#everybody album promo

[venomousnakes]

131108 Global Show Request: A Song For You — SHINee 'Symptoms' live

#131108 #shinee #ot5 #onew #lee jinki #jinki #kim jonghyun #jonghyun #kim kibum #kibum #key #choi minho #minho #lee taemin #taemin #a song for you #shows #everybody lookbook #everybody era #everybody album promo #upload #shinee symptoms #vocals

[1dhq]

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#sorry for the seemingly unprovoked rant #but i promise it‘s not unprovoked: #the amount of people i have seen #complaining about louis' album rollout #and the promo cycle #is absolutely laughable #the number of prestigious magazines he‘s been in alone is unprecedented #and yeah we all want that number 1 for him #but the man broke his damn arm #and so the signings are off the table boo hoo #what is holding people back from channelling that energy into #literally anything else #buy stream make noise on social media #so many people are rallying behind him #this is truly not 'as always' #so shut the fuck up #okay i‘m cool i‘m calm… #good morning everybody

[ms-demeanor]

Also I have to say "but bands are using AI art for their album covers" is not a winning argument.

That band wasn't going to pay you. That band was going to beg somebody's artist brother for a freebie or they were going to have the people in the band who can kind of draw draw something or they were going to use a moody photo someone took with their cellphone. Best possible scenario is "they were going to trade for something from someone in the scene," and this is still the most likely scenario for bands that *give a shit* about that kind of thing.

And I've been the one doing freebie artwork for my musician friends; I've made album covers and done promo shoots, I've drawn logos and I've got a standing offer to make buttons for the cost of materials for every band I've ever played a show with. The people who give a shit in the scene are already doing this because everybody knows that everybody's broke.

I'm certain that there's not *zero* overlap between "bands that can afford to pay artists and photographers to create album artwork" and "bands that are using AI art for their album covers" but if you think "indie musician" is a demographic that has money to spare on commissioned artwork, I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.

Like. Okay, I mean my *big* argument is that AI image generation is fair use, full stop.

But the secondary argument that I've got is that I'm not sure there's a market to have the bottom fall out of.

The person making shitty covers for their amazon romance novel was not going to pay you. They were going to pay someone on fiverr eight dollars *at best* and that's only if they couldn't find a way to DIY.

That band that's trying desperately to sell ten tickets so they can play a show at the cool venue was not going to pay you to do their cover art. Their last fifty bucks just went to covering those tickets because their friends aren't even coming to their free shows. They were going to stage a photoshoot with a cellphone and a timer and someone's sister's selfie stick.

That person who made an AI avatar was not going to pay you for a custom avatar they were going to take a screenshot of your work and use that.

The people who are able to afford to pay artists and who are interested in paying artists are not the people who are replacing artists with AI. The t-shirt dropshippers, the shitty book cover designers, the bland corporate artists, and the art reposting instagram pages were the ones who undercut your market.

If you're concerned that someone is going to use AI to make art that is materially similar to yours and sell it, you're just concerned that someone is going to make art that is materially similar to yours to sell. The concerns about AI doing it are functionally exactly the same as what happens when someone says "wow, I want that on a t-shirt" under your drawing. If someone were to draw a character similar to but distinct from yours with words similar to but distinct from yours and put a link to that on a reblog of your post, that person is not actually infringing on you. They're a shithead, but that's not actually art theft. If they used your character and your words, or if they directly copy the image, that's art theft and you can try to get their post taken down. It's the exact same thing with AI.

The people who care about art and can afford to pay for it are always going to pay for it. Your problem isn't with AI, your problem is with the fact that people don't value art and that's as true now as it was a decade ago.

You are trying to sell a complicated, crocheted sundress made with 100% hand-dyed alpaca wool on Etsy and are complaining that the loose knit acrylic sundress from walmart is undercutting your market. Some people are always going to make the effort to save up and pay for your work because they value the craftsmanship, but those people didn't want to shop at WalMart in the first place. And the ones who value your craftsmanship but just plain can't afford it were going to dig through the bins at a thrift store until they found a crocheted swim cover from the seventies that they could pass off as a dress with a few alterations.

[theoutcastrogue]

[From a 2014 article by John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats. He's talking about how a random spam email ended up inspiring a part of his book Wolf in White Van. Later, in 2020, the album Getting Into Knives came out, and I think it inspired its artwork too.]

"It took years for me to be able to just reflexively delete spam, or filter it so that I never see it at all. I blame the spammers for this; the quality of their work took a sharp nosedive at some point. But during whatever period of the internet’s growth you’d call the early 2000s, it seemed like you’d still get some winners: things that had been typed up by a person, sent out to a bunch of email addresses they’d bought or rented for 5 or 10 bucks from the only guy who was ever going to make any money in this particular exchange. Most of them went directly, if manually, into the trash; but once in a while, there’d be one that seemed to earn, at the very least, the minute it’d take me to read it.

The one I’m remembering here was subject-lined SUPPLY OF KNIVES. [...] The subject line opened on an all-caps email that boasted, in ornate, antiquated English appealing to the reader’s more refined sensibilities, about the high quality of the knives on offer at an external website. You shouldn’t click on links in spam email. I live my life on the razor’s edge! I clicked the link.

I want to tell you about these knives: They were beautiful. They were weird. They had elaborate designs in the handles, moons or stars of wolf heads, and special grips, and a variety of points. They were made from metals whose pedigrees were described lovingly, and had been struck — smithed? wrought? — via processes I knew absolutely nothing about, but that sounded fantastic, difficult, arcane. It’s the joy of specialized language: When you’re an outsider to it, it can’t help but sound cool.

Of course this is the whole idea of any operation like this. SUPPLY OF KNIVES could well have been, and probably was, a company in Ohio who’d stumbled across an old warehouse full of knives, and knew enough about sales to describe these things in the most exotic terms they could find. I’m pretty immune to pitches: Who likes to feel like he’s being pitched? But somebody involved with SUPPLY OF KNIVES had had just enough authorial flair — that, or true faith — to caption each knife’s mysterious, blurry accompanying JPEG with a description whose constant recourse to specialized vocabularies seemed to say, “You’re not even reading this unless you already know about this sort of thing. Let us therefore speak like the fellow travelers we are.”

It was like a trade catalog for roadside bandits in need of knives.

I can’t speak for everybody, but I know that when I was a child the life of the roadside bandit seemed like a pretty romantic way to go. I looked at all these knives and read the descriptions and was just generally delighted about the whole thing, so I saved the email in a “memorable spam” folder I used to keep that had maybe two other emails in it. A few years later, Apple came out with this robotic-arm-screen iMac you never see any more, and we were long overdue for a new computer so we got that; and then, after a while, I got myself a laptop, because I was traveling all the time, and eventually both the old iMacs ended up in the basement, and they were both asleep but alive until fairly recently, as far as I knew.

But when I went to check for the email, it was gone. The old blue iMac is dead, bricked, lifeless. Searches on the term “supply of knives” on this laptop and on good old robot-arm-screen find nothing. The backup CD for the blue iMac drive is probably in a drawer around here somewhere, but that’s like saying, “The coin I had in my swim trunks’ pocket is probably somewhere in the ocean.” There is no SUPPLY OF KNIVES. There’s only the memory."

[source]

And this is the wonderful cover art of Getting Into Knives. Back cover and promo material below. Note that "Knives International" and "Knives Wordwide" are not real companies, they appear to be a callback to that elusive spam email.

#not that I'm particularly into TMG #but it's interesting #trs #The Mountain Goats #John Darnielle #Getting Into Knives #Wolf in White Van #only knives left #tools of the trade #bandit #prison ballads #tangentially

[astrophysicist-guitar-god]

Behind the scenes pictures of Queen on iconic I Want to Break Free music video gives extraordinary glimpse into closeness of the band

The fascinating pictures show the band fooling around on the video shoot 

By DAN SALES

Published: 03:42 EST, 24 September 2023 | Updated: 04:20 EST, 24 September 2023 (x)

Never-before-seen pictures of Queen making the trailblazing I Want To Break free music video shows the incredible bond between the band members. Candid images - all shot by veteran photographer Simon Fowler - show the sheer joy and fun of the group during the now-legendary filming of the promo. The video stunned music fans when it came out and had the rockers dressed up as housewives in a suburban home. In one of the newly-revealed pictures the band are shown in hysterics, with one crewmember wiping away tears of laughter as Freddie Mercury fools around behind a bewigged John Deacon. Freddie appears to be pretending to be a hairdresser as John chuckles in his seat, as Brian May beams by a back wall as they stare into the mirror at their new look. Later Brian can be seen clutching his curlers as he gazes into the distance as he is captured on film. Roger Taylor also looks to be having a ball in one of the archive pictures, pouting in his schoolgirl-style costume. Photographer Simon, who took pictures of the group throughout their career, opened up his archives to allow MailOnline to publish some of the incredible shots.

The band are seen having a great laugh backstage as they get ready to shoot the video promo

Roger Taylor in costume pouts as his picture is taken on the set of I Want To Break Free in 1984

He said he had no idea the theme of the video before he had turned up at Limehouse Studios in London to take the pictures. Simon recalled: 'On Break Free I didn't get any idea of what it was going to be. I turned up and saw them and thought "Whoa, what is going on?". 'It was obviously a pastiche of Coronation Street. I remember on the day everybody was just fooling around laughing. 'It was so much fun that I was amazed that they actually got a video done. 'They had no concerns about doing anything that was unusual - they would just do it. 'They were just messing around in between the filming. I remember one funny moment when they were trying the stuff on and asking each other "what do you reckon of this wig?". 'That was the great thing about it, you have got Freddie with his big old 'tache, giving it all. 'It was without doubt the most fun shoot I have done. 'Every time I think about it I smile, the day just went so fast because everyone was having such a good time - it just whizzed by.

