#didn't know shipping was so popular

[adhd-merlin]

Okay my random rarepair is Percival/Lancelot. Simply because when Lancelot comes back there is NO EXPLANATION as to who Percival is, or where they met, or their relationship, or anything like that. And when he introduced him to Arthur he doesn't say anything about it either . Like no "this is Percival, we were prize fighters together. Thank got we never fought each other!" Or even just "this is my friend, Percival." Like one line of backstory! Anything! And it reminds of how sometimes when you're queer, and especially when you're queer and your relationship is a little.... ambiguous?....and you don't necessarily want to introduce your Person as your Lover or Boyfriend to someone who might be homophobic (and let's face it, Arthur's a rich white guy, Lancelot doesn't know he ISNT homophobic) but you don't want to say friend for fear or insulting them, and you just don't want to get into the intricacies or queer relationships in front of The Straights so you just say "this is X" and let people make their own conclusions.

And thus a ship was born.

great stuff anon, I love the way you think

#always amazed by the things people will read into a single line #it's fantastic #i didn't know percy was so popular #i guess you guys like the strong and silent type uh #omg look at lance he looks so smol next to him #rarepair propaganda #asks #does this ship have a name? #perlance #< maybe idk #incorrect quotes

[kimdokja-real]

So Secret from bottomjoonghyuk (Kim Dokja)

This Guy like Kim Dokja is Really Kim Dokja.

We Are Acting as Omniscient Reader Characters Because it's the Fandom He Loves, But He's Really Kim Dokja.

His Friends Say Kim Dokja is so Dense, He Thought He Was Yoo Joonghyuk.

Which was Why He shipped Dokjoong despite it being a unpopular pairing.

But Then He Left Tumblr As a New Person After Becoming Bored, Found Us and Found He's Kim Dokja, And Returned as Kim Dokja. To the url bottomjoonghyuk.

This mastermind would say, 'Bottomjoonghyuk, so as Yoo Joonghyuk I was at the bottom, but now as Kim Dokja, I'm Me, and I'm at the Top.'

Yes He Would Really Say This, Don't Be Fooled By His Polite Personality Here.

This Guy We Love is Egotistical Like Fuck.

Sometimes.

What Friends.

Kim Dokja is Sleeping. Stop it already.

Kim Dokja is Mine. Fuck Off.

You Fuck Off.

Go Away Yoo Joonghyuk and Secretive Bastard Plotter, Han Sooyoung Turn.

This is So Funny.

Ok but Like the Real Kim Dokja, Thought He was Yoo Joonghyuk Because He Wanted To Become Yoo Joonghyuk.

This Kim Dokja Real, Thought He Was Yoo Joonghyuk Because He Didn't Know He Was Kim Dokja, and Wrote -

Shut up Han Sooyoung Protects!!!!!!!!! yoo-

Joonghyuk.

Fuck off, I don't Ship Joongdok (or Dokjoong), Kim Dokja is Mine!

Fake Uriel.

Fics - Yeah.

Anyway it's such a Coincidence, Lol.

The Entire Universe, Be More Useful!

Sorry Group Name.

Kim Dokja is the Centre of the Universe.

I Wrote that not Han Sooyoung

Fuck off Han Sooyoung, my Turn!

Han Sooyoung Rejects!

Move Yoo Joonghyuk, Go Have Sex with Secretive Plotter Or Something. Cuddle Kim Dokja -

FUCK OFF KIM DOKJA IS MINE. I WOULD RATHER DIE X2 TIMES 32 DON'T KNOW WHAT TURNS THAN HAVE SEX WITH SO CALLED SECRETIVE PLOTTER

SECRETIVE PLOTTER.

Past Lives.

Yeah, Sure.

Anyway, Kim Dokja.

Sorry about this Useless ENtire Universe.

God is Sleeping!

Our God Kim Dokja.

A Moment Of Silence.

Bottom joonghyuk actually Kim Dokja in Disguise.

We Are Sorry, God.

Anyway, So It's Funny Because yeah Kim Dokja in ORV Wanted to be Yoo Joonghyuk. and This Kim Dokja is so Dense He Didn't Know He Wasn't Yoo Joonghyuk, but Kim Dokja. While being interested in Kim Dokja's words while Reading Omniscient Reader.

