#wotc ogl

[coffeecup-homebrews]

WotC wants the corporate speak to placate everyone into forgetting what they’re aiming for. Don’t let the outrage die.

UPDATE: These have been confirmed to be fake. Apologies for putting out fake information, that was not my intention. I’m not deleting this because a) it was my mistake and I don’t want to sweep my mistakes under the rug, and b) I want people to know it’s fake.

#opendnd #dndbegone #dungeons and dragons #dungeons & dragons #dungeons and dragons 5e #dnd 5e #dnd beyond #dnd ogl #wotc ogl #fuck the new ogl #ogl #ogl drama #ogl 1.1 #d&d ogl

[ellismacvey]

Visual representation of WotC's D&D OGL 1.1

#ogl 1.1 #fuck the new ogl #ogl drama #dnd ogl #wotc ogl #ogl #dungeons and dragons #d&d #dungeons & dragons #dnd #wizards of the coast

[sanssheriff13]

Unsleeping City season 3 about an evil game company trying to take away fun and wonder in the city when.

#dimension 20 #d20 #dungeons and dragons #dnd #d20 tuc #tuc #wizards of the coast #ogl #fuck the new ogl #wotc ogl #wotc #brennen lee mulligan #the unsleeping city #unsleeping city

[grigori77]

So, about Critical Role’s statement on the new WOTC OGL ...

I know, I know, it LOOKS LIKE they’re trying to hedge their bets, that they’re trying to appease the evil empire (WOTC) while also trying not to alienate their fans, and perhaps there’s even a fraction of truth in this point, but ... REMEMBER FOLKS, THESE GUYS ARE NOT JUST A BUNCH OF FRIENDS PLAYING A FRIENDLY GAME OF D&D ANYMORE.  They’ve built up a real business based around what they’ve been doing, and this is something they need to protect.  If it was just about THEM, about the game and the webcast at Geek & Sundry, you know they’d cut ties in a heartbeat, going back to using Pathfinder like they started out with before the release of 5E.  But there’s so much more to it for them now.

They’ve got The Legend of Vox Machina on Amazon (there’s a reason there are subtle differences between what’s happening in the show, from powers to races to the names of the gods themselves, compared to the original Campaign 1 liveplay, and thwat’s so they can get around the copyright issues in order to make the series IN THE FIRST PLACE).  They’ve got all of the offshoot merchandise, which people have to make, and a series of tie-in expansion books and games - sure, some of them have been published by Darrington Press, but there are others which were specifically made by WOTC themselves, which means their contents are trapped FRONT AND CENTRE under the conditions of the new OGL).  MOST OF ALL, though, they’ve got the show itself, hell, they’ve got the ENTIRE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY of Critical Role itself, which isn’t just run by them - they employ HUNDREDS OF OTHER PEOPLE, from their crew to evrybody working on the periphery, right down to all the jobs that were created just to help them make and distribute their tie-in games and merchandise.  That’s a hell of a consideration.

If they piss off WOTC by coming right out and saying what I’m sure they REALLY WANT TO about this, that could put them in a really bad position given that D&D Byond is one of their major sponsors, they’re using the 5E platform and intelectual materials to put this together in the first place, and some key parts of their own material are now, thanks to this new OGL, technically THE INTELECTUAL PROPERTY of WOTC now too.  They can’t just drop D&D Beyond as a sponsor and wash their hands, they’re pretty STUCK right now.

So yeah, they’re being cautious about what they’re actually saying here, so it sounds like they’re trying to appease BOTH SIDES of the argument.  Because they REALLY ARE.  They have NO CHOICE.  It’s clear enough if you actually PAY ATTENTION and read between the lines here that what they’re saying to WOTC is purely to put them at ease, there’s birtually no real SINCERITY in their words, but when they’re talking to the community at large, the ones who are being GENUINELY HURT by this new situation, they’re thoroughly commiserating with them, entirely trying to prop them up, their sincerity HERE is COMPLETELY REAL.  They love us, they’ve made it abundently clear OVER AND OVER AGAIN already, and they don’t want to fuck us over about this.

