#all we have is cancel-culture

[elegantkittycat]

i'm watching never let me go and i actually like it and i just checked it on mdl and no one likes it in the comments? and i wonder

i mean, nevermind, to each their own but like, i saw some ppl bringing up palm, and i dunno, guess him not being all teary-eyed over his mother's death and such and i'm like. that's trauma for you. it has like, a million faces. and what, he's known that woman for a month or so? i'm not saying that to sound heartless, but it's a complicated relationship. she's never been there for him, and this time is not by choice either. of course she grew to like him, love him even, but that's a product of circumstance rather than intent, too. she would've been perfectly fine living all of her life without his son. and said son knows that. how painful that must be? it's complicated and i think it was carefully written and well-executed. Palm practically mourns a barely stranger. from his heart and from duty at the same time. a concept and a friend more, than a mother.

anyway,

the day my dad died, and after i was told through the phone i wrote a badass assignment in constitutional law. the best i ever did. i loved him dearly, don't misunderstand. his death destroyed my life and ruined practically everything in it. but you know, even after one year of it happening i don't think i had a grasp on reality much. i may even have joked some. trauma is weird as hell and Palm's reactions, his clinical attitude, his fits of depression and rage and then denial and his clinging to Nueng above anything else all rings relatable to me from my own traumas. but maybe i'm just a shitty human, who knows.

[and really this is just a side-note but Palm seems to be a guy who makes peace with bad facts of life and hardships thrown at him in a minute. he seems to accept the inevitability of suffering, of death, of lows and highs pretty easily and without much fanfare. i got a vibe from his character that he's like a deep, peaceful lake amidst the mountains. just there, calmly existing with everything. sure, when things ripple him badly he's ready to drown the offenders but it's not very personal. except in the case of Nueng.]

another one people seem to go on about, that Palm is a shitty bodyguard. i mean, yeah, really?? the whole point of the series is that he isn't a fucking bodyguard, he's just a boy who was dragged into this and fell in love, unfortunately. XD or is it just me who thinks that? i mean they point it out multiple times but idk. his dad was quite effective i think, for those what, seventeen years he protected Pipop but Palm is just a fisherboy. it is repeated like mantra throughout the show. in school they gossip about him being the son of the bodyguard forced to be around Nueng. which he technically is. Mrs. Tanya is using them both. Uncle Non's subservience and his willing sacrifices and his offering of a son Nueng's age. it's not a malicious abuse of power - it's subtle and seems justified and we're all so brainwashed alongside Uncle Non that we collectively forgot that that's a bad thing – wealthy people using us to their pleasure and convenience.... this show makes very strong points, (it seems way too subtly) imo.... and there's this strong implication in the first ep too, that Palm mostly grew up alone. he learned hard shit but his father was busy being an actual bodyguard in Bangkok, and he couldn't exactly teach his son that at the same time in some faraway village he grew up in... he must've been an absent father. of course Palm's terrible, it's a wonder he grew up to be this respectful and decent at all XD

also i'm not saying that Phuwin's and Pond's acting is the best I've seen but I don't know, tastes really do seem to differ cause i'm so uncomfortable with Chimon's acting (or presence, it's unclear at this point) omg. everyone has the hots for him and i'm just sitting here deeply uncomfortable. that's just a personal thing i guess but when i looked at his character first in this series (i never watched anything with him in it before) i thought he was fishy. and i just can't seem to shake that off. at first i thought it was the character but as it turned out he's a good guy. XD he gives me the creeps tho. idk, sorry man, i'm sure you're nice. maybe too nice. i can't believe a word he says. i'm so sorry.

oh but Perth is flawless. his is an outstanding performance and i'd love to see more of that but man if they really gonna have a series with Chimon i have to man up...

