is showing an article by Chris Lockeyer, news reposter, titled "Israel to compete at Eurovision despite boycott threats" The article says: "The European broadcast Union said its member organisations approved Israel's participation in the competition and it remains aligned with other competition organisations on its stance." The article is from December 19th, 2023. END ID]
And for Swedes, I think it's extra important for us to speak up; here's what we can do:
Open letter via Björk & Frihet, a charity in Skåne offer letters to sign but also have pdf version to print at home!
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[ID: Photo from Björk & Frihet, a swedish charity offering open letters to sign to send to the government. "Stoppa folkmordet" as the letters are ladled, means "stop the genocide" END ID]
This is also a letter regarding the contest being held in Malmö, a city with a long history fighting for Palestine! Sign here
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[ID: Vote for Swedes in Malmö to sign to protest Israel's participation in Eurovision. END ID]
Meanwhile, don't forget your daily clicks to help Palestine while we wait for EBU to stand by their words and prove we are united by music!
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[ID: Iceland's Hatari holds up Palestinian flags during Eurovision in Tel Aviv, May 19, 2019. END ID]
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criptochecca · 3 months
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I am very confused about the holodomor do you have any sources on anything regarding it?
For what I know the best literature on the topic is Whatcroft's Years of Hunger, but I haven't read it
Douglas Tottle's Fraud, Famine and Fascism is an introductionary read, it's very short (170 pages) and debunks a lot of the propaganda around the Holodomor, like photos from the 1920s famine used for the 1930s. It's not entirely correct on the chapter of Thomas Walker because the first american to talk about the famine was actually Gareth Jones, I already linked this article in another post
I think the most respectable position is that there was indeed a famine (some people call the famine a hoax but it's a very small number of idiots and I haven't seen a single serious communist say that the famine never happened. It did happen in fact, and it did not happen only in Ukraine. Jones stated that even close to Moscow you could not find bread), exacerbated by the kulaks resisting collectivization and a probably faulty managment of the famine by the Soviet institutions. If you want to take a more radical stance, then the famine was exacerbated by collectivization, but that does not define a genocide.
Famines were common in the Russian Empire (1891-92, 1899, 1905, 1901, 1906, 1911) prior to the industrialization and most of the famines that happened under Soviet rule were also exacerbated either by the civil war or as a result of the nazi genocidal campaign in Eastern Europe. The "holodomor" was the last big natural famine, the last major famine in the Soviet Union was the one in 1947, because of a drought exacerbated by the destruction of Eastern Europe from Nazi Germany.
Losurdo also talks about it in his book about Stalin
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To Minister of International Development Ahmed Hussen,
Ahmed,
Our Dear Cousin
We cheered for you when you passed your bar exam. We cheered for you at your beautiful wedding. We cheered for you when you had your first child, your beloved son. We cheered for you when you were elected as a Member of Parliament, and finally a Minister. We were so excited to see you represent Canada on a global stage. The New York Times wrote a historic piece on you titled "In Canada, an Immigration Minister Who Himself is a Refugee" - we could not have been more proud. When you shared your experience with systemic racism but highlighted how Canadian generosity changed your outlook on life through your TEDx talk we were delighted to see you share a piece of yourself with the world. We shared your work all over our social medias, we proudly announced your accolades, we celebrated you with full belief that you would be the change maker Canadians needed and deserved. Sadly, our hopes have been met with a different reality. Once, we were blinded by our admiration of watching you turn nothing into something, but today we are seeing a sobering truth.
Since you have been appointed as a Minister, hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed around the world with impunity. Now, we don't fault you for those crimes, but your consistent silence has been deafening. Although your role is to represent the interests of all Canadians while remaining secular, you have proudly shared that your faith and identity has undoubtedly played a part in bringing you to where you are today. With this in mind, we see clearly that you have failed in your role as Minister of International Development. You stood firmly beside Ukrainian people and supported their refugees when they were resisting an oppressive force, but when it comes to Palestine and it's people today, your recent statement lacked the condemnation and passionate stance we have seen you are capable of taking. Your statement minimized the plight and struggle of your Palestinian brothers and sisters, lacked depth and clarity, and did not name today's current situation in the most accurate terms an actively occurring genocide. Although we will never minimize the pain of any civilian or refugee, we are compelled to clearly state the stark difference between your statements for Ukraine and Palestine. With Ukraine you said "Canada stands united with Ukraine and all those around the world, fighting for democracy, human rights, and justice" but when it comes to the struggle of Palestinian people, you fell flat.
Our hearts were broken at your lackluster words when referring to a historically oppressed people. Sadly, we have realized that you won't live up to our expectations and your own promises to be a change- maker and leader. Where is your condemnation of the Israeli occupying forces murdering thousands of children? Where is your condemnation of the genocidal language and unfounded aggression of Benjamin Netanyahu?
As a refugee, how can you ignore the ethnic cleansing Palestinians have suffered for over 75 years? Why have you let your position of power stop you from using clear language to stand with the oppressed people caged in a concentration camp being carpet bombed daily? Children the same age as our own are being blown to shreds or left as traumatized and injured orphans, does your blood not move?
The world is changed through the words of brave people who stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. Decades of unprincipled statements that shy away from addressing the root cause of Gaza and Palestine from politicians like you is the reason why this genocide has continued, claiming the lives and livelihoods of well over 1 million people.
Page two. We write to you this open letter today as your family to simply say -wake up! Open your art and recognize this horrific illegal occupation for what it is, A GENOCIDE. Do not let personal gain, a reputation, and a seat at a colonial nation's table make you complicit to this inhumanity. Announcing Canada's aid commitments without addressing the root cause of this genocide does nothing to recognize the dignity and humanity of Palestinian people. It is a slap in the face to see you announcing humanitarian aid to Palestine when you haven't taken a clear stance against the use of our taxpayer dollars funding weaponry being used to kill innocent Palestinians. We don't need band aid solutions, we need this genocide to be recognized. We need you to speak to the liberation of the indigenous people of Palestine. Your party leader has failed Canada in many ways, the average Canadian's quality of life has tanked according to our shrinking GDP.