Look at it this way - look at this in eighteen or so months’ time, when the current campaign comes to an end and they have cart blanche to do whatever they want when it comes to Campaign 4.  If you ask me, they’ll jump ship entirely, go to one of the other gameplay systems or even create their own (they might even do it SOONER if Matt can come up with something himself while Campaign 3′s still happening), and when they come back to Exandria (or maybe even a completely new setting, which I think MIGHT BE more likely, even if it does mean saying goodbye to the possibility of tying in with the previous campaigns going forward) there will be some MAJOR SHAKE-UPS where they no longer have to pay ANY lip-service at all to WOTC’s properties.  Hell, if there’s any way they can use a little legal grease to try and wrangle Exandria and Stuff out from under WOTC’s grip while they’re at it I’ve no doubt they’ll try, although I’m a good deal LESS confident about THAT.

Just remember, these guys are on OUR SIDE.  They’re in a really impossible situation right now, and they have NO IDEA how this is actually going to turn out so they are JUST AS SCARED AS US right now, but they’ve got A WHOLE LOT to lose if it all goes proper south on ‘em.  So just think about THAT before you start badmouthing Matt, Marisha, Travis, Laura, Ashley, Taliesin, Liam and Sam about trying to play the middle or delivering a “milquetoast” statement.  This really is THE BEST they can do right now ...

#critical role #WOTC OGL #be nice people

[jewishdragon]

This was actually really helpful in explaining the OGL shitstorm

#dnd #dungeons and dragons #dnd ogl #wotc ogl #wotc #Youtube

[pixelpaladin]

Why must WotC be like that

#dnd #mtgcommunity #dnd memes #mtg meme #wotc ogl #dnd ogl #wotc #this is why we cant have nice things

[dungeonmalcontent]

In case anyone was wondering if this whole D&D OGL controversy is actually as big as we're saying or they want a glimpse of how many people are actually really interested in jumping ship to a new system.

Kobold Press just released a new blog update about their Black Flag project (a d&d alternative system), and I'm trying to go look at the blog post but they're getting so much traffic the site crashed. The site crashed because enough people wanted to read a blog post.

Tabletop players are salivating for something that doesn't want to put them through the profit grinder.

EDIT: small correction. And this is actually way more impressive. The blog update was a couple of days ago. But they just sent out an email bulletin with the blog update as the featured article. People crashed a site with traffic because they were clicking a link from an email to go read a blog post.

As someone who has done a fair share of marketing copy for this kind of stuff. That just straight up does not happen. Ever.

#dnd #d&d #wotc ogl #kobold press

[jagerbombastic99]

Its just such a bleak time for art right now and it's killing me. HBO max is deleting large pieces of media from existence, Netflix literally will not finish a show before canceling it, AI art and the abuse that's coming with it is running rampant, twitters collapse looming over us all like a giant meteor, and now this stuff with WotC and the OGL. What made corporations to decide to escalate their awful decisions protocol? It's actually ridiculous

#art #twitter #wotc ogl #fuck wotc #opendnd #fuck ai art #fuck hbo max #fuck netflix #dnd

[mephestopheles]

So, I'm sure this is going around dnd tumblr, but I've not really been paying attention until the leaked doc came out today. In short, they're basically trying to do an end run and fuck over a bunch of indie artists all while trying to scoop of the "profits" they think they missed out on.

One, I believe someone intentionally leaked the docs so there can be community uproar and the profit hounds can see the writing on the wall. Because this will kill dnd, not completely, you'll have some die-hards, but this spells trouble for paizo who just came out with 2nd edition, and all of the indie publishers.

Two critical role and dimension 20 are almost guaranteed safe because they have licensing agreements with WOTC just because they're rather big names and are dealing in insane numbers, look at the Kickstarter for CR, and their twitch numbers, they worked out licensing agreements just because of what they bring in and what they're doing.

Three, this is a cash grab, someone saw the numbers of what other companies are doing under the OGL and got it in their head that this profit was somehow theirs and now they're trying to take it. What they fail to realise that is WOTC can't keep up with the avalanche of content that an OGL offers, and they are truly going to alienate a lot of people if this goes forward.

