#i used a ref for the second one but not the first one but i like the forst way more … they lied to me saying using ref imgs makes ur artgood

[umblrspectrum]

hi heres art so you pay attention to me now go read the tags

#ive been rewatching episode 7 like its the only thing on youtube and made note of many things #first off. the solver can only have one host. nori mentions skyn wants to kill off all the other solver hosts (with the dds) and disregards #the idea of both uzi and doll being its current host when they get chased #plus the main solver possessions only occur when skyn is out of the picture (the fightt in ep 7 is only after n decapitates “tessa”) #solver uzi is possible too but i dont count her cause she doesn't have the yellow #personal theory is that its more an instinctual response to overheating or something and not full on possession #second off nori calls the solver cyn. how does she know that name #cyn was on earth and only showed up to copper 9 recently and i presume nori's been here her whole life #it probably wasn't the other dds cause none of them made it down and they're all more savage beasts #since cyn specifies n's team retained their personalities and that makes me think the other teams didnt #also also we should've immediately questioned tessa arriving in the same type of pod as the mds when they were revealed to not be sent by j #im running out of characters also the people who dont like when i use tags like this can bite me #murder drones #murder drones nori #artori? that sounds cool #ill probably just stick with nori though #i have so many solver heart refs now #art #episode 7 #murder drones episode 7 #murder drones episode 7 spoilers #using the same black for shadows as my lineart doesn't work when i have to draw thin things over it #murder drones spoilers

[noecoded]

nicheposting asmo obey me but 2000s emo

#this may be too derivative. does anyone even get it. shakes you #hes like XD :3 >_< but only this soecific far removed vers in mu head i know i know #asmo #mine #asmodeus obey me #I was planning on doing like a fake myspace page because i made a template this summer and i LOVE making fake social media spreads but its #too unappealing to anyone who isnt me i think.im the only one who wanted that #i am listening to.ptv. bulls in the bronx. fast times claireonyt high. hundred sleepless nightd. &more #i used a ref for the second one but not the first one but i like the forst way more … they lied to me saying using ref imgs makes ur artgood

[hell0mega]

"but it's pretty!"

trying something new after hearing what his crush's fave color was

maybe it's working too well (bonus under the cut 👀):

#good omens #good omens fanart #aziracrow #ineffable husbands #crowley #aziraphale #gomens #go2 #sorry im obsessed with how i drew crowley's face in the second panel #my spicy stuff is so vanilla lol #it was really like. i just had the idea for the first picture. then the first panel. then the second. then was like. hm maybe one more #also i had no reference for any of these. i couldn't find any. pray for me lol i hope they look okay #i should say pose refs. i took pictures of my hands for the last one and i used clip's 3d modeler for the first (but i posed it)

[dont-offend-the-bees]

Softe Chainshipping sketchies...

#saw #chainshipping #saw 2004 #lawrence gordon #adam faulkner stanheight #adam stanheight #i used a pose ref for the second one but otherwise these are completely refless so be nice to me #starting to think i can only draw Adam when i keep it sketchy! #try and refine his face into defined lines and suddenly oh dear who is this #I'm proudest of Adam's face in the second and Adam's leg in the first!! #tumblr please don't take this post down I know pose one is Suggestive but there's no dick i promise!! #my art

[smoocheys]

posting/reuploading old stuff in da meantime

one - two

#0253c #i genuinely and for real cant draw like this anymore idek where i pulled this out of. i did not have a ref for the first one #and i used myself as ref for the second one but obvs i dont have al's body #i cant do that anymore. what happened #also id posted the second pic before but as an example in a long ask #so im posting it ''by itself'' neow ^_^

[triangle-strategy-notes]

Quahaug Concept Art

Quahaug's concept/reference art! Translation notes and image id under the cut.

Translation notes:

"OP sort of powerset" was literally translated as something like "cheat-like." I feel like OP is the more common English term for that sort of thing, so that's what I used, but some of the meaning was probably lost there.

"Older-tween-ish" was specifically a reference to a particular middle school year for children who are about 12-13 years old. Since grades and names of grades vary a lot from country to country, I just went with "older tween."

ID:

[Image id: Several images displaying different parts of 2 pages of the Triangle Strategy artbook, with both the original Japanese as well as versions with English translations. There are several disclaimers noting that the translator doesn't speak Japanese, and that there are likely many mistakes.

