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#actually low empathy
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Shoutout to people who are struggling or have struggled with homicidal thoughts and/or urges. It’s hard. And there are very few people it feels safe to talk to.
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redtail-lol · 4 months
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Accepting people with low or no empathy means also accepting some of the things that can cause and not viewing them as moral deficits, so I'm giving shoutouts
Shoutout to people who can't predict how their actions will make others feel, who end up doing things that seem mean or inconsiderate because they didn't have a good prediction for how others would react
Shoutout to people who don't pick up on the hints or signs that someone is feeling upset or bored or wants something, who end up being seen as inconsiderate or uncaring because they just didn't know
Shoutout to people who end up being tonally "inappropriate" or "insensitive" because they didn't properly interpret or even realize at all how the people around them felt
Shoutout to people who can't put themselves into the mindset or worldview of someone else, and for those reasons, can't really figure out why something makes them feel a certain way when you yourself wouldn't feel that way under the same circumstances
And fuck it
Shout out to low/no empathy people who DO end up doing things that are inconsiderate or hurt other people's feelings because their lack of empathy made it hard to realize that it would be unkind. Shoutout to those people who are trying to learn ways to be more considerate of and kind to others and their feelings, and shoutout to those people who still make mistakes in trying to do that because they are missing a brain function that makes it easier to think of those things and accurately know how you'll make others feel.
It doesn't reflect on your morality to have low empathy, or even no empathy, even when it causes mistakes. We are humans and most of us are disabled. Lacking empathy is a part of that disability, and instead of seeing ourselves as either cruel people who don't care to do good, or as perfect people who never have any issues with lacking empathy ever, we should acknowledge that it can cause difficulties in interpersonal relationships, and we deserve to be forgiven for those difficulties.
Tagged with various disabilities that can cause low or no empathy. Sorry if I leave anyone out!
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lesbian-honey-lemon · 3 months
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Autism advocacy YouTubers are cool and all but honestly I find it hard to listen or care about most of them. Like sure, they’re probably very helpful to lots of people in the community, but also NONE of them seem to be able to talk about autistics who aren’t high masking high empathy and low support needs.
They keep going on and on about the social model of disability, that autism isn’t inherently a disability, which is literally SO insulting to medium and high support needs autistics whose lives are severely impacted by autism. Or they’ll talk about how it’s just neurotypicals who don’t understand us when part of AUTISM is not being able to communicate well with ANYONE, other autistics included! We’re not some mythical species, we’re disabled humans with a developmental and communication disability.
Also when it comes to low support needs autistics, they only EVER talk about masking and high empathy and all that. What about the LSN autistics who don’t mask well or can’t mask, what about the hell they go through because no matter how hard they try they can’t fake being neurotypical well enough. What about the low empathy LSN autistics, what about their struggles and how they’re treated as lesser humans for not feeling other people’s emotions. What about the LSN autistics who are still impacted in negative ways by their autism, who don’t see their autism as entirely positive, who see it (correctly) as a disability and not a ‘difference’.
They never talk about any autistics outside of the narrow cutesy and palatable worldview they put online. The world outside of plushies and hyperempathy and memes and beige food and shit like that which while great for some lighthearted content still does nothing for the many, many autistics who aren’t like that. It still does nothing but represent the small percentage of autistics who exactly fit that type of autism in a cutesy, internet-friendly way while leaving the rest of us ‘bad, stereotypical autistics’ to rot.
I want a low empathy low masking autism advocacy YouTuber who maybe knows what it’s like to go through my type of autism. Or a MSN/HSN advocate with a whole different take on autism than what’s being spread online by LSNs. Sadly we’re not cutesy and nice enough for the online world..
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thatcontrolfangirl · 6 months
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Sorry had to delete the poll- round two of autism stereotype polls!
Just a reminder that low empathy does not equal bad person, people with personality disorders are not inherently abusive, and self-proclaimed “empaths” can fuck off
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worms-in-my-brain · 3 months
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Btw this is how somebody might think compassionately without affective empathy.
Person A is upset because their didn’t get a job they wanted
When that happened to me I was also upset (*some might not remember exactly what they felt like but often people cognitively know they were upset*)
I do not feel what this person feels. I do not feel emotionally impacted by them though they are crying. However, I know from past experience that this is something that is upsetting. Even though I feel nothing for this person, I have a personal value that suffering should be eliminated, so I am going to do something to try to inact that value.
This process can be complicated by stuff. Ex. poor emotional regulation, maladaptive world schemas, etc. But with treatment (and sometimes without) this is possible.
