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lordofdestructionm · 6 months
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Coincidence?
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Honestly probably yes but its funny to imagine him unknowingly sending out certain signals XD
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wolfscarr · 1 year
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Lackadaisy! Next to Mordecai I’m sure Sedgewick ‘Wick’ Sable is my favorite...also Wick n Mitzi are the bees knees!
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Look how happy he is, just blowing stuff up! He loves it!
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He’s got money! Also damn, that is a NICE car, ffff....mmm....I love me them old cars. 
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These 2! THESE 2! I LOVE WICK N MITZI TOGETHER!
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Did I mention how Wick has nice cars? Did I mention how much I love these 2 together?
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I WANT MORE OF THESE 2 TOGETHER!
All images got directly from https://lackadaisy.com/index.php
The trailer for the animated short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtnQ5cIHGHE
There! Read it and go look at the animated trailer for the short on Youtube! DO IT! If you love early 20th century aesthetic, bootlegging, hitmen and wacky shenangeins, you won’t be disappointed! 
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libbys-braincell-loss · 5 months
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me when the person i like talks about their nerdy interests overexcessively for an hour straight and i have no interest in the subject matter when hes not talking to me but its absolutely adorable when he rambles about something he knows so much about
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l0rr4 · 10 months
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Theyre reminds me of wick and mitzy may 😩😩😩💖💖
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queenynini11 · 6 months
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5 posts!
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thishazbinamistake · 4 months
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Howdy!
I am here to talk about Viv's horrible character designs.
From an animator perspective, they suck.
Here's why
1. The characters have way too much detail
For animation, more lines equal more work. You're going to be drawing them over and over, and it just creates more stress and work for the animators.
For example, I took one of the most egregious designs in HB (Beelzebub) and simplified it to be animation friendly.
(Can't send it here but I'll probably make a post about it or something.)
2. There's too much of 1 color
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH RED??
Especially since they're in a primarily red background, they don't stand out AT ALL.
Like how am I supposed to see them if they blend in to the background??
3. I have no idea what half of them are supposed to be
Charlie is based off a doll?
Alastor is based off of a deer?
Katie Killjoy is based off of a praying mantis?
Angel Dust is based off of a spider?
Beelzebub is supposed to be well... Beelzebub?
When designing characters, they need to be clear on what they're supposed to be! And no, explaining it on Twitter does not count.
4. The animation reference sheets are garbage
No wonder there's so much animation errors. There's no facial expression sheets, lip sync guide, nothing. It's just a 4 angle turnaround sheet where the character is in complex poses all the time.
If you Google Lackadaisy's animation reference sheets and then look at HB's, it's like night and day.
I'm more than willing to send some examples (along with the edit I did) if you want
So yeah, what are your thoughts?
These are all great points! I think you summed up the main problems very well, but I'll elaborate on each of them. I'm no expert at character design or animation by any means, but I'll do my best to explain my points!
First of all, like you said, the character designs are way too complicated. Anyone who knows even the slightest amount about animation knows you want to simplify and streamline your designs as much as possible to make it easier on the animators. Vivzie is way too obsessed with her Deviantart OC lookin'-ass character designs to actually do this, even though it would seriously help to make the animation process way faster and easier. Beelzebub is seriously the best (or worst?) example of this.
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I feel so bad for the poor souls who had to animate this. There are just way too many moving parts here, from her multiple arms, her wings, her markings, to her freaking lava lamp hair and tail?? It's just awful. And so many of Viv's designs suffer this problem, I could go on and on.
Like, I think it actually is a nice looking design, as a still image. Maybe not for the demon Beelzebub, but as a general furry OC, I think she's cute. But that's beside the point. I would love to see your redesign of her!
Next, the RED. So, most of the characters we see in Helluva Boss are red-skinned imps, which has been a common depiction of demons for centuries. One big problem I have is that there's little contrast in these designs. Let's look at our three main imps.