oh, and the Chopper's dad issue is a funny one too XD like, "the villain is so simple and his motivation is just money and he only talks and could've killed his sister-in-law a thousand times" etc...... i thought that was the whole point? like i seem to misunderstand everything here, but i truly genuinely thought that the villain being simple, kinda dumb and well, villain-y in a bad sorta way is intentionally disillusioned? that's why we know it's him from the get-go?! this is not supposed to be a mystery genius, this is to make us feel terrible and uncomfortable and uneasy, because that's the healthy real-life reaction to fucking criminals!? who murder their own family, no less. (i can't believe i'm saying this, being the biggest dark lord apologist in history but come on, this is not that type of fiction T_T ) he's like that because criminals are that simple sometimes?? they are big mouthed bullies sometimes? there is a reason he wasn't high up in the hierarchy and his brother looked down on him and never allowed him to manage big things?? because he's unstable, he's all talk, he's hateful, pitiful and a little dumb?? and that's a villain for you? also you wouldn't believe the LENGTHS simple people are willing to go for money... money is never an unworthy motivation, it's one of the single most important ones for criminals, business owners, bankers, bakers, kids, adults, actors and actresses', doctors, writers, your fave youtubers, moms, dads, uncles, mob bosess... you get the picture. duh.

(for me Uncle Kit's character was actually nice after the endless romanticization of criminals ~ i'm not looking at you kinn/porsche, i love you {kinda} but I'M SIDE-EYEING YOU. WTF WAS THAT AND WHY??!? SO FUCKING SICK AND TWISTED AND SORRY GIRLS but criminals are not all sweaty-sexy misunderstood and miseducated and mentally whacky and forced by their daddies but still somehow genius Vegas'?????? whatever the plural of this name is, i'm making grammar up as i go, sorry, rant over, i love you Vegas BUT WTF ~ )

all in all, i'm vibing to something entirely different than the rest. as per usual, i guess.

i especially loved Palm's mother and the difficult to swallow life lessons packed up in there. motherhood, self-love, selfishness, children, responsibilities, desires, duty, suffocation in a loving relationship, personal freedom... that was a good one. never seen that before in a thai bl either. you either have the devoted parent or the angry not so agreeable but ultimately i-love-you-and-i'm-here-for-you parent. but an absent parent by choice....... i felt like she was brilliant.

and i love Nueng's mother too. the very little we've seen of her is amazing. strong, no-nonsense but with a heart. devoted to her family, ready to kill for them but ultimately she's the one who gets almost killed. she seems the complete opposite of Palm's mother but not at the same time and i'm here for it, okay? i'm in love with that.

also i gotta admit that i haven't watched ep.11 yet but i just cracked up a little and this rant felt good to let out. sorry not sorry

and i would like to emphasize it: this post does not have an agenda to convince you to love a series that you don't enjoy or anything. we are all allowed to feel differently about everything under the sun (and above it and beyond). this is just my singular experience with a piece of media, wich provoked strong feelings and made me think about many aspects of humanity.

#i'm living for controversial opninions #in an era where debate is not even there anymore #all we have is cancel-culture #whatever the hell that means #besides the lack of intelligence sense and a willingness to let others live #it's a glorified word for cyber-bullying #isn't it #never let me go #never let me go the series #pond phuwin #i'm enjoying this #but the comments on mdl made me feel bad about that #so i had to reassure myself in a rant #hardly anyone would see #and now i actually do feel better #that's all that matters #thai bl #thai drama #thai series #i'm in way too deep

[crazycatsiren]

You owe no one forgiveness. But it's a shit thing to do to try to ruin someone's life with a mistake they made a long time ago when they've grown and changed.

#mother witch ramblings #nobody is perfect #growth #change #cancel culture #people can learn #we all make mistakes #we have all been all young and stupid

[eliza1911o1]

MAPPA WHEN I SAY WE’RE COMING FOR YOU

#ice adolescence #genuinely crushed at the news of the movie’s cancellation (after years of baiting) #someone save YOI from this abusive/toxic relationship #how could you cancel a masterpiece like yuri on ice #you could have made history #victuuri in our hearts even if MAPPA won’t give it to us #yuri on ice s2 we will see you one day #grief #inhibiting culture #stay strong everyone #comforted we all feel the same #MAPPA tread carefully #maybe focus on making art not money? #how much more suffering can this world take? #maybe give the people what they want? #yuri on ice #victor nikiforov #animation #MAPPA #yuri katsuki #yuri plisetsky #anime