Simon revealed that the band preferred to be photographed all together for their promo shots

Brian May looks like he has awoken from a deep sleep with the curlers in this of Simon's shots

'When you get there I didn't know the story and the PR told me and I thought "that sounds great". 'I went backstage and the first thing I saw was them getting all their clobber done.' Simon had photographed the band before after getting a phone call during the recording of their Hot Space album. That record spawned the Under Pressure anthem and at first the photographer admits he had no idea who he would be going to shoot. He recalled: 'I got a call out of the blue to do a job and originally thought they had said Cream at the time, which I thought couldn't have been right. 'Back in those days you would get millions of calls. I only realised later it was Queen and I was told I would only get ten minutes with them and it turned into three hours. It was for the album Hot Space. 'I think we just got on pretty well - I wasn't expecting much time at all and it was brilliant. 'Roger actually got me to do a bit of tapping when they were recording. I like to think I'm on Hot Space somewhere. It just went from there really.' The band loved his work so he was invited back and ended up doing numerous shoots with them.

John Deacon - whose character in the video was miserable - laughs in a moment of down time

Freddie Mercury poses up on the set, leaning on a cabinet as he looks to the side of the room

But he counts his work on I Want to Break Free as one of the most exciting jobs of his career. He admitted: 'I knew when I got called in for it, that it was going to be interesting. 'They wouldn't scrimp on stuff with the videos, they were big productions. If CGI was around then I am sure that would be what they were doing. 'When you were on set you would have to have eyes in the back of your head in some of the bigger productions, where there were cranes and stuff going round.  'When we went for lunch Brian was on the catering bus talking to me. He was still in the outfit with the curlers. 'I remember thinking "that's Brian May opposite me". It was so surreal. 'At the end of the day we saw the cut and it just looked great. 'I remember John taking a nap during the day, which he would have needed because the reality is they would have got there very early. 'They were trailblazers with videos, they really were. Queen were so unique in whatever they did. Brian with the sound and the guitar. I loved every minute of it 

Veteran music photographer Simon Fowler is selling prints in aid of the Mercury Phoenix Trust

'Freddie was a trooper right up until the end. One of the things people don't notice about pictures of Queen is that you could never often get them out of the line-up 'They would not often move out of all four of them together for pictures. 'I think that's because they were a band but they were also incredible close friends too. 'They all had each others backs, none of them thought of themselves as the star - they were all equals.' The behind-the-scenes pictures were brought back into the spotlight as Simon as he compiled Fine Art Prints of Freddie, Brian, Roger and John from The Miracle shoot. They are being sold to help the fight against HIV and AIDS, with 50 per cent of proceeds going to the Mercury Phoenix Trust. Simon added: 'I was thrilled to do this and just give something back and help a really great cause. 'I was delighted by the response and hope it can keep helping people.' (x)

Prints of Freddie, Brian, Roger and John from The Miracle shoot can be found here 

#Brian May #my guitar god love #before anyone gets too excited .. this is from 2023 #found this while I was *hoping* to find the unreleased pics mentioned the other day #GOOD ARTICLE! #Roger Taylor #John Deacon #Freddie Mercury #Queen #Queen: Academia #once again I am wishing for a time machine

[jokeroutsubs]

📝ENG Translation: Joker Out in Helsinki

Article written by L.P./Promo, published on Croatian website tportal on 4.3.2024, English translation by @moonlvster and IG ireena25_, Proofread by IG GBoleyn123.

PHOTO: Vita Orehek

Joker Out played two unreleased songs in Helsinki – and it caused complete uproar!

The band Joker Out began their big European 'See You Soon' tour with two sold out concerts in Helsinki.

The Finnish audience, besides having the honour of opening the band's new tour, recieved a special gift they weren't expecting – the first performance of two completely new songs that caused an unseen hysteria in the fans! The effect was even stronger because both of the songs are in Serbian and most of the audience didn't understand a single word.

"We performed two unreleased songs for the first time in Helsinki – 'Šta bih ja' ('What would I') and 'Bluza' ('Blouse'). It's not necessary to point out that Finns don't understand the Serbian language, but the reaction was as though we were playing our absolute most popular songs. We were just looking at each other and smiling. When we returned to our hotel we saw that the reaction online was the same as the one we had experienced at the concert. A group of our fans at JokerOutSubs even activated and translated both of the songs into English using video recordings. Commenters on social media are asking us to release the songs, but they will have to wait a little because we are going to record them after the tour." – stated the band enthusiastically.

In mid-February Joker Out released their new single 'Everybody's Waiting', the sucessor of their amazing 'Sunny Side Of London'. They are going to, together with 'Šta bih ja' and 'Bluza' (which is currently a working title), be featured on the band's next studio album.

Joker Out sold all the tickets for the House of Culture in Helsinki, which means there were more than 3000 fans there. Ahead of them is a long tour that continues tommorow in Tallinn, and then in Riga, Vilnius, Krakow, Berlin, Leipzig, Malmö and many more cities. This tour, called 'See You Soon', encompasses 13 countries, including France, Belgium and Italy for the first time, with 22 concerts in some legendary, world-famous concert venues, for example, the O2 Shepherds Bush Empire.

Some of their festival appearences have also been announced, which include Sea Star Festival (23rd-26th May, Umag, Croatia), EXIT (10th-14th July, Novi Sad, Serbia) and Sziget (7th-12th August, Budapest, Hungary), at which the local fans will have the chance to hear 'Everybody's Waiting', 'Šta bih ja' and 'Bluza' live for the first time!

❗ DO NOT REPOST, and if you quote, please link back to this article.

#joker out #jokeroutsubs #bojan cvjetićanin #kris guštin #jan peteh #nace jordan #jure maček #heyyy we got noticed by the senpais!! 😆😆😆

[strawnarrries]

Heaven

Summary: Niall is away doing promo for Heaven and you miss him in more ways than one.

Requested: No but I'm always open!

POV: 2nd

Warning(s): Phone sex, masturbation, dirty talk

The phone rang three times before his face popped up on your screen, a grin planted on his lips, "Hey baby!"

"Hi," you mimicked his grin, happy to see his face.

Niall had been in LA doing promo for his new single Heaven as well as his upcoming album. He was going to be gone for a total of five weeks and you knew you were going to miss him like crazy. It had been years since you and Niall were long-distance. It was something you two went through pretty often while he was in the band and as well as his first solo tour. Because of Covid, you have had him all to yourself for almost three years now, so you knew it would be hard for him to leave again.

You would have gone to LA with him, but neither of you wanted to go through the hassle of taking your almost two-year-old son on the road, as well as risking him being seen by the public. Once Niall had officially canceled his tour for Heartbreak Weather, you had decided it was the perfect time to start the family you both had been wanting so dearly. Everybody knew it would be a while before things were back to normal, so you knew Niall would be home long enough to be with you throughout your entire pregnancy and the beginning stages of his little one's life.

During that time, he continued to write music, perfecting each song he wrote. Three years later, he realized how much he missed it. He missed interacting with all his fans, going to award shows, and being on tour. All three of you were at a good place for him to get back into the groove of things and start releasing new music, so he did.

"I miss my hubby," you pouted, watching as he started up the car and began driving to your LA home.

"Aw, I miss ya too. What time is it there?"

"Like midnight."

"What'rya doin' up?"

"I couldn't sleep," you hummed softly.

"Somethin' wrong?" he asked concernedly.

"I just miss you," you replied, your voice deepening slightly.

You missed him; every single part of him. It had been about two weeks since you had last seen him. You missed his touch, his lips, the way he made you feel. You wanted him so bad. You were laying down on his side of the bed, the smell of his shampoo coating his pillow and filling your senses, arousing you even more than you already were.

"Just a few more weeks and I'll be home," he soothed.

"No Niall, I mean I miss you in more ways than one," you replied, slightly frustrated that he wasn't picking up on your hints.

"Oh, I see," he smirked, "yer tryna have phone sex wit' me!"

"Niall!" you groaned into your pillow.

"'s been years since we done that, babe," he teased and you rolled your eyes, "well, 'm on me way home and I've got a few hours before me next interview so I think I can squeeze ya int' me schedule."

"You're so annoying," you teased.

He giggled and began asking you about your day while he drove home. You spoke back and forth, telling each other about your days; you spoke about the funny things your son had done and he spoke about the interviews he already attended. It took him about 45 minutes to get home, LA traffic was not on your side today but once he pulled into the garage, you began to get antsy.

"Are ya naked?" he asked as he walked through the door, setting down his things and taking off his shoes.

"No," you replied.

"Go ahead and get naked fer me," he ordered and you immediately obeyed, taking off every piece of clothing you had on.

It wasn't much later that he was up in the bedroom, discarding his clothing as well, getting as excited as you are, "Makin' me feel like a teenager again, babe."

"I miss you so much," you whispered desperately.

You couldn't resist the urge any longer. You reached your hand down to your throbbing center, fingers pressed against your clit and rubbing back and forth.

"Ya touchin' yerself?" he asked.

"Yeah," you whimpered.

"Wanna see ya, prop yer phone up."

You did as you were told, grabbing his pillow from his side of the bed and setting it down by your feet. You propped your phone up against it, doing your best to put it at the perfect angle for him to see, but still make it look sexy, "Dunno how I ever made this sexy."

"Yer always sexy," he smirked.

After flicking on the bedside table light so he could see you better, you leaned back on your left hand to support your body up. You spread your legs again and resumed your activities while he groaned, "Fuckin' hell, yer soaked. Been thinkin' of me?"

"Mhm, all day. Do you like watching me touch myself?"

"Yes, yer so hot."

He positioned his phone in a similar way as you did, revealing himself to you. His hand was wrapped around his member, already throbbing in anticipation. Once comfortable, he began moving his hand up and down, biting his lip as he watched you please yourself.

Your jaw went slack as you quickened your pace. You could already feel your orgasm growing, in desperate need of a release. You imagined your fingers were his, calloused tips moving back and forth across your clit, sending waves of pleasure throughout your body.

"Talk t' me. What do you wanna do t' me when you get home?" you hummed, wanting to hear his voice.

"Jesus," he groaned, "Everything, babe, I wanna do everything t' ya. I wanna kiss ya and taste ya. Wanna feel you wrapped around me cock. Gonna be so tight fer me once I get home, I just know it."

You whimpered his name as your head lolled to the side, "You always make me feel so good. I wish you were here with me."