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Aside from some white and yellow highlights, they're all mostly red and black. Their color palettes aren't distinct in the slightest! And, I mean, come on. Red accessories against what's almost the exact same shade of red skin? Really? It just doesn't look good. A little contrast here and there goes a long way, like... maybe make Moxxie's bowtie blue? Or Blitz's pendant green? I don't know, anything to help each character stand out, and help give them more visual intrigue.
It doesn't help that most of the backgrounds are primarily shades of red, too. Here's a few screenshots I found that really show this problem.
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Look at all that fucking red. Like you said, there's such little color variation that the characters blend into the background. Now, to be fair, I did specifically choose these screenshots because I think they really highlight the problem, but this really is what so much of the show looks like. Granted, we do have a bit more variety in the different rings of Hell, each with their own main color, but this is still too much red, considering how much the color comprises the main characters' designs.
Next, like you said, Vivzie is really bad at making characters actually look like the things they're supposed to look like. Let's take Alastor as an example!
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Oh boy! More red and black. So, Alastor here is supposed to be a deer. What's the first physical characteristic that comes to mind when you think of a deer?
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Yeah, those big, impressive antlers! So... where are his? Oh, they're those tiny little forks on his head that are almost entirely obscured by his stupid emo hair. Like, come on! Giving him bigger antlers would have made him look so much cooler and more intimidating, and it would have been a great focal point for his design! It's such a missed opportunity. (I know he has bigger antlers in his scarier "demon" form, but you still could have made these a little more impressive.) And don't even get me started on those ears... they look more like fox ears or something. Like you said, a good design shouldn't need to be explained through supplementary material. We should be able to tell what a character is supposed to be just from looking at them!
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Another great example is Angel Dust, who, despite being a spider, lacks so many distinct features we associate with spiders! He only has six legs instead of eight, he doesn't have pedipalps or chelicerae, and he also lacks that big old spider booty, which I think is such a missed opportunity, considering he is supposed to be in the sex industry. He isn't even remotely shaped like a spider, he looks more like a fuzzy stick bug or something.
Part of me feels like Viv is too afraid to make her characters look unique, so she just goes with the same, skinny humanoid design for just about everything. It's such a shame, because I really do think she is a talented artist who can make some really interesting designs. But then again, she also gave us Beelzebub, so... maybe not.
As for the reference sheets, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough but I couldn't find any official ones for the main characters, so if you could send those my way I would appreciate it! Though it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they were bad. I did look up Lackadaisy's and found them pretty easily and...
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This is so freaking comprehensive and detailed, it's incredible! Look at all those poses and facial expressions!
Comparing Vivzie's works to Tracy's feels kind of unfair, since Tracy has been working on Lackadaisy for 17 years, and it really shows. This is leaps and bounds above Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel in quality. Rocky's design is tight; it's detailed, but not overly complicated. There isn't an obnoxious overuse of highly saturated colors, and there's such nice contrast between his fur, his eyes, suit, and tie, making his design very nice to look at. You can also tell so much about his personality and the world he lives in just from his appearance. It's such a good design, and Rocky is just one example from Lackadaisy! All of Tracy's designs are memorable and stand out from one another, unlike so many of Vivzie's characters, whose designs honestly feel interchangable.
So much thought and care has gone into Lackadaisy, and I seriously cannot wait for the full series, as well as all the other amazing indie animated series that have been coming out recently. It's sad that Helluva Boss is seen as the pinnacle of indie animation, when there are so many other series out there that are just.. better! Lackadaisy, obviously, but we've also got Digital Circus, Murder Drones, Monkey Wrench, and so many others that deserve way more appreciation than what Helluva Boss receives. And that's just from an art direction standpoint, we aren't even talking about writing. That's a whole other can of worms.