Yay So a Miracle Has Happened for Kim Dokja in Real Life, Kim Dokja's Friends Found Him Again, Yeah! - Han Sooyoung

Yay Kim Dokja Totally Has Friends Now.

Still Laughing at the Thinking He's Yoo Joonghyuk.

We Won't Bully Our Precious God *Glares* - Han Sooyoung

You Think You Writer Here?

Brb Murder people - hansooyoung

Brb look at kim dokja secretly - Secretive plotter

Brb MURDER Secretive Plotter -a very calm yoo joonghyuk

The Entire Useless Universe.

(We Hope You'll Enjoy Our Kim Dokja.)

#bet you're looking at him with new eyes now #he didn't know he wasn't Yoo Joonghyuk #Yes this bottomjoonghyuk shipper is Actually Kim Dokja #Kim Dokja's Friends #LOL #But Seriously We Love Him So Much #Just Let Yourself Be Loved Kim Dokja #also he didn't know he was so popular enough to make people like a non existent pairing like dokjoong lol #And He still Does not ship Joongdok #Lol #The Entire Universe #The Entire Useless Universe #ORV #Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint #Kim Dokja #JoongDok #DokJoong #Yoo Joonghyuk #Kim Dokja and Friends

[straighttxhell]

The fact that there's over 600 fics of Hobie and Miles and just 54 of Hobie and Gwen considering they both "came out" or became popular at the same time should give you an idea of how little content there is and how much i want to kill myself.

#across the spiderverse #hobie brown #gwen stacy #btw no shade to any other ship i just needed a point of reference i think it's great so many people liked it and are making content of it #i just wish ghostpunk had gotten the same popularity #and i wonder why it didn't #but that's not for me to know #ghostpunk

[frozenhi-chews]

Arthur and Starlo, the two desert F/Os

And my desert-loving butt is going nuts over both of them HUAAGH

#the cake doth speak #self ship stuff #i love the aesthetic of deserts. I've grown up in one !! #the sunset in a desert?? holy crap it is GORGEOUS #and MAN- #the MSA gang really does feel like a fun found family that picked me up and let me join them #yall have no idea just how much i love em #and then Stars just asked me out on a date and i saud yes #said* #AAUGH #also remembering i wanted to comm this one popular MSA artist for a self ship comm but didn't #because i was so freaking scared #can anyone tell me if nebulous-rain does self ship msa comms bc I'm. i still want one from them. i love how they draw arthur #im just. way too shy #(they also liked a couple of my msa self ship posts so what do i know #ah well) #arthur kingsmen <3 #🌵💫

[lover-of-mine]

Seeing people watch 911 for the first time and be like "I thought the buddie girlies were overreacting, but I have watched the show and I get it now" will never not be fun.

#like i didn't have enough context on the show before i started so like i don't know the experience #but i feel like people look at them the way they look at other m/m non canon popular ships #enough subtext for you to build something but that realistically is not going anywhere #but buddie has a whole child #THEY HAVE A CHILD TOGETHER #hopeless devotion is painfully clear #we have scenes where both of them are screaming themselves hoarse because the other is in danger #were not imagining things or blowing things up #it's there on my screen #undeniably #crazy #911 #thoughts thoughts thoughts

[adelle-ein]

idk man i've reblogged and said things about how certain people on this site and the bird one are putin defenders, syrian/ukranian genocide deniers, outright white supremacists, avowed antisemites, etc. pointed out the ways in which the current moment is being happily hijacked by white supremacists with very strong and obvious agendas. and some of you guys have reblogged and liked those posts, and then immediately gone on to continue reblogging violently antisemitic things from the very same people. so i don't think it's sinking in tbh

(and like, the posts in question are never anything useful or links to articles or anything remotely "worth" platforming genocide deniers, just the usual "DON'T SCROLL PAST THIS, POSTING IS ACTIVISM" shit)

