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#idk if this is the best way to convey how i feel about jon being marked by all the fears but i hope it comes across how i want it to :3
fiendishartist2 · 8 months
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*guy who had no control over his fate voice* it's all my fault
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fierrochaseist4t · 11 months
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damijon, timsteph, dickroy and rosecassie (as in wondergirl lol <3) for the ship bingo xoxo
OUSGISSHJ i could write literal essays abt each one of these
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okay so i have very mixed emotions about this one, bc on one hand i feel like in main continuity it wouldn't work out, but maybe in like an elseworlds thing it could??? but im also very much a fan of them not being romantic but not also being traditionally platonic so i just settle for calling them "a secret, more sinister third thing". also they're both trans. so like. t4t best friendship that only they (and me) really #Get. i just have so many complicated feelings about their lore and friendship and how damian's friendships are so inherently complex because of how he operates on a personal level and jon simply understanding and not needing damian to change a thing, they're just so content existing w each other and within each others spaces. i very much appreciate how even after all the change they've gone thru they're still close and care about each other, and i am also a massive fan of them both getting along with each others People
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OH LORD OK TIMSTEPH OK i don't think ive ever actually talked abt them before, but i should. they're t4t bi4bi most definitely. i actually did enjoy their relationship to an extent while they were dating but it wasn't entirely my cup of tea bc i tend to ship them w other people but the appeal was definitely there, like it was clear how much they cared for each other, its cute and its there and i can get behind it. i do actually prefer their dynamic as exes because of how rare it is to see m/f friendships without ulterior motives on either part, ESPECIALLY if the characters in question are exes, so it's actually refreshing to see them still have a caring dynamic without secretly being hung up on each other. i also think tim's regret over ending it the way he did was nice to see, because while it wasn't out of character to ghost her it also wasn't out of character for him to look back and realize "i could/should have handled that better" so i feel like it does well to convey how he does actually still love her even if not romantically anymore
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H. HHHH. SHAKES THEM
i feel like their dynamic in preboot comics is a hell of a lot better than anything the new 52 or rebirth had to offer. i miss when roy and donna were dick's best friends honestly. i feel like their relationship was sidelined a lot in favor of jason and roy and dick and wally which sucks because??? they were fine as they were?? they've got a lot of love and care for each other, especially in the 80s and 90s comics, they're always complimenting each other and telling each other how well they're doing but they're also not afraid to call each other out if one of them does some stupid shit, i think thats good for both of them. i also think roy's relationship w the bats would be funny, as well as dick's relationship with the arrows. they've both got similar family dynamics but also very different in a loooot of ways
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4) NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS SHIP SO *IM* GOING TO
i literally can't get over their rivalry, like they hated each other so much but also there was just something so unexplainable about them to me??? like idk i just always loved how they interacted even when they were arguing and fighting. i just KNOW if dc let cassie be butch in the 00s during the peak of their rivalry they would have kissed. i feel it in my bones. it's also nice to see since they've both got more complex relationships w the people around them it would be nice to see them sorta bounce off of each other in the respect that they've got a lot going on and they know how the other feels so they bond over the struggles of navigating relationships and friendships and just life in general. i also think it'd be funny to watch diana smack slade for saying smthn out of pocket at like an in laws family dinner or some other gathering but thats mostly just bc i think slade should be smacked in general
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Jaime Lannister was Personally Victimized
and so was I. An essay. Subtitled how we were wronged, how he was wronged, how Brienne was wronged, how Braime was wronged, and how years of development was wronged. 
Let’s begin.
Now couple of things: I don’t read the books (plan to now.) so I’m just mostly going off the show and specifically this season, because this season had 2 Jaimes. This is probably not academically sound, or too terribly coherent, but I frankly just want to get my thoughts out there, because I was plump bamboozled with “The Bells.” Not just because it ruined so many seasons of juicy, believable, utterly transformative character development for my personal favorite GOT character, (and many others as well.) but considering the episodes that came before this one, it made zero sense. Because let me tell you, in 8 x 02, this lowkey Braime shipper was turned into major Braime shipper in the span of one hour, and I was literally made to believe they were endgame. Maybe not ride into the sunset with a bunch of kids on Tarth endgame, but made explicitly clear without a shadow of a doubt that Brienne was Jaime’s soulmate, true love...or whatever you want to call it.