All of that being said, it's obvious that a ton of love and hard work went into Helluva Boss, and I hold absolutely nothing against the animators and artists at Spindlehorse. These poor design choices are a hallmark of Vivzie's art style, and they're simply working with what they've got. There is such wasted potential here because it feels like Vivzie is too afraid to step outside her comfort zone and design something that isn't a brightly colored, sharp-toothed twink, or skinny anthro wolf girl.
Anyways, that about wraps up my thoughts. Thanks for the ask, this was fun to delve into! And again, I'd be very interested in seeing you post your redesigns! 👀
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lackadaisycats · 11 months
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I know with everything going on right now you probably don't have the time to take on anything extra but is there any chance that you'd take on a commission if the funds went toward making more Lackadaisy animation? I have a special tribute I want to do in honor of my Great-Grandma who passed away this year who was born in 1923. I understand if you can't, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
I'm so sorry. My condolences on the loss of your great-grandmother. What an immense amount of history and change she must have been witness to in her century-long life.
I am presently up to my eyeballs in work. Trying to get some kind of animation production engine built and running - even a humbly sized one - is, well, it's a lot. I'm physically and mentally at my limit just now. If and when I am able to return to something of my more usual schedule (which includes doing occasional commissions and custom art for Patrons) I'll certainly speak up about it, though! Thank you so much for your interest, though - I'm honored to be asked. And what a lovely gesture on your part, to pay tribute to your great-grandma.
If you're open to other artists potentially taking on the assignment, DM me your contact info. We have a little job-postings section on the Lackadaisy work server for any of the crew looking for more freelance work. There are some wonderful illustrators on the team.
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chaifootsteps · 3 months
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"Under a pay per second system, the more an animator produces the more money they make. It's rather elegant as it rewards more skilled animators with better compensation and motivates them to work harder thus ensuring production moves at a steady pace. A salary system doesn't have that advantage. Regardless of output, everyone would be paid relatively the same which means there's less incentive to go above and beyond and instead do the bare minimum in terms of efficiency." [emphasis mine]
it's kind of disturbing to see someone make this argument. they're essentially admitting that they think animators do not deserve equal pay or a steady salary. Instead they need the fear of God about earning a living wage being put into them so that they will crunch - or rather, 'go above and beyond', there's a classic capitalist euphemism if ever I saw one - in order to put out as much as possible. (also it ignores that not all shots are the same - more complex shots take more time, but I don't see them suggesting more complex shots should be paid more per second completed?)
Does it not occur to these types that having a steady pay rate produces less stressed workers? And less stressed workers can be relied upon to (in their words) go above and beyond anyway, maybe because people also like fulfillment in their jobs?? That there's no reason to believe they'll do 'the bare minimum' because the employment process exists for the purposes of finding animators who will put their heart into their work?
Back on the pilot someone made a whole video about how they added in a little joke about Freckle being tired after dragging the coffin, because they trusted the studio to reward them for adding a little flavor to their shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ZDGNRDZN4
Do these people making 'animators need the whip cracking and only care about money' type arguments not realize that a lot of people actually care about their work, and a job well done? And having stable pay actually helps them do more of it, not less? And there are studies showing this exact phenomena across other disciplines??
Sorry to get heated, it just baffles me seeing this kind of pro-crunch pro-capitalist nonsense being peddled. Maybe they're young, maybe they're acting in bad faith. But anyone else who sees this kind of post should know that Lackadaisy fighting to make better standards for animators in indie studios is what we should expect everywhere, including production studios who already have the budget to do better. But it's so noticeable they're trying to staple onto Lackadaisy the attitude that, according to employees, ruined the indie atmosphere at Spindle - the underlying assumption and attitude of that post is that the art and end product matter more than the people
And that needs to change
No, no apologies for getting heated, that one gave me a bumper crop of the creeps. It's the kind of thing you'd expect to hear from a 19th century coal baron, or the manager of an Amazon fulfillment warehouse.
Kudos to Lackadaisy for being the change they want to see in the world.
