#all byler gates

[byler-prompts]

BYLER PROMPT MASTERPOST

Welcome to Byler prompt masterpost, where all readers and writers are in for a treat! There will be more of my original byler fanfic ideas added to this post as it goes on, and if I see any of this prompts taken, I’ll link the fic and update this immediately! Stay tunes for more Byler prompts accompanied by Byler fics!!! OwO

New Byler Prompts every week!

Enjoy, Bylers!!

PROMPTS✍️

Will’s Birthday - Vecna’s Other Curse

Meet Me After Midnight - Byler Cinderella!AU

Call Me Cute, Call Me Yours! - Mike’s Self Discovery

I WANNA BE SAAAAAAAVED!!! - Byler Superman!AU

Remember. - twelvegate Will

The First Babygirl - Babygirl Duo Fic

Miraculous Cleric - Byler Ladybug!AU

The Party ™ - IT!AU

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ALREADY WRITTEN!!!📖

I Held Your Face In My Hands, Babygirl - UsErHeReOrIgInAl

The Miraculous Byler AU. - UsErHeReOrIgInAl

#byler fic ideas #mike wheeler is babygirl #buff byers #the babygirlification of mike wheeler #byler #byler endgame #flirty will #flustered gay disaster mike #gay mike truther #byler prompts #birthdaygate #babygirlgate #flickergate #all byler gates #will byers has powers #you’re the heart babygirl #fluff #angst #hurt with comfort #hurt with no comfort #all of the above #jealous mike #mike likes them muscles #horror #AUs lots of AUs #artist will and writer mike #internalized homophobia #insert more tags here #yosh yosh

[sympatheticfiend]

“vecna gets will” “vecna gets mike” “vecna gets lucas” vecna gets his ass handed to him. will gets cursed only for vecna to realise that he just summoned a feral 15 y/o into his home and now vecna doesn’t have will.

will has vecna

#pinning this for a friend dw abt it <3 #i just think will deserves to beat the shit out of an abuser #make him claim his own power and get henry’s ass #i don’t even mean this is the big finale plan i mean this just happens when you set will lose in the upside down #he’s floating midair one moment next thing the others know all the gates are closing and the upside down is burning down #will just dropping down like ‘well that’s one less thing to worry abt’ #will byers #stranger things #lucas sinclair #mike wheeler #byler #eleven #el hopper #stranger things 4 #vecna #henry creel

[qulizalfos]

thing: happens

byler tag:

(have no recollection of making this btw)

#byler #im not fuckin listing all the gates but u get it

[emblazons]

"I think they’ll be really pleased…but also shocked." ⤷ Noah Schnapp (about Will's Final Season) to Vogue

Day Three of @bylerweek2023 (part i) - Byler!Gates aka Flickergate / "Will has Powers" Theory

#byler #will byers #mike wheeler #will byers core #flickergate #bylerweek2023 #I KNOW ITS HIS BIRTHDAY. THAT'S ANOTHER POST LMAOOO #also I will have the people know that (as someone who does not do 'gates' as a whole) #this was a hard ass prompt to fill! #the electricity + will having some kind of creative power does make the most sense of all the theories I've seen tho #which...is why we're here lol #stranger things #my gifs #the me tag

[biigiiiii]

So this:

Leads to this:

Which leads to this:

Which allows vecna to do this:

Right? Right………. So then this:

Leads to this:

Which leads to:

???????????????? 👀👀👀👀👀

Will has had powers.

#will has powers #no - he had powers. he probably displayed them when he got taken in to the upside down. and vecna wanted those powers. so he took them. #this also opens up to the possibility he could get them back somehow. with el it was through memories of her mom when she was born. love. #when she relived her younger self opening the gate for the first time through the power of love #so Will could get his back through strong feelings of love. just saying. #stranger things predictions #stranger things theories #byler #byler tumblr #so the cool kids can find this 😌 #I HAVE ANOTHER THING TO SAY!!! Els powers are strong from negative emotions - hatred. anger. vengeance. #but they’re even more powerful from feelings of love - familial and platonic love (mama. hopper. max. etc) #so if Will did show his powers to vecna (accidentally) when he got taken then those would have been from his most common negative emotion #fear #El is anger. hatred. will is fear. anxiety. #so will will get his powers to their fullest strength only with Love. romantic love. feeling wanted. useful. #familial/friend love was something El needed in her life and she against all odds managed to find it #she got the love she desperately needed and deserved (not romantic like the Melvin’s seem to think) #will has all that in buckets. he has friends who love him. the best mom and brother anyone could wish for. but he feels unworthy of love. #feels like all the bad things that happened to him were deserved. so him receiving and accepting what he desperately needs and deserves #will fully unlock his powers - if he has them. #thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[chirpsythismorning]

3 bands/musicians mentioned in this new Netflix description for Stranger Things.

The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go

Iconic. Played a huge role in s1-2 and will likely make a return in the final season.

Kate Bush - Running Up that Hill (A Deal With God)

Legendary. Played a huge role in s4 and is arguably one of the few tracks to be in the same league as Should I Stay or Should I Go (which is really saying something).

Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time

Umm. Played once in the series, during the snowball. Never again since. Out of ALL the artists they could've picked to mention from the Stranger Things soundtrack (Metallica, Journey? TOTO? THE POLICE??? EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE WAS LITERALLY USED IN S2 AND S4??), and yet they chose an artist, whose only had one song play on the show, all the way back in s2?

#stranger things #time after time #byler #time after time gate #idk time after time lyrics are really hmmmmm interesting ngl #they support a lot of gates that's all i'm saying #even blue meets yellow in the west like literally with the minute/hour hand references #anyways time after time coming back in s5 truthers unite

[nonsensical-ramblings]

The Stranger Things OST is something we haven't been paying nearly enough attention to, because I think I've just found something monumental.