All of this... all for this to culminate in him going back to Cersei. All for all those seasons of change for him to revert to season one, episode one, the things I do for love Jaime. From a storytelling perspective, there is no satisfaction. and it makes NO sense. Now of course D&D are all about “subversion,” but what was done to Jaime was not a witty or clever subversion of a redemption arc, but a complete and utter cancellation of all those years of hard work that they put in and that Nik put in, in order to get us to like Jaime. Jeremy Jahns in his review on YouTube said it best: Jaime Lannister was stabbed in the back. Furthermore, what they did to Jaime, (and let’s face it, he’s not the only one in this catastrophe that was personally victimized.) basically posits the really terrible message that “you can’t change your nature or where you came from or be different from your parents. (Which is what happened in Dany’s case. To be clear though, I think the signs were there for her, but it was poorly executed.) 
Either way, such a great message. What happened to Jaime also made no sense from a character perspective. Sure, Mr. I don’t care about innocents. ha. ha. ha. I also totally stabbed a guy in the back when I was 17 because he was going to kill innocents, thus giving me my name and eternal shame. Ha ha ha, look how consistent I am.
You’re not the Jaime Lannister that came to Winterfell. Jaime Lannister died in Brienne’s arms one night and a robot was sent in his place to go to Cersei.
Now this post won’t be talking about the major character inconsistencies (sure you don’t care about innocents Jaime SURE.) or go more into the terrible messages one can get out of this season (and Game of Thrones in general) or go into more detail about how subversion and spoiler culture is ruining good storytelling, but I will say that it reads to me that because such a common theory before Season 8 was that Jaime was going to kill Cersei, D&D thought to themselves hmmm better not do that because that’s what people expect, and in wanting to shock and surprise they invalidated his growth and development by making him die with her. Oh look, D&D. So clever. Yet in stroking your ego you gave the people that once trusted you a taste of ashes. Like...people figuring out where things are going to go is actually GOOD storytelling. 
More so though, this will focus on how the episodes before this one were framed and how the tone was set up. Because watching episode 2, 3, and most of 4...they made me believe Braime was endgame. They really did. Then they turn it around and make me expect it was always Cersei? 
Utter garbage. Jaime was wronged. So was Brienne. that’s another post though. (so is Missandei, and Dany... and heck we can actually talk about who WASN’T wronged this season.) But with the Kingslayer, let’s get started and discuss how everything, literally everything, was set up in favor of Jaime’s redemption and endgame with Brienne, all for it to get, quite literally, squished.
(sorry if that was a bad joke considering)
Now into the meat and potatoes. First of all, let’s talk about Jaime’s look this season. Is he even blonde anymore?
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Both he and Tyrion, who symbolically abandoned the Lannister crest seasons ago, sure aren’t sporting that golden blonde look anymore. I mean Tyrion kind of is, but compared to Cersei:
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it’s nowhere near it for both these boys. (heck, I would even argue Jaime starts to lose his signature Lannister look when he meets Brienne.) However, if Season 7 Jaime chooses to hide his golden hand, the Jaime that walked into Winterfell with darkish hair, beard, and cute bangs is really, really removed from his Lannister golden lion look. Furthermore, he even said in 8 x 02 his golden lion days are done. Now why. Tell me WHY we do these things in the costuming department all to send him right back to the lioness? WHY
Now I said I wasn’t going to talk about the terrible themes and messages D&D are positing with this season, but I do have to say that considering episode 4, with Jon talking to his sibling-cousins, and Sansa, Arya and Bran’s discussion about not trusting people, and then Jaime going back to Cersei...the writers are really out here saying that family is all that matters. Literally all. And sure, I love my family, I have a great family. But sometimes, like with Jaime and Cersei, families are toxic. Sometimes the bonds you make with others that aren’t your family are more meaningful than the ones you have with blood. Sam and Jon are like brothers even though they’re not related, and Jaime’s bond with Brienne was far, far more meaningful than with Cersei. It was Brienne, not Cersei that elevated him into wanting to be a better man.
But lol, guess not. it’s like what that one guy from Aladdin yells at Aladdin, “YOU WERE BORN A STREET RAT, YOU WILL DIE A STREET RAT” except with Jaime it’s “YOU WERE BORN A LANNISTER YOU WILL DIE A LANNISTER” except Jaime didn’t get an Aladdin moment where he proves the snooty prince wrong--he just regressed and left his Jasmine all alone crying.