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Accepted Shorts List
This list will be updated as shorts are selected, and will become a masterdoc for entries.
Piper, dir. Alan Barillaro (Available on Disney+)
Dissolve, dir. Carina Heller
Sharp Teeth, dir. David James Armsby
Tar Boy, dir. James Lee
Moses of Prosthesis, dir. Gagame
Quasi at the Quackadero, dir. Sally Cruikshank
Welcome to Hell, dir. Erica Wester
Friendly Shadow, dir. David James Armsby
The Acorn Princess, dir. Kris Yim
Drawn to You, dir. Eleanor Davitt
Scattershot, dir. Jade Smania
Ramshackle, dir. Zi Chen
Paperman, dir. John Kahrs (Available on Disney+, Amazon, iTunes, Google Play)
Loop, dir. Erica Milsom (Available on Disney+)
Jinxy Jenkins & Lucky Lou, dir. Michael Bidinger and Michelle Kwon
Kitbull, dir. Rosana Sullivan
Out, dir. Steven Clay Hunter
In a Heartbeat, dir. Beth David and Esteban Bravo
Ice Merchants, dir. João Gonzalez
Diamond Jack, dir. Rachel Kim
Lackadaisy (Pilot), dir. Fable Siegel
The Cat Came Back, dir. Cordell Barker
Fuelled, dir. Michelle Hao and Fawn Chan
The Man Who Planted Trees, dir. Frédéric Back
My Friends Take the Night Bus, dir. Sofi
Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers, dir. Nick Park
The Naked King -What a Beautiful Life-, dir. rapparu
Coming Out, dir. Cressa Maeve Beer
Dear Girl, dir. Choi Ji-eun
Jibaro, dir. Alberto Mielgo (Available on Netflix, Love Death + Robots S3E9)
The Witness, dir. Alberto Mielgo (Available on Netflix, Love Death + Robots S1E3)
The Legend of Pipi, dir. Julia Schoel and Birgit Uhlig
The Cameraman's Revenge, dir. Wladyslaw Starewicz
What's Opera, Doc? dir. Chuck Jones
The Dover Boys at Pimento University; or, The Rivals of Roquefort Hall, dir. Chuck Jones
Kitty Kornered, dir. Bob Clampett
A Wild Hare, dir. Tex Avery
Everything Will Be OK, dir. Don Hertzfeldt
Yankee Doodle Daffy, dir. Friz Freleng
Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century, dir. Chuck Jones
Long Gone Gulch, dir. Tara Billenger and Zach Bellissimo
I Love to Singa, dir. Tex Avery
Opal, dir. Jack Stauber
Scaredy Cat, dir. Chuck Jones
I Should Leave This Mall I Think, dir. Noodle
Porky's Duck Hunt, dir. Tex Avery
Bambi Meets Godzilla, dir. Marv Newland
Porky in Wackyland, dir. Bob Clampett
Rabbit Seasoning, dir. Chuck Jones
One Froggy Evening, dir. Chuck Jones
Don vs. Raph, dir. Jhonen Vasquez
Cat City, dir. Victoria Vincent
Roller Coaster Rabbit, dir. Rob Minkoff
Tummy Trouble, dir. Rob Minkoff
Trail Mix-Up, dir. Barry Cook
Blood Bound, dir. Lyly Hoang
Ciao, Alberto, dir. McKenna Harris (Available on Disney+)
Blackfly, dir. Christopher Hinton
Charlie the Unicorn: The Grand Finale, dir. Jason Steele
Free Apple, dir. Ian Worthington
Bigtop Burger Season 1, dir. Ian Worthington
There's a Man in the Woods, dir. Jacob Streilein
Llamas with Hats: The Series, dir. Jason Steele
Welcome to my Life, dir. Elizabeth Ito
Duck Amuck, dir. Chuck Jones
We Can't Live Without Cosmos, dir. Konstantin Bronzit
Geri's Game, dir. Jan Pinkava
Have to change the format cause tumblr has a limit to text in a single list
68. Snow-White, dir. Dave Fleischer
69. DAICON IV Opening Animation, dir. Hiroyuki Yamaga