There is no re-election in sight for the Liberal party. Is this how you want your legacy to end? With a stain of genocide complicity? You won't have the golden opportunity of standing on the right side of history if you choose not to make yourself clear. We are devastated that today we as a family can no longer cheer for you, you no longer have our respect or admiration. For the sake of saving your legacy and preserving the principles we expect all of our family members to uphold, we ask you to please wake up, take a clear stance, and step down as a Minister to side with the oppressed! You are a humanitarian lawyer, fight for the oppressed! Leave your mark politically to restore our faith on who we know you to be, and hoped you to be. One day your children will see your work as a Minister and they will question you, how will you explain your complacency with a population of indigenous people being massacred?
We leave you with one final note, when we all depart this world we will take nothing with us. Rich or poor, educated or not, we will all be wrapped in a white cloth and placed in the dirt left to answer for all of our worldly actions. So we ask you: Do you fear your maker that you are returning to? We pray and hope you will come to your senses before it's too late. Your role in this government no longer serves you in this life or the next.
#FreePalestine
#EndTheOccupation
#CeasefireNow
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scottishcommune · 7 months
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On Saturday the 14th of October 2023, at a rally for Palestine in Dundee, Scotland, 3rd year student Tánaiste had a speech read out in his absence. In his speech he called out the University of Dundee for refusing to release a statement condemning ethnic cleansing and war crimes against Palestinians, contrasting this with his university's speedy condemnation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In this speech he declared that, if the university has not released an appropriate statement by Friday the 20th of October, then beginning on Monday 23rd Tánaiste fully intends to start a hunger strike. His stated aim is to organise the students and staff at the uni into a campaign that will cause the faculty leadership to reconsider whether silence in the face of genocide is truly in the best interests of the institution. Updates are likely to be shared on Tánaiste's instagram, which can be found here, and on the Dundee University Socialist Society's facebook page, which can be found here.
The full text of his speech is as follows:
I am in England and am unable to be here. Thank you to my comrades for reading this out for me.
My name is TAW-nish-ta (Tánaiste) I'm a 3rd year Community Education student at the University of Dundee. I remember when Russia invaded Ukraine on Saturday 20th February 2022, by Thursday my university and student union had put out a statement: "It is our sincere hope that, even at this stage, a more peaceful solution can be found to the current conflict that avoids bloodshed and tragedy."
A fortnight later, they put out a further statement outlining: "the University’s unequivocal condemnation of the invasion... We must continue to hope that international pressure on Russia will have a positive effect, however bleak the situation may look today."
No public statement has come this time, as we face the real prospect of a genocide, aided and abetted by our own government and so called Leader of the Opposition. I directly asked the Principal why we have put out no statement. This was the University’s response: "The current situation is tragic with a shocking level of unjustifiable violence against innocent people. But it is also very complex and there will be many different perspectives on it. For that reason the University will not be taking a public stance on the matter."
I have no words for this act of moral cowardice. No words. What is complex about ethnic cleansing? What is complex about collective punishment? Which syllable of genocide do they need repeating? I saw a tweet which summed it up so well: "Universities be like 'We support genocide and apartheid. Please seek mental health support.'"
The leadership of my university are making the judgment that it is not in their institutional interest to even condemn genocide. Perhaps they are right. Perhaps the balance of power and PR is that actually to remain silent is in Dundee University’s best interest.
Our task as students is to change their calculation by all means available to us. There are many methods available. We have a student council and student union. They can be used. We can organise mass letters. And other tactics exist.
Our cause is moral, is just, and is seen to be so by the majority of students and staff at my university. They are waiting to be stirred at action, to be mobilised, to be quickened. I would like to announce my contribution to this campaign.
If the university has not issued an appropriate statement by Friday 20th October, I shall not eat food until the University publicly denounces the war and calls for an immediate ceasefire. I do not pretend this will end the war, but as my Principal said, "We must continue to hope that international pressure" will work.
One thing we have learnt so brutally in the comparison of how Ukraine and Palestine have been treated is that Black Lives Don't Matter. The imminent extermination of 2 million Gazans does not provoke our governments let alone our universities, to offer even token support for universal human rights. In the circumstances, a hunger strike for an achievable victory is the least I can do.
I know the University cares about its public image. I gently suggest to them that "Dundee student dies on hunger strike because University won't denounce genocide" will be bad PR. Their open day on 28th October will be marred by day 6 of a hunger strike for all prospective students to see.
I hope that my University looks at the prospect of a white British student starving to death and extends its compassion to the millions in Palestine who, for only the crime of existing, are being hourly killed.
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lets talk about why peace talks now is a pro russia stance.
russia has no shied away from land grabs before. forment some kind of anti government group locally which is usually made up of the rich and the criminal. those with something to gain by annexing territory and those looking to escape legal consequences in other territories. this is what happened in multiple times in moldova, georgia and now ukraine. the little green men in particular are of note because russian forces will enter and annex territory without ever admitting it was them in order to fool westerners into thinking it was local proud uprisings against the unjust.
if we look at ukraine in particular, the breakaway states and outright annexed crimea have been hotbeds of crime and human rights abuses. people who opposed the new regime were tortured, killed and their bodies displayed in public as threats. within the territories captured by russian forces and liberated by ukrainians, multiple torture sites including gas chambers have been found. massacres where bodies of civilians were left in the streets. Mass graves.
do you really think this will stop if peace is declared?
russian forces now have even more of a reason to continue the brutatily as ‘revenge’ for the war. for all the times the soldiers were encouraged for their heinous actions like medals for war crimes. for all the propaganda about how ukrainians are less than human. they will be able to detain anyone they please under suspicions of partisanship and they will never been seen again. all of this is already happening.
the head of wagner, prigozhin, has openly stated that his forces should stop taking prisoners. the breakaway states have said they are bringing back capital punishment for any crime they see fit. there will be no end to the suffering of anyone under the flag of russia. the donbas is run like a mafia. each person with any power is trying to become the new kadyrov.
how many mass graves until people realise this
slava ukraini
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sailorsally · 6 months
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I can’t get over how silent misha can be right now. He didn’t post a single thing about the situation until obama tweeted, then he debated people in the comments, and just left. His last liked tweet is praise for joe biden when Biden then immediately went to Israel and lied about seeing evidence of the “40 decapitated babies” hoax (the White House admitted it). Alyssa Milano signed the “Artists for Palestine” letter but Misha didn’t. It’s sickening and really changed my opinion of him.