#if i had a nickel for every kpop blog making weird inflammatory posts about how the most important thing to do is Keep Posting bc donations #and calling reps are wastes of times #i would have many nickels #not even just this last month i mean like just in general it's a very popular position among that crowd #seeing people say ''we're winning'' about something like this is just....sick doesn't begin to describe it #i've lost so much respect for so many people. people i've known for years #who will apparently turn around and retweet fucking hasanabi and even jackson hinkle and other nazis #btwn this and the heard trial debacle last year the mask has been ripped off the online left tbh #and because people are going to call me a zionist for this (since they know they're not allowed to say kike) i'm not fucking talking about #antizionism i'm talking about ''ship the jews back to brooklyn'' ''israelis control the world media'' ''jews expressing concern about risin #antisemitism are personally killing palestinians'' ''the hamas attacks didn't happen/were justified'' invoking the holocaust joking about i #etc etc etc etc #just mask off shit #it's the genocide deniers who have really broken me i had no idea how many of this website's big funnymen think putin is a cool dude #but they care about palestine. allegedly. hm #txt #inb4 people come to me with ''it's so easy to not be an antisemite why can't people do it :('' no actually it's hard #that's why they won't do it. because it's too hard for them.

[chirp-featherfowl]

PREVIEWING: the one where i write fanfiction about a man with a wife and kid

(working title.)

“Ow,” Martyn says, monotone. “Ouch. Ough. Ack.”

Scott reaches up and hits him on the face. “Would you quit it with the dramatics?”

Two thirteen year old boys sit up in a treehouse much too high up to be safe. Rain patters gently on the roof, and water seeps in through the cracks of the old, splintered wood, hitting Scott on the forehead if he dares lean his head back. It smells of mold and 70% alcohol. “Sorry,” Martyn replies. He sits on an old pillow, skinned knee up and facing Scott.

It looks just about how Scott had expected Pearl and Big B’s treehouse to look like. There’s a tattered Wings of Fire poster up on the wall, but upon closer inspection, he can clearly see that it’s just four printed sheets of paper taped together.

Scott presses another one of those alcohol pads up to Martyn’s knee, and he hisses, scooting back just a little bit before a sorry look flashes across his face. Martyn moves back, and Scott expects Jimmy to pop up with a tirade of complaints, but Jimmy is not there. He’s getting his blond boys confused.

That’s what I get for having a crush before reaching high school, Scott thinks.

#limited life #trafficshipping #scott smajor #martyn inthelittlewood #no one fucking needs to know about this okay #we can keep this one a secret ok tumblr. just this once #if i blow up and become some popular internet icon we can let it go ok #i'm hesitant to tag this with either #ships mentioned because they are both not really mentioned. #im sorry all my non life smp followers. so sorry. so sorry. i should make a sideblog but i don't feel like it #also did you guys know that stampy and martyn were brothers in law?? because i didn't #he has a daughter and her name is amelia. am i morally in the wrong to be writing this #i fear god is going to kill me

[eosofspades]

Question for you, on the subject of SPOP ships: would you have been okay with Glitradora (essentially the poly trio) being a thing, had Nate Stevenson decided he wanted to go that direction? I'm just curious as someone who loved how the Catradora arc was done in the show.

(And for the record, I understand your indifference towards both Korrasami and CaitVi--the latter will need some more seasons in the oven to really flourish, while the former is severely hampered by the constant executive interference Nickelodeon pulled on LOK during its original run.)

if glitradora were made canon i would have eaten my own face (/pos) my god the CONCEPT,,, the DRAMA,,, the DYNAMICS,,,,, that would have been my roman empire actually

also agree w everything you say here indifference is a great word for it. caitvi i actually see the potential in them i don't dislike the pairing it just rlly isn't compelling to me. i actually felt a little,,, weird about it? it felt like it came out of nowhere to me?? which i know isn't true but something about it just strikes me as Rushed idk (vi is still one of my favorite characters though)

as for korrasami i lowkey feel bad hating on it bc i KNOW how much the network screwed over the writers about it, but like,,, man i don't even see the potential in this one ahgakjsdas. i will admit though a big part of this is just the general writing of tlok i felt wasn't great so the character dynamics seem sorta weak to me. i AM glad for what they did for representation in kids' cartoons though and i'm glad ppl are having a good time shipping them. the fanart is gorgeous also