"Me too. Not much longer and me fingers will be right where yers are," he breathed out, "Can ya stick one inside of ya?"

You hummed in response, moving south and circling your dripping entrance with the tip of your middle finger. You lifted your head up and watched as you easily slipped it in, feeling just how wet you are. You moved it in and out of you, the sound of your wetness filling the room and Niall cursed to himself. You let out a moan and your eyes fluttered closed.

"Jesus Christ, dis's so hot," he groaned, mostly to himself, "'s it feel good?"

With each entrance, you curled your fingers up, just like he would do. His fingers were much better than yours, longer and able to reach all your special spots. You made yourself feel good, but there was something about Niall's touch that you couldn't fulfill yourself, "Mhm, but not as good as when you do it."

"I know yer body better than ya know yer own, don't I?" he smirked smugly.

You hummed in response, watching as his hand moved up and down his member, squeezing tighter once he got to the tip, precum oozing out with each squeeze. Your mouth watered as you watched him, missing the way he whimpered when you wrapped your lips around him.

"I want you inside me so bad," you whined, your head lolling back again, "You fill me up so perfectly, Ni. I feel so empty right now."

"I'd kill t' be inside ya right now. I miss how ya feel around me. Always so wet and warm, fuck," he breathed out in response.

You laid back down on your back, your hips instinctively bucking up into your hand. You slipped your finger out of your entrance and began spreading your wetness. Landing on your clit again, you moved the tip of your finger back and forth at a more rapid pace, your orgasm drawing closer and closer by the second.

"'m gonna cum," you whimpered softly.

"Do it, baby. Wanna see ya cum all over yer fingers," he encouraged, his voice deep and raspy.

Only a few seconds later and you could feel the tight band in your stomach begin to unravel. Your orgasm took over your entire body, crashing over you with waves of pleasure. Your back arched and your toes curled as your body was numbed with pleasure. You struggled not to moan, not wanting to wake up your son but you couldn't help the small whimpers that left your lips. Not long after you, you heard the deep groans of your husband on the phone, signaling he had just released too. The sounds of his sexy moans carried you through the end of your orgasm, your body slowly relaxing back into the soft sheets beneath you.

You both lay there in comfortable silence while you regained your breath. You soon reached down and grabbed your phone, pulling the covers up to your neck and watching as he did the same.

"'member dat one time we were havin' phone sex and Harry walked in on us," he giggled at the memory of when he was in One Direction.

"Oh gosh Niall, don't even bring that up, I was so embarrassed."

"'m just glad it was Harry and not Louis."

"I probably would've never visited you on tour ever again if it was Louis," you chuckled softly.

"Yer so cute," he grinned as you blushed slightly before he shifted the conversation, "Ya feel better?"

You shook your head.

"No?" he asked.

"Mm mm. I still miss you."

"Few more weeks. I promise. Now get some sleep."

You yawned, "okay."

"Goodnight, baby. I love ya," he hummed softly.

"Goodnight. I love you, Ni."

#my writing #niall #niall horan #one direction #niall one shot #niall smut #niall writing #niall fanfic #niall fanfiction #niall horan one shot #niall one shots #niall horan one shots #niall horan smut #niall horan writing #niall horan fanfic #niall horan fanficion #one direction one shot #one direction smut #one direction writing #one direction fanfic #one direction fanfiction #smut #writing #one shot #one shots

[titsthedamnseason]

i honestly do not understand this never ending conversation about tay’s lack of promo. i know to some people the success / numbers is a big part of stan culture meanwhile im truly just here to enjoy the music so maybe that’s why i don’t get it. but regardless, the artist in question is TAYLOR SWIFT? yes for smaller artists there is maybe more concern about charting and numbers but i have literally zero doubt that ttpd will debut at number 1 and quite frankly, i doubt taylor does either. her fame has surpassed the need for promo. i don’t think there’s anyone that would be even slightly interested that doesn’t know she has an album dropping

i also think the people complaining / worrying about the lack of promo are severely undervaluing the merits of the subtle promo strategy. like i said, at this point in her career taylor doesn’t need to worry about getting listeners, but probably if she was doing more promo that would definitely cause backlash. and if she released a lead single ahead of time it would just give people the opportunity to make judgements and write up criticisms and possibly deter certain people from listening to the rest because they would feel they heard enough and imagine the rest would be the same. instead, she’s building massive anticipation. everybody is going to be listening bc she’s been so cryptic about it that no one knows what to expect. sometimes no promo IS the best promo.

and lastly, i think another big part of why certain swifties want a massive promo campaign is the desire for more “content” from taylor. i think this is inherently problematic regardless but especially with an album dealing with such personal emotional pain, i understand why she might not want to go on a massive campaign talking about it. instead, she’s having a great week hanging out with her new boyfriend at coachella and knowing that is making me way happier than if she was suiting up doing interviews every night. let’s all please try to stop exploiting taylor and demanding things of her and instead remember that she’s also just a human that has a right to live her life as she chooses, even during an album release week

#this is mostly about twitter not tumblr #but i needed to rant SOMEWHERE #mine #taylor swift

[jakowskis]

torchwood resources

just some stuff i've accumulated during this fixation :) hope it proves handy :D

ianto's-desktop (livejournal) - archived most of the things found on the torchwood website during season 1 and season 2; the only thing missing is the videos. / note: click the headers of the posts to see the full thing, or some stuff with appear incomplete. took me a sec to figure out, lol

speaking of the website...

season 1 website (archive.org)

season 2 website (archive.org) - unlike the s1 website, the bulk of the s2 site's content is pretty inaccessible through the wayback machine (at least for me; maybe i'm doing something wrong), so thank g-d for ianto's desktop

there's also a good amount of rebloggable site content in this person's tumblr tag.

season 1 declassified (youtube)

season 2 declassified (youtube)

season 1 commentaries (mega.nz)

torchwood books (google drive) - gonna be honest, i haven't tried to download any of these myself

border princes audiobook (read by eve) + all of the radio plays (archive.org)

torchwood magazines (beta.reddit) - download links for all of them! p fuckin kewl

torchwood official yearbook (archive.org)

herecomesthedrums (youtube) - account that started posting before the show came out and is chock full of promos, trailers, interviews... some real fun goodies in there

torchwood: up close (youtube) - handful of bts videos with the cast + crew

season 1 unreleased tracks (soundcloud) - the end of days ones hrhghgh

out of time unreleased tracks (soundcloud) - i absolutely adore the music in this ep so i was so happy when i found these

the torchwood fanpop - this has sooooooo much content like i scrolled for a loooooong time and never reached the bottom. lotta stuff i hadn't seen before, too. there's fun hd promo pics, pics of the cast, and a lot of extremely early 2010s edits, graphics, and fanvids. / note: i also had this page bookmarked + it's got different content than the main page so i'll link it

aaand under the cut i'm gonna dump some silly stuff i've collected of the cast. but yeah, there ya go :-)

gally 2015: zip files of someone's pictures of eve, naoko, and burn (livejournal)

gally 2015: someone's account of the torchwood panels + meeting the cast (everyone was there but gareth!) - naoko & burn's solo panels / autograph table chats + barrowman photo-op + the naoko&burn&eve group panel / barrowman solo panel + burn&eve joint panel

dragon con 2013 (flickr) - i found two albums: this one, and this one, which has torchwood cast images on the first and second pages.

burn at chicago tardis 2012 (flickr) - ehehe 2012-2013 burn gorman w his classy little outfits my beloved. this is just hq pictures of that event. burn's in a bunch at the top and some at the end of the second page

the hub 2009 (flickr) - some kind of torchwood event. gareth, burn, eve, kai, and tom are all there. i dunno

hvff 2018: 'insights from the whole cast'

hvff 2018: video of everybody goofing off (twitter)

gareth endorsing owandy teehee (twitter) - this is getting dumped here bc im gay

sigh. (blogspot) - pics from that one fuckin 08 panel where gareth & john made out like 5 times + gareth took his jeans off for some reason. i don't even go here but i feel like this is unfortunately historically relevant. also the fujoshis in the comments are really funny

incomplete but sizable lists of cons gareth's been to and john's been to, in case anyone wants to dig around for photos/footage of any of these. the other cast members (excluding burn, for some reason) all have pages on this site as well, but theirs are super incomplete so i won't bother linking

#torchwood #mine #txt #torchwood posting #might update w more #ohhhh internet archive my beloved #... ngl i am hoarding some other stuff. but woohoo this means i can delete one of my laptop folders hehehee

[cialovesklopp]

𝐀𝐌𝐀𝐑𝐀’𝐒 𝐑𝐄𝐍𝐀𝐈𝐒𝐒𝐀𝐍𝐂𝐄

𝒔𝒖𝒎𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒚 — in which a new era begins and losts of secrets will be released along with teases: welcome in amara imani’s renaissance

𝒕𝒂𝒈𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒕 — @aechii @charlesleclerciatheloveofmylife @locedes @lorarri

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AMARA IMANI’S RENAISSANCE HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN! Not only did the nigerian singer create some havoc in her fan bases with her last two singles (thank u, next; in my head) but she completely broke the world when she announced the incoming of her new album mon amour.

of course, the news not only announced her official comeback but she also confirmed that she was not done with her career and the music industry. Though the expectations are high now — it’s not only her fan base that is expecting her, nearly every one is. after all, her second album was rather forgettable in comparison to her first one. And adding to that, the amount of scandals, the singer left the world with: all eyes will be on her and expecting her in these coming days.

What might be feeling her though could be that her ex-boyfriend Evan Henderson and partner Kaia Gerber are seen less and less in public which might be normal for some but not for us — not after witnessing their honeymoon phase that lasted for over five months.

And might we add, that this is only the beginning of her better days. whereas two years ago Imani declined to perform her song at the grammys, sources are claiming that she will be the one to open them along and apparently, a headline for coachella is also in the talking?

Those are big responsibilities to come for Imani — Will she be able to hold her end of the deal?

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username opening the Grammys and getting a headline for coachella in the same year is a bit much for a person who just came back. she’s clearly overrated

username thank u next was definitely a bop and showed everyone who she was so I think she should manage everything

username either way people will critize and analyse her no matter what she does so, we’ll just see i guess.