On one page, there is a large colored version of Quahaug's canon portrait, along with a smaller, uncolored version. There is an illustrator's note at the bottom that translates to read, "'Manipulating time' is an OP sort of powerset, so though he looks like a child, I aimed to create a look for him that conveyed a sense of unknowable power. (Tatsuaki Urushibara)".

On the second page, there are many drawings of Quahaug, including a closer bust-up portrait in which he's compared to Lyla, with an arrow and label reading, "Mother." There's also several notes that explain the construction of his costume. The costume is labeled as a Greek "phelonion" (a priest's outfit with no real sleeves, just draping fabric). There is a small drawing of this version, with an arrow leading to another drawing that does have sleeves, with the note, "If you can't display this in pixels, use this one." There are several notes that explain how this draping cloth should be considered his everyday clothes, while the ceremonial decoration that goes around his neck is placed over it. There is a close up of the ceremonial dressing's fastenings underneath the metal decoration. Some more notes highlight details on his staff, emphasizing the hourglass on top and the small wheel to the side that can be turned to flip the hourglass. A larger piece of text underneath one fullbody drawing reads, "Character Who Manipulates Time."

On the second half of the second page, there are drawings of some beta designs for Quahaug. He looks much more punk-ish. On one bust-up portrait, there are the captions, "The burden of the time demon caused some of his hair to go gray…." and "All-natural highlighted tips." On the same portrait, he is snapping his fingers, and there's a note that reads, "Manipulating time is as easy as snapping your fingers. You just have to want it or whatever." A speech bubble near his head reads, "I don't think of Anna as a mother." A caption pointing to some green markings on his arm reads, "Demonic time seal on body." In a fullbody drawing of his beta design (which is made up mostly of chains that barely cover him as well as a long roughed-up cloak, there is the note, "Almost naked cloak."

At the bottom of the second page, there is another note that reads, "Initially when we hadn't quite figured out the setting, we had an idea for a more older-tween-ish character as displayed here, but after discussing it with the producers and Mr. Ikushima, we went with his current form. As a boy who manipulates time, I placed an hourglass at the tip of his staff, and his face resembles that of his mother, Lyla. (Tatsuaki Irushibara)". /end id]

#triangle strategy #quahaug #lyla viscraft #triangle strategy artbook #ts artbook character ref sheets #at long last. emo quahuag #despite the WTF factor I really love the page. HE'S SO LITTLE. SO SO LITTLE. like in his canon portrait he could arguably be like 14-15 #but in those drawings on the second page he is indisputably a baby. look at that little face. HE'S SO CUTE #and that note about Anna really cracks me up. can't believe we missed out on having Anna try to wrestle with an angsty 12-year-old #also! trying out a slightly different format from last time! I will at some point probably throw up another poll about it #as always feel free to leave a comment/tag/anything else with feedback if you have any #at some point in the distant future I will probably go through and try to make all of the translation posts more consistent #but I probably won't go back and do that sort of thing until I get all of them done #oh and also also! as a note I actually messed up my order a bit; I meant to do lyla's first before this one #but she and the other saints will be up next #edit: one of the images had an old version of a translation (used 'something' instead of 'whatever' in the note about snapping fingers) #just reuploaded it

[sheyshen]

got some stuff in the works after like a month of nothing >:3

#couldn't remember what emet's hair looked like and wasn't about to try and draw unknown tonight but will be workin on these #i used a photo ref for the second half of the dance one but hmmm there's something bothering me #i do wanna adjust the first half of the dance one as well

[cycloplasm]

Manchineel but with poison miku outfit and the poison type outfit from this!

#fruitbugs manchineel #o #rose'socs #i used a ref for the first pic but cant find the picture at all sorry. Don't remember who shared it </3 #and it was a real person's pic (a passerby but real nonetheless) so im not comfy just posting it myself? in a reblog i mean #however the second pose no ref did it all by myself like a grown up #i sketched out the pose on a post it note but i have a lot of those and only rediscovered it today and. I actually got the pose wrong oops #like the feet were supposed to be more apart and have a stronger persp going on. i dont say that like negatively- #i say that as a note that you might one day see a similar pose- the intended one- on another character. Or not. mayb manchi again #oh and second pic the centipede tail is a prosthetic- it's his favorite!