#i will also say though. part of what i dislike about korrasami is that i simply do not find asami compelling. korra was truly the only #character in that show that i REALLY liked everyone else was either just kinda There or i actively didn't like #i think what it comes down to for me is that i feel bad for not liking these mainstream wlw ships (i forgot to mention this before but #chaggie via hazbin hotel is ALSO on this list) is bc like. i am AWARE of how important these relationships are in terms of #representation of wlw ESPECIALLY korrasami and that there's nothing WRONG with the ships but #so often im like.... this is unseasoned plain chicken to me. they could literally just be besties and i think i would enjoy that MORE #and then i spiral im like. oh god wait this is the societally ingrained minimizing/softening/erasure of sapphic relationships and #watering down to 'girl best friends' #am *I* the problem? is this internalized lesbophobic rhetoric?? #which. i highly DOUBT. bc i DO like wlw ships. as stated any combination of catra/glimmer/adora i ADORE #but it. bothers me #especially bc these ships are soooo popular and idk if we've just gotten used to only getting the unseasoned chicken or if #i AM. in fact. the problem #RORY HAS A GAY LITTLE CRISIS IN THE TAGS OF THIS POST SORRY I KNOW YOU DIDNT ASK FOR THIS FHSKDJFHJS #ask #mine

[teamhawkeye]

someone in Zach’s Quarry stream chat: zach, did you know some people ship Travis and Laura, makes my skin crawl

me sitting in the same chat:

#this just in: water is wet! it's the second most popular ship in the whole game idk what they're expecting at this point lmao #also: would love to know what happened to 'don't bother actors/writers/directors about characters/ships from projects they worked on' #he didn't respond to it so i assume he didn't see it but man c'mon - leave him alone with that lmao #but then it reminds me of the big cast stream in the fall & how some people started getting pissy with Justice for talking about Ryan/Laura #and like - if he /wants/ to talk about a ship involving his character he's allowed to. don't tell him to shut up. that was fucking wild

[something-about-sunflowers]

Alright, this might be a long post so, fair warning lmao.

I realize my previous post may sound like I’m doing some deep dive conspiracy exposé or something, just getting out ahead of it: this isn’t that. This is mostly speculation and educated guesses. For the sake of clarity, this is just how I am reading the situation and may not, in fact, reflect what is actually happening (Even though, I’m pretty positive it is).

Disclaimer aside, I’m gonna get into why (I think) Izzy and the real living human beings who are fans of Izzy are getting so much aggressive hate. And why there’s so much inflammatory discourse around the character.

The gist of it is:

1. Its Ship War Bull Shit

2. The Entitlement

3. Silencing And Scare Tactics

4. We’re Not Falling For It

5. As Good Of A Solution As We’re Gonna Get (At Least Until Something Big Changes In Fan Culture As We Know It)

Now, actually Getting Into All That:

1. Its Ship War Bull Shit

Exactly what it says on the tin. I’m not saying and I don’t want to imply that everybody with their own preferred non-Izzy ships are the ones encouraging and participating in this behavior. What I am saying is that a non-zero number of, particularly Blackbonnet/Gentlebeard, shippers (though this isn’t unique to them) don’t like seeing other people ship Izzy with one (or more) of the characters in their ship. The same could be said for other fan favorites/popular ships as well. Jim, Lucius, Frenchie, etc. There is almost always another popular ship that the other party is involved in.

Though this does go beyond shipping as well. The way I see it, even people who don’t have ‘overlapping’ ships (or who don’t have ships at all and simply like Izzy on his own merit) are a target because of association with other fans who do. Whether that is actual interactions with said other fans or only imagined by way of them both being fans of Izzy.

This idea of a zero-sum game where, if people ship Blackhands that means there’s less people who ship Blackbonnet/Gentlebeard! (Or Ouizzy vs Room People, or Sprizzy vs Lucius’ polycule, or Jim/Izzy vs Tealoranges) is a false one. Multi shippers exist. Some people are more than capable of shipping two overlapping pairings with no problems. Sometimes people just don’t ship your ship. Its unreasonable to be mad at a Tealoranges shipper for not shipping Blackbonnet/Gentlebeard, so should it be unreasonable to be mad at a Blackhands/Gentlehands/Ouizzy/Sprizzy/etc shipper for not shipping your preferred ship.

Which brings me to my next point, being:

2. The Entitlement

Hi. I’m someone who is very particular in my ships. I have a handful that I like and I don’t particularly like to see ones that I don’t like, especially if they involve a character I ship with someone else. The difference between me and The Problem is that I am fully aware that my fandom experience is my own responsibility. If I don’t like something, its on me to remove myself from situations where I might encounter said thing. I don’t go into tags for ships I don’t like. I don’t go into tags for characters I don’t like. If I read a fic that deals with topics or ships that I don’t like I simply back out and move on with my day (provided the fic was properly tagged, please make sure you’re tagging your fics properly).

