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televangelist666 · 10 months

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Frolicking through nature with not a care in the world, I absolutely adore taking photos in the country during summer ♡

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aroace-kodama-sakuko · 7 months

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#jughead #jughead jones #ace #big ethel energy #aro #canon aroace #aroace jughead

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genericpuff · 7 months

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Can you give us your thoughts on Big Ethel Energy? I haven’t seen anything glaringly wrong with it tbh, but I might not be educated on the topics the comic brings up.

TBF I haven't read it as extensively as LO (though that's a loaded comparison because I definitely put WAY more into analyzing LO than most webtoons LMAO) but my biggest issue with BEE is just like... the main cast (primarily made up of women) are so manipulative and toxic all the time. A lot of the comic's narrative feels very preachy while not actually practicing that empathy, very similarly to LO in which characters will just yeet out Therapy Speak or whatever have you and then use it to justify their shitty actions, rather than actually learn from them/correct them/etc.

One big example I can think of that alerted me to its issues (as many others) was the scene where Betty tears into her boss (Seth):

And he totally has a point, he acknowledges that he made a misstep but I don't think the irony of her calling him a "judgmental jerk" has been lost here because she's literally basing her judgments of him off instant reactions (and hoo boy, do a lot of the characters in this comic do that, but we'll get into that shortly).

But then there's complete tonal whiplash where they go upstairs to the roof where he reveals that he's changed his decision about working with Veronica (thus correcting the misstep that Betty was calling him out on) and Betty is just SO overjoyed by this that she-

Like, this is her boss, for starters, who she's kissing (without his consent or even any signalling that he wanted to kiss her in that moment) literally MOMENTS after she called him a "judgmental jerk". And then when he rejects her because there would be a power imbalance in their relationship that he's not comfortable with (which is a VERY reasonable boundary to set), she just ?? Goes right back to being mad at him and the story paints it as if he's at fault ??

Like they actually had the opportunity to showcase a story in which a power imbalance in the workplace ISN'T romanticized (like it is in so many webtoons like LO and Let's Play) and instead it made the boss out to be the bad guy for rejecting the advances of a female lead. And so many of the female characters in the story are like this, it's like they're trying so hard to be "strong independent women" but then they just come across as manipulative and mean all the time. Like sorry, but you can't just use "progressive language" like "mansplaining" to make your characters seem smart, Betty is being a huge asshole here over something SHE caused. It's very "woman good, man bad" with no nuance or consideration for the actions of either party.

And of course, they follow it up with Betty actually realizing she wasn't in the right, only for Veronica to come in and be like "nah you're allowed to hate who you hate" even though that kind of advice totally isn't constructive here when Seth was being completely reasonable. So Betty is literally just flip-flopping between actually caring about Seth and his boundaries to hating on him for having them at all.

Like, this is so miserable to read. Don't get me wrong, Veronica is traditionally a very "fuck you, I do what I want" character, but it just feels so gross when we know what Betty did was wrong and Betty ought to know this as well because she's usually the more reasonable foil to Veronica. It's not like it's empowering either of them the same way it would if they were fighting over Archie (as they traditionally do in Archie comics) and then mutually decided he wasn't worth destroying their friendship over, this is Betty's boss who she kept changing her opinion about based on whether or not he sided with her. It's flimsy. And they never really address Betty's behavior here going forward or use this as an opportunity for growth (at least from what I read following this, mind you I haven't kept up on the comic in a while).

To talk about the main character, Ethel, there's actually another weird scene that comes after the Betty/Veronica exchange, this is after she's started seeing Moose (though they don't have an official relationship yet) and is going over to his house for the first time.

Like, these two aren't even officially dating yet and she's already nitpicking things about him and taking his choices personally. It feels very unnecessary and vapid - and if you're someone who's read Archie comics before, it feels very out of character for someone like Ethel, who's traditionally a very sweet (albeit hopeless romantic) girl, here she just feels mean all the time.

And the comic as a whole just has a lot of these passive aggressive scenes. The internal monologuing of Ethel is insufferable because it's often just her constantly judging people or jumping to extreme conclusions. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for characters who aren't morally good, but I don't want to read a story that lives in the head of an asshole LOL

All that said, I haven't kept up on anything from BEE in a while, from what I've scrolled through of newer episodes at a glance it seems to have dialed back on some of that passive aggressiveness, but I'm gonna have to do a re-read of it at some point with the newer episodes included to form a stronger opinion. So take what I say here with grains of salt.