[skyhawkstragedy]

so much for “Renaissance era Big Brother”

#bb25 #we’re all back to our usual rooting for the show to be cancelled schtick #although we were like this in bb23 too despite having an all black f6 #so are we really in a new era of BB? #or is this era gonna be the fan culture changing as well as the game culture? #the world will never know

[wack-ashimself]

On people dressing as "stereotypes"

But the people they are dressing as are not offended but other people are on behalf of them.

"but that's the point. If you mean no disrespect and the people that should and could be offended are not offended, there's no disrespect. It's people trying to be offended on behalf of other people they're not representing themselves. It's just people trying to be self-righteous. Like I've always been annoyed with the concept of don't steal my culture. All culture is stolen. Everybody took everybody's ideas. There's nothing really original. Unless like they were that fucking Island that never was contacted by outside people. Otherwise the second people started traveling, everything was shared. And shouldn't that be the point? We try to take the best ideas from each other?"

#culture #cancel culture #stereotypes #kill all culture #create your own #its not like every culture doesnt have bad aspects that we keep sharing ignorantly too #so how about we share the good stuff

[heirbane]

Like I earnestly believe that for all he's known for, gaius DID look at the black rose project and put his foot down and did his best to make it impossible to proceed. Even earlier on, before Werlyt, we were seeing glimpses of the cracks in how far he was willing to go for Garlemald. How is that overlooked? How do people see that and blanket him as a bad person? Like, he IS - but there's hope there.

#i dont know what im trying to say #in real life we see awful horrific examples of people who Do Bad Things with No regard or conscience for their acts #and even in the weapon series we were introduced to a villain who is TRULY a villain #but somehow g.aius is seen as the end all be all. idk. is it the realism of his crimes? #is it the fact that we see our own mistakes and fear of cancel culture in his acts and are projecting? #like full stop i have absolutely supported things out of ignorance. p.eta? did that wore the merch #t.wloha? also bought merch AND did a fundraiser in high school! and i AM EMBARRASSED #both of these groups have poor ideology but make you feel like you're doing a Good. #g.aius was raised in a military regime nd is doing his best to heal the marks he's left. #that isn't villainous that is human nd i think if you look at him nd claim he's a bad person despite it #then maybe you need to sit nd think about why. why does his atonement bother you? #do some not deserve it? why? what would make it okay to you? is it a reasonable expectation to place on someone? #ⅹⅳ loci phantasma ( ooc. )

[hillbillyoracle]

...

#I think it's funny #how many cancel culture folks #seem to leave my spaces #simply because I'm not as reactive as they are #which makes me 'as bad as the bad guys' #see also people who can't deal #with me talking about my abusive relationship #because both of us being trans and queer #disrupts their narrative #that trans and queer = good #nah dude we're all just fucking people #and regardless of how we identify #some of us wind up in bad situations #or are the bad situation #identity is a much smaller part of life #than the loudest voices would have you believe

[echidnana]

it's kind of horrible but a lot of the time we feel like we don't have a right/"claim" to chinese culture and religion

#i think even if we looked more chinese we'd still feel this way... #sometimes we feel as if our mixed-ness cancels out and leaves us with no culture at all #which is ridiculous of course #but i think it partially comes from living in the us #and having parents that are really assimilated. so growing up we had pretty minimal cultural connection #which is sort of just a shitty byproduct of usamerican culture #confluence.txt

[junonreactor]

every time pmoon puts out a notice i am prepared to feel deep disdain but lol. lmao. holy fuck.