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𝐈𝐍𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐆𝐑𝐀𝐌

𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐚.𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐢

amara.imani for the time you gave me flowers

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graceywood i did not approve of this promo, stop spoiling the entire song

amara.imani oops

username JUST TELL US PLEASE WHO’S YOUR NEW BOYFRIEND?

username we promise we won’t stalk him or do any threatening

username the fact her new boyfriend is already five times better than evan and WE DON’T EVEN KNOW HIM

beyoncé i can’t wait for everybody to hear this masterpiece, very glad to have been a part

liyah_clark SEND ME ANOTHER TEASER PLEASE (charles stole my phone to listen to it and now the entire grid wants to hear more)

charles_leclerc it wasn’t my fault, i already told you lando stole my phone and then he gave it to daniel who made everyone listen

amara.imani did lewis listen to it

lewishamilton i did and i loved it. excited for more to come

amara.imani @liyah_clark i’ll send you the whole song

graceywood 😐

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arianagrande waiting for the release of it 💋

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username if i die after listening to this album, i can say i died happily

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[9w1ft]

so many signs

so i had this thing in the back of my mind that i wanted to share a little bit about, because i think it’s highlights a little bit of karlie’s easter egging prowess

so as many of you know, i have had a certain piece of jewelry identification that’s been top of mind for awhile. a mysterious (and hilarious) evil eye necklace that karlie first wore on her birthday last year, august 3rd, 2022:

it took a long while to identify but with the help of @kwyw and @corneliastvendor and input from many more, we diligently settled upon a match with the brand Mejuri.

so

…i dunno if you remember, but back at the beginning of the year @kwyw also pointed out that there was an extra connection, between this evil eye necklace and the amulette de cartier:

both talismans of Courage.

the amulette de cartier has its own place in kaylor lore (if it’s new to you you can read about that here and here and here). but, veterans of quarantine kaylor remember how this rep era necklace made a unique surprise appearance during lover/folklore era, ultimately coinciding with karlie’s 2020 pregnancy. which, given the symbolism of the necklace, i think made a lot of thematic sense… being pregnant during the height of a pandemic is scary and, speaking from experience, i as well found myself in search of things to give me that extra peace of mind.

so seeing the necklace have that Courage keyword connection, i couldn’t help but uhhh, have a feeling so peculiar. now, with the gift of more (celebratory) information, let’s take a look at all the times karlie has worn this necklace (*reminder that some of these may be a day off because of the big time zone difference between me and the US):

August 3rd, 2022 — (as pictured above) karlie’s birthday, she writes “cheers to new beginnings xx”

September 2nd, 2022 — this therabody promo, which many of us got a kick out of after midnights was announced, first because she mentions 3am (the name of the extra version of the album) and the word midnight and second because this tiktok is set to the tune of ABBA’s “Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! A Man After Midnight”

November 19th, 2022 — a post captioned friyay, notably, wearing a loewe shirt, the designer who she wore to the met gala

December 11th, 2022 — to a celebratory kode with klossy event for her young scholars

December 13th, 2022 — she wore it as part of several instagram stories she had up on taylor’s bday (thank you @kwyw for the reminder 😆)

December 18th, 2022 — she posted this the same day she posted the photos of her josh and levi at the ice skating rink (mikey and misha were there too) before heading to japan.

February 3rd, 2023 — february.jpg

and then, at the met gala on May 1st, wearing loewe, she announces her pregnancy, and tells everybody that she is nearly 8 months along!

now, if we are to assume that she is 8 months along this may, we can count back ( 7mo along in april, 6mo march, 5mo feb, 4mo jan, 3mo dec, 2mo nov, 1mo along in oct, 0mo sept) and see how in order to have conceived in september, prep for that would likely have started in… yes, the month before. august! aka… when she first debuted the evil eye necklace!

and when you look back at all the phrases and contexts accompanying her posts with the piece, you can kind of see how the necklace works in concert with her setting her intentions, potentially celebrating milestones like finding out, telling people, hitting the 5 mo mark which is when the majority of pregnancies become more stable, etc… this is all to say, and this is just a simple thing but, i feel confident in saying that this necklace was in fact one way of her hinting at her next child, since all the way back in august 2022 ☺️ and since it’s an eye necklace? well, 😌 all the more nice of a feeling.

#evil eye #all eyes on us #jewelry

[ilookedintoit]

When Vince Met Amy: Part 1

Vince Gill and Amy Grant recently celebrated their 24-year wedding anniversary in March. They have been as serene and stable of a celebrity couple as you can find since the turn of the century, so it may be easy to forget that their love story began in rather dramatic fashion.

When the two singers first met, they were married to other musicians. What followed was several years of what one of their ex-spouses would refer to as "an inappropriate friendship" that predated their divorces.

Amy would even admit years later, talking about her ex-husband struggling with her friendship with Vince: "How painful to be married to somebody you know is so captivated by another human being.”

Amy and Vince have always maintained they didn't have an affair — at least, not one of a physical nature. But it does seem obvious that they fell in love many years before they were actually able to be together.

Here is the timeline of how Vince met Amy, and what happened in the 10 sometimes very messy years between that first meeting and their inevitable wedding day.

1980

Vince Gill marries Janis Oliver, a singer with the Sweethearts of the Rodeo, in 1980 after meeting as working musicians in Los Angeles.

They have a daughter in 1982 and move to Nashville to expand their music careers in 1983. At first, Janis's career takes off faster than Vince's. He even writes a tongue-in-cheek song about it called "Everybody's Sweetheart" in 1987.

I used to be the first in line Now I've fallen way behind She's everybody's sweetheart Everybody's sweetheart but mine

It is not until 1989 after he releases the album "When I Call Your Name" under MCA Records that he begins to achieve major success in country music.

1982

At the age of 21, Amy Grant marries fellow contemporary Christian singer-songwriter Gary Chapman. This same year, she releases the Christian album "Age to Age" that will eventually go platinum. She becomes wildly successful as a performer and on Christian radio. Gary will be along for the ride, writing songs with and for her, and playing on her tours.

In 1988, Amy's song "Faithless Heart" raises some eyebrows for the insinuation it makes about possible trouble in her marriage to Gary.

At times the woman deep inside me  Wanders far from home And in my mind I live a life That chills me to the bone A heart running for arms out of reach But who is the stranger my longing seeks?

Amy would be honest when doing promo for her new album that she and Gary had struggled.

“I wrote that song about three years ago, during such a hard time in our marriage,” says the singer, who met Chapman when she was 18, married him at 21, and lives with him and Matthew on a farm near Nashville. “I don’t think Gary knew how hard it was. Sometimes you can live with somebody and they don’t have any idea of the struggle you’re going through. As it ended up, in the fall of 1986, Gary and I went through several months of marriage counseling, and it was great.” (The Chicago Tribune, November 1988)

Unbeknownst to the world at the time, Gary had battled a substance abuse problem until 1986.

“I had two distinctly different lives,” he says today. “Different sets of friends, different likes, dislikes, actions, everything.” Grant wasn’t aware of his drug use, he insists, though as his moods darkened and communication broke down, a marital separation seemed imminent. Faced with that prospect, Chapman came clean, and with the help of counseling, he and Amy put things back together. (Texas Monthly, 1997)

In addition, Amy said there were other issues:

"It would be hard to say what all the dynamics were, but I think on some level there was probably some competition inside our marriage. In any circumstance where's there competition going on, what there can't be is nurturing." (Source)

Amy and Gary have three children together in 1987, 1989, and 1992.

1983

Vince says he remembers hearing Amy's song "Tennessee Christmas" on the radio in 1983 and it making an impact on him at the time.

"I was driving around somewhere in Nashville and I heard her voice and I pulled the car over. I said, 'There's something in that voice, it's connecting to me,' and little did I know how much." (Source)

1990

Amy and Vince first meet at an event for children of deployed soldiers from Fort Campbell, near Nashville, on December 15, 1990. The Christmas celebration is meant to bring cheer to the kids whose parents are far away. 

Amy will recall that they didn’t really get to know each other much at this event. Her husband, Gary, also attends. 

This photo below, from the Jan. 12, 1991, Billboard newspaper, shows Amy and Vince smiling at each other during this event, with Gary sitting beside them.

In September 1994, when they are still just friends, Amy tells The Boston Globe this about their first meeting:

“A lot of troops were sent to Desert Storm from Fort Campbell (near Nashville). So on that Christmas, Vince and myself and a couple of other artists went up to perform and sing Christmas carols with the children and spouses that had been left behind. “Vince and I hit it off and have done more and more things together as the years have gone by.”

1991-1992

Vince is a prolific songwriter and his marriage is sometimes a topic in his songs, including the 1991 ballad, "Look at Us." 

Still leaning on each other If you wanna see how true love should be Then just look at us

Janis is featured prominently in the romantic music video. 

In 1992, Vince writes the song "I Still Believe In You" for Janis after a fight. It is an interesting other-side-of-the-coin song to "Everybody's Sweetheart," which he wrote when she was on the road a lot and having more success than him, leaving him behind. Now he is the bigger star in the marriage, and they're facing the same problems in reverse.

He made a writing appointment with piano player John Jarvis on a day he had originally planned to spend with his family. Janis Gill was livid that he had intruded on their day, and they argued about it before he left the house. Feeling guilty, Vince wrote an apology that day ("I Still Believe In You")  ... Janis later said she cried when she heard it. (The Tennessean)

Somewhere along the way, I guess I just lost track Only thinkin' of myself, never lookin' back For all the times I've hurt you, I apologize I'm sorry it took so long to finally realize

"I Still Believe In You" becomes Vince's first song to hit No. 1 on the country chart. For the song he also wins CMA Song of the Year and Grammys for Best Country Song and Best Country Vocal Performance.

Janis says in a joint interview with Vince in the early 90s that them both being musicians has caused challenges at times:

“I’m really proud of the way that Vince and I have held our marriage together, and we’d be lying if we said that it was easy, because it isn’t. It’s really hard, and you have two egos to deal with, and conflicting schedules, a lot of time on the road.” 