I have been saving this ask because I was sure Misha would sign the petition and he did.
I know things become nerve-wracking and we are all on edge but I am begging you not to drop people the second you get the impression that they aren't behaving exactly how you would like them to behave.
Yes, Misha liked a tweet about Biden's efforts to help evacuate Gaza, yes he retweeted Obama's tweet but then he also elaborated in the replies how he condems murder of ALL civilians, Israeli or Palestinian and of course he got backlash for not being bloodthirsty and overjoyed about Hamas killing Israelis. Later he also retweeted Bernie's tweet that heavily focuses on justice for Palestinian people.
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which I think explains his stance in detail, yet he still got backlash. So am I surprised that he didn't tweet much after this? No, I am not.
Misha has organized numerous humanitarian missions, in war-stricken regions like Afghanistan and Ukraine too. He is a pacifist to the point of being nauseating. I am not sure what else he should have done for people to be happy with him over this? Sign a petition? Well, he has now.
(I also suspect him sending people videos saying hi is for a thing he is plotting and I very much suspect it could be Gaza/Palestine related. We'll see)
My advice is to not jump to conclusions and try and make villains out of the actual earnest few good people on this planet when it's full of assholes.
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belle-keys · 7 months
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a lot of folks, progressive and conservative alike, are suddenly going "okay but violence and death are never the answer no matter what 🥺" despite how much they supposedly believe in justice... yet this was not, and has never been, the common consensus about ukraine's defense of their country.
this "humane" pacifist stance is not and will never be neutral - it is fundamentally a pro-israel stance to say "okay but violence and death are always bad 😔" as palestinians are finally defending themselves. it's better to stay completely silent instead of come out unprovoked to call for non-violence especially when the group being labelled as terrorists by the media are fighting against ethnic cleaning, settler colonialism, and genocide.
do you think civilian casualties can be wholly avoided in any war? what, do you think zero russian civilians have died since ukraine was invaded and has been trying to defend and reclaim their country? and how do you imagine that the allies liberated europe in ww2, by the way? so how is it that "both sides" is suddenly the "good" stance in this conflict?
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naartjie-hijabi · 4 months
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I guess your proud off south africa standing up for ukraine as well.
Wait a minute, they didnt.
So when other countries don't support Palestine it's okay, but Heaven forbid we condemn Israel.
I am not my government. I don't get to dictate who they support or give aid to. The reality is, my government was RELUCTANT to condemn Israel but us citizens marched almost every day, put out flags and fought for Palestine. We've been campaigning and campaigning for literal decades and finally we've been heard.
South Africa has economical ties with Russia which is probably the reason why they didn't condemn them, that's not to say the average day citizen is not in solidarity with Ukraine. No one wants war. If my people stand for Palestine, we stand against pointless conflict of all people, INCLUDING Russia's assault on Ukraine.
And why does it matter? If we were a bystander in the past, does that mean we should remain a bystander? What exactly will that achieve - most certainly not peace.
Your whataboutism doesn't apply here. Sorry, but this blog run by a South African teen PROUDLY supports Palestine whether you like it or not and it's not up for criticism. Besides, I can play the same game and ask who did your country support/condemn and then ask what was your country's stance regarding other conflicts. That argument gets us nowhere.
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Blinken: US urging Israel to investigate airstrike that killed World Central Kitchen workers | Reuters
Washington has urged Israel to conduct a swift, thorough and impartial investigation into an Israeli airstrike that killed seven aid workers with the World Central Kitchen charity in Gaza, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Tuesday.
Blinken arrived in Paris for talks with senior officials including President Emmanuel Macron hours after the Washington-based NGO was struck by an Israeli airstrike in central Gaza, adding pressure on Washington to toughen its stance in the war between Israel and Hamas.
"We've spoken directly to the Israeli government about this particular incident. We've urged a swift, a thorough and impartial investigation," Blinken told reporters at a press conference in Paris, adding that humanitarian workers have to be protected.
"These people are heroes, they run into the fire, not away from it," he said of the NGO workers killed in the strike. "We shouldn't have a situation where people who are simply trying to help their fellow human beings are themselves at grave risk."
But Blinken stopped short of directly condemning the attack, unlike his French counterpart Stephane Sejourne. Speaking alongside Blinken, Sejourne voiced France's "firm condemnation" of the Israeli airstrike.
"Nothing can justify such a tragedy," he said.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the airstrike was unintended and tragic, and the military pledged an independent inquiry.
Biden faces pressure from foreign partners, human rights groups and some of his fellow Democrats in Congress to impose conditions on arms transfers to rein in Israel’s offensive in Hamas-ruled Gaza where health officials say more than 32,000 Palestinians have been killed, many of them civilians.
"The killing of these employees – and so many U.N. and other aid workers – is unacceptable. Enough is enough. There must be an immediate and independent investigation," Democratic U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen said.
Hours before the Israeli strike on WCK workers on Monday, Reuters reported that the Biden administration was considering proceeding with an $18 billion arms transfer package to Israel.
Asked if incidents like the killing of WCK workers made the United States think twice about its "flood of weapons" to Israel, Blinken did not address the specific question but said all U.S. arms transfers happened consistent to policy requirements.