We all know these two scenes feature the same music:

But what we haven't been talking about is how the tracks in these four scenes all share the exact same melody-

Or that the tracks from these two scenes sync up perfectly to create an entirely new piece of music

But what if I told you this is only the very tip of the iceberg, because I've been sifting through evidence for quite a while now, and we are far past the point of this all just being a coincidence?

ahem.

Welcome to Soundtrackgate.

(AKA: The wild, wacky world where connections go way, way deeper than you could've possibly imagined, and it all still manages to lead back to byler in the end)

So, just by themselves, those three instances of matching soundtracks creating parallels between different scenes are pretty cool, and worthy of analysis. That's all well and good. But it gets a whole lot more complicated when I tell you that across those three examples, all the songs from those eight scenes I've pointed out match with each other too. The music playing during the J/ancy kiss syncs with the music from the R/ockie scene at the gun shop. The M/ileven kiss has music that syncs with the "It was a seven" scene. R/ockie making sandwiches has music in the background that syncs with the Byler van scene. They're all in the same key, B flat major.

I can prove that I'm not making this up in the form of some amazing mashups between four important OST songs. But before I show you those, let me take a step back and introduce you to the songs individually: Being Different, The First Lie, The First I love You, and Kids.

(I slowed them down so they're all the same speed). And I thought to myself, golly, these all sound pretty similar, they all have a pretty consistent pattern of eight quarter notes that get repeated over and over. (Listen closely, can you hear it?) I sure bet it would sound nice if someone combined them. So. I figured out how to edit audio and I did it myself XD

When I said they synced, I wasn't kidding. When I did my initial little experiment, I was not expecting the songs to, in no uncertain terms, match up perfectly, as if they were all variations of the same track, because the only thing I'd done was change the tempo a little bit between each of them. No splicing, no extra editing, no looping, no nothing. And they sound beautiful together!!! Here are my three favorites:

Putting all four together pushes my limits a bit and it comes out a tad messy, but I love it anyways. It's overwhelmingly clear that these four songs are meant to fit together.

So... what does this mean? The tracks are undeniably connected, and some of the scenes in which they occur are clearly parallels too. I mean, we've been ENDLESSLY analyzing parallels between R/ockie, Byler, and J/ancy, and this discovery lends more credit to the theory that those aren't just coincidences. But especially for major motifs like Kids, there are a lot more scenes where these songs play!! It's not just the few I mentioned at the beginning of the post that are pretty obvious in how they're similar to one another. Haha, but wouldn't it be crazy if ALL the scenes that these songs (and their variations) appear in followed the exact same narrative pattern; a pattern which would just so happen to offer extremely compelling evidence to the fact that Byler has been endgame since season 1?

Ha ha... ha... um.

They do.

All of them.

I'm not fucking joking. Out of the 22 scenes I've been able to track down which feature any of these four songs or variations of them, I've identified a pattern which every single one follows. Some definitely better than others... but it is un-fucking-deniable that this pattern exists and it has to be deliberate, because all of this being a coincidence must be some sort of statistical impossibility with the sheer amount of evidence I've amassed.

The pattern I'm referring to is a collection of four themes:

A misassumption / some form of dishonesty

Love. Often romantic, but sometimes platonic or familial

A subversion of expectations

An atypical relationship between two people

Often in that order.

So basically, we have a collection of scenes throughout all four seasons that are very strongly linked to each other, through both the music that plays during them, and the narrative pattern they follow. And theoretically, if we now know for a fact that each of these scenes follows the same pattern, we can use it to support our interpretations of moments like the van scene or "It was a seven"! (A pattern which, I'll remind you, will fall perfectly in line with Byler endgame)

Okay. So here, we get to the main chunk of the analysis. The hard data. I've gone through every relevant scene and listed how each of them fit the pattern, to prove that it's legit, and to use it to demonstrate how this discovery supports our theories! I've also added whether I think the scene matches well (✅), moderately well (🤔) , or poorly (❌) with the interpretation. (Keep in mind that even the ones that match poorly still relate to the themes in some way!) I sorted everything by motif, then into individual music pieces, then into scenes that feature that music. So scenes that have the same track playing in the background are grouped together.

Obviously, it's pretty long. I did my best to organize it well and make it as concise as possible. But that's why I'm adding a star (⭐️) next to all the scenes that explicitly support the Byler agenda, in case you want to scroll past the rest and only focus on what you came here for!

Without further ado, let's start out with...

The First Lie motif

The dominating melody in these tracks is: D D# D A# C F A# C

Track 1: The First Lie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S5-J7BLoIY)

Scene A: Jonathan And Nancy get together (S2E6) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/Dishonesty: Both of them are denying their feelings for each other • Love: And those feelings are romantic in nature • Subversion of expectations: They discover that their feelings are requited! • Atypical Relationship: Nancy, a popular and conventionally attractive character, ends up with Jonathan, the outcast

Track 2: The First I love You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68LnSZ_j3M)

Scene A: Robin and Steve talk in the Bathroom (S4E7) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/Dishonesty: Steve believes he has a chance with Robin, Robin hasn’t told him the whole truth about her sexuality • Love: Steve has feelings for her, she has feelings for Tammy, the two of them love each other as best friends • Subversion of expectations: Robin wants to kiss girls!!! And Steve is surprised, but wholly accepts her, even as a straight guy in the 80s • Atypical Relationship: Platonic soulmates <3

⭐️ Scene B: El Tells Mike she loves him and says goodbye (S4E8) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/Dishonesty: Their relationship had been damaged by the fact that Mike lied in order to avoid seeing her / getting into trouble with Hopper • Love: El forgives Mike, says that she loves him, and tries to repair their relationship • Subversion of expectations: El admits to having heard Mike when he said that he loved her, back in episode 6 • Atypical Relationship: It wouldn’t be very atypical for a straight guy to get back with his straight girlfriend after a brief break-up, would it? So maybe this relationship isn't as hetero as it- [gunshots]