#the accusation of political motivation on the user group but not the fucking incels. the conflicting statements regarding the dismissal. #the fact that they put up en/jp translations of their notice from TWO MONTHS AGO immediately afterward so it looks even more #like they're doubling down on a deeply fucked decision. the threat of legal action Again. #all that just to fail hilariously at brushing this away before tgs. incredible. kim jihoon spontaneously combust challenge #ein babbles #yes i uninstalled the game yes i do keep up with official updates because im invested in seeing where this shit #ESPECIALLY if anything actually happens in regards to like. legal ramifications on any side #they're so stupid and they think we are even stupider. incredible to watch. #HFDGJKAHFGD THEY TWEETED AGAIN. #'stop being mean to us for real we WILL sue you' yeah ok. 'we're trying to protect our employees' ok. like the translators? translator. #if they could they would have had cancel culture buzzwords everywhere in that english notice. #they reuploaded the draft letter that the union said they wouldn't be publishing. what are you Doing over there... #like. all of this and not a single word about how the tweets that started this mess were deleted and couldnt possibly be reasonably counted #against vellmori re:company policy. and no action is apparently being taken against the dcinsider losers who went to the company. #their targets for legal retaliation make it very clear what their priorities are it's so. lmao.

[godofsmallthings]

anyway fuck men.

#like for real. #i completely understand why she doesn't want to address it outside of the music but the revenge-seeking part of me #really wishes jm especially could have a huge public reckoning #not that it would actually do anything probably. bc cancel culture doesn't work when it needs to and we all actually still hate women #but god it's just so heartbreaking and frustrating because it's literally still happening #it's also hard because like. she would get torn to shreds and he would have so much industry backing and skdjlfhdakjfh;adjkhkjshsa #i just hope it's her decision and not like her team being like. well maybe let's not publicly attack a music industry darling #or something #but i doubt that's the case (hopefully?) because she lowkey does what she wants and her people seem to be in her corner #when things get hard and it really counts #idk #just the politics about weighing up whether it's worth it to speak about abuse as a woman are soooo sdkjfhskdjfhkjahsk;djfhas #yeah #anyway i'll get off my soapbox now i need to make dinner #vi is typing...

[mintacle]

We should start calling media that portrays simple good vs.bad conflicts "problematic media" because it perpetrates uncritical thinking.

#this post is about extreme cencoring and cancel culture #we have to be able to talk about unpleasant stuff #and there will be people who have horrible misconceptions but uow are you supposed to change that if you don't talk to them #i love nuance #the problem with being anti is that you define yourself through opposition #define yourself by the values you do stand for instead #i thibk that's more likely to effect change #all my love for morally grey characters and morally grey media #like yeah! let's talk about it #also the comfort it gives me personally as someone who was told they are a bad kid

[jazzzzzzhands]

To all the Twitter people coming over here...

Welcome Home 😌

#i honestly will be so glad to see all the fresh welcome home art #i stalk that wally darling tag #im pretty much a wally darling blog now ahahaha #i have so much to draw for him #yall dont even know how obsessed i am #yall better get a profile picture cause we block on contact #also drama doesnt do well over here just so yall know #we have good vibes and dont do cancel culture or cringe culture

[anotherpapercut]

I love Christian books written by lunatics where they're like "only Christianity can save America from racism" girl u mean the religion that was used to enforce and uphold slavery for generations in the us and other colonized countries??

#ive only ever seen one book that acknowledged this and it was very weirdly done #but like an effort was made? #how bout these guys start paying reperations then we can talk about the white christian church ending racism or whatever #this book calles Wokeness and Wokeism heir own official religions...... #can we just make an island. like a man made island for all of these people to go live on away from the rest of us? #like if you think the godless left is destroying america with cancel culture and critical race theory then just go live on Christ Island #and you guys can fight over how to run a country amongst each other and leave the rest of us alone how does that sound #then i wont have to process these stupid fucking books because Christ Island will have their own little publisher #and their own little libraries sanitized of anything that even hints that one should have an open mind to other ways of life

[dfnkt]

Man I hope a Twitter alternative pops up soon. I don't do social media I just text my friends so that website is my morning paper basically and also professional networking and idgaf what people say, Mastodon doesn't serve the same purpose.