Another thing: ignoring the awful character growth invalidation, if Jaime was going to go back to Cersei just to be with her (and not kill her/convince her to stop as a lot of us, including me, thought in 8 x 04), there just wasn’t enough buildup for him to make this change in episode 4 come “The Bells.” He was happy with Brienne, smiling with Tyrion, (above gif) then he gets news from Sansa and he’s like nah I better bounce? I could buy Jaime thinking he has to save Cersei at least for the sake of the baby, an innocent life. I can even buy Jaime with a guilt complex, thinking he doesn’t deserve his happiness with Bri and it’s in his place to be by her side because of family and the things Tywin used to tell him...IDK there’s a lot we could speculate. But I cannot buy that the same man who walked out on Cersei in season 7 and then STAY AT WINTERFELL FOR A MONTH WITH BRIENNE would just be like...in the span of literally five show minutes with no real good explanation go nah it’s always Cersei when he showed it WASN’T. Now call me crazy, but this could have, could have been done in a believable way if we had seen the spiral. but we needed more with Jaime and Brienne, more hints with maybe his struggling to be happy but being guilty and him realizing he did have a child on the way, wanting to do better for that baby than they did to the others. Just a kind of ambiguous glance at Brienne after a session of sex (after their first time, which he was very enthusiastic about BTW) isn’t enough to convey such a drastic one eighty, nor is him looking pensive after another night with Brienne. (and you know they totally had oathsex that night. Bri was naked it looked like and she came out in robe.) 
Now had this happened, I would have still hated it for the terrible message about “always go back to your toxic family,” but it would have played out much more like a Shakespearean tragedy than a random and giant middle finger to Jaime’s arc and Brienne’s character for the sake of a subversion. And heck, I could have forgiven this too if “The Bells” played out differently, and Jaime, realizing Cersei is too far gone, does what we always thought he would do.
*sigh* 
Now let’s talk about him and Brienne and how it was filmed/framed. Now either I’m just naive or a big sap (truth to those statements), but it seemed to me that Braime was purposely filmed as though they were the OTP of this final stretch of Game of Thrones. episode 2-half of 4? this disaster human was all BRIENNE BRIENNE BRIENNE. All for it to go CERSEI CERSEI CERSEI. 
Episode 2 Jaime and episode 5 are not the same person, at all.  FROM THE VERY BEGINNING in episode 2, this man looked at Brienne of Tarth like she was the sun,the stars, his everything, casting glances at her during the whole “trial scene.” Talking to Tyrion, he plump ignored him to stare longingly at Brienne from the ramparts. He knighted her with such beautiful ceremony, and the way they looked at each other after? 
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A knighting? A marriage? both? 
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these people all think they’re going to die, but instead of lamenting Cersei, “all that’s mattered” at least according to “the bells,” (LOL) Jaime Lannister wants to give Brienne of Tarth this beautiful act of love. and symbolically marry her And then he looks at her and he’s THAT devoted and such a smitten kitten.  
Episode 3. He never left her side during the whole battle. He saved her, then she saved him. Then this shot:
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and the other shot of them, fighting side by side? this is literally a fic trope. 
Ok so then the oathsex happens but before it happens, there’s a shot of oathkeeper in Brienne’s room, AKA the symbol of their bond and their love. Then they do it, and I know some people have mixed feelings about it, but I personally liked how it happened, even loved how it happened. It was awkward. Jaime said “I don’t want things growing on me” (though he’s made it pretty clear someone has grown on him, great line.) He liked it when she took charge. He reminded her it was a first time for him too. And then they have a kiss that really, in my opinion, culminates the years of bickering and sexual tension. It was my personal favorite GOT sexy scene, because it felt so real. He sleeps with her and they live like lovers for a month. They ARE lovers for a month or so.
and then he leaves and that look he gave her? 
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that was the look of a man who thought he had to give up on his beloved. Not a man who didn’t love this woman anymore. He’s defeated and broken but he is not not in love.
basically, all the clues (and just THIS SEASON) led to Brienne being his true love. Not Cersei. In Jaime choosing Cersei over the woman who he looked at like he saw the sun not only has made the writers make some really unfortunate implications about toxic relationships, but they’ve also said that people can’t change. They’ve completely disrespected Brienne in the process, making her seem like she was just a blip on his radar... when she wasn’t. She was so much more. 
Now maybe all along, Jaime’s arc was not a redemption arc, but choosing who you want to be. Well, if that’s the case, it’s also a bad message. Apparently to D&D you can never change, you’re always doomed to head right back to square one, right back to “the things you do for love” and your toxic roots. If that’s the case then all Brienne was this season was a dangling carrot, a oh look what Jaime could have had if he wasn’t so addicted to Cersei.... sad sad SUBVERSION too bad he’s an ADDICT though! 
there’s no empathy. No respect. 
I have a bad feeling Bri’s pregnant too. And if that’s the case...if all this woman was supposed to do this season was carry the baby of a man who broke her heart just so the wheel wouldn’t truly break? They’re going to make Brienne just a vessel for a baby, making that Jaime’s “redemption?”