[axvwriter]

PERMISSION TO DRAW THIS PLEASE I’LL TAG YOU (for the delicious brainrot you gave me)😭🙏✨✨

To draw the birthing of a conch after 9 months of pregnancy or to draw Paulie taking Pin-cha over to NRC? (Joking, I'm pretty sure you mean Paulie... right?) Go right ahead! I'm completely fine with anyone using my twst ocs (that are apart of dorms/based off disney characters) but definitely would love to be tagged so I can see it!

(Though it it's actually just Pin-cha bringing in dirt, of course you can. I don't really feel claim/ownership over general ideas. The only things I would want tagging/ownership of is my ocs. Oh what if it's the sitting at Azul's desk part? What if Pin-cha's so short that you can barely see his head with the desk in the way?)

Oh I've gotten like halfway through with the comic I'm making that has Anan and Charin in it. I was going to message you in regards to the Jong-kra-ben but realized with how I've drawn so far, that I don't think there's enough of it shown to actually worry if I've gotten it right. Though since you are messaging, may I ask if they both wear a Jong-kra-ben? (Crap I'm hoping I'm remembering how that's spelled exaclty) I've looked it up but I'm uncertain if Google was actually showing me the right thing as it was also showing results for like a Chong-kraben or something of similar spelling... plus the article that explained how to wear it looked different to your drawings.

Do you already have some drawings or reference images in regards to that type of clothing? Sadly my american schooling has basically taught me nothing when it comes to the world outside of America.. Uhhmm you can answer this in your own post or reblogging if you do want to answer my question regarding Jong-kra-ben. You don't have to answer if you don't want to. Though answers regarding to at least if they wear the same thing or not would be nice as I'm clueless.

Here's a link to Paulie's ref/post so you don't have to hunt him down!

#ask #twst related #siphok #siphoklansan #almost put sipphok and had to stare to figure out what i did wrong which was hit the h key twice #pin-cha is adorable #siphoks art always looks professional #paulies ref can be found under my fanfiction masterlist page #wait i should just link to the post to make it easier #link #tumblr link #twst ocs #after finish the first part of the comic i was thinking the second part will be pretty easy too #then i remembered i do want to go kinda all out on one panel so maybe it wont be that fast #doesnt help that i cant find a good long term position to sit in thats comfortable and doesnt make my feet numb when using my art tablet #all these little annoyances but no easy cheap solution rip #would love to have a wireless screen art tablet but those are hecking expensive #some reviews ive seen of just the wired screen art tablets have stated the wires not working and the screen being super fragile #some reviews even saying it only lasts a month which is unreasonable for something in the thousands of dollars #though my mom has pointed out possibly using a regular tablet but i keep forgetting to actually look into that oof #a discord pal has mentioned drawing on phone but ive realized i use refs so often that id have no room to draw! #i always use refs of even my own characters as i dont trust my memory #do people get upset if they arent credited for simple general ideas like bringing in dirt and then crying about trying to be rebellious? #like some ideas are generic and/or simple enough that anyone could think of it that it seems silly to try to claim ownership of such an ide #i actually considered drawing paulie and pin-cha myself but too many things i want to draw and im being too slow with drawing #i keep thinking of more and more things to draw in general plus im tired of drawing humanoids i want to do my creatures! #but crap i also want to draw my humans but i freaking hate human anatomy

[littleststarfighter]

howdy!! would you be able to post your whole process of creating a piece - like sketch to lineart to color?!? so excited!!🤩

Sure, I'll see what I can do for you ❤️ It won't be for a bit though as I'm halfway through some paintings so they'll take a wee while to finish. My one problem is I sometimes flatten my layers when I'm happy with a part to spare my poor computer because I work big. So I would either have to start something new from scratch. Which at the moment I don't have time to start. Or find a piece I didn't squash the layers on. Just give me a while to see what I have that's fully layered. And, hopefully I still have my rough sketches (I do them on printer paper before going over them onto better cartridge paper. So I don't keep them most of the time.) to make a progress timeline. 

#Sadly was sent another anon before this one thinking I trace #Kind of been second guessing my art and process because of that since #So will try to explain how I do the more realistic pieces #I do use refs a lot and I've never hid that fact #I don't think there's anything wrong with heavily using refs to draw from #The first thing they taught us at art college was how to draw accurately from refs

[wolvencanis]

Florian through the years, 2019-2021!