1993

Vince and Amy's paths will cross more substantially than ever before in 1993, when Amy is invited to participate in the taping of Vince’s Christmas TV special to be filmed in Tulsa, Oklahoma. 

Vince has just had a huge year, winning two Grammy Awards and then in addition to co-hosting the CMA Awards in September, he also wins Entertainer of the Year, Male Vocalist of the Year, Album of the Year, and Song of the Year. He is without a doubt at the top of his game, so heading up a Christmas special is just one more big project to add to his list.

Ahead of the Christmas show taping, Vince talks to Tulsa World in an interview printed Nov. 29, 1993:

“I was able to get some friends of mine, good people, easygoing people,” said Gill. “Amy’s kind of the modern-day Johnny Mathis – you think of Christmas, and you think of her. She lives near me, and I’m a big fan of hers.” 

According to Amy, Gary made a peculiar statement to her as she was heading out the door to go to Tulsa for the filming:

This was messy because I met Vince when I was married to Gary. I had been invited to do a television show with him filmed in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it was right after my 33rd birthday... I was headed to the airport. Gary... we had been in marriage therapy, we were wired so differently. And I was walking out the door and he said, "Hey, don't fall in love with him." I said, "What? Why would you even say such a thing?" He said, "I've spent time with him, and you're wired very similarly." (Source)

The taping takes place on December 1, 1993. About their meeting, Amy would remember:

When I walked into that first rehearsal in Tulsa... I guess my brow was knitted and Vince walked over, he put his arm around me and he said "Hey, unkit that brow, it's okay." I remember looking at him and I said, "No one says that to me in my life." 

Gill remembers that someone dared him to put on a top hat and go and dance with Grant during one of her songs — even though he "can't dance a lick" by his own admission. "I started dancing with her, and those pretty big eyes," he said. "I started to sing and the words were just nowhere to be found. And the people were laughing at me." (Vince to ABC Primetime in 2002) 

Amy, who had been warned by her husband not to "fall in love" with Vince, said that while they did hit it off at the taping, she didn't think much of it...

"Except I thought — anything he's involved with I'm going to go do that thing, because he's just fun to be with."

Two weeks later, Vince participates as a performer for Amy Grant's Tennessee Christmas at the Grand Ole Opry House. A new Christmas tradition of performing with each other for holiday-themed events is born.

Whenever You Come Around

Vince would admit years later that he wrote the song "Whenever You Come Around" with Amy in mind after doing his Christmas special with her.

“This is a song that was inspired by a smile that I saw for the first time on the face of a woman that I’d never met. That was Amy Grant back in 1993. “I was so inspired, moved by the sight of that smile, that I came home and wrote this song,” he admitted. “I had no idea that all these years later we’d wind up together, have kids. … Life’s funny.”

The lyrics include:

The face of an angel, pretty eyes that shine I lie awake at night wishing you were mine I'm standin' here holding the biggest heartache in town Whenever you come around

I get weak in the knees and I lose my breath Oh I try to speak, but the words won't come I'm so scared to death And when you smile that smile, the world turns upside down Whenever you come around

“When I met [Amy] years ago I was just completely taken with her smile. We were doing a TV show together, and she walked in and smiled at me. I haven’t been the same since.” Vince shared that in the midst of wanting to write the song, he reached out to his friend, Pete Wasner. And, together they penned what the Country Music Hall of Fame member describes as the most beautiful thing he’d ever seen in his whole life. Prior to laying down the lyrics though, Vince remembered telling his buddy, “I want to write a song about Amy Grant’s smile.” But a surprised Pete reacted with, “Do you even know her?” (Source)

Vince says that he played the song for Amy and she didn't realize it was about her.

“She asked me to play her something that I was working on for my new record. So I played her this song that I had written about her, and didn’t tell her,” said Vince. “She listened to it and said, ‘Oh that’s nice. That’s really beautiful.’ Years and years and years later she said, ‘I remembered listening to that song for the first time and all I could think of was, ‘Who is the lucky girl that that song was written for?’” (Source)

For Amy during that time, she says: "The loneliness in my marriage was very apparent."

"Even though there were things about my life that were so difficult for me personally, I think the option of divorce was not an option." (Source)

House of Love

Amy and Vince will continue to orbit each other in many ways.

The two co-write a song called "If I Had My Way," which appears on Vince's album "When Love Finds You" released in June 1994.

They also record a duet shortly after Vince's Christmas show called "House of Love,” for Amy's new album of the same name.

In September 1994, Amy tells The Corpus Christi Caller Times the story of how she got Vince to duet with her on "House of Love."

When the topic turns to duet partner Gill, Grant gets a bit gushy as she talks about his charity work and self-effacing attitude.  … “I think sometimes things that are really rewarding in life, you don’t push,” she says. “One thing just kind of leads to another.  “That song ‘House of Love’ is probably the truest moment of that kind. I was trying to do the background vocals and I was mortified at how high they were. I couldn’t hit the notes. I’m sitting at the studio, dying a thousand deaths, when a friend who sells real estate called and said, ‘I’m getting ready to show Vince and Janis this farm you and Gary looked at; do you want to go?’ I love hiking, and it’s a beautiful hillside and I was familiar with the land, and I said yes. “After we looked at the farm, we were all getting in our cars to leave. I said, ‘Will you do a song for me on my record?’ and Vince said, ‘Sure.’ It amazed me that he didn’t even care what the song was about."

They film a music video, and the behind the scenes footage of them recording the song in late 1993 is available on YouTube.

1994

"House of Love" is released in late 1994, and the two make an appearance together on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

Both Amy and Vince's ex-spouses would later make claims about signs or outright actions of impropriety between Amy and Vince as early as 1994.

After their divorce, Gary would claim that:

Amy “came to him in late 1994 and made a declaration that took him by surprise: ‘I don't love you anymore. You're the biggest mistake I've ever made… I've given my heart to another man.’"  (CCM Magazine)

And in a November 1999 People Magazine article, Vince’s ex-sister-in-law will also claim that 1994 was the year his wife, Janis, learned that Amy and Vince's relationship was beyond what she would be comfortable with as his spouse.

Janis Gill, 44, Vince's wife of 17 years and mother of his daughter Jenny, 17, initially tolerated the close friendship he struck up with Grant, known for her Christian-themed paeans to eternal love, after she performed at his 1993 Christmas concert. Janis's forbearance vanished the next year after she found hand-written notes from Grant in her husband's golf bag. Her sister Kristine Arnold recalls coming home and finding a sobbing Janis parked in her driveway on the night of the discovery. "She was holding a crumpled note," says Arnold. "It said, 'I love you, Amy.' That was the beginning of the end."

At the end of 1994, Vince makes an appearance on Amy's "Christmas at Home with the Stars" segment.

Though Gary claims that Amy had already told him she was no longer in love with him at this point, they are the picture of a happy family for the television program.

Vince would reflect in 2003, in a interview with Larry King Live:

"The friendship caused a lot of animosity in both of our... on both sides of the fence, and rightly so, probably."

1995

Despite the previous year's events, Vince and Janis are featured on Country Weekly's "Country's Happiest Couples" cover for Valentine's Day 1995.

Again, Vince and Amy always deny any physical affair during this time, but in their joint interview with ABC Primetime in 2002, Vince does admit that Amy was on his mind in those early years, even though he was still married.

Gill, who had been married to his wife Janis since 1980, says he kept Grant in the back of his mind "pretty much" always. He consoled himself with the thought that it might be their destiny to be together one day, perhaps when they were in their 60s or 80s. "You don't know how life's going to unfold," he told himself.

Gary would also later say that he and Amy tried counseling in those years, but she gave up on it before he did: 

Chapman sought counseling on his own in 1995. Though Grant joined the sessions for "a couple of months," Chapman says marital counseling ended when she refused to continue. (CCM Magazine)

1996

January 1996

Amy talks to a reporter about how her and Vince's friendship has been bolstered by their love for golfing. Amy has taken up the sport after getting to know Vince.

The collaboration helped strengthen their friendship – as well as Grant’s fondness for golf, Gill’s favorite game. Grant’s husband got her a set of golf clubs for Christmas 1993 when she and Gill were recording together, and Gill encouraged her to work at her game. “We (Grant and Gill) had always enjoyed each other’s company and suddenly got to really get to know each other, because we were involved in making videos and had several opportunities to go places and sing the song,” Grant said. “He’s a great guy, just really wonderful to be around. “But he’s got a beastly temper on the golf course! He can go places in the world of anger that you don’t want to follow. It’s kind of nice – he’s such a nice guy, and you see a really horrible side of him, and think, ‘Oh, good, he’s human.’”  (The Bradenton Herald)

February 1996

Amy and Vince attend a Belmont basketball game together - no word if either of their spouses also came.

David Lipscomb University basketball fans were ready when city rival Belmont University and Belmont fans arrived for a game. Two of Belmont’s fans are singers Amy Grant and Vince Gill, who both attended the game.  One of the posters displayed at the David Lipscomb gym said: “Vince and Amy: Welcome to Our House of Love.”  The two singers recently had a hit duet by that name. (North County Times)

March 1996

Vince and Amy are in attendance at many of the same events this month, including Minnie Pearl's funeral in Tennessee and the Nabisco Dinah Shore celebrity golf tournament in Los Angeles. They duet together at a dinner ahead of the tournament.

June 1996

Amy receives the Minnie Pearl Award at the TNN Music City News Country Awards. She does not mention Gary in her acceptance speech but he is in the audience with her and she gives him a kiss as she goes up to the stage.

July 1996

Vince releases the song "Worlds Apart," which may be a hint about the state of his marriage.

You were my best companion Now we lie silent in the dark Why do you and me have to be worlds apart?

August 1996

Amy and Vince are present at many of the same events throughout the fall, including Vince's annual golf tournament The Vinny in Nashville in August.

Amy participates, as does Vince's wife, Janis. Amy is pictured in the same photo as Vince's daughter, Jenny, in The Tennessean's report about the event.