Scene C: Joyce and Hopper Kiss (S4E9) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/Dishonesty: Up until this moment they’ve been dancing around each other since season 1, not quite being honest or upfront about how they feel • Love: But now they finally have their moment and make it official! • Subversion of expectations: We’ve seen it coming for years, sure, but considering where they started, their relationship was an unlikely one • Atypical Relationship: Joyce, the high-strung, divorced, single mom, and Hopper, the troubled, divorced, adoptive dad, certainly make a unique pair together

Kids motif

The dominating melody in these tracks is: G A# F A# G A# F A#, and/or F G F D C A# C A#

Track 1: Kids (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha2OcL_0gtM)

⭐️ Scene A: The party finishes up their D&D game, “It was a seven” (S1E1) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Lucas urges Will to lie to Mike about his roll • Love: Little Will cares about his friendship with Mike too much to lie to him • Subversion of expectations: He’s honest, and admits that he only rolled a seven, even if it means he lost the campaign • Atypical relationship: Oh, you know. :)

Scene B: The kids disguise El so she can go out in public (S1E5) This scene doesn’t match very well ❌ • Misassumption/dishonesty: The kids are disguising El’s true identity so they can bring her to their school • Love: The four of them are beginning to trust one another; the boys trust El to help them find Will, they're bonding as friends • Subversion of expectations: The boys (but Mike specifically) are surprised with the degree of El's glowup • Atypical relationship: Mike thinks El is pretty, even though the rest of the party is still a little apprehensive towards her

Scene C: Mike, Lucas, and El make up after their fight in the previous episode (S1E7) This scene matches moderately well 🤔 • Misassumption/dishonesty: El had been misleading the boys to keep them away from the lab • Love: The friends are all sorry for what they did, and care too much about each other to stay mad • Subversion of expectations: They’re able to reconcile • Atypical relationship: Even after a pretty serious fight, the friends are back together again, stronger than ever

Scene D: The party finally gets to play D&D again at the end of season 1 (S1E8) This scene doesn’t match very well ❌ (But, it’s excusable because the main purpose it serves here is to parallel the first scene from episode 1- matching this narrative pattern is probably a secondary concern) • Misassumption/dishonesty: The campaign is over too soon, the kids feel like it’s not a truthful finale; there are loose ends left to be resolved in the story • Love: The friends are finally back together again, having fun, enjoying each others’ company, healing • Subversion of expectations: Will is able to defeat the monster this time • Atypical relationship: Even after everything they went through, they made it out OK and are still the best of friends

Scene E: Dustin reminds Mike to look for some change before going to the arcade (S2E1) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Mike avoids Dustin’s questions of why he’s on an unusual channel on the walkie talkie, and why he hasn’t been looking for quarters to bring to the arcade • Love: Mike is still grieving El • Subversion of expectations: He hadn’t been looking for quarters because he was busy trying to contact her • Atypical relationship: He still feels guilty for having lost her, more so than the rest of his friends. He believes she’s out there, even after a year has passed

Scene F: The kids work together to assemble Cerebro (S3E1) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: The kids don’t quite believe Dustin is being honest about actually having a girlfriend  • Love: But he does! He actually is in a relationship • Subversion of expectations: Suzie doesn’t answer • Atypical relationship: A nerdy mormon and an agnostic with no collarbone; an unlikely pair!

Track 2: Kids Two (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PydvdEdGwE)

Scene A: El and Max spy on the boys (S3E3) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: The girls are secretly spying on the guys • Love: They’re talking about their relationship troubles • Subversion of expectations: They’re doing a terrible job of trying to win El and Max back; putting all the blame on the girls, talking about how they're a "different species", all while eating chips and generally being gross • Atypical relationship: Elmax bonds over having dumb ex-boyfriends, even after their friendship's rocky start in the previous season :3

Scene B: Robin sees Vickie at Warzone (S1E8) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Robin thinks she has a chance with Vickie  • Love: She’s about to make a move and talk to her crush… • Subversion of expectations: …but Vickie has a boyfriend. • Atypical relationship: Queerness!! And the fact that Vickie gets distracted by Robin, probably has a bit of a crush on her too, even though she's currently in a relationship

Scene C: Robin & Vickie make sandwiches (S4E9) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Robin is initially fairly certain now that she DOESN’T have a chance with Vickie • Love: But unbeknownst to her, they're almost definitely endgame • Subversion of expectations: Vickie admits that she ended things with her boyfriend  • Atypical relationship: Imminent 80s Lesbians!!!!!!!!

Track 3: Teens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3JICAZAEBs)

Scene A: Suzie changes Dustin’s Latin grade (S4E1) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Suzie and Dustin are cheating his Latin grade by hacking into the school’s computer system  • Love: The two of them are still together :3 • Subversion of expectations: Suzie decides that her relationship with Dustin is worth more than being entirely morally virtuous, so she changes the grade for him • Atypical relationship: The unlikely pair of the mormon and the agnostic strike again!

Track 4: In The Closet (At Rink O Mania) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwl-HPNQFLc)

⭐️ Scene A: Mike and Will argue at the roller rink (S4E1) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Mike’s upset that Will and El haven’t been honest about the bullying • Love: Will just misses his best friend and is upset that their relationship / communication over the past year has been strained. And he’s in love. • Subversion of expectations: “We’re friends! We’re friends.”(AKA, Mike has been struggling with his feelings just as much as Will has) • Atypical relationship: Queerness!! We can be fairly certain now that they totally feel the same way about each other, even if neither will admit it.  