The Problem comes when people don’t take responsibility for their own fandom experience and expect everyone else to cater to their tastes. You are not entitled to other people’s: time, energy, enjoyment. If you are not paying someone, they don’t owe you anything.

I understand it can be frustrating when it seems like there’s not enough content for something you enjoy but there’s an apparent abundance of content for something you don’t but the only person who’s problem that is? Is you. Be the change you want to see in the world. If you think there’s a lack of content for your preferred thing? Go make content for that thing. If you don’t think you have the talent to make content for the thing? Do it anyway. Talent is not inherent and practice doesn’t make perfect but it does make improvements and for every imperfect thing you do make you’re increasing the amount of the thing you like. If you’re not inclined to make then consider commissioning someone. If you can’t be bothered to do either though? You’re not allowed to complain about a lack of content because you are part of the problem.

The entitlement doesn’t do you any favors either. When I joined this fandom I was over the moon for Blackbonnet/Gentlebeard. Now? I only read it if its written by a small handful of people because I don’t/can’t trust that anyone outside of those people aren’t going to be Weird About Izzy (and unnecessarily aggro at me about it). I don’t engage with the content for it anymore because The Problem has made it unsafe to do so. I have no intentions of making any sort of content for it now either. I do not cater to bullies and, for my own sake, I don’t care if ‘innocent’ people get caught in the crossfire. They are missing out on content because of people they are either passively allowing to remain in their spaces or actively encouraging. I am not the only one who has adopted this policy in light of The Problem.

Again, you are not entitled to other people’s: time, energy, enjoyment. If you make your spaces inhospitable for them, they are well within their rights to remove themselves from said spaces and blacklist the community from their own spaces.

Speaking of inhospitality:

3. Silencing And Scare Tactics

This is where the issue really lies. Fueled by The Entitlement, The Problem decides the best way to avoid/discourage content they don’t like is to make it seem like said content causes harm. Basically: ‘Its Problematic!’

This is where the ‘Izzy is racist/homophobic/a colonizer/etc comes from. It doesn’t matter what the canon says. It doesn’t matter if its interpretation or bad faith or anything else. ‘Izzy is a bigot’ is by and large, true or not, a silencing tactic to scare people into complying with the demands of The Problem. Its why ‘and that makes you an apologist/part of the problem’ always follows. Regardless of whether or not the person being told this is a part of any of the groups Izzy has allegedly wronged (for the sake of being part of those groups).

Its why several BIPOC have been accused of racism for being fans of Izzy. Why abuse survivors have been called abuse apologists for liking him.

The average person, when interacting with the fandom, will hear the loudest voices yelling ‘Izzy is problematic and so are you if you like him’ and avoid the topic for fear of coming across as problematic themselves. They won’t bother looking into the accusations because there is a risk in digging deeper and moreso of speaking out. ‘Its Problematic’ is a shield to hide the abuse being thrown at people who would really rather just be minding their own business.

Which isn’t to say its bulletproof, since:

4. We’re Not Falling For It

Which means that we’re being, perhaps not just as loud but, as loud as we can be about it all being Bull Shit. To some this might come across as apologia and ignoring the actual wrongs the character has done, its not. What it is is disputing false accusations towards the character and towards ourselves. Its quoting Word Of God and citing canon and saying ‘hey, this interpretation doesn’t really match up with the themes of the show’. Its poking holes.

Which The Problem doesn’t like.

Which leads to doubling down on accusations towards the fans. ‘Racist/abuse apologist/etc’. Over a fictional character. This isn’t to say that no Izzy fan is (consciously or unconsciously) racist, though the same could be said for fans of any character, just that its not because of association with the character. Personally, I think there is more issue with removing the agency from a BIPOC character and making all their faults be the fault of their white henchman (and all their virtues being attributed to the influence of their white boyfriend), but that’s just me.

What it also leads to is death threats and suicide bait. Which, I don’t know about you, but I think that’s a much worse offense than ‘liking the wrong fictional character’.