September 1996

The Sweethearts of the Rodeo release a new album, "Beautiful Lies," which features a song written by Janis Gill called "I Know Who You Are." The lyrics seem to be pointed at Amy:

I've seen you fly about And I have heard you sing You seem so spiritual When you are on the wing He thinks your pretty eyes Shine brighter than the stars He doesn't know who you really are

You couldn't be an angel Descended from above For angels never tear apart What God has yoked as one Don't you know the world has had its fill of ones like you So fly away like God would want you to

October 1996

Amy and Vince pose at the VH1 Fairway To Heaven Golf Tourney for celebrities at the Las Vegas Country Club on October 7.

The next weekend, they are back in Nashville where she participates in the Mini-Vinny, Vince's golf tournament for kids.

November 1996

Amy and Gary participate in Vince's annual basketball benefit at Belmont University in Nashville.

Pictured above: I am 99% sure this is Amy with Vince at the basketball game.

December 1996

Tabloids such as Star Magazine in December will print various stories of rumors about Vince and Amy during these years. One such story reportedly printed in Star is relayed by a commenter on a Usenet newsgroup in December 1996. According to the poster, the story:

"insinuates that Amy and Gary and Vince Gill and his wife are all having marital problems and Amy and Gill are 'crying on each other's shoulders' and that her relationship with Gill 'is an issue' when the Chapmans talk to their counselor."

But in contrasting news, Country Weekly reports in the December 10, 1996, issue that Vince and Janis are happily married and just returned from a vacation in Hawaii.

As usual, Vince along with Gary are performers at Amy's Tennessee Christmas event, which this year takes place at the new Nashville Arena.

1997

April 1997

Amy performs at a Billy Graham crusade in San Antonio, which is held April 3-6, 1997. She has shared the story more than once about how, feeling like she needed to be honest with Billy about her personal life, she sat down to confide in him.

In an October 2023 podcast, Amy gets pretty specific about what was going on in her life at that time:

"I was married, I had three children, I had fallen in love with a married man, and I already had a difficult marriage. And I felt myself just saying, 'I don’t know where I’m going to wind up, but I think I’m incapable of doing what I have been doing anymore.' "And I couldn’t walk on that stage with the man who held the trust of the whole world. I just said, 'I know I’ve been a public person of faith, and I still believe in God and I’m headed for a divorce. I need you to know that.' And he sat down and he said, 'I’ve got a bunch of children and there are a couple of them that are taking the long way home.' And he said, 'We’ll all get there. It’s okay.'" (No Small Endeavor podcast)

Pictured above: Vince and Janis at their wedding in 1980.

Divorce is not immediately imminent for Amy after this event, but just two weeks later, Janis Gill does file for divorce from Vince on April 16, 1997, in Nashville.  

Janis’ attorney, Rose Palermo, indicated that the couple would try to arrive at a property settlement on their own. The court would either approve or disapprove of the agreement at the time the divorce is granted. “It’s a private, personal matter between Janis and Vince,” Palermo said. “There’s no animosity or hard feelings; it’s just a sad time for their family. We have every belief that it’s going to be resolved amicably and worked out. They just need to get through the process.”  (The Tennessean)

More details about the time period leading up to the Gills' divorce will come out two years later. In a November 1999 People Magazine article, Janis’s sister Kristine Arnold says that after Janis found the “love” note from Amy to Vince in 1994, Janis "unsuccessfully begged" Vince to cut ties with Amy.

Gill and Grant maintain that Janis's suspicions were unwarranted and that their relationship remained platonic until their divorces were completed. ... But claims of chastity don't wash with Arnold. "Janis tried desperately to keep that marriage together," says Arnold, 43, who runs a Nashville boutique with Janis. "She did not leave her husband. He left her. She loved Vince deeply, and the whole experience has been horrifying. Just because people are not having a physical relationship doesn't mean they aren't having an affair." 

Amy says she doesn't hear of Vince's divorce from him; she learns about it by reading it in the news. The front page of The Tennessean in Nashville on April 17, 1997:

"That's how I found out. I read it in the paper," she said during her 2003 interview with King. Initially, Grant wasn't happy about the announcement. "It wasn't like I went, 'Oh good, he's available to me,' because I wasn't," she added. (Source)

Chapman, who by then was well aware of Grant's infatuation with Gill, glanced at the headline — it was on the front page — and turned to his wife, commenting that he was grateful someone had finally made the first move. "[It was] awful. Awful! Killed me for him," Grant remembers. "How painful to be married to somebody you know is so captivated by another human being." (Source)

Vince would say later that there was no "magic plan, like, 'I'm going to go do this and a couple years later you go do this.'"

"It wasn't even — there wasn't ever even a discussion. You know, I got a divorce. And I said well, I think she'll probably stay. I really did. That's how I felt." (Source)

In a 2002 ABC interview, Amy will admit that staying married to Gary after Vince got divorced was an "agonizing" decision for her.

When Gill's wife filed for divorce in 1997, tabloid newspapers printed articles saying Grant and Gill had had an adulterous affair — something both have consistently denied. Grant remained married and says Gill never asked her to do anything else: "He'd never ever, ever invited me out of my world into his. Ever," she says. Grant's 1997 album Behind the Eyes was filled with dark introspection and songs about unrequited love, including a sad tune called "Cry a River."

Those lyrics include:

Who knew love would come walking through my door Turn a light on somewhere down inside Give me a feeling I'd never had before It was a long wait It was just the wrong time

But I hope you'll hold me now Somewhere within And when you think about What might have been

At the time, she told ABCNEWS that the song was about "a moment when you connect with somebody and all the pistons fire, and then you go, 'Gosh the path of my life does not go down that road'" — but she refused to say who she had in mind. She now admits it was Gill. Gill was now unattached, but Grant made the agonizing decision to stay married, telling herself that being with Gill was not worth everything that she stood to lose by ending her marriage.

Initial reports after the Gill divorce filing will speculate about Amy and Vince, but there are also rumors about Vince possibly dating Bekka Bramlett, a musician he has recently collaborated with. Vince and Bekka will later deny this.

Meanwhile, the Gills' divorce will become a protracted battle over assets, with Vince's friendship with Amy becoming an issue in the fight.

Star Magazine would get ahold of their divorce filing in 1999 and publish the following information:

Gill's lawyer Lou Conner said he believed the other side was using Vince's friendship with Amy Grant as a "hammer" to make accusations that the two were having an affair during Gill's marriage. Janis planned to produce letters allegedly written between Amy and Vince that detailed their feelings toward each other. But Conner said Vince and Amy were simply "soul mates" — and that both were prepared to testify under oath that they never had sex. Grant ... hired her own lawyer for the case, and never gave a deposition.

August 1997

A fan on a Usenet newsgroup claims to have read about Vince and Amy in the National Enquirer in August. The poster comments:

"Well, it was a National Enquirer article back in August. Yeah, I normally never read that stuff, but I was in the checkout line at the grocery store and here was this article about Amy Grant! So, I picked it up. Had photos, witnesses, and even corroboration from personal friends of the two. Apparently Vince is pursuing her, says he's pining for her and in love with her. But, she doesn't want to hurt Gary even though they have grown apart."

September 1997 

Another commenter on a Usenet newsgroup reports that they heard a Toronto radio station interview with Amy on September 16. The poster summarizes:

"The DJ (surprisingly!) came right out and asked her if there was any truth to the 'affair' rumour between her and Vince Gill. She didn't seem offended by the question and basically said that her and Vince are 'dear friends' and that his marriage had just broken up so some tabloids must have tried to add one thing with the other. She said that it is not true and added that she is 'happily married to Gary Chapman.' The interviewer asked her view on tabloids and she was diplomatic in saying that she understands the public's interest in famous people, but there should be a line drawn on what is private info and what isn't." 

October 1997

On October 9, 1997, an item in the Tucson Citizen refutes all of the gossip about Vince's post-divorce love life:

Speaking of matters of the heart, let’s put to rest all the rumors about Vince Gill. He is not dating Bekka Bramlett. She says they just laugh about all the tabloid stories about them. And he most certainly did not leave his wife, Janis, for Amy Grant! As one Nashville insider told me, “Vince left Janis for Vince.”

Pictured: Vince and Bekka Bramlett in 2011. There was no truth to rumors of them dating at the time of Vince's divorce.

1998

June 1998

Vince and Janis's divorce is finalized this month. According to Star, which obtained the documents:

Janis pocketed more than $9 million — and that sum could reach $15 million as she collects 38 percent of all songwriting royalties Gill receives for songs he wrote during their marriage. She walked away with $6 million in cash, 150 acres of farmland valued at $1.5 million and her $700,000 house. She also kept the barn she built, the dress shop and a Lexus car valued at $35,000. It's one of the highest divorce settlements ever in Nashville.

Fall of 1998

Chely Wright, who revealed in 2010 that she is gay, wrote in her memoir "Like Me: Confessions of a Heartland Country Singer" that she and Vince connected in the fall of 1998 because they could not be with the people they really wanted to be with.

Vince and I were both MCA artists, so there had been times when we’d be corralled at the same event and we’d end up having easy conversation between us.  Both of us were working at the Sound Stage Studio on Music Row in the fall of 1998. We were just down the hall from each other and ended up in the lounge talking and I found him to be charming and quite likable, as does the rest of the world. Vince has been one of Nashville’s most beloved stars for decades, and anyone who ever gets the chance to be around him just falls in love with him. He'd recently been through a very public divorce and was currently being run through the rumor mill about his relationship with Amy Grant, another revered artist in Nashville’s music community.  Vince and Amy had been close friends for years, and it was highly speculated that they were in love. I remember thinking if Vince and Amy were in love, it made sense to me.  Vince and I began spending private time together after our studio chats. We had a lot in common, and in the years after our relationship I realized that we shared one bonding similarity – we were both lonely for, and in love with, someone else. At that time neither one of us was able to be with our one true love, so we allowed ourselves to find comfort in each other.  Early in my relationship with Vince, I understood that his heart would never belong to me. To some degree, that was a relief because it assured me that I wouldn't end up hurting him. Amy knew that Vince and I were spending a lot of our time together, but when I'd see her, she was always kind to me anyway.

Pictured above: Chely Wright with Vince, side stage at the Grand Ole Opry in December 1997.

