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A Murder at the End of the World
“Chapter 7: Retreat”
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Bughead Moments in Riverdale that Also Happened in the Comics: Season 1 (Part 2)
Here are some additional Bughead moments in the comics that also happened on the first season of Riverdale:
♥ Bughead are married (in a dream sequence).
Comics: Early to Bed, Archie #43, 1950.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Jughead puts his arm around Betty’s shoulder.
Comics: Shoe Shoe Baby, Laugh Comics #108, 1993.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Archie realizes Jughead’s feelings for Betty.
Comics: He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not, Betty #65, 1998.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Betty tells Veronica how wonderful Jughead is.
Comics: The Real Me, Jughead #151, 1967.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Bughead hold hands while walking down the street.
Comics: Concerted Effort, Archie’s Pal Jughead #111, 1964.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Betty kisses Jughead.
Comics: To Sleep, Perchance to Dream, Betty’s Diary #16, 1988.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ FP asks his son Jughead about his feelings for Betty.
Comics: Man to Man, Jughead #312, 1981.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Betty pledges her undying support for Jughead.
Comics: It’s Friendship, Jughead #313, 1981.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Betty holds Jughead’s arm.
Comics: Do or Diet, Archie’s Pal Jughead #102, 1963.
Show: S01E07: In A Lonely Place, 2017.
♥ Veronica ships Bughead.
Comics: Splitsville, Betty and Me #11, 1967.
Show: S01E08: The Outsiders, 2017.
♥ Lazy Jughead helps Betty prepare for an event.
Comics: Thrills and Spills, Archie’s Pal Jughead #183, 2007.
Show: S01E08: The Outsiders, 2017.
♥ Jughead puts a protective arm around Betty.
Comics: Rhythm and Blues, The Jughead Jones Comics #100, 1996.
Show: S01E08: The Outsiders, 2017.
♥ Jughead comforts a crying Betty with a hug.
Comics: Worlds Apart, Betty and Veronica #274 (2015).
Show: S01E09: La Grande Illusion, 2017.
♥ Bughead watch a movie at The Bijou.
Comics: Conform and Reform, Archie’s Pal Jughead #75, 1961.
Show: S01E10: The Lost Weekend. 2017.
♥ Betty and the gang throw a surprise birthday party for Jughead.
Comics: A Surprised Party, Archie’s Pal Jughead #86, 1996.
Show: S01E10: The Lost Weekend, 2017.
♥ Jughead declares that Betty and Archie are his only best friends.
Comics: The Beginning of the End, Betty and Veronica #272, 2014.
Show: S01E10: The Lost Weekend, 2017.
♥ Jughead kisses Betty’s hand.
Comics: Noble Nibble, Archie Annual #8 (1957).
Show: S01E10: The Lost Weekend, 2017.
♥ Bughead give Archie a hard time because of his sappy music.
Comics: Dancing Fool, Betty and Veronica Double Digest #122, 2004.
Show: S01E11: To Riverdale and Back Again, 2017.
♥ Betty gets busy with school dance preparations (and Jughead sort of helped).
Comics: Prom Promise, Betty #7, 1993.
Show: S01E11: To Riverdale and Back Again, 2017.
♥ Betty and Jughead attend a school dance together.
Comics: Walking Baby Back Home, Archie’s Pal Jughead Annual #4 (1956).
Show: S01E11: To Riverdale and Back Again, 2017.
♥ Betty scolds Archie and Ronnie for doubting Jughead.
Comics: Tall Tale Test, Archie Double Digest #151, 2004.
Show: S01E11: To Riverdale and Back Again, 2017.
♥ Jughead tells Betty and the gang that his family is planning to move to Ohio.
Comics: My Friend Jughead, Jughead #1, 1987.
Show: S01E11: To Riverdale and Back Again, 2017.
♥ Betty finds sad Jughead at Pop's chock'lit shoppe.
Comics: Silver Bromide, Betty #98, 2001.
Show: S01E12: Anatomy of a Murder, 2017.
♥ Jughead calls Betty on the phone.
Comics: Nice Slice, Jughead's Jokes #11, 1969.
Show: S01E12: Anatomy of a Murder, 2017.
♥ Betty insists that Jughead belongs in Riverdale.
Comics: A Moving Experience, Archie's Pal Jughead #98, 1997.
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
♥ Bughead share a hug (near a car).
Comics: Double Trouble, Archie Meets Riverdale #1, 2022.
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
* Not sure if this counts though because the comic, which was obviously based on the actors on the TV show, was released later than the episode.
♥ Bughead and the gang save someone who fell down a frozen lake.
Comics: Catch 2, Laugh Comics Digest #58, 1985.
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
♥ Bughead are having a laugh at the chock'lit shoppe.
Comics: Tomato Surprise, The Jughead Jones Comics Digest #97, 1995.
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
♥ Jughead tells Betty he loves her.
Comics: Splitsville, Betty and Me #11, 1967.
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
♥ Betty tells Jughead that she loves him.
Comics: A Lesson in Logic, The Adventures of Little Archie #48 (1968).
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
♥ Bughead make out in the kitchen.
Comics: Study Buddy, Archie’s Pal Jughead Annual #3, 1955.
Show: S01E13: The Sweet Hereafter, 2017.