Scene B: …but also El hides in the closet at the roller rink (S4E1) This scene matches moderately well 🤔 • Misassumption/dishonesty: El had been hiding the fact that she was being bullied • Love: This lie has has driven a wedge even deeper between her and her boyfriend • Subversion of expectations: She decides to go confront Angela • Atypical relationship: El, the humiliated victim, decides to stand up to her bully, Angela, instead of letting her get the final word

Track 5: Home (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdcV1u6RUh4)

Scene A: Hopper takes El in (S2E3) This scene matches moderately well 🤔 • Misassumption/dishonesty: Hopper wants to give El a place to stay where she can hide from the people looking for her / Hopper discreetly puts away a box labeled “Sarah”, hinting at a more personal reason for taking her in than he lets on • Love: He cares about El like he’d care for his own daughter  • Subversion of expectations: Even though he's a supposedly hardened and lazy police chief, he cares about El enough to go through the effort of fixing up the cabin to give her a place to stay • Atypical relationship: Found family :’)

Scene B: This song also plays during the scene where Robin sees Vickie at Warzone (S4E8) This scene matches well! ✅ • [See Kids Two, scene B]

Track 6: What’s The Internet? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqx4idF4ObE)

Scene A: The Hellfire Club and Lucas’ team celebrate their victories (S4E1) This scene matches moderately well 🤔 • Misassumption/dishonesty: The basketball team and the Hellfire club both thought they were screwed • Love: Despite the looming potential for failure, everyone’s having fun and feeling included within their groups, they love their hobbies and their friends • Subversion of expectations: Both teams won their respective games despite the odds! • Atypical relationship: Lucas still hangs in the balance between the two teams, feeling unsure about which of his friend groups he should prioritize

Track 7: [Unreleased song, but the Kids motif is faintly audible towards the end]

⭐️ Scene A: El and Mike argue over Mike not being able to say “I love you” (S4E2) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/dishonesty: Mike’s refusing to acknowledge that he can’t say the words, he’s lying about how he really feels • Love: Their relationship as boyfriend/girlfriend is finally starting to show cracks, as its fundamental flaws are presented front and center • Subversion of expectations: Their relationship isn’t as perfect as we’d been led to believe • Atypical relationship: They’re on the verge of a breakup, but that's really what's best for the two of them

and finally...

Being Different Motif

The dominating melody in these tracks is: A# D F D A# D D# D, and/or A# D F A# D F A F

Track 1: Being Different (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o29YLtS_NA)

⭐️ Scene A: Mike and Will talk in the van (S4E8) This scene matches well! ✅ • Misassumption/Dishonesty: Will lies, using El’s name to hide his own feelings • Love: And those feelings are his love for Mike :’( • Subversion of expectations: It’s now overwhelmingly clear that Will is canonically gay and in love with Mike  • Atypical Relationship: Well, it doesn’t sound all that atypical for the sad gay boy to have fallen for his straight best friend (who is obviously straight because he’s in a relationship with a girl), so what if Mike- [gunshots]

Track 2: I Like Presents Too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trSjkqM0VT4) (I’m not positive about this one, but I swear I hear similarities between Being Different and this song? Especially between 1:52 - 2:05 in Being Different, and 0:38 - 1:00 in this song)

⭐️Scene A: This song also plays during the scene where El Tells Mike she loves him and says goodbye (S4E8) This scene matches well! ✅ • [See The First I love You, scene B]

Okay. And that's all of them! I hope I've made my point. The fact that every single one of these 11 songs and the 22 scenes they appear in are connected both musically and thematically cannot be a coincidence. And by simply tracing the pattern, it's pretty easy to see that these connections hint at the fact that there's something more that we're not explicitly seeing between Mike, El, and Will's relationships, which has no other explanation besides Byler endgame. Let's review- by applying what we know about the pattern to Byler and M/ileven scenes, we can infer that:

When El kisses Mike at the end of season 3, it isn't meant to be taken at face-value. There's something atypical about their relationship, and it's the fact that despite saying the words, it doesn't change the fact that neither of them are in love with each other, not romantically, even if they think they should be.

When Will tells Mike he rolled a seven and lost the battle in the first episode of season 1, it's more than just Will being a good friend. There's a deeper connection- something atypical compared to Will's relationships with his other friends, because this is Will being in love with Mike before he even understood what those feelings meant.

During their fight at Rink O Mania in season 4, they're not just arguing about Will being dishonest or Mike not staying in touch. There's something deeper under the surface that they're dancing around, unaddressed feelings on both ends, something more atypical than just two friends who drifted apart. At the root of their frustration is the fact that they both believe the other doesn't feel the same.

Mike said it himself- when he and El argue over the fact that he can't say "I love you" to her, this was a fight they can't come back from. Because it's been made clear to them that their relationship isn't romantic anymore, it's atypical in the sense that they realize this whole thing between them has just been a heteronormative charade they were pressured into, rather than something they really wanted or needed.

When Will delivers his veiled love confession in the back of the van in season 4, we're led to believe that this is him ripping off the bandaid, because Mike is supposedly happiest with El and he'll never see Will the way Will sees him. But this interpretation is incorrect, because there's something very very atypical about the way Mike stares longingly into Will's eyes, completely mesmerized, in a way that he's never looked at his own girlfriend despite allegedly being so in love with her. Mike is in love, but there's no denying anymore that the love he feels is for Will, not El.

Of course, none of these interpretations of these scenes are new or anything. But the fact that we now have solid proof that all of them are actually intentionally connected? They all share linked music and follow the same pattern?? That, I think, is revolutionary.

But of course we're not done yet.