I just don't think it's necessarily a good example of a "strong romance series". Everything feels so petty all of the time and when it does try to act informed or mature, it's completely undercut by characters who can't practice what they preach. A lot of comics on the platform tend to stress "women supporting women" but then really it turns into "women hating men" and it's just like...?? Is that really the point of the message we're trying to get across here?

Add in the extremely stiff dialogue and text dumping and cheap art, and this just doesn't feel like something that would be made for a series like Archie of all things. The Archie franchise has really been suffering from lame melodrama and unlikeable characters as of late, I know there's only so much one can do to re-adapt a series that was from the 1940's, but it feels like it's often misinterpreting the point of the more modernized messages they're trying to preach rather than giving us an actual story with characters who learn and develop along the way. It comes across more as the Archie franchise looking for shortcuts to connect with "today's audience" by using cheap buzzwords rather than put any actual effort into the writing.

IDK, it's just a very mediocre comic with very mediocre attempts at seeming "progressive" and it feels so disingenuous. The characters never feel like they have any real integrity or development, especially with how some of them flip-flop on a dime based on whatever the creators want the audience to feel.

It's just a big ball of 'meh'.

#big ethel energy #webtoon critical #ama #ask me anything #anon ama #anon ask me anything

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bughead-in-the-comics · 3 months

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Bughead from season 2 of Big Ethel Energy (2023).

#bughead #jughead jones #betty cooper #new comics #archie webtoon #big ethel energy #bughead edit #bughead adult #bughead collections

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mari--lace · 7 months

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#jughead #jughead jones #asexual jughead #ace #big ethel energy

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moonlightfilly · 10 months

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In truly predictable fashion, Jughead hanging out with a gay man in Big Ethel Energy has caused readers to start praying for aroace erasure.... again.

I hate it here.

#and calling Jughead a volcel??? he's aroace can they stop i'm so tired #the aphobia just JUMPED OUT. like jesus once again seeing ppl value allo ships more. valuing mlm ships more when it comes to queer rep #spewing aphobic takes like 'what if he was gay all along and didn't know it?' LEAVE JUGHEAD ALONE #Big Ethel Energy #aphobia #tumblring by moonlight

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peacerisendove · 7 months

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Big Ethel Energy Season 2 Episode 29

I'm reacting strongly to what feels like literal ace/aro erasure and honestly aphobia the more I think about it. Aromantic, asexual, and or aroace people are really just getting their shit kicked in the narrative of this comic and it's upsetting.

They made the antagonist/source of conflict in Ethel's Season 1 narrative Jughead, who in Season 1 was very strongly implied to be aroace, but now they're just backtracking on both him being ace and aro.

It's so sad and frustrating to see.

Look Mr. Lodge isn't generally viewed in positive terms. He's associated with and concerned with money, self-interest, and his businesses, but the fact we're just getting judgement calls without even seeing evidence of Hiram character or what even his goal is with running for city council once again forces the reader to side with Ethel and her friends.

I love Nancy and her character, and of course when it comes to these situations you want the underdog who works hard and clearly cares about the city to win an election, but I don't think the comic takes into account that to be a contender in a political elections you need experience and resources to win. This panel might portray that it's Nancy's actions or resolve that is what might lead to her potentially losing this election, but honestly I think that it's a lack of experience and resources in which to convince people to vote for her for Mayor.

Now this? After a whole fucking season of alluding and pretty much confirming in all ways except explicitly through the words that that Jughead is asexual and/or aromantic.

It feels like a retcon or wishy-washy writing in which the author purposefully kept Jughead's sexuality and romantic identity vague (aka did not explicitly state he was asexual and/or aromantic) in order to keep him open to potential future love interests. It feels like an insult because the way Jughead is written in the first season and in particular his explanation to Ethel that he has never wanted sex and never wanted anyone romantically (the only exception to that is Trula):

(S1, Episode 58)

Yes, sexuality is fluid, but that is not what is going on in this case.

His sexuality in Season 1, which very clearly reads as Ace and/or Aro is just swept aside. The author is back tracking on their own writing and it's so frustrating and insulting to see because the Ace and Aro representation that we got with Jughead in Season 1 wasn't even remotely good or positive because he is put as Ethel's central antagonist in her personal story and narrative because he was an eighteen year old boy who has sex with Ethel in order to fully understand that he did not have any interest in sex or romantically attracted to her.