♫ You made me a, you made me a believer... believer! ♫
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Timestamp #CLS6: The Metaphysical Engine, or What Quill Did
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Timestamp #CLS6: The Metaphysical Engine, or What Quill Did
Class: The Metaphysical Engine, or What Quill Did
(1 episode, s01e07, 2016)
Meanwhile, not in detention…
Miss Quill locks the students in detention and then goes to see Ms. Ames in the school hall. The goal is to remove the arn, but Dorothea Ames warns Quill that the process may kill her. Quill replies with her best “give me liberty or give me death,” and they begin as a man named Ballon arrives. They are miniaturized and transported inside a mysterious device that Ames pulls from her satchel.
In a moment, the trio materializes inside an alien forest. Ames tells Quill to remember her earliest childhood memory while Ballon goes hunting. Ballon returns with a dead animal that he claims is an arn, lured by the bait of Quill’s memories. Extracts from the young arn corpse will help extract the creature from Quill’s head.
Ames adjusts the device again, explaining that it is a metaphysical engine capable of transferring individuals into a thought or belief. In this case, the forest is the idea of heaven for the arn. The trio warps out again as Ames explains that the Governors study the tears in spacetime at Coal Hill. She also reveals that Ballon is a Lorr shapeshifter (who posed as a Zygon before being frozen in one form and apprehended for murder) and Quill’s surgeon. They arrive in the Lorr version of hell and encounter the Lorr devil, from which they must extract blood to free his hands. Ballon overcomes his fear and completes his task with Quill’s help.
The next step in the fetch quest is finding the brain of a Quill so that Ballon can learn anatomy. They travel to Quill heaven – which Miss Quill says shouldn’t exist – to witness the Quill goddess’s birth. Once they find it, Miss Quill attacks the goddess in fury over her people’s genocide. Before the goddess can speak to Quill, Ballon decapitates it to rid Miss Quill of her fear.
The arn begins to pain Miss Quill, indicating that she believes that the surgery will work. The trio returns to Coal Hill and Ballon completes the surgery, having bonded with Quill over their shared sense of exile. The surgery results in an extreme disfigurement to Quill’s face, Ballon uses the flesh of the Lorr devil to heal her, leaving a scar behind. Quill sees this as a mark of honor for a soldier, then celebrates victory by having sex with Ballon.
When the couple rouses from their recreation, they explore the school in search of Ames. They eventually find her standing in a vast desert and she tells them that Coal Hill was an illusion. They are actually standing in the Cabinet of Souls and she is a hologram being projected from the outside world. The Governors only left enough energy for one of them to return to Earth and Ames suggests a fight to the death after giving Quill her trademark gun and Ballon the news of his niece – the only other living member of his species – living on Earth.
Oh, and time flows differently inside the Cabinet, so the time to decide is now.
They decide to fight and Ballon overcomes Quill before taking up the gun. Quill demands that he shoot her with honor, but Ames has left one last surprise: The gun is coded to shoot the person holding it. In the end, Quill buries Ballon’s body in the sand and gazes upon the souls of the Rhodians as they materialize around her. She tells them that she wishes that they were dead.
Quill returns to the real Coal Hill and discovers that several months have passed for her despite being gone for only 45 minutes in real-time. She tells her students about the arn and collapses, revealing that she is now several months pregnant.
It’s a shame that this much mythology comes so late in the game for Class, particularly since the concepts of the Governors and the afterlives visited in the metaphysical engine are so rich. I’m intrigued by the Quill and Rhodian people from before the show, and equally intrigued by the relationship between UNIT and the Governors. Sadly, with one hour left in the series, I feel that we’ll get none of it.
One fun thing was studying the metaphysical engine’s interior. It is obviously a redress of the Twelfth Doctor’s TARDIS console room with greeble-covered partitions to make the scenes more claustrophobic. In fact, the whole production seemed to be right out of the classic Doctor Who alien planet playbook. It’s easier to save money that way.
Rating: 3/5 – “Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow.”
UP NEXT – Class: The Lost
The Timestamps Project is an adventure through the televised universe of Doctor Who, story by story, from the beginning of the franchise. For more reviews like this one, please visit the project’s page at Creative Criticality.
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Meta: Will the Lannisters end like the Targaryens?
WARNING: possible mentions of spoilers/leaks
@fcrncody Thank you Ana, my partner in crime, for being my beta reader! 💖
First of all, this theory is purely for the show, not the books (even if I'm gonna use some quotes from it). I do believe the fate of some characters will be different, I could be wrong tho.
"History is a wheel, for the nature of man is fundamentally unchanging. What has happened before will perforce happen again." I'm quoting G.R.R.M here but as a big History nerd, I always say that History repeat itself and I think that what's going to happen with the Lannisters : their downfall will be a parallel to the Targaryens one at the end of Robert's rebellion. I have this theory in mind for almost 2 years now and since I keep thinking about it, I needed somewhere to write it down.
During the rebellion, we had 4 Targaryens still alive : Aerys, Rhaella, Rhaegar and Viserys (plus Dany and Jon on the way). I'm not sure if I should count Maester Aemon since he took the black and I don't count Elia and Rheagar's children since he disinherited them.
Now for the Lannisters, we have Cersei, Jaime and Tyrion still alive, plus baby!Lannister on the way. I think their deaths or possible survival will be a mix of how these last Targaryens died or survived.