#the first one is his original app art and it's awful lmao #the newest was supposed to be his app update art but i never finished it #the second one is a concept i scrapped and the third is what i'm using as his current ref #my art #oc art #oc: florian #paradise rising #cat oc

[faarkas]

♫♫♫♫ + adrian!

twirls my hair hiiii airika thenk yew

Northern Lights - Kennie

Brighter than the Northern Lights

You’re in every colour

Of this star speckled sky

And I just want you here with me

Clocks - Coldplay

The lights go out and I can’t be saved

Tides that I’ve tried to swim against

Have brought me down upon my knees

Oh, I beg, I beg and I plead

—

Am I a part of the cure

Or am I part of the disease?

Haze - Amber Run

I’m living in dark rooms

Playing at God

Staring at blank walls

Pretending I’m not

In a blue haze

A blue haze

—

There’s a crushing silence where love’s a disease

Like a fever it grips me,

Like a lover it holds

I kissed someone (it wasn’t you) - dodie

I kissed someone, it wasn’t you

Leaning in like I’m supposed to do

I pulled away and I gasped for him

I didn’t feel a single thing

—

All worked up for something dead

I think it’s time to go to bed

Put me in a car, I just want to go home

Put me in a bath, I’ll forget you are gone

How could it be anyone but you?

(I know now, I know now, I know)

#CLOCKS FOR HER MAKES ME GO CWAZY. First song on her playlist let’s go ! #and yet it’s the second one mentioned…..*jeff goldberg/lum voice* Oh don’t @ me ok. don’t @ me. #northern lights does kill me tho tbh bc i use it in ref to her late family and i think iirc kennie wrote it about her late mom so. #*reads the lyrics knowing that info* crying brb! #AND I KISSED SOMEONE IT WASNT YOU COMING IN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR IN THE CONTEXT OF HER LATE HUSBAND AND HER TRYING TO FIND COMPANIONSHIP #BEFORE RIV IS ON THE SCENE. HO HO. Anyway yeah I cried a little. she is so depressing LMFAO #hil.txt #ocstuff #oc: adrian #me; Just post A BRIEF SNIPPET OF LYRICS. #me: Yeah yeah yeah whatever u say boss (does not do that) #i had 2 cans of ice tea earlier today and 2 mugs of tea this bitch is wired for sound

[diataragmenos]

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#don't reblog this I'll kick u in the foot #love when I discover one (1) vaguely popular character who fits one of the boys' characters Unnervingly Well #(they keep being dc characters. what's with that.) #ok the first isn't even similar character wise but the actor was too similar as a 'faceclaim'/visual ref #this second one is SO on the nose how did I never get into their source more #idk I'm having a normal one it seems lmao #if anyone is curious. the first was zoom from the cw flash show. #now it's fucking hellrazer. yeah him. this magic bi disaster bitch. #i still can't get used to the actor who plays him but any animated/comic sources are SO on point with vibes #tfw a headmate gets to have a treat (a random character I immediately latch onto) #what's the quote #if I had a nickel for every time this happened I'd have two nickels. #which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice #he's called fucking hellblazer not hellrazer #it's 2:30am I told u I'm having a normal one

[kotori-mochi]

Can't afford art school?

After seeing post like this 👇

And this gem 👇

As well as countless of others from the AI generator community. Just talking about how "inaccessible art" is, I decided why not show how wrong these guys are while also helping anyone who actually wants to learn.

Here is the first one ART TEACHERS! There are plenty online and in places like youtube.

📺Here is my list:

Proko (Free, mostly teaches anatomy and how to draw people. But does have art talks and teaches the basics.)

Marc Brunet (Free but he does have other classes for a cheap price. Use to work for Blizzard and teaches you everything)

Aaron Rutten (free, tips about art, talks about art programs and the best products for digital art)

BoroCG (free, teaches a verity of art mediums from 3D modeling to digital painting. As well as some tips that can be used across styles)

Jesse J. Jones (free, talks about animating)

Jesus Conde (free, teaches digital painting and has classes in Spanish)

Mohammed Agbadi (free, he gives some advice in some videos and talks about art)

Ross Draws (free, he does have other classes for a good price. Mostly teaching character designs and simple backgrounds.)