Because as lengthy as it is, this isn't a finished analysis. Now, if you've made it this far into my mad and delusional (yet strongly supported by evidence) rantings and ravings, you're probably just as excited about this breakthrough as I am. So if you're thinking about exploring the theory yourself, I have a few suggestions on where to start, because there's a good number of things that I haven't fully looked into yet! Most notably, there are several tracks that sound like they almost fit with the ones I already identified as being part of soundtrackgate, or they have similar vibes, but just aren't similar enough to make it into the list. Some of them I've tried to mix with The First Lie, Kids, etc, but came up empty-handed. There songs are:

Journalistic Instinct

Boys and Girls

Feel Safe

First Kiss

Presumptuous

My BOOBS Hurt

A Kiss

I wouldn't remember me either

Eight Fifteen

Walkin in Hawkins (i really really really hate this song for no justifiable reason please don't make me listen to it any more than I had to this is my one exception)

This Isn't You

Blank Makes You Crazy

Weirdly enough, out of these twelve, there are exactly three tracks from each season. Does that mean anything? No clue. Odd, though.

For all you eightfifteengate truthers, I tried really, really hard to mix the track Eight Fifteen with any of the established songs... but all I got was a pretty resounding muddy mess of a failure. Which sucks, because it sounds like it should work! Unfortunately, I don't think Eight Fifteen is part of soundtrackgate. However! I did notice that it sounds very very similar to the track Presumptuous, which is interesting. Here's the best I got, for what it's worth:

If you want to take another look at these songs and try to prove me wrong, please do!! Maybe there's a pattern within them that I didn't catch. And if you ask, I'll be happy to try my hand at combining any tracks you think would work together!

Other than that, there are a few interesting little details I noticed while perusing the OST. Maybe they mean something, maybe they don't, but I thought they were worth mentioning! Feel free to investigate if any of these pique your interest:

Like I mentioned earlier, Eight Fifteen and Presumptuous both contain the same melody

Blank Makes You Crazy and I Need You to Trust Me are both songs tied to scenes where we see evidence of the stained relationship between Mike and El, and they’re both in the same key; F Major

Not Kids Anymore plays during the Byler rain fight in s3, AND when Dustin and Mike refuse to go to Lucas’ game in s4

As far as I can tell, the song Destroying The Castle only plays one time other than when Will takes a bat to Castle Byers- it also plays in S4E9 when Hopper is about to use himself as bait for the demodogs, but assures Joyce that he’ll be alright 

On The Bus almost definitely does not match with any of the other songs, but I feel like this particular track is important and worth looking into regardless, so I’m mentioning it here.

You’re The Heart does not sound similar, mix well with, or parallel Being Different, let alone ANY of the established soundtrackgate songs. I just don’t hear it, sorry.

Eulogy and Letter to Willy sound very very similar

Journalistic Instinct and Boys and Girls sound very very similar

Still Pretty, the song that plays in season 1 when Mike reassures El that she looks pretty without the wig, also plays in season 4 while they talk in the pizza shop, right before they get interrupted by Argyle.

Okay. I think that covers it, for now. Thank you so much for reading, seriously, I poured my soul into this so it means a lot!!! I hope it all made enough sense. MASSIVE shoutout to what-song.com for its list of all the songs that appear in each ST episode, in order, complete with listing what minute each song appears in, providing a 30-second sample of each song, and a description of the scene that occurs during it. It SAVED MY LIFE no joke. Also big shoutout to bilibili.tv, my platform of choice for sailing the seven seas of content of questionable legality; I used it liberally to pull up all the scenes I had to analyze lol

#babe wake up new gate just dropped #soundtrackgate #but also seriously this is a huge deal and i do not say that lightly #it's a massive breakthrough into completely new territory #and it is anything but delusional #sit down strap in because this is long #my seven byler mutuals please don't let this flop #long post #for reference i'm a slow reader and this took me about 12 minutes to read (not including the time it takes to listen to the music) #anyway we can all agree that the song playing during byler's first kiss is going to be yet another variation of these songs right? #right #byler #stranger things ost #stranger things music #kyle dixon #michael stein #byler analysis #byler music #byler theory #stranger things analysis #stranger things

[lemonycranberries]

wait... does this mean birthdaygate is real

#not even a super firm birthdaygate believer but #they did officially recognize that will's birthday is on march 22nd and kept referencing it #also replied to some people saying they'd never forget it etc #stranger things #birthdaygate #will byers #byler #<- target audience #ig?? i intrinsically connect all gate theories to byler lol but don't know if it's the same for everyone #my posts

[elkdiaries]

no but seriously how did el know who will was when she pointed at the picture in season one

#like she only would have been able to identify him given she’d seen him before. so when did she see him. #and the fact that will was the first person to be attacked after the gate was opened #vecna is targeting him and i want all the details #duffers explain neow #stranger things rewatch #stranger things 4 #stranger things #will byers #el hopper #011 #vecna #willel #byler #will byers has powers

[runninguplenorahills]

Mike not understanding that Will was talking about himself in the van scene is actually an impossible scenario because the concept on it’s own doesn’t make any sense for those two characters!!!

We know from season 2 that Mike immediately picks up on changes in Will’s behavior even when they’re really minor! Will is being quiet and while others brush it off as Will always being quiet, Mike recognizes the difference between Will’s usual quiet and his unusual quiet and he also picks up on every single one of his expressions at rink-o-mania in s4! Mike is observant of Will’s demeanor, he knows when it differs from how Will usually behaves and he is able to recognize his emotions! Will has also never lied to Mike before and so I doubt he could pull it off unnoticed! Mike is incredibly good at reading Will and together with the fact that he also knows El’s side of it all, there isn’t a single chance that Mike did not realize that Will was talking about himself in the van scene!!