First, the Lannisters have always been connected with the Targaryens one way or another:
Tywin wanted Cersei to marry Rhaegar and she wanted it to
Tyrion and his obsession with the dragons
Jaime killed Aerys
Tywin used to be friend with Aerys and his Hand
Cersei and Tyrion both used wildfire
Joanna was harassed by Aerys
And I could go on...
But one of the biggest connection we can make between the two houses is the incest. The perpetual incestuous marriage between the Targaryens slowly brought their house to the extinction and Cersei and Jaime's relationship caused the war of the five Kings and thus, their own downfall. They have been compared to the Targaryens more than once, by themselves or by other characters.
The Targaryens wed brothers and sisters for 300 years to keep bloodlines pure. Jaime and I are more than brother and sister. We shared a womb. We came into this world together. We belong together. - Cersei, S01E07 You Win or You Die
Tyrion: Sins? The Targaryens...
Cersei: Wed brother and sister for hundreds of years, I know. That's what Jaime and I would say to each other in our moments of doubt. It's what I told Ned Stark when he was stupid enough to confront me. Half the Targaryens went mad, didn't they? What's the saying? Every time a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin.
Tyrion: You've beaten the odds. Tommen and Myrcella are good, decent children, both of them. - S02E07 A Man Without Honor
You think I disapprove? Why? Because people disapprove of that sort of thing where you are from? They disapproved of Oberyn and me where you are from. Here no one blinked an eye. 100 years ago, no one would have blinked an eye at you if you'd been named Targaryen. - Ellaria, S05E09 The Dance of Dragons
We could marry him to Myrcella, once we've sent Sansa Stark back to her mother. That would show the realm that the Lannisters are above their laws, like gods and Targaryens. - Jaime, ASOS
"I am sick of being careful. The Targaryens wed brother to sister, why shouldn't we do the same? Marry me, Cersei. Stand up before the realm and say it's me you want. We'll have our own wedding feast, and make another son in place of Joffrey."
She drew back. "That's not funny." - Jaime, ASOS
Then, we have Tywin and his ambition. He wants to outshine the Targaryens and build a dynasty that could last 1000 years.
The future of our family will be determined in these next few months. We could establish a dynasty that will last a thousand years. Or we could collapse into nothing, as the Targaryens did. - Tywin, S01E07 You Win or You Die
Cersei wants to emulate her father.
I understand we're in a war for survival. I understand whoever loses dies. I understand whoever wins could launch a dynasty that lasts a thousand years. - Cersei, S07E01 Dragonstone
The parallel is clear here, I have even made a gifset.
The funny thing in that conversation between Tywin and Jaime is the fact that Tywin points out they could collapse into nothing when it's already happening, because of his own children. And again, he compares himself to the Targaryens. Foreshadowing?
Before talking about each characters, I want to say that if this theory is correct, I don't think Jaime and Cersei will die together. This show is full of plot twists, irony, parallels and yet, anti-parallels and the characters don't get what they want, this is not a Disney fairytale. And dying together is something they both want, they expressed it numerous times, in the show and in the books, maybe too much?
Bronn: How do you want to go?
Jaime: In the arms of the woman I love. - S05E04 The Sons of The Harpy
We've always been together. We'll always be together. We're the only two people in the world. - Cersei, S06E06 Blood of My Blood
I cannot die while Cersei lives, he told himself. We will die together as we were born together. - Jaime, ASOS
We will leave this world together, as we once came into it. - Cersei, AFFC
If he were dead, I would know it. We came into this world together, Uncle. He would not go without me. - Cersei, ADWD
It's so obvious, as viewers (and also readers sometimes), we expect it to happen. The cast keep telling us how unpredictable the end is, I honestly take everything they say with a grain of salt but I think I'll make an exception for this time. Also, the writers omitted the Valonqar part in Cersei's prophecy. On purpose? So we are going to be surprised if Jaime is indeed the Valonqar? I find it weird when it's already obvious like I said and when they dropped clues back in S7.
Cersei:You murdered your own brother.
Euron:You should try it. Feels wonderful. - S07E01, Dragonstone
Olenna: She'll be the end of you.
Jaime: Possibly. - S07E03, The Queen's Justice
But I could be wrong and the writers will choose the easy path... However, while it's tragic for Jaime and Cersei to die together, killed by each others, I think it would be even more painful for their characters to die apart. Like us, they expect to die together. They are twins, they spent their whole life together and they think it will always be that way, Cersei only feels complete with him... and ripping Jaime away from her? Yeah, sadly poetic.
And now for the characters...
JAIME:
↳ Rhaegar / Aerys
I start with Jaime first since I think he's going to die first.
Source: (x), (x)
In the first still (from the 8x02?), he's wearing a Northern regular armor, similar to the one Robb used to wear. In the EW promo, the armor is almost the same but more more redish, more Lannister, and looks a little like bit the one Podrick used to wear back in the previous seasons.
I presume the costume change will happen after the battle in 7x03. My guess is that battle will not be the last. Wrapping the White Walkers storyline in 1 episode? No, impossible. The war will happen in two times: first that battle, Winterfell is destroyed and the White Walkers are still a threat, Jaime comes back to King's Landing (with the Starks?) [if I remember Nik was spotted on the King's Landing set, could be for this or something else] and then another battle and Jaime dies during this one by the hand of Night King.