SamDoesArts (free, gives good advice and critiques)

Drawfee Show (free, they do give some good advice and great inspiration)

The Art of Aaron Blaise ( useful tips for digital art and animation. Was an animator for Disney. Mostly nature art)

Bobby Chiu ( useful tips and interviews with artist who are in the industry or making a living as artist)

Sinix Design (has some tips on drawing people)

Winged canvas (art school for free on a verity of mediums)

Bob Ross (just a good time, learn how to paint, as well as how too relax when doing art. "there are no mistakes only happy accidents", this channel also provides tips from another artist)

Scott Christian Sava (Inspiration and provides tips and advice)

Pikat (art advice and critiques)

Drawbox (a suggested cheap online art school, made of a community of artist)

Skillshare (A cheap learning site that has art classes ranging from traditional to digital. As well as Animation and tutorials on art programs. All under one price, in the USA it's around $34 a month)

Human anatomy for artist (not a video or teacher but the site is full of awesome refs to practice and get better at anatomy)

Second part BOOKS, I have collected some books that have helped me and might help others.

📚Here is my list:

The "how to draw manga" series produced by Graphic-sha. These are for manga artist but they give great advice and information.

"Creating characters with personality" by Tom Bancroft. A great book that can help not just people who draw cartoons but also realistic ones. As it helps you with facial ques and how to make a character interesting.

"Albinus on anatomy" by Robert Beverly Hale and Terence Coyle. Great book to help someone learn basic anatomy.

"Artistic Anatomy" by Dr. Paul Richer and Robert Beverly Hale. A good book if you want to go further in-depth with anatomy.

"Directing the story" by Francis Glebas. A good book if you want to Story board or make comics.

"Animal Anatomy for Artists" by Eliot Goldfinger. A good book for if you want to draw animals or creatures.

"Constructive Anatomy: with almost 500 illustrations" by George B. Bridgman. A great book to help you block out shadows in your figures and see them in a more 3 diamantine way.

"Dynamic Anatomy: Revised and expand" by Burne Hogarth. A book that shows how to block out shapes and easily understand what you are looking out. When it comes to human subjects.

"An Atlas of animal anatomy for artist" by W. Ellenberger and H. Dittrich and H. Baum. This is another good one for people who want to draw animals or creatures.

Etherington Brothers, they make books and have a free blog with art tips.

📝As for Supplies, I recommend starting out cheap, buying Pencils and art paper at dollar tree or 5 below. If you want to go fancy Michaels is always a good place for traditional supplies. They also get in some good sales and discounts. For digital art, I recommend not starting with a screen art drawing tablet as they are usually more expensive.

For the Best art Tablet I recommend either Xp-pen, Bamboo or Huion. Some can range from about 40$ to the thousands.

💻As for art programs here is a list of Free to pay.

Clip Studio paint ( you can choose to pay once or sub and get updates. Galaxy, Windows, macOS, iPad, iPhone, Android, or Chromebook device. )

Procreate ( pay once for $9.99, IPAD & IPHONE ONLY)

Blender (for 3D modules/sculpting, animation and more. Free)

PaintTool SAI (pay but has a 31 day free trail)

Krita (Free)

mypaint (free)

FireAlpaca (free)

Libresprite (free, for pixel art)

Drawpile (free and for if you want to draw with others)

IbisPaint (free, phone app ONLY)

Medibang (free, IPAD ONLY)

NOTE: Some of these can work on almost any computer like Clip and Sai but others will require a bit stronger computer like Blender. Please check their sites for if your computer is compatible.

So do with this information as you will but as you can tell there are ways to learn how to become an artist, without breaking the bank. The only thing that might be stopping YOU from using any of these things, is YOU.

I have made time to learn to draw and many artist have too. Either in-between working two jobs or taking care of your family and a job or regular school and chores. YOU just have to take the time or use some time management, it really doesn't take long to practice for like an hour or less. YOU also don't have to do it every day, just once or three times a week is fine.

Hope this was helpful and have a great day.

"also apologies for any spelling or grammar errors, I have Dyslexia and it makes my brain go XP when it comes to speech or writing"

#art #artist #digital art #art help #help #art advice #art tips

[c1nn4-bunny]

[through coughs of blood] HEHURHEUDUE YOU GUYS DONT EVEN KNOW THE NICE STUFF IM WRITING ABOUT YOU RIGHT NOW !!!!! [hacks up a lung] !!!!!!! JIST YOU WAIT [collapses]