And the whole van scene also makes so much more sense if you look at it from the perspective that Mike understood that Will was talking about himself:

1: Mike’s expression falls when Will says that El commissioned the painting

-> Some people say that Mike’s expression falls because he would’ve liked it better if the painting really came from Will but I don’t think that’s the truth. I think his expression falls because it immediately doesn’t make sense to him that El commissioned the painting!! He’s confused by that statement right away because Mike knows that El isn’t interested in his nerdy side!! Mike just expressed his insecurities about El always dismissing his nerdy interests [one day she’s gonna find out that I’m just some random nerd…] so why would he all of a sudden believe Will that El asked him to make a painting about dnd of all things??? Right, he wouldn’t! Mike is confused as to why Will claims that the painting is from El even though it’s painfully clear that it isn’t. So he waits for where Will is going with the conversation to make more sense of it.

2: Mike’s facial expressions throughout the whole scene

-> He looks so tender and in love and he hangs on every word Will says! He looks at Will when Will isn’t looking, he has little sparkly tears in his eyes and he’s genuinely and gently smiling. There’s so much gulping and staring and it’s just all so tender and intimate. And the intimacy was obviously between Mike and Will!! This was not about El! We as an audience know that and Mike knows that too! It wasn’t about El for him either! Mike contributed a lot to the intimacy between him and Will in this scene so this clearly was about Will for Mike! He just simply wouldn’t have been so involved and mesmerized if he thought Will was really talking about someone else. Someone who isn’t even present. And they simply wouldn’t have created such an intimate atmosphere around these two characters in this scene if this wasn’t strictly about the two of them, for both of them!

3: Mike asking for confirmation

-> Mike asks Will for confirmation: “yeah?” But when Will had told him earlier that “of course she’ll always need you, Mike.” He said “I keep telling that to myself but… I don’t believe it.” Meaning that Mike literally doesn’t believe that El needs him and why would that just suddenly change in the span of like 5 minutes? Why would Mike all of a sudden believe every word Will says about El after he just dismissed Will’s statement that El needs him?? It just doesn’t make sense. And that’s because Mike doesn’t ask Will for confirmation that this is really how El feels, Mike asks Will for confirmation that this is really how he feels. And when Will says “yes” that’s a moment of genuine happiness for Mike.

4: Why Mike didn’t comfort Will

-> @willthecleric has suggested before that Mike’s misunderstanding in this scene wasn’t about him not understanding that Will was talking about himself. It was about Mike not understanding why Will used El as a cover up!!! Mike essentially misunderstood Will’s intentions. Will was using El’s name because he recognized that what he felt for Mike was what Mike needed to hear, but he thought that it wouldn’t mean anything to Mike if it came from him! He pushed Mike closer to El. Him using El’s name was an attempt to “rip off the band aid” but Mike didn’t understand that!! For Will the van scene was the death of any chances for him and Mike, but for Mike it was the confirmation that they have a chance together! And so as @/willthecleric also pointed out, Mike thought Will was using a cover up because they weren’t alone! There were more people in the van than just the two of them so Mike thought Will was just being cautious! Will used a safe way to confess his love to Mike! Of course Mike realized that Will cried! Mike looked back at Will because he wanted to comfort him! But as he thought Will’s major priority was to be cautious, Mike was being cautious too and didn’t initiate any physical contact to not expose themselves.

The reunion scene with El also starts to make more sense now:

1: No kiss

-> The reunion was the first time Mike and El saw each other again after the van scene, so if Mike actually believed that Will was talking about El, which gave him the biggest confidence boost for his relationship…..don’t you think he would’ve kissed her upon reuniting? Don’t you think the reunion would’ve had more of a romantic undertone? Don’t you think that Mike would’ve told El right on the spot that he loves her so much and is happy that she’s safe again? I mean, it would’ve been the perfect thing to do in that emotional moment! But he didn’t. Mike didn’t kiss her or told her that he loves her. There were no romantic undertones whatsoever and the scene was more platonic: Mike rushes towards El-El is happy that he’s there-he tells her that he’s really here-they touch foreheads. It’s pretty obviously paralleled to El’s reunion with Hopper so it’s all strictly platonic behavior. This scene was Mike and El reuniting as friends! Because that’s what El has always been to him, a friend! And after the van scene Mike realizes that he doesn’t have to act like he’s in love with El. He can be happy without pretending to be straight and so he’s not pretending anymore!

2: the focus

-> If the van scene had actually pushed Mike and El closer together romantically, the focus of the reunion certainly would’ve been on them! But it wasn’t! The focus of the reunion was clearly on El and Will! They prioritized the familial connection in this scene which was used as a contrast to El and Brenner! Brenner told El that she’s his family but then there is Will [and Jonathan] who is shown to actually be El’s family!!! A part of the reunion was to show that Brenner was being manipulative by telling El that she’s his family because we clearly see those people who went above and beyond to get El safe! That’s her true family! And Mike is included in that!!

The talk at surfer boy pizza:

-> Neither El nor Mike have been initiating anything romantic because Mike knows now that he doesn’t need to anymore and El knows she doesn’t want to anymore. They just need to tell each other that. And that’s what both of them were about to do at surfer boy pizza since that was the first time they were alone since the reunion [and the van scene]. Will’s confession of love gave Mike the courage to finally approach the breakup with El. Unfortunately Argyle interrupts Mike and El before they can break up with each other and the story takes a turn.

The monologue:

-> El is fighting for her life and needs encouragement though Mike is totally overwhelmed. He doesn’t know that El doesn’t love him romantically either so since he wasn’t able to break up with her beforehand he thinks El needs the encouragement a boyfriend would give her! But he can’t. He doesn’t want to lie to her and that’s why he struggles to start talking. But then Will encourages him…..and from then on everything goes down hill! Will references their talk in the van: “Mike! Don’t stop, you’re the heart! Remember that! You’re the heart!“ and “you’re the heart” was the crucial part and core of it all! It all lead back to Will thinking Mike is the heart but now Will tells Mike to encourage El because he’s the heart to her. And all of a sudden the whole world comes crashing down on Mike because he “realizes” that he has totally misunderstood Will in the van. But instead of actually realizing Will’s true intention behind using El as a cover up, Mike thinks Will was actually genuinely talking about El! Mike “realizes” that for Will it was all about El and not about himself at all. And so Mike forces himself back into pretending. It doesn’t work as well as before though because having had a glimpse of what could’ve been impedes his ability to mask all of his emotions. Will’s selflessness broke Mike’s heart and Mike’s monologue broke Will’s. The monologue was a step in the wrong direction.

