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aha-chuu · 9 months
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I just wanted to voice yet another Neuvillette thought I had.
So, we don't know 100% if he's the Hydro Dragon, but all the evidence is pointing in that direction. And Genshin does have a distinction between dragons and the Dragon Sovereigns of each element (there only being seven Sovereigns with many vishaps (lesser dragons) all over). However, Enkonomiya lore states that the Hydro Dragon will be reborn as a human because the Hydro Vishaps are too impure/corrupted:
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This implies that the human Dragon of Water is also one of the new Sovereigns presently being born.
Okay awesome so Neuvillette is one of the cool, powerful dragons probably maybe. We already kinda knew that. Why am I thinking about it?
Apep is one of few remaining Sovereigns from thousands of years ago. Just to remind you of what she looks like:
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She's big. Like. Ah. She's way in the background and our crew is way in the foreground in that image. That means she is absolutely huge and we can't see all of her.
Which yes not every dragon is as huge as her. We have a few skeletons that are the size of islands but Zhongli and Dvalin are significantly smaller. Dvalin is still pretty big but whatever - he's actually specified to be small because he's so young at, uh, 2000 ish years old.
But there are two things I wanna point out. Firstly, this is what Neuvillette's constellation looks like:
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Big serpent thing just like Apep. Also similar to Zhongli's dragon form yup.
But my second thing is that Neuvillette is a Hydro Dragon, so water. All of the largest creatures on Earth are sea creatures. You know, blue whale being the biggest.
This creates a couple of opportunities. Perhaps Neuvillette, despite being born in "human form" as the lore states, might be able to transform into his dragon form. But in doing so he'd probably destroy the entirety of Fontaine city. I'm not even sure if the sea/lake of Fontaine is deep enough for him to transform.
On the other hand, if he can't transform into a proper dragon, can you imagine what the other really old peeps would think? Like they met the former Sovereign Hydro Dragon who was, you know, large enough to encompass a country a couple times over. They sense the energy of the new Hydro Dragon and it's just this teeny tiny human. No wonder his name is Neuvillette.
(there's also the possibility that he does have a dragon form, but that he's too young to be all that large (like Dvalin). In this case I would like to imagine Neuvillette has no real bearing on how much he will grow and Zhongli has been quietly hinting that he should enjoy the shallow waters while he can (Neuvillette thinks he's talking about the global warming/Fontaine prophecy)).
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shrewcafe · 7 months
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have some focallette fluff before they go thru divorce / neuvillette becomes widowed (idk) in the next genshin update!!!!1!1!
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burningparadiseduck · 7 months
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Neuvillette is the greenest green flag to ever exist in this green world.
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leflayartt · 6 months
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Sovereignty of Deception
(I have a lil headcanon that Morax is the original Geo Dragon Sovereign and just sniped the geo archon usurper and body snatched him to continue his reign of Liyue.)
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hydrachea · 7 months
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Genshin fans: So the archons are going to be only 2 men to 5 women? That's kind of uneven...
Mihoyo: Sorry, it is what it is.
Mihoyo in 4.2, giving Neuvillette his authority over Hydro back and straight-up destroying the very concept of the Hydro archon: SIKE.
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stainedglassthreads · 9 months
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So just to be clear, and to bring up an interesting dynamic: if Neuvillette is indeed the Dragon of Water, then he's not the original Dragon of Water. As the Bathysmal Vishap Experimentation Records found in Enkanomiya say, he's a reincarnation of the Dragon Sovereign of Water. Which means a) he was born a human and not a vishap, and b) he's probably one of the younger dragons. So he's been around for hundreds of years, but he's likely younger than Apep, Orobashi, Azhdaha, and Zhongli, being born sometime after Orobashi's death and Enkanomiya's fall. (So, at minimum, AFTER the Archon Wars.)
Can't say when, exactly, Neuvillette was born, but it would be very amusing to me if he were the very youngest dragon we've met, younger than the Calamity and Furina was actually older than him. That's just pure speculation for now, though. That's not even the only reason it'd be funny to me--people keep calling him Hydro Zhongli, so it'd be hilarious if despite being the grandfather of all the Melusines, he were a little baby hatchling to the other dragons.