Why the Night King? Simple. One of the most important moment in Jaime's life was when he killed the Mad King, a man obsessed with fire. He was mocked all his life for breaking his vows, nicknamed Kingslayer, when he took the right decision.
And then when the king turned to flee, I drove my sword into his back. "Burn them all," he kept saying. "Burn them all." I don't think he expected to die. He ... he meant to... burn with the rest of us and rise again, reborn as a dragon to turn his enemies to ash. - Jaime, S03E05 Kissed by Fire
Most people in the fandom think he will kill either the Night King or the Mad Queen, I bet on the other way. I admit I also thought about Dany becoming the Night Queen and killing him, a nice parallel since he killed her father but I don't see her branding a sword even if she becomes the Night Queen so I stand with the idea of the Night King, a creature made a ice. Honestly, a Kingslayer murdered by a king? What an irony... And, A Lannister always pays his debts.
That was for the Aerys part, now for the Rhaegar part. They are both warriors and if Jaime dies in a battle, it will already be a parallel with Rhaegar dying at the the Trident. Nik also said that Jaime's obsessive love for Cersei "follows him until his very last scene of the show". At first, I was; okay my theory is wrong but then I remembered that quote about Rhaegar:
Rubies flew like drops of blood from the chest of a dying prince, and he sank to his knees in the water and with his last breath murmured a woman's name. - Daenerys, ACOK
We don't know for sure who was the woman Rhaegar mentioned but Jaime murmuring Cersei's name would completely fulfill the parallel with him. And again, a bit ironic here since Cersei wanted to marry Rhaegar.
CERSEI:
↳ Rhaella / Aerys
Now, Cersei, the next who's going to die, in my opinion. I think she will behave somehow like Aerys at the beginning of the season but her death will be a total parallel to Rhaella, and by extent, Joanna and possibly Lyanna.
Source: (x), (x)
Like Jaime, with the costume change, Cersei is wearing the Lannisters colors again. Someone on tumblr (I don't remember who, I'm sorry) said that her grief is over and it could mean she will subvert the villain trope or something along the line. I do agree with the grief part, that's why I don't think she will lose baby!Lannister. Why would she wear her house colors if she had lost her child?
Source: (x), (x), (x), (x), (x), (x)
Notice she has the Lannister sigil back too, as a necklace. It was a link with Myrcella and after Tommen's death, she never wore it again. Only as embroidery on her gowns. The pendant is strategically placed on her "bump", it fits her character; she's (was) a mother, she's pregnant and that child is the future of her house.
Also, some people said we can see a baby bump. I personally disagree, I believe it's only the dress.
I know part of the fandom will scream at me that she's not pregnant or she will have a miscarriage because of the prophecy. First of all, I do believe she's pregnant (or at least she thinks she is) and of course, a miscarriage is still a possibility. Second of all, prophecies are tricky, ask Melisandre. The prophecy was already debunked back in S1 when Cersei told Catelyn about the black haired boy she had with Robert.
I lost my first boy, a little black-haired beauty. He was a fighter too... Tried to beat the fever that took him. - Cersei, S01E02 The Kingsroad
Yet, Maggy still mentioned 3 children:
Maggy: The king will have 20 children and you will have three.
Cersei: That doesn't make sense.
Maggy: Gold will be their crowns. Gold their shrouds. - S05E01 The Wars to Come
Since she was also pregnant with Robert's child in the books, we know pregnancy doesn't count for that prophecy to work. Now, in the show, she gave birth to that boy. He was sick, or got sick, but was alive. My conclusion is that the birth doesn't count either. The only fact that matter is if she raises the child. So Cersei could carry her pregnancy to term and give birth to an healthly, surviving child if she dies in in childbirth or soon after. Which brings the Rhaella parallel.
And again, I know most Cersei stans (and JxC shippers) hate that idea. I confess I wasn't pleased at first but now, the more I thought about it the more it feels like a full circle. Motherhood has always been an important theme in Cersei's journey.
First, her mother: Cersei was a little girl when Joanna died in the most gendered way. She was traumatized by her death and she grew up resenting her little brother for this.
Second, her love for her children: one of the main reason that drives her to do some... things. She repeated countless times how much she loves/loved them and tried to protect them and yet, they all die. Cersei "sacrificing" her life for her last child and giving him a chance to survive is not so far stretched.
Now, how it's going to happen... Maisie said :
After reading the scripts I went back and watched season 1 again, because so much of it refers back to that season. There are so many scenes that will look similar. And also I watched just to remind myself of the arc I've taken already. I wanted Arya to go full circle and try for some kind of normalcy like when she was younger.
I'm not sure if Maisie is only talking about Arya here, however we already know we are going to have a parallel with Jon and Daenerys arriving at Winterfell like Cersei and Robert back in the season 1. Then, if the leaks are proven to be true (Euron forcing Cersei to have sex with him and her saying she "enjoyed" it as much as she did with Robert), we can assume their relationship will be similar to the one she had with her previous husband. I think Cersei will lie and pretend that baby!Lannister is Euron's child just like she did with Robert and Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen.
Jaime: Who will you say is the father?
Cersei: You. - S07E05 Eastwatch
Remember that? I'm pretty sure it was a red herring for Cersei playing Euron in the season 8. Now, we all know what happened to Robert before he had the chance to learn the truth so I bet on Cersei killing Euron in the middle of the season, maybe during the 8x04? Or maybe Jaime. Could be another parallel with:
Ned: Has he done this before?