Think before you say something about people with low empathy. Empathy is not the only lens through which to see the world.
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ps1demodisk · 3 months
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Sorry I'm not low empathy autistic in the "mysterious loner boy who secretly cares about his friends and talks in a monotone voice" way and I'm actually just completely indifferent to the suffering of people I don't know personally and help strangers out of a sense of "this is the right thing to do" and not "I feel so bad for this person" or guilt.
I sit and listen to my friends even though I don't really care about hearing about their problems because I know they'll be upset if I don't, and despite the fact I honestly can't genuinely care about the issue itself, I care about the impact it's having on my friends and that's enough to make me want to help them through it.
Did you know that's actually an expression of empathy all of its own?
It will absolutely happen again I literally am not even sorry
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frogsforthefrogwar · 1 year
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We love people with low and no empathy here!
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I don't know where this "if you don't feel love/empathy you're evil" idea comes from like if you can only be decent towards people if you love them/feel empathy towards them then I'm pretty sure I'm not the one mistreating more people of the two of us
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If you say empathy makes one human then fuck it I’m not human. Why do I have to be human anyway, I honestly don’t see what’s so great about it
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redtail-lol · 5 months
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Maybe I have a fondness for pwNPD and other cluster B personality disorders because I'm low empathy
They get shit for being unempathetic, and it feels like an attack on me too. People assume they're evil and hurt people because they lack empathy and that assumption applies to me too. They're are like me, and they know we both deserve to be treated with kindness for a symptom we can't control.
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lesbian-honey-lemon · 29 days
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HAPPY AUTISM MONTH!!!!
We gotta be LOUD and PROUD this month!
Especially us low/no masking autistics- we are not lesser humans because we are obviously “weird” or obviously disabled!
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thatcontrolfangirl · 6 months
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I kinda wanna talk about my empathy situation because I think it’s a bit unique to my specific autism.
I have slightly low cognitive empathy and even lower affective empathy. I don’t feel the emotions of others unless they are extremely close to me and I know them very well. This never changes for me no matter the situation. I can, however, sometimes understand the emotions of people I know because I have a little cognitive empathy. I can’t often put myself in someone’s shoes but I understand emotions enough to understand why someone might be sad, or angry, or happy.
Example: a friend is crying because their dog died. I don’t know this dog, this is not a sad occasion for me personally. I don’t cry or get sad, in fact this event might be annoying for a split second because it ruins whatever I was going to do with the friend. However this feeling isn’t permanent and usually passes quickly. However, I can understand that my friend is sad because their dog died and might need a friend to listen to them. I will still be BAD at comforting them because I cannot fix the problem and autism makes communication in general hard. Either way, I end up at least trying to comfort my friend. The end goal is the same, I just skip the step of getting emotional because my brain doesn’t work like that.
Honestly I don’t understand empathy at all. I get cognitive empathy, understanding someone’s emotions is useful. Affective empathy, or, feeling someone else’s emotions, though, is a mystery to me. Isn’t it harder to do things when you’re getting emotional over someone else? Hyperempaths/ normal empathy ppl please fill me in.
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worms-in-my-brain · 6 months
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Just a reminder that ableism against personality disorders, especially cluster b personality disorder, is alive and well.
Not having empathy doesn’t make someone evil. It doesn’t make them an abuser. In fact, people without empathy are better in certain vital positions. We’re better at being first responders, 911 operators, and other tasks that would overwhelm empaths. We work better in critical situations than empaths do.
Thinking that any disorder makes someone evil is ableist. And when you take into account the sexist bias in diagnosing women with BPD and the racist and classist bias in diagnosing POC and prison inmates with ASPD and NPD? It’s not only ableist, it’s all kinds of -ists. Plus, it’s really rich for someone who claims that empathy is what makes someone good to have so little empathy for people with disorders that are literally trauma-based.
So yeah if you see someone being a dick to people with PDs? Say something. Because they’re definitely not going to listen to us.
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"mental health matters" mf when my disorder makes me genuinely act like a bad person with no desire to become better whatsoever
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solreefs · 10 months
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“the way autistic people express empathy can seem strange to others, and they might be incorrectly seen as unempathetic when in reality, the problem is miscommunication” AND “many autistic people have low or no empathy, and talking about this does not promote stereotypes or make us bad people” can and should coexist.
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siren--squid · 10 months
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Anyways, support people with low/no empathy, sympathy, and/or compassion.
Those things are not required to be a good person, and nobody should feel like those things are a requirement in life.
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