Apparently at the same time, Amy and Gary's marriage has reached a breaking point, and she can no longer hold on any longer.

"I just felt like I was very lost; I felt hopeless and I think that I was just trying to find a way out." (Source)

“It had been rocky from the get-go. I’d been holding steady for 15 years in something that was not easy to hold steady.” (Source)

Gary also agrees to let it go - he really has no choice. According to Gary's 2000 interview with CCM Magazine:

By August of 1998, when Grant said she believed herself to be "released from the marriage," Chapman had come to the conclusion that he could do no more. "For five years after I was told that I was no longer loved and that she wanted out of the marriage, I refused that because of the kids.” … “I went to her and said, ‘I know of at least two times in the past three months, that I have literally on my knees begged you not to leave. You need to know that I’m not going to do that anymore.’"  

According to Gary’s CCM interview, he and Amy “sought professional mediation for the divorce in September 1998.” 

November 1998

Various newspapers report in early November that Amy and Gary are splitting, though they have not made any public comment. These reports appear to spark from a recent story in Star Magazine — a story that will end up being true.

Amy Grant’s going single Singer Amy Grant, 37, and husband Gary Chapman, 41, are pulling the plug on their 16-year marriage. They have three kids, ages 11 to 6. She reportedly has turned to old friend Vince Gill for solace. Country singer Gill ended his 17-year marriage last year.

December 1998

According to Gary, he and Amy tell their children of their decision to separate in late December.

They officially announce their split with a press release on December 30, 1998. 

One of Nashville’s most prominent couples is separating. Amy Grant and Gary Chapman officially announced their separation yesterday in a short statement.  “Gary Chapman and Amy Grant regretfully announce their separation after 16 years of marriage,” they said in a two-sentence press release on letterhead from their management company, Blanton/Harrell Entertainment. “They both ask for your prayers at this sad time and hope that you would respect their privacy.” (The Tennessean)

Part 2

#vince gill #Amy grant

[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

Hi! How are you? I hope you're having a good day! I hope you don't mind me sending this (and sorry if you've answered something similar before!) I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on Louis' relationship to the idea of "change" in the album?

We have bigger than me being the lead single with lots of references to changing and coming to terms with change. ('Cause, yeah, I might have changed/ But everybody does' one of my favourite lyrics!)

Then two of the bonus tracks "change" (which was the first fitf song we heard right? Sorry I wasn't around then!) Which is again about how things change and how in a lot of ways Louis still feels like the kid he used to be. (Side note- I'm always floored by how good change is, every time I listen its like im hearing it for the first time)

Then in high in california we have "spent my whole life just thinkin I had to change"

I find it so interesting and would love to hear Louis talk about it. I love so much of your thoughtful answers about Louis' music so wondered if you had any thoughts on this theme in particular?

Thank you so much!

There’s so much to say about Louis & the concept of change, and it goes much deeper than the lyrics that have the actual word “change” or “changes” in them.

Almost all of Louis’ lyrics about “home” have bittersweet overtones of nostalgia and loss— all the way back to 1D’s Through The Dark, Night Changes, Home. The reassurances of themes like, “When you’re lost, I’ll be here. I’ll lead the way. I’m be the light. Even when the night changes, I’ll be the same.” Even the flip side of Home (literally the A side to Home on the 1D surprise EP drop), Perfect, illustrates the exciting life of being a teen idol (“hotel rooms, good champagne”) sardonically, sarcastically, or as Julian Bunneta said during promo, “Ironically.” Perfect isn’t perfect at all… because it isn’t home. Perfect is pretend-perfect, superficial and glittery, fanfiction-perfect, but unreal.

(An aside… think about the reason Sony released Perfect as a single and not Home, even though Home was the fan favorite… and the fact that Home wasn’t even included in MITAM. Sony knew that fic-loving fans would generally misunderstand the concept of Perfect. The exciting, wild, party-drug-alcohol-filled life depicted in Perfect results in real life oopsie pregnancies and babies, which was causing complications in Louis’ real life. Home is a complicated topic amidst all of this instability.)

I think that for Louis, the idea of “Change” is the flip side of “Home.” Where Home is a bedrock, Change is uncertainty, anxiety, disruption. In 1D, change often ended badly for Louis. While the major change that he sought in 1D’s sound and in his involvement in songwriting brought about great personal satisfaction, it came at a huge cost— maybe even leading to industry’s blacklisting him in 2019. In 2015, most of the changes Louis faced brought about upheavals— the 1D break up that Louis didn’t want, the deep rift in the friendship with Zayn, Zayn’s and Harry’s impending solo careers, Louis’ accidental fatherhood. Initially, I think Louis was incredibly anxious about what fatherhood would mean to his personal life and his career (and his actions weren’t great, tbh). The stability that Louis had counted on at home was also about to undergo a seismic, tragic shift.

So to find out, at AFHF 2021, that the first possible song on a new album was called “Change” was intriguing, especially since Louis already knew the title of the next album would be Faith In The Future (it was flashed onto the AFHF screens, and Louis also said in interview that he knew the title before most of the songs were written). This song told us: The Future is not to be feared. There is hope in the power of positive thinking (e.g. Nikolai Tesla’s 369 manifestation method). Louis has— it seems— made his peace with change.

Listen to Change and see how much Louis invokes the idea of home in this song, bringing the two concepts together. Even his Home (Doncaster) is not truly static in a changing world: “houses all look the same/ There's different names on the gates/ You know the people have changed/ Oh, it's such a shame, nothing stays the same.”

It’s the same technique that he uses in Saturdays and in Silver Tongues, recalling his youthful past to acknowledge conflicted, painful, unresolved feelings, in order to move into the future (Chicago too). I think the most humorous reply (and the release of tension) to this push-pull dilemma is the lyric in Silver Tongues, “I don’t feel like going home.” — in a way, Louis is acknowledging that change can be rewarding and sweet, that the idea of home is in friendship and love, not in brick and mortar things, and that he can hold both concepts in his mind at the same time.

It’s kind of cool to compare the bridge from the chorus of Changes that Louis wrote and sold to blackbear (2018):

to Louis’ song Change (2020-21):

(angelsflylt on tiktok)

Where Walls is introspective, honest and vulnerable but dwelling on the past, Faith In The Future is about forging one’s own destiny, breaking through, drawing the moon in the sky, imagining one’s own poetry (Louis released merch in the shape of a bottle cap that opens bottles… thus creating its own solution).

Thank you for the question! I really missed looking at Louis’ riddles and wordplay. He’s so much fun, always (I bet he throws great parties), but also very intelligent and so heartbreakingly filled with love. We’re lucky to have his songs. He’s just in another class.

#louis tomlinson #change #Louis songwriting #change also is Louis’ very diplomatic and philosophical way of saying #that friends can change too #sometimes who he thought was his friend can become his biggest critics #for whatever reason #the pain it causes is also temporary #and one must believe in a better future regardless #and move on #the experience had value even if the people are no longer there for him #valuable lesson for all

[for-yoongi0309]

BTS’ Suga Returns as Agust D to Tackle Loneliness, Humanity & Being Acknowledged

Most famously known as Suga from BTS — but also by the solo moniker Agust D, as well as birth name Min Yoongi — the artist who works as a rapper, singer, producer, dancer, fashion muse and NBA ambassador wants to remind listeners that, above all, he is a human.

“In the past — and I’ve always said this in my interviews — personally, I think loneliness is being together in modern society. I always talk about loneliness in my interviews, but regretfully, it isn’t always in the final interview. Not only me, everyone has this loneliness inside them until the moment they die. However deep you are in a relationship, how much you engage with other people, how many friends you meet, or how often you meet with your family, you always have the loneliness inside.

So, I started with this keyword of “loneliness” three years ago, and I wouldn’t say there’s much difference in that everybody can feel pain and agonized. It’s the same with me. Whether it’s me from BTS, SUGA, Min Yoongi, or Agust D, I always have that inside me too. People might see me as someone who wouldn’t have any concerns or worries or that I don’t feel any agony, but I feel those emotions too. I’m trying to find a way to fight those and overcome those too.”

Today, April 7, marks the return of Agust D, the name Suga uses when releasing solo projects away from BTS, with the new single “People Pt.2” featuring K-pop superstar IU. Not only does it mark the duo’s latest collaboration after teaming for the No. 1 hit on Billboard‘s World Digital Song Sales chart “Eight” from May 2020, it also acts as an extension from “People,” a fan-favorite cut from Agust D’s D-2 mixtape released that same month. While the original “People” saw Suga reflecting on himself and meditating on how others judge and change, Part 2 longs for connection with others. As multifaceted as Suga’s world is, loneliness is a permanent source of inspiration and intrigue for the 30-year-old. Hours before “People Pt.2” drops worldwide, his call with Billboard occurs alongside multiple international teams who work around the clock for Suga and BIGHIT MUSIC artists. Some are beside him physically, others via Zoom connection virtually — but loneliness remains a muse for the star, assisting him in searching within and speaking to listeners in larger, universal ways. Since its debut, BTS’ musical appeal has reached globally largely through the septet’s extended metaphors and imagery, translating into accessible storytelling alongside boundary-pushing compositions and choreography. Suga’s range of material is vast, after producing on essentially every BTS album, not to mention scoring high-profile collaborations with everyone from Halsey and Juice WRLD to Epik High and Japan’s ØMI. But now, he’s emphasizing the topics that move him personally — and ensuring he’s properly heard.

Despite an already packed spring and summer with album promo, his solo world tour, ambassadorship duties and a YouTube series, Suga cheekily closes out our chat “Yeah, it’s fuking busy,” he says with a wink since he has no time to waste. Read on as he narrows in on the release of “People Pt.2” and all that’s led up to this reflective pop/hip-hop collaboration.

We’re hours away from the release of “People Pt.2,” your official return as Agust D for your D-Day album. Is there a different mindset when you prepare music as Agust D versus solo or as SUGA alongside BTS?