Cersei: Jaime would have killed him. - S01E07 You Win or You Die
After Euron's death (or shortly before), I predict the Starks (moslty Jon) coming to King's Landing to seek refuge or an alliance because Winterfell is destroyed and they have no other choice. Lena and Kit were spotted on set (and I think Sophie too). It could be a decoy but let's say it's a real scene. Jon looked like he bent the knee to Cersei, I believe we will have a replay of the famous scene with Ned in S01E07.
You must be gone by then ... you and your children. I will not have their blood on my hands. Go as far away as you can, with as many men as you can. Because wherever you go, Robert's wrath will follow you. - Ned, S01E07 You Win or You Die
I think Jon will propose the same deal to Cersei : giving mercy to her and her child (and maybe Jaime and Tyrion) if she leaves King's Landing/Westeros after the end of the war if she accepts to help them (bet we'll see Qyburn's scorpion again). I see her somehow accepting it unlike the first time and maybe that person who said she will subvert the villain trope was right, after all we have that quote:
You love your children. It's your one redeeming quality. That and your cheekbones. - Tyrion, S02E01 The North Remembers
Once the war is won, and Jaime probably dead, the Starks break their promise and want to judge the Lannisters for their crimes, which would be a little parallel with Aerys, when he opened the gates of King's Landing and let Tywin take the city. And like Rhaella, she will escape to her ancestral home, maybe with Tyrion and the help of Qyburn.
You'll be queen. For a time. Then comes another, younger, more beautiful, to cast you down and take all you hold dear. - Maggy, S05E01 The Wars to Come
It would fit the prophecy. She has nothing left, no power, no crown, her brother/lover is dead... She loses the throne and survives the game. Again, a bit ironic since she's one of the biggest player since the beginning and the one who instaured the famous:
When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. - S01E07 You Win or You Die
And then, she dies tragically giving birth... Yeah, full circle.
TYRION:
↳ Viserys / Maester Aemon?
Tyrion... Oh Tyrion... He's the one I'm on the fence, for every theory that I have, honestly. He escaped deaths numerous times but all good things come to an end. I feel we don't have enough clues about his future death or his possible survival. Of course we have that famous quote:
In my own bed, with a belly full of wine and a maiden's mouth around my cock, at the age of eighty," he replied. - Tyrion, AGOT
Or that one:
One day, after our queen has taken the Seven Kingdoms... I'd like to have my own vineyard. Make my own wine. The Imp's Delight. Only my close friends could drink it. - Tyrion, S06E08 No One
I don't think that's gonna happen but if my theory is right, I assume he will take Viserys place, mixed maybe with Maester Aemon, but like I said, I'm not sure if I should count him as a Targaryen. We still have moment that tho:
Jaime: Tell me you're not thinking of taking the black.
Tyrion: And go celibate ? The whores would go begging from Dorne to Casterly Rock. I just want to stand on top of the Wall and piss off the edge of the world. - S01E02 The Kingsroad
If the White Walkers are defeated, I see no reason to build another Wall and no reason to have another Night's Watch, I think it's more like a metaphor for Tyrion being casted away from Westeros and going in exil, and raising his nephew/niece.
Source: (x), (x)
Unlike his siblings, Tyrion's new costume is more subtle. He doesn't seem to wear the Lannister colors and yet... In the first still we got for the S8, he is wearing the usual outfit he has since he joined Dany Team: same shape, same colors... and in the EW promo, his clothes doesn't look really different at first because they are still black and he still has the Hand of the Queen's pin but they are! The shape of the jacket is similar to the one he used to wear in the first seasons, the clips are back and golden and the sleeves have hints of gold.
Source: (x), (x)
The patterns aren't the same tho but we can guess the connection with his family will be back once he comes back to King's Landing after the destruction of Winterfell.
Like I said for Cersei, once the war is over, I believe the Starks will want to judge him for his family's crime. Not sure if he's going to escape with his sister, it would fufill Viserys parallel but I think he will be captured/imprisoned for some time like he was during the S1. Then, he either escapes or the Starks send him in exil with baby!Lannister.
Now, why would he raise baby!Lannister?
I think the clues are in the S7 finale. When Tyrion learned Cersei was pregnant during that emotional scene, they made a secret pact. No one know what is it about, neither the viewers or the characters (including Jaime). The only thing we can speculate is that this pact will ensure the safety of the child. And maybe the throne.
You say you can't have children, but there are other ways of choosing a successor. The Night's Watch has one method. The ironborn, for all their many flaws, have another. - Tyrion, S07E06 Beyond The Wall
Our child will rule Westeros. - Cersei, S07E07 The Dragon and the Wolf
During the S7, Tyrion was concerned by the possible lack of heir after Dany's death, now he has a potential one. The fandom think Cersei betrayed the pact by not sending her troups in the North and that Tyrion is too naive for believing her but... is it true? Yeah, Cersei said to Jaime she didn't trust their brother and she was lying the whole time but nowhere she informed him about the pact and the fact she broke her promise... Why? I always wondered if Tyrion wasn't the one behind the idea to not send the soldiers North. And from the leaks, it looks like he's trying to buy some time. And honestly, look at his costume in that episode:
Source: (x), (x)
Like for EW promo and the previous seasons, the jacket have the Lannister shape and the pattern, while slightly different, looks similar to Tywin's jacket. Everyone always screamed how Cersei's gowns was inspired by Tywin but here...