"From Day One, we have worked to impress upon Israel, the imperative of protecting civilians, of adhering fully to international humanitarian law, to the law of armed conflict. That is something that we are looking at and review on a regular basis," he added.
CRITICAL MOMENT IN UKRAINE
Blinken was due to hold talks with Macron later in the day. "You can sense the Americans are a bit uncomfortable at the moment," said one French diplomat, pointing to the contrast between Washington's humanitarian efforts in Gaza and its supply of weapons to Israel.
Earlier in the day, Blinken said Ukraine was at a critical moment in its war with Russia and urgently needs more Western support, bemoaning the stalemate in Congress over a multibillion-dollar military package for Kyiv.
"It is absolutely essential to get Ukrainians what they continue to need to defend themselves, particularly when it comes to munitions and air defences," he told reporters.
"It's another reason why the supplementary budget request that President (Joe) Biden has made to (the U.S.) Congress must be fulfilled as quickly as possible."
Biden has urged the Republican-controlled U.S. House of Representatives to endorse the military and financial aid package, but House Speaker Mike Johnson has held up the matter for months, citing domestic priorities.
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twopoppies · 3 months
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Hi,
I follow your blog and consider you quite thoughtful and considered. You may feel that you are being supportive when you reblog content about Isreal and the war, and as a Jew who has learned that most are not interested in hearing any other narrative than Israelies are bad and the Palestinians are good, I will tell you there is a lot of grey in between. If you are ever interested in an open and honest discussion about the situation I am happy to have one any time. In terms of Roger Waters, he is a vile antisemite who has been spewing dangerous antisemitic tropes for years, his own bandmates have disowned him. He is not only an antisemite but a pro-Putan anti-Ukraine lunatic who believes China has a better human rights record than the United States. If he was let go from BMG it was because he is a despicable human, his support of Palestine had nothing to do with it, I can guarantee you that. Please read this article https://variety.com/2023/music/news/roger-waters-antisemitic-says-polly-samson-david-gilmour-agrees-pink-floyd-ukraine-1235515432/
Well, as a Jew, myself, I have never said I think “Israelis are bad and Palestinians are good”. What I do think is that the Israeli government (along with the backing of the US government) is committing horrific war crimes against innocent Palestinian people.
I know very little about Roger Waters or his stances on various things, but from that article he sounds a little all over the place. So, perhaps BMG dropped him because of all of it, perhaps it was the Palestinian support that was the nail in the coffin. But I also know that in general these companies don’t really give a shit about what a terrible person you are (R. Kelly, Chris Brown etc etc) until you do something that directly affects them or their bottom line.
Although I appreciate the offer to look at things from another POV, I don’t really care enough about Roger Waters to delve into it. And I am honestly a bit worn down from listening to the pro-Israeli people in my life defending the Israeli government and settlers. So I hope you’ll understand the thank you, but no thank you, to your idea to discuss further.
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PART 4: THE BUSINESSWOMAN
This is the final part of my 4-part analysis of MCR5, the Masterpost for which can be found here. Link to previous part found at the bottom of the post. If there's something I missed, or you'd like to add your own spin/elaborate on something I brushed over, by all means I'd love to hear it!!
We fucking made it. This is my magnum opus. The apotheosis of my life’s work. This is what it is, what it’s all about. This is MCR5.
I alluded to the character of the Businesswoman a good 11,000 words ago during my deep dive of The Foundations of Decay. ‘She will always be the whore.’ Yeah, that’s her. I also omitted her when talking about FEMCR because I wanted to do it here. She is the only character to appear more than once on tour, aside from Cheerard. The latter appeared in two US shows, Nashville and LA, but the Businesswoman appears in 8 shows total across three countries. We also know it’s the same character apropos of Marina Toybina’s Instagram post, and her appearance evolves throughout. Strap yourselves in, we’re in for a ride.
AUCKLAND: FIX FAX FUCK YOU “But it’s not the end. It never ends. Because WAR never ends. Because war never ends. WAR!!!”
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The first appearance of our lovely lady. As opposed to Cheerard and our Nurse, she’s a lot less cheery, which is what leads me to believe her story isn’t particularly sparkly or sweet. She screams a lot. The blazer and mid-thigh skirt are this nice grey, and due to the specific cut of the blazer, I believe this specific ensemble is utilised for this performance only. I believe the black tie stays consistent throughout the rest of her appearances. She has black heeled boots and black stockings.
I’ve seen a lot of people speculate that the ‘Vampire Mansion’ is where MCR5 is going to take place, and all these character Gerard is portraying on tour are residents of the mansion. With how little we know about MCR5, it’s possible, but I don’t believe this narrative to be as likely. It’d be so much fun, don’t get me wrong, but the fabric of each concept album has intrinsic ties to the psychology of the band at that point in time. Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge is a love letter to horror flicks, but also deals heavily with grief and loss since Gerard and Mikey had just lost their grandmother. The Black Parade is about death and moving on but has those personal undertones in the lyrics about addiction and mental illness that are pulled directly from the band’s experiences. Mikey Way talked about how the band’s stay in the Paramour Estate had exacerbated the issues he was facing, and that Gerard was looking into having him committed.
Two weeks after Mikey left, Ray and Gerard wrote Famous Last Words which of course fits into the storyline of The Black Parade, but also is a direct response to Mikey’s departure and the emotions Gerard was feeling at the time. This pattern of the albums pulling from the band’s experiences at that moment in time is a reason why I don’t think the Vampire Mansion MCR5 Theory is so credible.
Back to the Businesswoman. We know Gerard’s stance on war from the numerous on-stage rambles they have across the tour. The backdrop of the tour is quite literally a warzone, and there’s references to war and 9/11 in the lyrics of The Foundations of Decay. They spoke out about the war in Ukraine (the band was supposed to play a show there, but it was cancelled), and war is this tragic, persistent thing that never seems to end. 2022 and 2023 have been rife with it.