SUGA: They’re all music made by the person called Min Yoongi. So, I don’t actually have a very different mindset for each moniker — but I would say that the purposes could be somewhat different. Ultimately, the goal of releasing this music is for as many people to listen to my music as possible. So, “People Pt.2” was made thinking about how people will receive Agust D’s music, which is why we also featured IU. It’s kind of a trial to release this music under the name Agust D. I’m actually a little bit worried.

“People Pt.2” (featuring IU) of course follows up “People” from the D-2 mixtape. What was important about continuing this story with IU?

SUGA: This is a story that you’ll personally love: The title wasn’t originally “People Pt.2.” Actually, “People” from D-2 is personally my favorite song — and we actually worked on “People Pt.2” three years ago. When I was releasing my pictorial [Photo-Folio Wholly or Whole Me] photo shoot, the company actually revealed the guide [demo] version and gave a glimpse of it to the public. But anyway, it was already finished when we were working on D-2 so I was thinking, “Oh, I should release this, I should release this.” But we had to get on with “Butter” and “Dynamite” so we didn’t get the chance. Originally, the title was “Sara (사라),” without the “M (ㅁ)” consonant in Korean — because that’s, like, one consonant less than the word “saram (사람),” which is Korean for “people.” Depending on whichever consonant you put at the end of the word sara (사라), it can become “saram (사람)” and “people,” or it can become “sarang 사랑,” or “love” in Korean. So, it’s the listener’s choice to put which consonant you want at the end of “sara” (사라). But I had my friend listen to this song and people heard it as “sal-ah (살아)” which kind of means “live” in Korean and I was like, “This is not going to work.” So, we finalized the title to be “People” in the end. And some people call me August D, some people call me Ah-gust D, but I’m actually Agust D. So, you know, people take my name differently and we had to sync the person SUGA and Agust D. This is a song that kind of matches that sync. We need that bridge and sync between my mixtape and this official solo album. In order to put that sync together, I had to make this a very pop song. We didn’t try to make the music video that intense — and, in that sense, IU really played an important role in doing that. I also think this is a genre that I can do best, this pop-focused song.

There’s this sync between songs, but the themes and lyrics are very different, right? “People” was self-reflective and examined other people’s judgments, but “People Pt.2” seems more about connection and fighting loneliness. What most differentiates the two in your mind?

SUGA: In the past — and I’ve always said this in my interviews — personally, I think loneliness is being together in modern society. I always talk about loneliness in my interviews, but regretfully, it isn’t always in the final interview. Not only me, everyone has this loneliness inside them until the moment they die. However deep you are in a relationship, how much you engage with other people, how many friends you meet, or how often you meet with your family, you always have the loneliness inside. So, I started with this keyword of “loneliness” three years ago, and I wouldn’t say there’s much difference in that everybody can feel pain and agonized. It’s the same with me. Whether it’s me from BTS, SUGA, Min Yoongi, or Agust D, I always have that inside me too. People might see me as someone who wouldn’t have any concerns or worries or that I don’t feel any agony, but I feel those emotions too. I’m trying to find a way to fight those and overcome those too. This album doesn’t really finalize everything in its message either. So, there might be a possibility there could be a “Part 3” later on. For now, we’re just trying to say, “Let’s not hate each other. Let’s find a way.”

I like that — because even in the Road to D-Day documentary trailer, there’s a moment you say you frequently consider quitting music. But when people come together, it makes you realize you can do it and have fun. Does this tie into themes of “People Pt.2”?

SUGA: This is kind of a difficult topic, because I started making music and writing lyrics [when] I was 11 or 12 years old. I’ve been making music for all these years, and now I’m 30. It wasn’t easy writing “People Pt.2,” and the album overall, but people really don’t know the whole process of that. Even though I’d been making music more than half of my life — and I’m just saying this because you understand this, Jeff — when we first started in the K-pop scene, we were in this ambiguous position of not being accepted as musicians and not being accepted as idols either. But the musicians close to me know that I’m very serious and sincere in music and that I’m a very natural person. So, the documentary started as I just wanted to capture and show this process. It started with the purpose of showing SUGA as a producer and songwriter, but it kind of ended up having the worldview of an album-making process. I tried to show the normal, individual side of me as much as possible, but as I am a Korean idol, or K-idol, a lot of scenes were edited out; there were more of those natural scenes and some very good scenes that couldn’t make it in the final version. The documentary and “People Pt.2” try to reveal the natural side of the human Min Yoongi. I just wanted to show that I am this humane person. I am just a human.

You need to release your “Director’s Cut” one day. While D-Day and the documentary are coming, I want to congratulate you on the worldwide release of D-2 and Agust D this week. My favorite song, “Agust D” with the sample of “It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World,” was finally added to streaming too. You shared how J. Cole approved BTS’ “Born Singer” sample, what can you share about the process with James Brown‘s estate?

SUGA: I released Agust D when I was still very young, so, even as I listen to it now, it kind of sounds immature — if you listen to the tone, the rap itself wasn’t very organized, I wanted to do a lot of things at that time. It just kind of keeps going very tightly and quickly. But after doing so much various and diverse music, I think that people love the songs that have been released more recently than the songs that were released back then. So, I kind of dare say that people are starting to recognize and acknowledge these songs now. Since the musician actually passed away, I think it was the family who decided to acknowledge it. Same thing with [clearing] “Born Sinner” — and I don’t know what the path was for the musician themselves, but it was clear. And I take it as that I, as BTS, and Min Yoongi, and SUGA, and Agust D, was acknowledged as a musician. I’m really not thinking that broader consumers or audiences will accept it, because it’s not really popular music. Still, I would dare assume that it’s getting cleared because we’re finally getting recognized as musicians.

Interviewer: Jeff Benjamin at billboard

#ultkpopnetwork #mgroupsedit #idolsincedits #maleidolsedit #yoongi #suga #min yoongi #bangtan #bts #i/n.article news #i. interviews #ab.dday trilogy

[dearweirdme]

The talk about disappointment and viewing the numbers Tae pulled as a failure is wrong and based on what I guess is misinformation.

First of all I need people to stop with this myth that Tae’s music is so unreachable and niche when he literally just released 2 mid tempo pop r&b tracks, most people listen to and love r&b it’s literally one of the most popular genres of music. Most of his solo music some sub genre of pop or just plain pop music idk who’s been feeding ppl this bs but he makes pop music.

Second, Love Me Again and Rainy Days are pre release tracks they were not given the time or promo that a title track would be given because the way Min HeeJin does promotion pre release tracks are part of the promo that build anticipation to the album and title track release so the fact that Tae was able to debut both songs in the top 15 of Spotify global is amazing since he had no major buildup or playlisting and his songs were competing with each other even within the fandom because nobody was sure which song to focus on. To give you a comparison Olivia R had major promo and playlisting for the song she dropped yesterday and she did 5 million streams on Spotify both of Tae’s songs did over 3.5 million if you don’t understand how good that is I can’t help you.

Third, the reason Tae couldn’t keep the top spots on US iTunes is because much like the situation that happened with Jk a few weeks ago another country singer with angry republican fans are mass buying his song there’s nothing we can do about that and I want to keep reminding everybody that these are prereleases they were never meant to be treated like a title track and the fact that their numbers are comparable to the numbers others have done with title tracks and multiple versions of their songs should tell you how popular he is and how good he’s doing not to mention all of the amazing reviews on top of all of it. The other thing I don’t think people get is how difficult it is to chart 2 songs simultaneously but the last time army tried to do it was with BE when they did chart all of the songs but it was super difficult and it would’ve been better and might’ve gotten them another #1 on the Hot100 if we focused on one song.

Tae is the only one that has his achievements turned into negatives and failures and idk why but if you’re a fan you should stop.

Hi @poisonousjk !

Yes, thanks for this! I did not know all of what you laid out here, but a lot is what I’ve been thinking too!

Part of fandom is making this a negative situation right now, and it’s a real shame that Tae’s solo debut is being viewed (by some obviously) in this light.

#Tae solo #tae promo

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I think aespa fans have the right to be mad for a lot of things one of them being one of the bg meber being a nepotism kid but everybody being fine with thar while giselle still gets hated for made up nepotism rumors. There is only 2.5 years difference between aespas debut and this one and now we can see that sm rushed aespa debut even though they had a lot of time to complete everything. Riize getting music show promotions for pre release and getting 2 pre release at that and now this physical album,I don't remember if nct had a physical album for their debut but red velvet certainly did and so did aespa. Aespa actually had 3 back to back digital singles to that sucked along with little to no content and promo. Even now they don't have a full album and all mys are scared that sm is gonna put the rest of the concert tracks in the new mini. If sm rushes the nggs debut and only gives them a digital single then we can all conclude that they are sexist mfs. And yes they did have a press release something along the lines that ride topped some chart and aespa fell below them which made the fans rightfully angry

i never said aespa fans don't have the right to be angry i literally said you're right to be angry over aespa's treatment and im on your side with that. im just against holding a grudge against another group simply because they got better treatment during a debut. they can't control what the company does just as much as aespa can't. wayv didn't have a comeback for close to two years and ten was out of the country for 9ish months and winwin was gone for 1.5 years. we didn't get any full group content for so long (and we still barely get any) and yangyang even said that at one point was worried because he didn't know if wayv would ever even come back. they still barely get anything compared to 127/dream in terms of cbs and tours and yet i don't hold it against the other units. the press release sounds to me like they were just saying riize has performed well so far in some metric and then using another well charting sm group as point of reference. that's nothing personal against aespa, its just how companies run they will always compare their groups. and in the case of charts, saying one sm artist charted high and surpassed another is not an attack on aespa, its just an objective analysis of the current positions of their artists in a constantly changing chart ranking. and as for of them being a nepotism kid, i've definitely seen him getting hate for it on twt. and are mys also mad at sunny for being lee soman's niece and chris lee's cousin? or is it just anton. the nepotism thing is going to follow all three of them for the rest of their careers and personally im not going to let it bother me. i like to embrace those types of things with humor because getting mad isn't going to erase it so i'd rather just have fun with it. as for the smngg, i full heartedly hope the ngg gets as good of a debut as riize, but im not going to spend my time worrying about hypothetical scenarios in the unknown future, it just adds extra suffering. we'll get there when we get there.

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