The excessive vitriol (the anon hate, the doxxing, the death threats, the outlandish accusations) comes from the fact that we’re doing our damnedest to show that The Problem is an actual problem and they don’t like having the spotlight shining on their bad side.

Which leads me to my last point:

5. As Good Of A Solution As We’re Gonna Get (At Least Until Something Big Changes In Fan Culture As We Know It)

The best thing we can do, until something big changes, is to remove the spotlight entirely. Deplatform the worst of them as we’re able to, which means not debating and not correcting (This’ll be especially difficult for me, I like to argue lol. Though, if you’re like me, you could also make a separate post disputing the argument after you’ve blocked the original poster. Just make sure you don’t mention their name/@ when you do, otherwise you’re just giving them back their platform by giving people access to them again.), and block liberally.

Blocking is a solution to two problems: 1. It avoids the possibility of seeing bad faith takes that you might want to argue with, and 2. It keeps The Problem from having access to you. It also provides you with a way to report The Problem if they do that fun thing they like to do and go around blocks to get to you anyway.

I know I’m probably not saying anything we didn’t already know, but I think its a good thing to remind people (and myself) of sometimes. We’re not The Problem, we deserve to have a space where we can enjoy ourselves in the fandom without harassment, and we have at least some level of ability to make that possible. This is hardly the first or only fandom to be experiencing this sort of issue, but given its the fandom we’re in right now, we gotta do what we can to make sure its a safe one (Which means, anybody who isn’t experiencing this, but who isn’t speaking out about it? Maybe start doing that. Its not just us that need your help, its fandom as a whole. Many voices make changes.).

#the dork is being a dork #izzy hands #edward teach #stede bonnet #jim jimenez #lucius spriggs #oluwande boodhari #frenchie ofmd #there are simply too many ship names for me to tag here so i will not bother #i am tagging other popular characters because this is a fucking psa #hey #if you didn't know this shit was going on in the izzy enjoyer side of the fandom? #now you do #can yall give us a hand with this issue and call it out if you see it? #this is not debating whether or not the meta of 'izzy is a bigot' is a valid interpretation of the canon #AND I WILL NOT BE ENGAGING WITH REPLIES THAT APPROACH FROM THAT INTERPRETATION (FOR OR AGAINST) #where was this essay energy when i was in school lmfao

[dimiclaudeblaigan]

i just think it’s very nice that the very first lord who had his sexuality intensely debated at length between being asexual, bi or gay (and has zero (0) hetero endings in either game) is the one who ended up with this line 😌 

#DCB PoR Run #they just never confirmed his sexuality period in either game but also never gave him a het ending either #and his closest relationships are with males outside of people he considers family or who are family (i.e. Titania being like family) #so like it makes sense that people ACTUALLY were wondering like this was never an Eliwood and Hector situation where #fans shipped them bc they were close despite them having only het endings canonically #Ike just never had a paired ending with a female and only got endings with the two people closest to him who are both male #so like ofc people actually genuinely wanted him for rep when it wasn't just ''I ship this bc I like it'' but #actually seeing a lord who didn't need to have his canon ignored to be potentially LGBT #unfortunately IS never admitted bc back then it would have blown shit up to confess their most popular character in the franchise #and their most popular main character/lord wasn't straight lol. didn't help that he's a guy #but to this day they still haven't said shit bc they prob know at this point that there'd be backlash either way dhjfgsgjs #ike rly said ''im either going to spend the rest of my life with soren or a blue cat or alone but nobody else'' #ike was the og furry and im happy for him and my cat for that

[giudittas]

No but sara hess comments make so much sense after seeing episode 10, she was doing demage control 😭

#the writing room really thought they were telling another type of story #they probably were scared as shit seeing how daemyra was the most popular ship #I'm half joking but i honestly don't know how you can fucked up a character so bad #they probably thought oh let's show him killing his wife so people will hate him #they really didn't understand their core audience and the source material #hotd spoilers #house of the dragon

[after-nine-at-the-oasis]

yooo the rookie's trending :DDD

#I didn't know it was that popular on tumblr!!! #happy though :D #I need to catch up on it though so I can watch semi-live (I can't watch night of) #anyway yeah!!! #chenford will do that to people I suppose lol #XDD I mean we know that's the reason lol #not my top ever ship but I like it and I'm sure I'll love it more as I keep watching <3 #but good for y'all lol slfjghskfjdkls #the rookie #oasis's rookie chatter #I think that's what the tag will be #having a the there seems weird #idk we'll see xD #oasis's the rookie chatter #just in case