#c1nn4bunny.txt #im in pain lol dont mind my dramatic ass #back pain that makes u feel like ur dying fr fr tho #ANYWAY. I HAVE ALL THE IMAGES I'M USING AS REF IN SEPARATE CHANNELS FOR EVERYONE ON MY LIST. AND THE CHANNEL DESCRIPTIONS #ARE ALL ME COMPLIMENTINGNYOU ALL AND SAYING HOW MUCH U MEAN TO ME !!!! #YEAS I WILL BE TELLING YOU THIS MYSELF BUT LIKE. JUST VAGUELY KNOW THAT IM HITTING YOU WITH A #SLEDGHAMMER WITH 'LOVE AND AFFECTION' WRITTEN ON THE SIDE OF IT AND HEART STICKERS AND GLITTER ALSO IT'S PINK #nervy because one of them is someone i dont actually. talk to. often. but like. their art has meant a LOT to me since. early high school. #in terms of like fuelling my addiction (/j) and weirdly helping my gender dysphoria?? like huh wow that's me now actually. #and ive just been watching them grow as an artist and im so proud of them and [screams] GOD I WANT TO TALK TO THEM SO BAD BUT LIKE. YKNOW??? #and then there's you fuckers (mutuals)(affectionate) that ive somehow managed to pull into being my friends. #dont think for a second you're exempt from the affection barrage. you're the first victims. you will be smothered. (endearing) :)

[janmisali]

what do you think of tone indicators in general?

unfortunately my thoughts on tone indicators are somewhat nuanced. fortunately, this is tumblr not twitter, so I can just write out my full thoughts in one post and be as verbose about it as feels necessary.

speaking as an autistic person (and I know there are other autistic people who don't hold this same view, this is just my perspective), I think as an accessibility tool, the extended set tone indicators in current popular use is fundamentally misguided.

the oldest ones, /s for sarcasm and /j for jokes, make sense. their notation isn't the most intuitive thing ("does /s mean sarcastic or serious?") but it's not too difficult to explain what they mean. I've had to spend my whole life learning by brute force what different tones of voice mean and what they change about how I'm supposed to interpret something, so I already know what "read this in a sarcastic voice" and "read this as a joke" are supposed to mean. my existing skills can be translated into the new form without too much effort.

the same thing applies to emoji and emoticons. I know what facial expressions mean, because I had to learn what they mean. figuring out if :) is sincere or not from context is a skill I've already needed to develop. it doesn't come naturally for me, but it's something I already at least somewhat know how to do.

most of the tone indicators in current use uh. don't work like this.

tone indicators like /ref or /nbh don't correspond to specific tones of voice. I don't have a "I'm making a reference" voice or a "I'm not talking about a person who's here" voice that I can picture the sentence being read in. these do not indicate tones, they're purely disambiguators. they clarify what something means without necessarily changing how it would be read out loud.

and on paper, that's fine, right? like, it's theoretically a good thing to take an otherwise ambiguous statement and add something to it that clarifies what you meant by it. the problem is that these non-tone tone indicators are not even remotely self-explanatory. it's up to me, the person who is being clarified to, to know what all these acronyms are supposed to mean, and how they change the way I'm supposed to interpret what something means.

it's, quite literally, a newly-invented second set of social cues that I'm expected to learn separately from the set that I've already spent my whole life figuring out, and it works completely differently.

sure, these rules are (in principle) less arbitrary than the rules of facial expressions and tones of voice and how long you're supposed to wait before it's your turn to speak, but they're also fully artificial and recently invented, which means they're currently in a constant state of flux. tone indicators go in and out of fashion all the time, and the "comprehensive lists" are never helpful.

in theory, I appreciate the idea of people going out of their way to clarify what they mean by potentially ambiguous things they post online. if it worked, that would be a really nice thing to do.

however, sometimes I imagine what the internet would be like without them. what if instead of using /s, the expectation was that if you're sarcastic online there's no guarantee that strangers reading your post will know what you meant? what if instead of inventing more and more acronyms to cover every possible potentially confusing situation, we just... expected one another to speak less ambiguously in the first place?

so, I on paper like the idea of tone indicators. I think it's good that some people are trying to be considerate by being extra clear about what they mean by things. but if tone indicators didn't exist, and people who wanted to be considerate in this way instead just made a point of phrasing things more clearly to begin with, I think that would be vastly preferable to even the most well-implemented tone indicator system.

also /pos sucks because there's something deeply and profoundly wrong for an abbreviation that means "I don't mean this as an insult, don't worry" to be spelled the same way as an acronym that's an insult

#tone indicators #jan misali