This character is surrounded by war, by terrorism and bloodshed. She’s bitter and angry, and she has every right to be. ‘Fix fax fuck you’ has this sharp tone to it that introduces this character incredibly well. We already have a gauge of this person, and her setting. The next outfits build upon that.
BRISBANE NIGHT 1: EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL “I will not wear a hat in this outfit! And so we move on, we move on, we move on to war! You know what’s in store? More fucking war!”
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(Sidenote: The drawings on the speakers from Mikey’s kids are so endearing.)
The Businesswoman outfit appears a little more conservative here, but it’s our same favourite gal. She’s got sheer black stockings and heels with straps. Her skirt’s just below the knee tonight. She loses the jacket fairly early on in this show, as well as her tie; most photos are of the 1st photo where the outfit is stripped down significantly. I’ve found it incredibly difficult to find decent quality pictures of this show with the full outfit, I think Gerard just Does Not Enjoy Australian weather.
I’ve heard some claims that ‘Everything Under Control’ was what came over the speakers at the World Trade Centre during 9/11, but I can’t find a source for this. At this point, there may be a little bit of plausibility with the Businesswoman Theory. Similar outfits two nights in a row? That’s new but maybe they’ve got a limited wardrobe. They are halfway across the world anyways. ‘Everything Under Control’ seems a little vague, you could tie to just about anything, if it isn’t a reference to 9/11.
Would also to mention here, Gerard Way arrived in New Zealand with a Gucci shopping bag. I’ve done my research and can’t pinpoint exactly what part of the Businesswoman outfit he may have shopped for, but my guess is the sunglasses, shoes or coat. She’s a luxury girl. She doesn’t deserve any less. (EDIT: I found it, but I’m going to leave this here as I add more.)
BRISBANE NIGHT 2: HERE COMES THE AIRPLANE “I have two kinds of perfume on this tour; one smells very calming, like the last day of summer, the other smells like a hospital. It gives me anxiety. Do you know which one I’m wearin’ tonight?”
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If you had any inhibitions about the 9/11 ties to the Businesswoman, this should do it. ‘Here comes the airplane’ implies she’s some sort of accountant or secretary working at the World Trade Centre when the attacks occur. A 9/11 narrative for MCR5 would be macabre no doubt, but no more than the content of the preexisting albums. Skylines and Turnstiles was written in direct response to the attacks, and the band itself was formed in the wake of the events. I don’t think it’s coincidence either that they played that song at this show.
MCR5 as the 9/11 album would be this beautiful dichotomy of old and new; building on the birth of the band itself but speaking to the rebirth and healing that is so integral to the psychology of their return. The Foundations of Decay is all about moving on from your past, and that’s exactly what this band is doing.
The blazer is darker than the one at the previous two, and the skirt is shorter again. They added a grey trench coat and these elbow-length black leather gloves that are remarkably cunty. I can’t tell if these are the same sunglasses to the Auckland show, or if they just have a few pairs and recycle them through the tour. Ms. Businesswoman has a briefcase, likely the same one as the night before, and I can’t find a good picture of it so please just take my word for it. She’s wearing the same shoes as the previous night.
I actually solved the Gerard Gucci Mystery 8 hours ago (I’ve been working on this for about 10 now). The skirt he wears at this show is shorter than the rest and tweed. I found a Gucci skirt that’s $1975AUD and looks incredibly similar if not exact. If it isn’t this skirt, then it might be the perfume. If it’s not the perfume I’m totally lost.
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Fun Fact: This was the show my barber was at. Amy you are so fucking cool.
MELBOURNE NIGHT 1: TERROR “See you in church! I’ll see you in hell! Punish! Punish!... Gorgeous! Gorgeous fucking violence!”
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The order of the Australian shows stumped me for a few minutes. Auckland to Brisbane is all fine and dandy, but then they jump down to Melbourne and back up to Sydney instead of travelling down the east coast. Maybe Sydney just has a nicer international airport.
At first glace I thought this was the same blazer/skirt combo as the Auckland show, but the pockets are different. It’s also not dark enough to be the suit from Brisbane2. This is incredibly pedantic, but the Brisbane1 skirt goes past the knees, and this cut sits just above; being able to differentiate the skirt lengths is vital because otherwise it’s fairly difficult to tell what show each photo is from. The shoes are the same pair from the Brisbane shows, and the gloves make yet another appearance. The trench coat also makes a return, and tonight she’s wielding a black umbrella with a dog head on the handle. I’m not looking into it too much. She’s a dog person.
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The ‘Terror’ written on the drumhead could refer to the feelings of many at the time of the September 11th attacks. Our Businesswoman character is amid the action, she’s terrified. Also terror as a root word for terrorism, which coincides with war. My immediate thought was ‘Tower of Terror,’ which is a Disney park attraction, but also,,, tower,,,, twin towers.
MELBOURNE NIGHT 2: BARK BARK BARK
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This is the first time in 4 shows Gerard has worn a normal outfit, and the last night of him wearing this. As for the drumhead message, we have a few references to dogs, like Gerard howling before House of Wolves at Firefly Festival, but it’s not something to read into. That’s sort of hilarious thing for me to say, considering I wrote about 400 words on the colour green, but I digress.
SYDNEY NIGHT 1: UNKILLABLE
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She’s back! She’s bloody! She’s never looked better!
Based on the style and skirt length, I’m confident this is the same outfit as the Melbourne outfit, now with the boots from the Auckland show and no stockings. Most photos of this show will have her with her jacket still on. Our favourite professional woman in back, now with a pretty nasty head wound. Her preceding appearances as Very Much Alive and the incriminating drumhead messages imply that she has perished in the 9/11 attacks. ‘Unkillable’ could reference how this character is a survivor, her inability to die and her curse to continue to walk the earth even after her death. I did make mention of zombies earlier, and how they could be a metaphor for MCR5’s themes of rebirth. As we’ll see, Ms. Businesswoman refuses to be laid to rest. More likely, it’s a reference to Frank Iero’s accident in Sydney that nearly took his life. Copy and paste everything I just said about My Chem weaving their own experiences into the narrative of the concept albums.