[hydrachea]

Give me the ship opinions on kaeluc ☆

ship ask game

Kaeluc: Ship It

What made you ship it? Kaeluc is actually one of the two Genshin ships that broke containment and reached me before I even started playing, so I already had a bias (that you, my dear friend, absolutely did not help). Then I started playing and the deal was easy to seal, wow, red/blue duo that had an intense falling out and have a tense relationship to this day, plenty of in-game pandering, and they're brothers? It was a losing battle from the start.

What are your favorite things about the ship? The angst they have is delicious, especially from Kaeya's side. Everything that went down the night Crepus died, the way he knew how Diluc would react but still went through with coming clean... And how he never blamed Diluc for it and cared for his Vision after he left Mondstadt, returning it safe to him when he came back... He cares! He cares!! I also love how well they know each other despite everything, and I love the thought of them possibly eventually making up. They have a whole arc and we're only in the middle of it, Hoyo keeps us so well-fed.

Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship? The whole "brothers vs sworn brothers" debate is pointless, both are true in the first place considering they are sworn brothers but were also raised together with Kaeya being adopted by Crepus, so pick whichever you like best and leave it at that. It really doesn't matter, just enjoy yourselves.

#ask #answer #feroluce #aka the person who got me into this ship before i even installed the game #i know what you did and so do you #not that it was hard i wasn't lying about the bias #what can i say i love incest and conflict #now for the fun fact: kaeluc did reach me long before either of us started playing #the discourse however somehow never reached me #so i only learned they were brothers when fero got into the game #which is objectively hilarious #i just didn't know i thought they were just another popular ship #genshin #kaeluc

[hardestgrove]

there’s a part of me that wants to ask for harrringrove content recs for people who don’t like harringrove bc while thankfully i’m basically back to neutral on it i still have a lotta “ugh” surrounding it from the advent of the ship that i’m still fighting from when i genuinely almost shipped it. but i just got fucking bombarded by so much of it that i couldn’t escape bc no one tagged, got exposed to the just shittiest “boil the white boys down to caricatures and make them kiss” shit that reminded me too much of other fandoms and bad experiences in rp around it to really get into it and it’s still haunting my exp around it.

like i only recently opted to even become a vocal billy stan bc i remember when i got into stranger things i was still rping on here and you’d see people be like “billy’s/pro-billy people do not interact” and the rp comm on here was already so toxic and ready to callout and cancel you for the smallest shit so i just.... didn’t lol. for years. 

but i also at times feel like the only billy stan who isn’t into harringrove and the billy tag can at times just feel like harringrove pt 2. so i feel a bit like i’m standing out front of chuck e cheese in the rain watching everyone have a good time.

i’d love to give it a shot again bc i have literally years of distance between me and my bad experiences with people who made me so iffy with it, i can understand the appeal and i wanna see more of that if just to appreciate people’s work. also like, despite the fact i could write a thousand page essay on why billy is god’s most perfect little boy i cannot fathom a world where steve’s into him lol like how???? when??? i would love to see how people get us there. a steve harrington who’s into billy??? i wanna study him in a lab.

but also if i just wander in on my own and pick up a fic on my own i might hit up against all the shit i don’t like and scuttle back into my cave for another decade.

#train.txt #like all my issues w/ the ship are either the complains i have about all popular gay ships on tumblr #(you know the ones and you know the type who do them) #or like no one TAGGED SHIT and i COULDN'T SEE MY MEMES or people around me who were just shit you know? #and sadly i have a brain that stores the ambient negativity around something with the thing lol rip #i have similar issues to the 'can't fathom x is into y' when i write my own characters too lol it's just a general issue i have sometimes #so i'd LOVE to see how ppl make it all work but sadly i cannot look at most things bc i might doom myself #also i'm REALLY iffy on a lotta variations on fanon!billy and steve. especially fanon!billy #he's just not.......... scrunkly enough you know? like sometimes i skim the x readers in the tag bc they're there and i'm just like #nope not billy he's too nice or he wasn't gross enough. he didn't crawl out of a ditch blaring dio it's not billy enough try again