70. Rooty Toot Toot, dir. John Hubley
71. SHOP: A Pop Opera, dir. Jack Stauber
72. Rabbit of Seville, dir. Chuck Jones
73. The Cat Concerto, dir. Joseph Barbera and William Hanna
74. My Little Goat, dir. Tomoki Misato
75. Asparagus, dir. Suzan Pitt (Available on the Criterion Channel)
76. Puparia, dir. Shingo Tamagawa
77. The Cybernetic Grandma, dir. Jiří Trnka
78. Captain Yajima, dir. Ian Worthington
79. Agoraphobia, dir. Victoria Vincent
80. Donald in Mathmagic Land, dir. Hamilton Luske, Wolfgang Reitherman, Les Clark and Joshua Meador
81. Joy Street, dir. Suzan Pitt (Available on the Criterion Channel)
82. The Old Man and The Sea, dir. Aleksandr Petrov
83. The Dream of a Ridiculous Man, dir. Aleksandr Petrov
84. Vincent, dir. Tim Burton
85. World of Tomorrow, dir. Don Hertzfeldt
86. World of Tomorrow Episode 2: The Burden of Other People's Thoughts, dir. Don Hertzfeldt (pay per view of Vimeo)
87. The Magic Portal, dir. Lindsay Fleay
88. The Golden Chain, dir. Adebukola Bodunrin and Ezra Claytan Daniels (available on the Criterion Channel)
89. Black Soul, dir. Martine Chartrand
90. Hedgehog in the Fog, dir. Yuri Norstein
91. Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: The Flying House, dir. Windsor McCay
92. Around is Around, dir. Evelyn Lambart and Norman McLaren
93. Popeye the Sailor Meets Sinbad the Sailor, dir. Dave Fleischer
94. Historia Naturae (Suita), dir. Jan Svankmajer
95. Still Lost I Guess, Here's a Tunnel, dir. Dario Alva
96. Kapaemahu, dir. Joe Wilson, Dean Hamer and Hinaleimoana Wong-Kalu
97. Long-Haired Hare, dir. Chuck Jones
98. Muto, dir. Blu
99. Windy Day, dir. John and Faith Hubley
100. Bully for Bugs, dir. Chuck Jones
101. The Haunted Hotel, dir. J. Stuart Blackton
102. Destino, dir. Dominique Monfery (Available on Disney+)
103. Fantasy, dir. Vince Collins
104. To Beep or Not To Beep, dir. Chuck Jones
105. Pixillation, dir. Lillian Schwartz
106. Goodbye Jerome!, dir. Chloé Farr, Gabrielle Selnet and Adam Sillard (Available on the Criterion Channel)
107. Betty Boop's Halloween Party, dir. Dave Fleischer
108. Jumping, dir. Osamu Tezuka
109. Baby Fingers, dir. Adrian Dalen
110. On Your Mark, dir. Hayao Miyazaki
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Hii! It's me again! I just wanted to let you know that later today or tomorrow, you can expect some more Ethel sketches!
I also wanted to ask, do you have an oc? if yes, what's its name? how are they/what they are like? and most importantly: pic lf the oc???
I need something to draw and I was wondering if I could do a fanart of your lackadaisy oc??^^
Oh thats so sweet of you 😩. I cannot draw, i do have a detailed description of her.
But ahhhh you're so sweet for wanting to draw her
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|| Brooke “Snowflake” Arbogast ||
Appearance:
Brooke is a striking anthropomorphic cat with pure white fur that stands out in the smoky speakeasy atmosphere. Her eyes are a soft shade of pale blue, and she carries herself with an air of elegance.
She wears a pearl necklace that has been passed down through generations in her family, a symbol of their wealth and status.