That pact is gonna bite him in the ass, but maybe not the way we can imagine. I mentioned above a possible parallel between Cersei and Lyanna and it wasn't only about the "dying in childbirth" trope; it was about Cersei asking Tyrion to take care of her child, like Lyanna did with Ned.
Unlike Lyanna and Ned, Cersei and Tyrion have a complicated relionship; they hate each others but yet, I think deep down they somehow "love" each others. And Cersei knows her brother loves(d) her children (except Joffrey but that's another story).
I loved them. You know I did. You know it in your heart if there's anything left of it. - Tyrion, S07E07 The Dragon and the Wolf
I don't want to destroy our family. I never have. - Tyrion, S07E07 The Dragon and the Wolf
Cersei: I only care what it cost us. It cost us our future.
Cersei: If there's no future, then why are we here? Why did you allow me to come? - S07E07 The Dragon and the Wolf
She knows her child will be safe with him. Add the fact: Cersei asking the man; she blamed her whole life for the death of her mother and dying the same way, to take care of her child and Tyrion, who was considered like the black sheep of his family, raising the future of his house: again full circle.
BABY!LANNISTER :
↳ Daenerys / Jon?
I'll be quick here. While I do think in the books that child will never exist, if this theory is correct, in the show, I believe he will survives and take either Daenerys or Jon role, but mostly Dany. If Tyrion dies, then I assume the Starks will raise him and he will not know who are his real parents like Jon but seriously, a blond baby? LOL. If Tyrion survives, then Dany.
We already have a little parallel with Dany and her conception during the 7x03, even if the circumstance are a little bit different. And if Cersei dies like Rhaella, it would be a complete replay of Dany's birth.
Then, Tyrion raises him like Viserys, but in better way, you know. I don't remember if D&D spoke about a flashforward for the end of the show but I could see that happening: the Starks living happily and the last scene is baby!Lannister being introduced and saying he wants to avenge his family/take what should be is. What goes around, comes around... for the Lannisters, for the show.
TIMELINE :
I have made a little timeline of how I think these events are going to happen but some of them can switch, I guess?
Great battle in 7x03, Winterfell is destroyed
Jaime comes back to King's Landing
Euron dies
The Starks seek refuge/an alliance with Tyrion
End of the war - Jaime dies
The Starks betray the alliance
Cersei escapes to Casterly Rock and die giving birth
Tyrion takes care of baby!Lannister
I'm not sure if my post makes sense, it feels more clear in my mind to be honest and I feel like I forgot a bunch of stuff but I really wanted to post it before the premiere. Now, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who have that theory in mind and if you have read all of this, first thank you and second, you probably think I'm crazy so I'm gonna hide under a rock...
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Luther and the Moon part 2 (episode 6-10)
episode 6:
Luther: We need to figure out what causes the apocalypse. Now, there are loads of possibilities. Nuclear war, asteroids. But I'm thinking this is about the Moon. Right? Dad must have sent me up there for a reason. And I was giving him daily updates on the conditions, I sent field samples. The first thing we need to do is find his research.
Klaus: Hold on. Hold the phone. We all died fighting this thing the first time around. Remember?
Diego: Klaus, shockingly, has a point. What gives us a win this time?
Luther: Five. Last time we didn't have him. We weren't all together.This time, we'll have the full force of the Umbrella Academy. That's what we need.
Allison: So, where's Five now?
Luther: Well, he had a plan to change the time line. He'll be back soon.
Diego: I'm going after Hazel and Cha-Cha.
Luther: What, right now?
Diego: Hell, yeah. Three days. I'm losing light by the minute.
Luther: Wait, Diego. Look, I know you wanna avenge your friend, but we got a bigger problem here.
Diego: She wasn't just some friend. If I'm gonna die, I need to know I killed those bastards first.
Ben: You don't look so hot.
Klaus: What makes you say that? I feel great.
Ben: You don't have to do this alone. I know how important this is to you.
Diego: Stop making it about you.
Luther: Klaus? Klaus? Klaus!
Klaus: Yeah! Sorry.
Luther: So, what? You're giving up on the world, too?
Klaus: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Luther: So that's it.You're cool with us all dying in three days? I can't believe it. It's just us. Oh, please, not you, too.
Allison: I have to book a flight back to LA. If this happens, I have to be with my daughter, custody be damned. And you said it yourself, we need the full force of the Academy to even stand a chance. I'm sorry, Luther.
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Pogo: Everything all right, Master Luther?
Luther: Where are they? The boxes, the reports, the samples? All the correspondence I sent down from the Moon?
Pogo: I, uh I'm not sure. Your father was a very private person.
Luther: Stop it, Pogo! You know everything our dad did. What? Clever old man. He never even looked at them. Why not? Why not?
Pogo: Your father was many things. Forthright was not one of them. After your accident, he wanted to give you purpose, Master Luther. He felt that this was the only way.
Luther: What? Shanghaiing me on the Moon for four years? I wasn't a good enough Number One? That's what it was? I couldn't cut it? So he sent me away?
Pogo: No, no, that's not -
Luther: Pogo Please leave me alone.