The whole first season, if you look at Ethel and Jughead's conflict, is simply the vilifying of asexuality and those who are aromantic. That's it. That is the crux of Ethel's entire conflict.

She blames all of her romance-based troubles on this one moment and one person without once looking inward. Jughead should not be held accountable or vilified because he had sex.

-SIGH- It is just so goddamn upsetting that this is the narrative that was portrayed and one along the way said or thought that anything was wrong.

And you know what? This perspective is even more upsetting and disappointing because the comic appears or tries to be inclusive as we explicitly have gay characters, trans characters, lesbian characters, disabled characters, and more who are open in their identities, but asexuality and aromanticism don't even get an explicit mention. The words "asexuality," "aromantic," or "aroace" are not once mentioned in the comic. Jughead isn't even the only character who qualifies as aromantic. Trula is written in a way that suggests she's aromantic (Season 1, Episode 48; Trula after being described to pick up guys one after the other states that relationships don't interest her), and yet asexuality and aromanticism are utilized as a source of conflict, are treated as erasable, and simply not treated with the same respect or standard as other identities are mentioned in this comic.

As I have stated it's frustrating and infuriating as a reader and especially as a reader who cares about asexuality and aromantic identities and its representation.

There was more I had to say about this episode but honestly Ethel's elitism can take a back seat as I find the topic of how BEE represents, treats, and writes about asexuality and aromanticism insulting.

#Big Ethel Energy #Dove Reads BEE #Dove Reads Big Ethel Energy

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herebythebays · 7 months

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now, by no means is Jughead (in the comics) ugly. But also. I’ve been noticing that recent Archie comic spin-offs or whatever such as Big Ethel Energy, for example, have been giving him more. I don’t know, like chiseled features? And also have been just making him not look like himself. Like I understand the long nose is unrealistic but atleast Jughead (2015) tried to execute it in a somewhat “realistic” way that also stays true to his design bc look at this comparison 😭

I get it’s also a matter of artstyle and all but. That’s just a whole different guy atp.

#archie comics #Idk I feel like I’ve been #Complaining a lot recently #jughead jones #big ethel energy #jughead (2015)#riverdale

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boybasher · 4 months

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galaxy-rose99 · 5 months

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The Archies 2023 Review

Alright, what can I say about this movie? Well, I can proudly say it’s better than CW’s Riverdale, that’s for sure.

But in all seriousness...I love this movie!

2023’s The Archies was able to capture the spirit of what the Archie comics were about. Although, the tv show, Riverdale, was the reason I started reading Archie comics in the first place. I’ve found myself more interested in the world and characters of the comics rather than the show itself.

I loved the characters, their archetypes, I loved re-reading some of the past and modern adaptations of this comic series.

When I first saw that the movie had finally come out, I had actually forgotten about it. But I don’t regret giving it a chance. The movie itself was like a dream, even with the setting being in India. The cast was able to capture the vibe of each of the characters they were portraying and so much more.

Even though, most of us may never know the triumphs and defeats of high school football. Or you just don’t care, The Archies is a heartfelt story about community, friendship, and fun musical numbers in between.

But don’t just take my word for it, I encourage you to watch this yourself and make up your own opinion about it.

I’ll see you soon,

In a little town called Riverdale.

#riverdale #archie comics #the archies #big ethel energy #betty cooper #veronica lodge #archie andrews #jughead jones #ethel muggs #netflix #dilton doiley #reggie mantle #comic books

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5-7-9 · 1 month

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i’m too terrified to know what they did to Jughead in the recent chapters after January. So uh, my hate reading can only reach so far. The aphobia took me out, peace ✌️

#big ethel energy

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comicake · 2 years

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oh wow so they acknowledge that

and still decided to be like fuck that Jughead fell in love. Whyyy??

Okay some people say that maybe this whole story is made up but it has been 42 chapters for fucks sake just give us a clear answer. Jughead is not even important in this comic. Just leave him out of this romance bullshit

#ugh I missed Jughead 2015 🫠#big ethel energy #jughead jones #jughead aroace #aroace #aromantic #asexuality

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aroace-kodama-sakuko · 6 months

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