The current leaked contract can apparently be revoked at any time provided there's like 30 days notice, any content you create is automatically under their creative control which they can in turn use as promotional materials and profit from it.

It's 2023, I'm not a big blog, I don't pretend to be, and I'm probably one voice out of a few hundred that's screaming, but if anyone knows how to let WOTC that this kind of license is going to kill whatever profit they thought they were getting, I'd love to know.

#dungeons and dragons #new OGL #wotc ogl #wotc #wizards of the coast #leaked ogl

[inkedbantam]

In the wake of the wotc ogl bullshit

My gift to y'all

Fuck wotc

#boycott wotc #wotc ogl #fuck wotc

[batsarebetterthanpeople]

You know what would slap is if WotC revoked the OGL like they appear about to be and then immediately got into a long protracted legal case with disney over starwars rights because of the starwars ttrpg, because there are a few potential outcomes to that

A) we get the OGL back or something similar and Hasbro learns their fucking lesson

B) Star Wars changes hands again and Disney is forced to stop MCU-ifying it

C) Somebody goes bankrupt

D) (worst possible outcome, please not this one) Hasbro and Disney come to some sort of agreement that is Star Wars specific but doesn't do literally anything else and benefits no one other than these two megacorps. (most likely but I want one of the other three so fucking bad dude)

E) some outcome I have not forseen because I'm not a legal analyst I'm just some guy

No matter what tho it would be a long protracted legal battle that both Hasbro and Disney would be burning potentially billions of dollars on and I think that would be beautiful

#wotc ogl #free d&d #dungeons and dragons #star wars #disney #hasbro #ogl

[vulpiezeya]

Was I the only one who watched this and was disgusted? Can we get #FireChrisCao trending, or something? We cannot let this man destroy our game.

#dnd shorts #dnd #D&D #dnd ogl #boycott wotc #wotc #wotc ogl #firechriscao #fire chris cao #Youtube

[craigofinspiration]

Hasbro, probably

#dnd #opendnd #open game license #d&d #open d&d #dnd ogl #ogl #dungeons and dragons #dnd memes #wotc #wotc ogl #hasbro #one dnd #dnd beyond #wizards of the coast

[wandering-artificer]

WotC executives using a front of a survey to funnel our complaints to keep people from communicating about it online is one thing, and leaked information telling us that WotC won’t let employees see the changes we have offered for OneDND meaning that the same is going to happen to our suggestions.

And on top of all that they ask us to compile our thoughts into a survey asking what we want when we’ve been basically been voicing our concerns everywhere really shows that Hazbro and WotC executives have paid basically 0 attention to our actual concerns and has only seen the statistics of money being lost.

If you haven’t canceled your D&D Beyond subscription, do it now cause they only way they’ll pay attention is when the money they get from us is on the line

#dnd5e #ogl 1.1 #ogl 2.0 #dndbegone #hazbro #wotc ogl #opendnd #serious post

[coffeecup-homebrews]

Hey look, it’s the apology that should have been sent out three weeks ago. Better late than never I suppose. Give it a read. 

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1428-a-working-conversation-about-the-open-game-license

#dnd ogl #wotc ogl #ogl #ogl drama #dungeons & dragons #Dungeons and Dragons #dungeons and dragons 5e #dnd #dnd5e #wotc #fuck the new ogl #fuck wotc

[makiruz]

Speaking on the D&D OGL thing; if Legal Eagle is right then Wizards of the Coast has been scamming you all for years

If what the original OGL said is that you can use the rules of D&D but not any copyrighted material, then that was already legal, no license required, because it turns out you cannot copyright the rules of a game, you can use the rules of Dungeons & Dragons all you want so long as you don't use any names or stories made by them.

BTW it would also mean that the OGL 1.1 was scummier than previously assumed if it sought to charge for something that is legal to do

#OGL #DnD #D&D #copyright #Wizards of the Coast #WotC #wotc ogl #my post