Pogo: Master -
Luther: Now, please! Get out!
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Allison: Hey. So, I couldn't get a flight out until tonight, and I don't know what to do. I can't just sit here. So I'm gonna head to the airport and wait. I just I wanted to say goodbye. Luther?
Luther: I found Dad's research from my mission on the Moon. Every single package was still sealed.
Allison: Why would he -
Luther: He never opened them because he never cared what I was doing up there. Four years of my life. A lie.
Allison: What an asshole.
Luther: I'm not the right person to stop this apocalypse, Allison.
Allison: Hey, Luther. Don't say that.
Luther: No, the world needs a leader and I'm not it. I'm not. Dad knew it, and now I know it. I'm done.
Allison: Can I show you something?
Luther: What? What is it?
Allison: Just Just come with me. What? You got something better to do?
episode 7:
Allison: All right. Let's get this bastard.
Diego: You had me at Gerald Jenkins.
Five: Harold Jenkins.
Diego: Whatever. I've already lost two people this week, I'm not losing anyone else.
Five: And Luther?
Luther: Yeah, you go. I'm gonna stay and go through Dad's files. I still think this has something to do with why he sent me to the Moon.
Diego: Seriously? Now you wanna make the end of the world about you and Dad?
Luther: No. "Watch for threats. " That's what he told me. You think that's a coincidence? This all has to be connected somehow.
Allison: No, we should all stick together. -
Five: We don't have time for this.
Diego: Let's roll. I know where we can find this asshole. Klaus, you're with me.
Klaus: Yeah. I- I'm good. I think I'll, uh...I think I'll pass, I'm feeling a little under the weather, so, uh...
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Klaus: Luther! Luther, you need to tie me up so I can- Are you drinking? Holy sh [LAUGHING] Holy shit, you're drunk. And you busted into Dad's liquor cabinet. He's gonna be so pissed.
Luther: Get him. [SIGHS] Dad. Do it, now.
Klaus: I told you already, all right? I I can't! - [GASPS]
Luther: Little shit!
Klaus: [GROANS] [CHOKING] Please I [GROANS] [COUGHING] Jesus Christ. Luther! Of course I tried! All right? God knows, I've tried, but he is as he was in life, he's a stubborn prick!
Luther: He needs to answer to me for what he did. For sending me up there. I sacrificed everything for him, my entire life. I never left this house. I never had friends. And for what? For nothing.
Klaus: Oh, no, no, no, no. Hey, just just [SIGHS] Just relax, okay? Just Just relax. I- I could try again. I mean, I can't promise I'm clean enough. But just- Hey, come on. Hey, hey, hey, come on. That's- That's enough of that. Enough of that. Come on. Come on, come on. Chin up there, big guy.
Luther: It's okay. Just go.
Allison: Why- Why don't we find the others? I'm sure Allison could help.
Luther: I don't want her. I don't want them to see me like this. Besides, I- You know, I'd just hold them back. What they're doing is too important.
Klaus: What are you talking about? You're our Number One, remember? "O Captain! My Captain!" [CHUCKLES] - Remember? - [BOTH LAUGH] Yeah, right?
Luther: [SOBS]
Klaus: Luther.
Luther: You know, Diego was right. Dad sent me up to the Moon because he couldn't stand the sight of this. [SIGHS DEEPLY] Of what- Of what he did to me. Of what I've become.
Klaus: No, no, no. That's- That's not...it... Damn it, Dad was such an asshole right to the end. [SIGHS] You know, if if there's anything else that I can do, or
Luther: I wanna be like you. I wanna do whatever it is that you -
Klaus: No, no, no no. -
Luther: Yeah. I do. Yeah.
Klaus: You don't. No. Absolutely not.
Luther: Come on, Klaus. 'Cause you you always seem so carefree, and I just need it. I - I wanna be Number Four. -
Klaus: Trust me. Trust me. You don't want that.
Luther: I do
Klaus: You don't want that. What you need is just just lay down, sleep it off. You'll feel better in the morning. Okay?
Luther: Fine, I'll go by myself.
Klaus: What? No. No, no, no, Luther! Luther, I can't let you! Oh, shit.
episode 8:
Klaus: Wakey, wakey! [IN SINGSONG VOICE] Eggs and bakey! Oh, there's the man. Someone pulled a disappearing act last night. What mischief did you get into?
Luther: What? I didn't.
Klaus: Oh, no? Maybe I should ask her. Hello. Oh, come on, don't be so shy, big guy. You needed it! Not a lot of ladies on the Moon, I assume. And all that [INHALES DEEPLY] pressure resting on those big - hairy shoulders [CHUCKLING]
Luther: Klaus, enough.
Klaus: Wait. Was this, like Is this your No way! - [LAUGHS] Whoo! -
Luther: We are not having this discussion.
Klaus: He popped his cherry! [GASPS] Now you're gonna have to marry her!
Luther: Would you keep your voice down?
Klaus: Hey, you know, I remember my first Oh, no, I don't.
Luther: Klaus, what is it?
Klaus: What? Oh, the Uh, important family business. Meet me downstairs, okay? And, Luther No dilly-dallying, all right? Chop, chop. Here we go. This'll fix ya. Nice. Okay.
Five: Jesus. Who do I gotta kill to get a decent cup of coffee?
Luther: Can we get started?