What becomes of the painting?

-> Well, it all gets a little complicated. At first Mike understood that the only lie was Will saying that it all comes from El. So Mike knew it’s how Will feels and that he loves him. But then Will pushed him to tell El that he loves her and now Mike is distraught. So now from Mike’s perspective Will didn’t lie at all because Will said it was how El feels and that’s the truth. So that’s our standpoint at the end of s4. But when Mike talks with El and breaks up with her in s5, he’ll realize that it’s not actually what El feels, but he’s is too distraught too let himself think again that it is what Will feels, so Mike will think that Will lied about everything! And so I honestly believe that the thing that will hurt Mike the most when the lie about the painting comes out, is that Will had no other choice but to lie to comfort him, because there isn’t a real life example of someone who actually needs him… because nobody does.

The whole conflict with the painting essentially feeds into Mike’s fear of being himself but also into his insecurity of being useless/worthless which makes Mike an incredibly easy target for Vecna….

#edited version #pushing the agenda that mike understood that will was talking about himself in the van #cause everything afterwards makes so much more sense if you look at it from this perspective!!!!!! #and yeah. mike is 100% getting targeted by vecna next season! #just wanted to make one post that explains it all #is this a gate? #mikeknowsgate? #paintinggate? #heartgate? #heartgate is kinda cool #and the heart is the core of the painting so heartgate is legit right? #or is paintinggate better? #i honestly like both hahaha #is this even a gate? #please help me out here hahahaha #stranger things #mike wheeler #will byers #byler is endgame #byler #byler van scene #the van scene #gay mike wheeler

[gabigirl]

Byler Tag Chaos

July 23: Heart eyes in the van scene

July 26: Talk about the “Romeo” and Romeo & Juliet milkvan parallels / Announcement that we’re getting the s4ep8 8flix script

July 27: Confirmation from the Duffers that lighting is intentional

July 29: Theories/jokes that Noah is vibrantwaters

July 30: Noah panel, “Mike LIKES El”

August 2: The writers starting ST5!

August 4: “A fair amount of subtext, yes.” -Nick, 8flix

August 5: Chaos without getting the script

August 6: Script snippet, “I hate who I am”

August 9: The script is fake

August 10: Poll on Twitter for which scene we want / Slim Jim is a Byler

August 11: Sock anon / Rumor that the Duffers confirmed blue & yellow...only for it to be fake / Van scene won the poll / More Slim Jim tweets

August 13: We hit 100k!

August 15: We got the van scene script

August 16: Fake Duffer account / The Google Doodle looked like baby Byler

August 17: Bald Mike Wheeler cult

August 18: People trapped in the Duffers’ basement / Stephanie Mike Cult

August 19: Scriptgate 2.0 & Nick hacked

August 20: Scriptgate involving 2 cast members / Frog Mike cult

August 21: Escape from the Duffers’ basement

August 22: Russian code fully cracked on Twitter

August 24: Trend with the Cristiano Ronaldo gif / Barista anon

August 25: Grid stage in the writers’ room

August 26: Mikhailgate / Final scene script released

August 27: Mikely Cyrus cult

August 28: Finn panel

August 30: Mike Bush cult / Twilight Gate

August 31: Breaking Bad gate

September 1: Spirkgate

September 2: Lumax drawing scene script released, “his/her breath catches” / Steve & Robin in the car scene script released

September 5: Sweater Byler vs. Apocalypse Byler anon

September 6: Background guy gate

September 7: Byler disease / Cucaracha Cult / Mike’s monologue back in the poll…and losing

September 9: Jonathan & Will’s talk script released

September 10: Birthdaygate resurgence / White Rabbit Gate

September 11: Descendants Gate

September 13: Stranger Writers stopping script releases after this next one / byler cake anon asking about pop tarts!

September 16: Episode 4 Byler talk script released

September 17: Mike cat memes

September 20: Flickergate / Pixalized Grid aka Gridgate

September 21: The Byers’ house being sold irl

September 23: “Byler is canon.” -Ted Wheeler / the black spot on the board is a pen holder

September 24: Stranger Things Tudum Event

September 26: Most of the character Spotify playlists deleted

September 27: Mike plagiarized Eddie’s episode 1 monologue for his monologue to El

October 4: Salt Lamp Gate

October 9: Mike Wheeler babygirlification

October 12: “Crazy shit that almost happened #…”

October 27: Mikey mouse

October 31: Bald Duffer gate

November 6: Stranger Things day / pictures of the (hopefully) endgame couples on Twitter / painting merch /Vecna VR / “The Crawl”

December 9: More Scriptgate

December 10: Noah talking about Finn on live

December 22: Santa slander

January 5: Noah came out

January 13 (Fri the 13): AO3 down

#byler #byler tumblr #byler tag chaos #daily byler updates #august in the byler tag #yes i've been keeping track #y'all are wild #scriptgate #scriptgate 2.0 #bald mike wheeler #basement gate #mikhailgate #mikely cyrus #mike bush #brbagate #spirkgate #backgroundguygate #all the gates #byler disease #mike’s monologue #cucaracha cult #birthdaygate #whiterabbitgate #stephamike wheelerpocalyspe 🍰 #descendantsgate #byler cake anon #cake anon #flickergate #gridgate #saltlampgate

[ven0moir]