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nemoys · 10 months
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AAAAA neuvillette being the hydro dragon freminet mentioned (mere 'fairy tale') he's such an emotionally interesting character to me i don't think i've ever wanted to write a 30 page google doc over a character like this since venti?? i'm so curious as to what he was upset over the day we arrived and met up with the siblings
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kittykalliarts · 6 months
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A little hc I guess or theory that I have that after the 4.2 archon quest, all hydro visions would have little draconic features that reflect the Neuvillette's sovereignty regardless where they get it ;w;
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zweetpea · 5 months
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coming 2024 (hopefully 🥲)
(In an epic trailer voice) You’ve heard the stories
“The princess has been taken away by the dragon!” A villager cried.
You know the tropes.
“Fear not for I will save her.” The handsome knight proclaimed.
But get ready to witness a twist on the timeless classic.
“My fair lady I’m here to rescue you!” The knight yells up to the fair princess as she reads in a turret.
“No thanks!”
“…what?…”
This isn’t your grandma’s fairytale.
“Another one?” The dragon asked.
“Yep.”
It’s the story of a girl who wanted to be left alone.
“Don’t get why they keep coming by. My sister is more than capable tot running the country.”
And a lonely dragon looking for a mate.
“I’m expecting a reward for scaring them off again.” He teased.
“In your dreams.” The princess rolled her eyes.
“A truer statement than you know.” He smirked.
They’ve come together, to get the world off their backs.
“No feeling.” She looked up at him
“No strings attached.” He looks down at her.
So what happens when they fall in love?
He leans down to her height as she leans up to him…
Read to find out!
(This is similar to a story I heard about, but didn’t dig too deeply into. It was about a girl who was living with this dragon who could become human, and it was a romance. If anybody knows what’s web comic or manga I’m talking about please comment the name so I can properly give credit)
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hypostatic-oath · 8 months
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OVERSEER BRAINROT
(This is like. Me rambling. This is poorly explained and my grasp on the canon lore is iffy but this is just how I imagine/will write the Overseer - aka the player - in SAGAU. This perspective will likely change as I understand more of the lore, but for now, here's some crumbs.)
Overseer whose role is, more than simply observing, to keep the canon going.
Experiencing the story, and that includes collecting characters and learning of their lore, exploring the world, building our teapot, etc is our reward for playing our role - and our role is to push the story forward. It doesn't progress without us. We're not Teyvat's creator, but we are the one making each of our worlds move (we're the mover we're the shaker we're the headline maker). If we did not take action, the twins never would've been separated - they would've stayed forever in that choosing screen, held permanently in that moment. If we had not chosen to walk forward and touch the statue, the Traveler would never have gotten the Anemo elemental powers. Would've never helped Dvalin. Signora would've never taken Venti's gnosis. Rex Lapis would never have "died". Every single other major event wouldn't happen.
The player is the being that makes the Canon Events happen - not directly, but through making sure that the story progresses. (Miguel O'Hara theme plays in the background.) And this can happen at whichever speed we decide.
Now, while the fact that we are the ones making the story go by could be used to argue that the Overseer would be the one to make the passage of time, that is not quite true. The days in Teyvat do not depend on the story progression. Months can pass before those two Fatui in Mondstadt (I love them) have any new gossip to share about current events, or they can pass through five new topics in a span of days, depending on how fast the player runs through the quests. Time is not the deciding factor in these characters' fates. It doesn't matter how long it's been since Signora died - Viktor (the Fatui guy at the Cathedral) will not be stationed at his new post unless the player finishes his comission. Teppei's condition won't worsen with time, either. If we don't continue the quest, we can stand next to him for weeks in game before he passes. Thus, I propose that the Overseer is more of a god of Fate (not to mention, the god of time position is taken). To add to this, the things we use to pull for characters are called Fates. Intertwined Fates, Acquaint Fates, both circle back to the same idea. Hangouts can be seen as a sort of exploration of this power - with the ability to choose one of five or six fates for that character (if only Character Quests had that too). It is, however, one of the few times we have control over which version of the story is told. Otherwise, we are mostly the energy that moves it along.