SYDNEY NIGHT 2: UNKILLABLES
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Our girl is still dead!
This looks to be the same as the Brisbane1 outfit, now with the Auckland boots. She’s bloodied up, and now she’s got these gnarly whiteout contacts that make her look Extra Dead. Like the Brisbane1 show, she loses the jacket at some point, and I think the blood gets sweated off in some of the photos.
Not much to add about the drumhead, could be in reference to the full band; they’ve overcome quite a lot and continue to make art alongside their rocky pasts.
TOKYO: GEMINI
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Our girl is extra bloody tonight!
This looks to be the same as the Melbourne outfit with the same heels. Gerard took them off at some point in the show and was walking around barefoot. I learnt this trying to find pictures of this show; just too many with his dogs out. They have both the briefcase and the black umbrella. We have an exponential increase in blood, and a return of the whiteout contacts.
As for ‘Gemini’ it appears fairly left-field because astrology historically hasn’t been a motif within MCR. None of the members are Geminis (I checked, unfortunately), but do you know what the symbol for Gemini is? That’s right. The twins.
My line of thinking is so skewed, genuinely. Maybe Ms. Businesswoman is an astrology girlie.
OSAKA: ENDLESS NIGHT
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Exact same outfit as Tokyo, but the blazer comes off, and there’s a little less blood. I’m going to make a flowchart because I’m having the hardest time trying to place all of these photos.
‘Endless Night’ is a lyric from Vampires Will Never Hurt You, which Gerard has cited as their favourite vocal performance they've ever done.
Before I start the spiel, here’s the flowchart:
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I see a few potential storylines for MCR5 that centre around the Businesswoman.
The Businesswoman was working in the World Trade Centre when it collapsed, but she was able to make it out. The album would follow her complete mental dissolution in the wake of the events, where she imagined she had died in the attacks. We would explore her reckoning with healing and her eventual rebirth. She is subject to sensationalism from her peers as a woman surrounded by tragedy, which only exacerbates the issues she is having. Only when she has completely broken and dealt with her trauma, she is able to move forwards. Alongside healing, the album would feature anti-war sentiment throughout. We would continue the swarm/rot/vermin/decay imagery as a metaphor for her decline and eventual resolve. This narrative would be more grounded like The Black Parade, but still have fun in its lyricism and concepts.
Alternatively, the Businesswoman perishes in the attacks, but is stuck in a time loop that would have her relive her death over and over again. This could explain why she seems to ‘die’ on tour but continues to come back night after night. We’re painted a vivid picture of our iconic lady in the World Trade Centre succumbing to the rubble as she submits to her fate. In those hazy moments between each restart, she’s greeted with these visions that revisited her past and put her in the place of other women. She’d see herself as Joan of Arc, burning at the stake. She would revisit her glory days as a cheerleader, only to see her perfect image slip through the cracks and distort into who she is today. She would reckon with her hopelessness. How easy it is for her to lie down and let the flames engulf her, but in seeing these visions, she’s filled with a new hope and a bitter vengeance. She thinks of the endless cruelty of war, all the lives it takes, and that rage fuels her. She gets up, and she makes it down the staircase. She lives. The bizarreness of the time loop would allow for some interesting songs. I’m really hoping for a Joan of Arc song, it would be the coolest. Like with the previous idea, we’d have explorations of healing, rebirth, femininity, and war.
Any number of narratives surrounding the Businesswoman could be true. She could be alive or dead. She could be in purgatory. She could die in the attacks or be fighting for her life in a hospital bed. She could be in one of the towers when it collapses or be watching from the curb. The concept could be grounded in a way we haven’t seen before, or twice as insane as Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge. Here’s the concrete facts of the album:
It centres around some professional woman.
She has ties to 9/11.
She is dead or has a close call with death.
She hates war.
She heals and experiences rebirth.
I’ve already made note of how a 9/11 album would tie fantastically with the fabric of the band’s return, but another question arises. Why a woman? Historically, MCR’s concept albums have centred around male characters, such as the male Demolition Lover and the Patient. It’s plausible Gerard just wanted to switch things up a bit, but I think it goes a little deeper than that.
As I mentioned before, Gerard has a longstanding connection to femininity. This is something that was definitely alluded to in the Revenge Era, but it would’ve been dismissed as Typical Emo Androgyny from a non-queer audience. In 2014 they opened up about how they empathised with trans people and women, and that at points in their life they had experienced confusion surrounding their identity.
"I have always been extremely sensitive to those that have gender identity issues as I feel like I have gone through it as well, if even on a smaller scale. I have always identified a fair amount with the female gender, and began at a certain point in MCR to express this through my look and performance style. So it's no surprise that all of my inspirations and style influences were pushing gender boundaries… Masculinity to me has always made me feel like it wasn't right for me."
"I never really subscribed to the archetype masculinity growing up... There was a time where I was called a girl so often that when I discovered the idea of transgenderism I considered myself to be more of a girl. So I identify with trans people and women a lot because I was a girl to a lot of people growing up."
The former quote was from the Reddit AMA, and was followed up with “It was really freeing to be able to talk about gender identity btw.” Representations of female characters on the return tour spark commentary on multiple fronts, a lot on how we view femininity and how society loves to make spectacle of tragic women. This fits in well with how MCR has critiqued masculinity, but I think it also has more emotional value. Portraying these characters has allowed Gerard to express himself in a way that just would not be accessible in the early 2000’s and even the 2010’s. The fact that they’re clean, sober and have gotten professional help (Mikey too) is undoubtedly a reason as for why the whole bands seems to be at their happiest in this era, but I think being able to experiment and express femininity onstage has added another layer of catharsis for Gerard.