.... im sorry why is mike literally siegfried from Swan Lake? the fact the freaking movie Black Swan is in the inspiration board im screaming i REALLY should make an analysis about this

SIEGFRIED DECLARED HIS LOVE FOR ODILE, UNKNOWINGLY DOOMING ODETTE (HIS TRUE LOVE) BUT GOES TO FIND ODETTE AT THE LAKE (lovers lake???? rain aka water scene????) TO CORRECT HIS MISTAKE?????? i am delusional but i am also free

#byler #im starting a freaking gate we will call it fairytalegate bc this is insane #tangled cinderella beauty and the beast swan lake GUESS WHAT THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON #aside from literally being in the dna inspo board im losing it

[stranger-chichka]

Something something about Robin cracking the russian code something something about Robin finding the way to sneak into the elevator something something about Robin finding the information about the Creels in the library something something about Robin calling Victor a grandpa murderer something something about her wearing the jacket with a keyhole on it something something her also having badge with ASK ME! written on it something something her having the necessary answers?????

#byler #robin buckley #stranger things #stranger things 4 #stranger things theory #st theory #eightfifteengate #not exactly eightfifteengate but after having checked out every 8:15 and -8:15 moment from every episode i kinda see some pattern #with all the doors and keys references i recalled these facts about robin #also in s3 we need 2 keys to close the gate #2 keys=2 peolpe=will and mike???? #i'm not sure what's with doors though #also there are plenty of water and running #AND THE WORST PART IS I DON'T HAVE TIME TO ANALYSE IT PROPERLY

[bewilderedbuck]

it's your birthday.

#bylerweek2023 #day 3 birthdaygate/byler gates #will byers #will byers moodboard #will byers edit #byler #<- target audience #birthdaygate #stranger things #stranger things moodboard #myedit #seeing all these happy birthday posts n dropping this in the middle of them all. sorry

[bylrndgm]

eight-fifteen screencaps (S1 and S2)

Premises: I'm completely unhinged (🤡) and I have time to waste, therefore, I decided to give my contribution to the whole 8:15 gate.

No, for real: in this post I will put the screencaps of what happens at 8:15 and -8:15 of each episode (probably gonna reget it halfway through it lol).

In this first post I will go through S1 and S2.

Long post -> keep reading under the cut.

Pictures on the left: 8:15

Pictures on the right: - 8:15

Season 1

Chapter one: The vanishing of Will Byers.

Chapter two: The weirdo on Maple Street

Note: at 46:51, the lights flicker.

Chapter three: Holly, jolly

Chapter four: The body

Note: at 8:15 there are the title credits playing.

Chapter five: The flea and the acrobat

Note: at 8:15 there are the title credits playing.

Chapter six: The monster

Chapter seven: The bathtub

Note: seconds prior 8:15, Karen finds out some blonde hair (that probably came off El's wig)

Chapter eight: The upside-down

THOUGHTS: What is absolutely feral about this, is that S01E01's 8:15 matches with S01E08's -8:15 -> in both cases Will is leaving (the shed/Mike's basement).

And while the 8:15s seem a little disconnected from one another, the -8:15s kinda have a recurring theme:

El is trying to escape from the bad men

Joyce is crying after the line dropped (after she heard Will breathing)

Hop leaves the library to get to the quarry where he will find the fake body

Joyce breaks her house's wall trying to reach Will, who moments prior was "in the walls"

Lucas goes away after El used his powers against him

Dustin is assaulted by Troy, who threatens him to remove his teeth. Moments later, Mike will jump off the cliff

El finds out that Barb is dead

Will goes home

They're all about "going away/dying/leaving/escaping".

Season two

Chapter one: Madmax

Chapter two: Trick or treat, freak

Chapter three: The pollywog

Chapter four: Will the wise

Chapter five: Dig dug

Chapter six: The spy

Note: The Duffer Brothers are unhinged as hell, like, what does it mean that these two 8:15s are connected? The first lie: Jonathan and Nancy don't feel anything for eachother, they're just friends, which Murray debunks. And the lie was said because there was Steve in the middle of them (aka Nancy had still to sort out her feelings).

Chapter seven: The lost sister

Chapter eight: The mind flayer

Chapter nine: The gate

Note: the poster on the image on the left, shows a woman who's being chocked by some dark, monster-like hands -> the exact same thing that will happen to Joyce later on

THOUGHTS: What I noticed, is that the 8:15s are about learning, discovering and understanding because:

Keith is discussing about acne, teaching them it's not contagious + Will is having his first "now memory" of the UD

Hop tells El why she can't go trick or treating + teches her a new word: compromise

Dustin borrows five books from the library to understand more about Dart

Self-explainatory: "do you know what this word means?"

Jonathan had just learnt from Nancy that she waited him a month before getting back with Steve

Murray understands Jonathan and Nancy are lying to him

El is about to reunite with Kali

Billy's dad talks to him about "respect and responsibility" and he asks him if he understood

Joyce clicks on how to free Will from the Mind flayer.

That is pretty much it. Probably I will post pt. 2 tomorrow and let me know your thoughts.

I will leave the posts that inspired this madness raptus below, so that if you want to understand more, you'll be able to.

this by @aemiron-main

this by @byler-4-life

#byler #mine #eightfifteen gate #8:15 gate #i'm fucking crazy but i'm free #laying all the facts down so smarter people can make connections and correlations #like substracting 8:15 from the lenghts was so hard #no wonder i dropped out of my maths degree #mom #unhinged as hell.

[inutaffy]

you guys gonna hear me out yes or no

#this should be a byler gate #it all started when i went searching for a wizard of oz au..... #there's like none btw #stranger things #byler #smalltown boy mike is sooooo dorothy #SOMEWHHHERREEE OVER THR RAINBOW??? CMON #max mayfield #will byers #mike wheeler #el hopper