I love Mastodon for *other* applications but as a one for one recreation of the Twitter experience, there's nothing else yet.

#chat #ill be on twt until its honest to god dead but its getting worse daily #especially now that legacy verifications are being removed and features are being restricted to subscribers #i am absolutely not paying for that shit #i just hate how all major social media is centered around generating content #instagram tiktok snapchat being notable stand outs like i dont want to post my breakfast i want to read articles that will enrage me #when i post thoughts like this im basically talking to myself this is like a journal i know for a fact no one i know irl will read lmao #even though almost all of it is things i tell my friends anyway but i am still slightly enslaved by cringe culture #cant have them seeing me talk about stridercest they wont cancel me theyll clown me no judgement just harassment #we have all been friends for so long that nothing is sacred

[please-picturemeintheweeds]

I have Opinions about the discussion that pops up every few months about the ethics of labeling JM an abuser but I am afraid of the vague posts and anon hate I would get if I posted them 🫠 which probably means I should be brave and post them. Speak now or whatever she said lol

#this topic is so very nuanced in pretty much every possible way #and it is not nearly as simple as any of the takes I have seen so far about this #JM #tw abuse #abuse #c #trauma #there’s some sticky nuance around parasocial relationships and the nature of celebrity status #also the whole Thing about cancel culture and how labeling people abusers is steeped in carceral feminism and actively harms survivors #plus the value of learning language for your experiences and learning about what abuse is from pop culture #so there’s an important element of sharing information and learning about abuse as a way of empowering survivors who may not Know Yet #if we’re comfortable talking about the relationship dynamics in her love songs we need to be comfy talking about them in WCS and dear john #we can’t expect Taylor - a survivor (long story short I survived) to owe the public a statement about John Fucking Mayer #there’s legal garbage! he would SUE HER IF SHE SAID THAT #she is treading a very fine line with what she says publicly - something that most survivors also experience (but #her discography is quite literal with how she handles Trauma: flashbacks triggers insomnia paranoia trust issues etc #it’s all there and we need to be careful about paternalizing survivors and that is actually compatable with not buying into cancel culture #his actions as described by her + things he himself has said in interviews at various points are textbook abuse #and pointing that out is valuable. #telling john Mayer to kill himself on Twitter is Not Valuable. #she is not our little sister. she is a grown adult woman who is clearly processing her trauma #she has trusted her fans with her vulnerability and authenticity #and to brush it off and expect her to Perform Victimhood by making a public accusation against an extremely powerful man in her industry???? #whoops I ranted in my tags but yeah it’s nuanced as hell #would’ve could’ve should’ve hours #would’ve could’ve should’ve #all that said!! I definitely understand and empathize with the sentiment of letting survivors tell their own stories and not forcing labels #In the hypothetical situation where she sees us discussing and learning from her art and her life story: #is that forcing something on her? or is that critically engaging with her art? #she said midnights is autobiographical and she said 19 and called him the devil who stole her girlhood come on

[xarmapolicex]

cancel culture will be the death of me. i am going to become completely obsessed and lock myself in a cellar and write 200,000 essays on it until i come to some conclusion.

how exactly did it become so prevalent? did a young and overly-ambitious/naive gen z take the concept of “accountability” too far? has the internet raised people to dehumanise others because to them their subject is uncanny, simply an image on a screen,,, and led to a guiltless (and/or once again naive) mob mentality? how do we turn this into a more effective system, or does it need a system?

does anyone have any good reading (or thoughts!) on it??

#cancel culture #txt #can you guys tell this stresses me out i feel like i post ab it a lot 😭 #a personal note! i’ve found myself idolising celebrities a lot more lately and i think in ALL HONESTY it has to do with my lack of friends. #or rather my lack of a favourite person!!!!!! bpd #because i do have friends just none i’d give my soul to or for. #so i think i’m trying to give my soul to people i can project good qualities into? maybe? #there it is— the uncanny. #shall we talk about parasocial relationships? #haha no #i am going to sleep now #cancelled #canceled #celebrity cancelled #thoughts on society