Copy and paste AGAIN everything I’ve said about the concept albums being an outlet for the band’s experiences. MCR5 is going to centre around a female character, and I think more explorations of gender identity are incoming. It’s a concept that’s not been so explicitly explored in MCR’s history, and I think Gerard should be given the space to vocalise and represent those experiences on an album. It’s something I believe is alluded to in one particular unlisted song, but more to be said in the next part.
This album is a personal statement from the band, it’s a work of deliverance, a visitation of their ruins and a promise to rebirth. We do not move forward in spite of our pasts; we move forward alongside them.
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Excuse me? And these comments, oh my god. If you're from the west talking ABOUT war in Ukraine, talking TO people FROM Ukraine, don't you dare to apply your western standards of speech to us. Don't you dare using your "Karen" thing to this situation. I do not wish war upon anyone who has never been through it. It is pain, it is loss, it is grief. And using Muslims as an argument, out of nowhere taking that stance that Ukrainians think all Muslims are terrorists - what the hell? Just shows these people know nothing about Crimea, Crimean Tatars and their beliefs too.
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Hello, I'm a second-year undergraduate student! My bachelor's is in International Studies, so I have various classes that span different disciplines but often touch on contemporary events. My first year was exciting, I was receiving a fairly nuanced array of perspectives and opinions on world conflicts, say, the war in Ukraine.
My university is generally understood to be a reputable and respected institution. Before last semester, I would have agreed.
However, their "nuanced approach" to teaching contemporary conflicts conveniently disappeared once Israel began its genocidal operations in Gaza. I've come to realise it has very close ties to Israel, and there is an obvious silencing of pro-Palestine voices. Faculty members feel surveilled (recorded lectures), and I've seen fellow students being harassed by others because they support a ceasefire.
I've talked to friends and acquaintances who support Palestine; we are all at a loss. We cannot voice our stance because of fear of being harassed, we are constantly fed Israeli propaganda, and our professors have begun to avoid touching on the topic. We learn international law, have a module on the Genocide Convention, yet we are told to ignore how Israel's actions are described in every article! Our degrees are supposed to be in International Relations! It's ridiculous.
We're trying to stay as informed as possible, doing what we can to subtly change other student's opinions by presenting them with information. But I've lost so much respect for the institution I pay to educate me and emit my degree, it's just enraging that they claim to form "critical thinkers" and "well-rounded" professionals when books written by pro-Palestinian authors aren't even available in our libraries.
I have no idea who else to ask for advice because professors have turned me down. Currently, my main concern is how to best stay immune to incessant propaganda in academic environments.
In advance, thank you for your time and response.
I'm sorry to hear it, that is a tough situation. You have a few choices as to how to respond. I can't tell you what to do because they will all require different actions, decisions, and consequences from you, and I can't predict or guess which course of action you will feel to be best. So yes, this is offered as advice only and you can choose what comes next.
First, if your university is in fact directly doing this, there is probably an element of fear. High-profile universities such as Harvard and UPenn have been attacked particularly by bad-faith right-wing actors due to alleged antisemitism, even though the Republicans don't care about antisemitism either and just want an excuse to bash left-wing liberal higher education. It's true that some universities have handled this incredibly complex issue very badly, have allowed fairly open antisemitic hate speech on their campuses, and aren't sure how to course correct back to "neutral," because "neutral" doesn't really exist here. Either side you take, you will piss someone off, and very few people have the tools or competencies to teach a well-rounded view, even if they should if they're literally in International Relations. So your university may have decided it's not worth being attacked by the bad-faith camps on either side, particularly the Republicans. There may be grubby internal politics at play (i.e. a major donor threatening to withhold funds or a high-ranking official threatening to cause problems if they allow open criticism of Israel on campus). This is not admirable, and it clashes with the idea of universities as blissfully nonpartisan idealistic environments of pure learning, but American universities are now very much beholden to the corporate shareholder model, and if the shareholders want to influence what is being taught or talked about, they can.
Therefore: you can do one of a few things. One, you can just stick it out, finish your degree, get the diploma with the university's name on it, then go somewhere else for your career or grad study that will allow you to operate outside this restricted environment. Two, you can stay at the school and continue to address this conflict in a responsible and accurate way in your assignments, bearing in mind that it might lead you into conflict or lower your grades. (If you do this, it will help to have a group of people doing it with you, and keep track of paperwork, communications, and other materials in case you end up in academic or legal arbitration and need to argue that you have been unfairly penalized). This will obviously require a little more sacrifice on your part and it is difficult to say how it will play out. But if you feel strongly about standing up for yourself and arguing that this is integral to your degree and program of study, you can do it.
Last, as you're only a sophomore and thus still have time to transfer, you can think about doing that. It is difficult to uproot your life, plans, college setting, friends, etc, but it is still a choice. If you feel that it is not worth your time to continue to pursue an education in this environment, and/or that the effort it would take from you outweighs the benefit that it would confer, you can leave, and search for an international relations program that is more willing to take a nuanced perspective in this issue. As I said, only you can decide where the line is, and what qualifies as a total deal breaker. If you're still getting a good education in other classes/areas, and still feel like it's good value for your tuition money, then it might be worth it to just quietly disagree with what you're hearing in this realm and do your best to maintain perspective outside of class.
I know that many young people (and people overall, but especially those under 25) have strong opinions on Israel/Hamas, and I would lastly caution you to avoid getting swept too far in the other direction; i.e. ONLY surround yourself with people who call themselves pro-Palestine but are usually just only anti-Israel and more specifically, just antisemitic. It should also not be the case, or at least I hope it's not, that you are being peer pressured by your friends to leave your degree and university altogether just because their position on this one issue leaves a lot to be desired. As I have said before, life is complex. You will have to make choices about what you want out of a situation and weigh up what is best for you to do. You should certainly understand, as I noted above, that if this in fact an actual university policy and not just a few professors and classes who have decided to avoid it, it probably comes from fear of financial, political, or public consequences and is not because those involved are simply "bad people" and just love genocide. So yeah.