Background:
Brooke hails from the prestigious Arbogast family, known for their vast wealth and influence. They made their fortune in shipping and trade during the early 20th century.
The Arbogasts own a sprawling mansion on the outskirts of St. Louis, complete with manicured gardens, a private library, and a collection of rare artifacts.
Personality:
Despite her privileged upbringing, Brooke is remarkably down-to-earth. She possesses a gentle and kind-hearted nature, always looking out for others.
Her sweet disposition makes her a favorite among the Lackadaisy staff, who affectionately call her “Snowflake” due to her white fur.
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voidpunk-kenku · 4 months
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Took a long second to draw out some characters of people that’ve inspired me, and then my comic characters in their worlds. Going to post it on my webcomic’s blog because i am talking about comics!
First one is Raptormaniacs by @albertonykus . I used to read these a bunch when i was little and a bullied autistic child, and I probably wouldnt have my sense of humour or interest in strange interesting things(including paleo-stuff!) without raptormaniacs. Also, i got to meet Mx. Tonykus at svp about a year ago and he said a nice sentence about me on the raptormaniacs blog! Really nice experience
Next is @lackadaisycats. If you are ever writing a early 20th century furry webcomic(i am!) you will hear about lackadaisy. People will tell you. And you will be delighted to read something with such nice art and well thought out characters! I learned about lackadaisy later in life then the other two comics, but i am so happy i know of it now!
The last is Ethan Kocak. Similar with raptormanaics, i read his The Black Mudpuppy when i was bullied and little. Also Chile and Yi, and Tetzoo Time. TBM was really important to me at the time, and still is today(same with raptormaniacs!) i am really happy it exists. I drew pre-reboot TBM as his wacky cartoon form is very appealing to me
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lordofdestructionm · 8 months
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"Some men be like the eye of a hurricane. All 'round 'em, there be debris an' wild winds churning up muck, never no end t'it except in th'centre with 'em. I only 'ope you know what year doin', makin' that one yer problem, Atlas."
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This looks like the beginning of something GREAT!
@lil-zlatko @red-deer-apologist @sodeadlikeburnttoast @back-at-it-again-bish​ @that-birdy-chick @lackingdaisies @akirrakirra @koko2unite @weaver-z @sedgewick-gayble
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wolfscarr · 1 year
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Ahhh! Lackadaisy!
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUU!
So I hadn’t really been talking about this, mainly because I kinda just forgot about it after looking into it years back. But seeing the trailer, I almost cried because it looks so damn good!
Plus I always dig ANYTHING resembling the early 20th century era, the style from the cars and clothing to actual gangsters, the dialogue, music and so on. I just....love that timeframe.
Anyway I just had to post about it finally, oh and of course like many I’m sure. I love me some Mordecai Heller!
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tedturneriscrazy · 1 year
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I have officially started reading Lackadaisy. Three thoughts to start:
Rocky being tied to a railroad track with a rabid pig carcass, followed by him going back to firebomb the pig farm, is a hell of a start to a series
Freckle is cute enough that I can forgive him trying to become a cop
That Mississippi poem is just as incredible in print as it is in animation. The fact Tracy Butler wrote that herself, and not a notable 19th/early 20th century author/poet is amazing
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ms-cartoon · 1 year
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Who else has seen the Lackadaisy pilot???? I have and it was AMAZING!!! I felt like I've been waiting for centuries for the film to be made and it certainly paid off, cuz MY GOD!! The animation is beautiful!! I got this done last night before the film came out. I think I need to work on Louise's head shape a little bit for that second reference I drew. I was kinda just winging it when drawing. For now, I'll consider it a concept art design. Aside from that, I like how it turned out. I feel like her design is complete! Also, if you haven’t seen Lackadaisy, YOU MUST! Made by @lackadaisycats and the Lackacrew themselves
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queenynini11 · 6 months
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If it's important enough for ur future you can do it❤️❤️❤️❤️
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