Klaus: Anyone seen any of the others? Diego? Allison? No? All right, then, this is the closest thing to a quorum that we're gonna get. Now, listening up. There's no easy way to say this, so I'm just gonna spit it out.
Ben: This is a bad idea.
Klaus: Yeah.
Luther: Klaus.
Klaus: I conjured Dad last night.
Luther: I though you said you haven't been able to conjure anyone in years.
Klaus: Ah, yes, I know, but I'm sober. Ta-da! I got clean, yesterday, to talk to someone special, and then ended up having this conversation with dear old Daddy himself.
Luther: Has anyone got some aspirin?
Five: Top shelf, next to the crackers.
Klaus: Hey, hey, hey. This is serious, guys, all right? This really happened, I swear.
Five: Okay, fine. I'll play. What did the old man have to say?
Klaus: Well, he gave me the usual lecture about my appearance and my failures in life. Yada yada yada. No surprise there. Even the afterlife couldn't soften a hardass like Dad, right? But he did mention something about his murder, or lack thereof, because -
Ben: Wait for it.
Klaus: he killed himself.
Luther: I don't have time for your games, Klaus.
Klaus: I'm telling you the truth, Luther. I'm telling you the truth.
Five: Why'd he do it, then?
Klaus: He said it was the only way to get us all home again.
Luther: No. Dad wouldn't just kill himself.
Five: Ah, you said it yourself. He was depressed. Holed up in his office and room all day and night.
Luther: No. There weren't any signs. Suicidal people exhibit certain tendencies, strange behaviors.
Klaus: Like sending someone to the Moon for no reason?
Luther: I swear to God, Klaus, if you're lying
Klaus: I'm not. I'm not.
Pogo: Master Klaus is correct. Regretfully [SIGHS] I helped Master Hargreeves enact his plan.
Luther: What?
Pogo: So did Grace. It was a difficult choice for both of us. More difficult than you could ever know. [SIGHS] Prior to your father's death, Grace's programming was adjusted so that she was incapable of administering first aid on that fateful night.
Five: Sick bastard.
Luther: So the security tape we saw?
Pogo: It was meant to further the murder mystery. Your father hoped that being back here, solving it together would reignite your desire to be a team again.
Five: And to what end?
Pogo: To save the world, of course.
Klaus: [LAUGHS] All right.
Luther: First the Moon mission and now this. You watched me search for answers and said nothing. Anything else you want to share, Pogo? Any other damn secrets?
Five: Hey, calm down, Luther.
Luther: No, I won't calm down. We've been lied to by the one person in this family we all trusted.
Pogo: It was your father's dying wish, Master Luther. I [SIGHS] I had no choice. There's always choice.
Five: I gotta think.
Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=the-umbrella-academy-2019&episode=s01e08
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Diego: Look, Dad was wrong to lie to you. To all of us.
Luther: Look, I did my time. All right? Four years up there, watching and waiting because he said the world needed me. Four years of nothing but soy paste and processed air because I was naive enough to believe that dads don’t lie to their kids. But guess what? The joke’s on me. I’m done. With all of it. With him. With you. With this family. You wanna save the world, you go right ahead. I’m fine to sit here and finish my beer and get my buzz on.
Diego: You want to turn your back on me, the guys, that’s fine. [SIGHS] But Allison deserves better than that.
Luther: Allison? What are you talkin’ about?
Diego: Well, we got ahold of Harold Jenkins’ police file. Turns out Vanya’s boyfriend is a convicted murderer. Who would’ve saw that coming? A little hard to trust anyone who wears corduroy.
Luther: Wait, so where’s Allison now?
Diego: She decided to go after Harold Jenkins. Alone.
Luther: You should have led with that! Jesus Christ. Shit.
episode 9:
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episode 10:
Luther: Listen, we can't do this now. I'm so sorry, I should never have slept with that girl uh, woman. Uh, look I had just found out that Dad sent me to the Moon for nothing. All right? And I just felt so lost and alone. Klaus wasn't lying, I got drunk. I mean really drunk. Plus the pills. You know, 'cause it was a rave, and I'd never been to a rave before, and Well, they're they're pretty amazing, actually-
*Allison writes down that she needs his help and they go to a phonebooth outside.*
Luther: He- Hello? Hi, uh, Claire? Uh, yeah, this is your Uncle Luther.
Clair: Spaceboy!
Luther: Yeah, yeah, uh Spaceboy. I'm the one your mom told you stories about. Yeah, yeah, I know all about you, too. And you know, Claire, I've been wanting to meet you since the day you were born. Uh, well, uh she's here, with me now, and she really wants to talk to you, Claire. But- But she can't, because uh she has a sore throat, but, uh Your mom wants me to tell you, Claire, uh, she- she says that she loves you... more than anything in the whole wide world. And she - No! Oh, shoot. Um Where Um Wait, wait. Hey. Hey. Uh, your mom says... She says "I miss you. I miss you every day that I'm not with you. I know that I let you down, but I would do anything for you. You make me wanna wake up each day. And you're in my dreams every night. You're the most important person in the world to me. " That's, uh That's what your mom says. Yeah. Yeah, I- I promise. She'll be home soon.
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A Murder at the End of the World
“Chapter 7: Retreat”
Director: Zal Batmanglij
DoP: Charlotte Bruus Christensen
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