As I said, only you can decide what you want to do here. It may be that by this time next year, this issue (which has been dominating headlines/discussion since October) will have died down or at least moved into another phase, and the pressure for people to discuss and/or not discuss it in a certain way will have also died down. Be aware that you will always have to make choices about what you do and don't want to do, and there will never be a perfect environment that just supports everything with no complications. And be sure that whatever you do decide to do is what is best for you, and not pushed one way or the other by either professors or by peers. I know this can be difficult, but by asking for advice, I hope you're willing to put in the time to think and do what's right.
Good luck!
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Here again. I understand what you say and i appreciate you listening and your insight. Thank you for responding too. There are some things i need to say. The 'Ukrainians house nazis' myth was perpetuated by Russian state TV, please don't listen to it. People are often called 'nazis' by Russians for wanting Ukraine to have independence... They have recently on TV said Ukrainians have an inferior genome and that we have to be wiped out for being nazis. And this is something very often repeated by Russians themselves not just the Russian government. Ukrainians both online and offline are attacked by Russians for speaking Ukrainian, wearing Ukrainian flags, ect. Recently a Ukrainian boy was attacked for speaking Ukrainian: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/1/7418095/ The Russian government, the Russian people, the majority of them want Ukrainians dead. More than 30% of Russian citizens do not want their country to return occupied territory back to Ukraine. This is something Americans need to understand and that Russian people are not innocent and simply blind to it. The Ukrainian government may not be ideal at all, but we are only defending ourselves from Russia and its imperial forces and have been for years. I think the answer to how to align your support here is clear, because it is Russians who are celebrating other eastern europeans deaths and losses while they can easily not sign up to the Russian armed forces in its quest for genocide, all they mostly get for not joining their armed forces is a small fine. They are not forced to invade Ukraine but chose to. Russian imperialism has been an issue in Eastern and Central europe for very long. It was the Russian USSR that engineered a famine, lead countless genocides, empowered colonist rule, enact extreme martial law, put people who tried to speak up into labor camps (similarly, Russia is now putting people in concentration camps in occupied areas of Ukraine)... The thing about the American States and Russia (including the past USSR) is that both of them are imperialistic, colonialist superpowers, and to defend one or try to see "both sides" when one is invading a country they helped weaken over decades is inhumane. I agree that America should not try exploit this invasion in order to enact a larger war against Russia.
I agree I don’t think there is a “both sides” situation, however, effective propaganda has a layer of truth to it, and not engaging with what aspect is true makes it easier to buy into lies.
The trouble is, western media keeps showing us Ukrainian nazis. The biggest gift to Russia’s propaganda is the Azov Battalion and larger Azov Movement. A few months ago a Ukrainian WW2 nazi got a standing ovation in Canada before the audience realized who he was. Philadelphia in the US has debated removing a monument to Ukrainian SS members. Similar monuments in Canada, also for Ukrainian SS members, have come to public attention. Far-right, white supremacist, white nationalist, nazi, and nazbol groups have gained traction in the last 20 years in North America and across Europe. Azov and C14 (and their ties to SBU) in particular have been the focus of antifascist Ukrainians for the last ten years. All of these are examples of how allies and axis powers alike have refused to acknowledge their roles in WW2 or recognize that fascism has been on a dramatic rise. None of this is unique to Ukraine.
Nazis are present and we need to address them, without legitimizing Russia’s lies. Every time a squad member of Azov or similarly-stanced platoon shows up with a sonnenrad patch to do an interview, it legitimizes Russia’s lies to people. “No nazis here,” from a guy with a wolfsangel tattoo convinces people that Russia must be telling the truth about nazis, and therefore the truth about everything, since the West acknowledging Ukrainian nazis would force them to reckon with their own nazis.
The reality is that Ukraine is not uniquely nazified, and even if it were, Russia does not give a shit. That’s not why Russia is doing this. And to boot, the fact that antifascists have put combating Azov and co on hold to fight Russia should be a massive signal to everyone what a present and immense threat Russia’s invasion is. If Russia was truly invading to kill nazis, every antifascist would step aside and say “go get them.” But they know that’s not why Russia is there.
Yes, it is a mistake to believe any of the lies and justification coming out of Russia for their imperialism, but it plays right into their hands to sanitize the Ukrainian government or military.
Identifying the grain of truth, adding it into the narrative, and still realizing that Ukraine is victim to Russia’s attack is an essential process.
Also, FWIW, I disagree slightly about the view on Russian people. No, grace should not be extended to Russian civilians delighted in the imperialism, or participating in it, and grace certainly should not be expected from their victims. But resistance IS there. Anarchists work to undermine Russia, and tons of protests have been staged to combat the state, at great cost to participants. Near twenty-thousand people have been detained, with many stories of brutality and torture for the protesters. Russians working to disrupt the war with more direct and violent means have made vows to die before detention, as they acknowledge that they could be tortured for information about their comrades and their death is the only means of keeping each other safe.
Polls kept coming out about how Americans 'mostly side with Israel over Palestine', when anyone on the ground could see how much more pro-Palestinian marches outnumber pro-Israeli. Whether it’s more Russian propaganda that a lot of Russians agree with them, or it’s true and resistance is small, I cannot find it in me to blanket assign condemnation to “Russians” as opposed to attaching sole blame to Russia as a government and state. Russian civilians jonesing for violence could not achieve what they want without being backed in it by the state.
I am an anarchist in communication with international anarchists. Ukrainian, Russian, Belarusian, North American, German, Swiss, and countless other anarchists are in agreement that Ukraine is the one to support, because the situation not people vs people, it is government vs government, and people vs government--and Russia’s government is attacking Ukrainian people.
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