It's not just that it's a canon event and we cannot interfere - it's that it is literally our purpose to make sure it happens, even if we don't like it. We're here to witness and progress the story - and bad things can happen in stories, regardless of what the characters in it want. So right now I am having some Villain Overseer brainrot, not because they want to be evil on purpose, but because some character decides to pull a Miles Morales and say "I'mma do my own thing" and mess up the story's flow. For someone trying to change the course of the story, the force that pushes events forward is obviously Not Good. I can see Fontaine characters seeing the Traveler's arrival as an ill omen, a sign that the prophecy will come true. They're divided, because on one hand, the Traveler has a good reputation, someone helpful, kind, a hero. But the Overseer's attention signifies that events will inevitably unfold. So Lyney invites them to be part of a show. Furina threatens to arrest the Traveler. Navia asks them out for tea. As long as they can keep the Overseer's attention on other matters, the event they dread won't happen. (I won't talk much abt Neuvillette rn becayse spoilers)
Enter eventual Arlechinno boss fight (it hasn't happened yet, but I do hope we get one) - she's the one who tries to fight the Traveler head on, to personally put a stop to it once and for all. Perhaps the Overseer has no ill will, but that doesn't matter. Not when their presence means that the clock is ticking faster and faster every day.
Now for a more lighthearted thought, Isekai'd Overseer who doesn't really have a concept of urgency. No important event will occur without them present, so they have no qualms in arriving on the day after the scheduled date, confident that as long as it is between 18:00 - 23:00 the reservation will still be placed and people will be at their seats as if it was always meant to be that way.
So the Overseer walks into a bar, with a face too fresh for someone who hasn't slept in what the people of Teyvat percieve to have been months, just coming in from the Spiral Abyss, and asks the bartender where their friends are.
"I don't know? Master Kaeya usually shows up at this hour, but the rest of your usual group is probably tending to their affairs."
"Odd. They were supposed to be here by now. We had a big dinner planned." The person in front of him, who Charles is more and more sure definitely looks somewhat off in a way he can't quite pinpoint, seems confused. "There was a reservation and everything. In Kaeya's name, I believe."
"Well, I'm sorry, but the last reservation Master Kaeya placed here was a month ago."
"Again, weird. He said he was going to place one. Oh, well. When the others get here, just let them know I'll be on one of the big tables upstairs, alright? And you can put everything on my tab."
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saccharinerose · 8 months
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"Abruptly visiting could pose an unpredictable risk" he says but I think Neuvillette just doesn't want to get an earful from Apep.
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burningparadiseduck · 7 months
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The fact that Neuvillette has consistently been put in a villain pose for every Fontaine version is hilarious and a bit suspicious to me.
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k-chips · 6 months
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We literally still don't know anything about Neuvillette and they want me to believe our time in Fontaine ended???? HELL NO.
If Scaramouche had a whole archon quest about him, with all of his story from start to finish, they HAVE TO do the same thing with the fucking SOVEREIGN HYDRO DRAGON.
When and where was he born? Did he just spawn somewhere in Fontaine, with a human adult body and full dressed, or was he once a kid as well?
Did he saw the Khaenri'ah disaster? Does he know something about it? He said he never saw our sibling so it could mean he wasn't around at the time our twin and Dain traveled through Teyvat.
Is the big ass snake-looking skeleton (Elynas) in the middle of Fontaine, where all the Melusines are originated and (some of them) live in, the old Hydro Dragon? Or is it just another beast from the Abyss? If it's not the past Hydro Dragon, why does Neuvillette have such a special bond with the Melusines?
Is he really the "Visitor" Pahsiv mentioned? The one who would be affected by the purple pollution in the water and in the roots of the willow? (If I remember correctly. But it could be just because, you know, he drinks water lol)
Does he have all of his memories back now? Are they fully restored? And what exactly are these memories? Is the old Hydro Dragon literally his past life?
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I really hope we'll get another quest about him but I fear Hoyo won't tell us much and will keep all the details about Sovereign Dragons for the future, maybe even for the end :(
BUT. AT LEAST. I hope we won't get any more "human" Sovereign, I hope Neuvillette will still be the exception. It would be predictable and kinda boring if there were other dragons born with a human body
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asbestos-11 · 6 months
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about vishaps
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genshin-brained · 6 months
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I've seen multiple interpretations of Childe's thumbs down gesture in the Archon Quest but Hoyoverse releasing this sticker has gotta be the funniest take on it.
"Hey losers" *proceeds to pass out*
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yaeggravate · 9 months
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EVERYONE NEEDS TO WAKE UP RIGHT NOW
edit: unfortunately, new footage shows that when neuvilette's charged attack doesn't hit any enemies, the stars don't appear... so it might just be a random impact effect that vaguely resembles the star.
HOWEVER... footage from the live stream* shows that stars DO appear when he's powering up his charged attack and interestingly enough, they're surrounded by purple ousia energy even though neuvilette is a pneuma aligned character.
*it should be noted that footage from the live stream isn't indicative of the final product
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