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so in conclusion: I was not only infuriated because D&D invalidated so much growth in favor of witty subversion that’s not witty and actually tastes like ashes and proports a toxic message, but what was done tonally made no sense, because Braime was filmed like they were “right.” They also wrote a Jaime that’s more akin to Season One Episode One Jaime, and not the one that came to Winterfell because he made a promise.  
I have almost no hope he is alive, D&D said so... but hey stranger things have happened. Nik is being quiet and hasn’t said goodbye to his character like everyone else has whose died already, but maybe he’s just salty/had time to process what happened/just busy right now/ waiting until the last episode to make a final statement. I mean this guy is kind of a troll, but he’s a classy dude and did an amazing job. But if it’s true, if Jaime’s end was to die under a rock, to go deeper and kinda soften this, I do think the Jaime that “died,” wasn’t a Jaime that romantically wanted Cersei, but a Jaime who loved her, finally, like an actual brother and not...the stuff before. There was no kiss, just an embrace. Someone trying to make an ending not so scary. 
either way, I never expected or even wanted Jaime to survive Game of thrones until it freaking looked like that he was for a hot minute and get that good sweet ending with the one woman who he truly loved. But if he died,I wanted something better than what he got. I wanted Jaime to die as someone who did do something for love, but for a love that wasn’t a destructive one, or a regressive one. Not the same love as season one episode one, but a transformative love. Someone who did the right thing. For someone who made such an impact on so many people, he deserved better. 
And I hear rhetoric from some, mostly not on tumblr, that I should  have expected a fan favorite character like Jaime to get a shitty end, because GOT is about subversion. But GOT, above all, has to succeed as a satisfying story for the thing as a whole, and for the characters. It has to make sense. This makes NO sense. And Jaime, such an important character in the mythos, shouldn’t go out like that. Neither should Cersei TBH. She deserved more than standing by a window. 
George. Give Jaime better. Please. Not necessarily a ride into the sunset ending with the one who transformed him, but one where he knows he’s a better person and has been transformed. One where he knows he’s changed for the better.
*peace*
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zcldrizes-a · 5 years
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idk i just want to know how you feel ,,, do you also think that narratively what was done to dany made no sense because it completely throws away the fact that she was 'special' in the sense that she had dragons for the first time in hundreds of years, aside from the character assassination? like dany being the dragon queen and the unburnt & mother of dragons is thrown away when it seemed like it was supposed to ... mean something?
honestly nonnie, i feel a lot of things right now and let me try my best to explain them as much as i can, because i have to be honest, i spent most of yesterday very empty following that finale, and now i think i’m finally ready to begin putting some of it into words.
the first is that i just feel like d&d missed the mark entirely when it came to her characterisation. if she was always meant to go mad - why did they have to spend the entire season isolating her from everyone in order to make this happen? it’s made very clear to us that she has no one - she’s at odds with half her advisors, and when that’s not the case, do they make much attempt ( outside of jorah ) to talk to her in a capacity that isn’t related to “my queen”? even jon himself ignores her and avoids her, and then after the reveal that he is her last family, still manages to isolate her but now it’s worse because we know that she was already aware she would be betrayed for him to be king by sheer fact that he has the rightful claim. a storyline which now, in the end, makes no sense other than narrative use to push her closer to madness, might i add? we see her lose her oldest friend, followed by her second dragon to die at the hands of an enemy, we see her lose missandei, we know at this point her army took the hardest hits ( until they respawned in the season finale because where the fuck did they all come from ) and the only thing she wants at this point is to be recognised as something other than “queen” because she’s realising that’s the only thing that she’s seen as, and we get literally none of it.
this was a woman who was loved beyond the narrow sea - a woman who earned her loyalties, even ins how canon. we only need to look at missandei in season 7 - “she’s not our queen because of some king we never knew; she’s the queen we chose” - or tyrion in season 7 - “she protects people from monsters” - to see that her actions were revered there because they were selfless. and suddenly we get closer to this goal that she’s wanted all her life, and in the space of the last few episodes, she physically takes hit, after hit, after hit, on top of the mental trauma of her isolations all through her time in the north, and it just felt so forced as a justification for her going mad so that they - the writers - would cop less critique,
a lot of people keep saying that in the books there’s many more hints for it, but for as many hints of the targaryen madness ( and can i just say on the “madness” - what the fuck is this madness meant to be? clearly targaryens aren’t born bad - viserys took the final loss of giving up his mother’s crown for him to be cruel, and we see they literally have to force it on dany to trigger her “madness”. let me pose a question: is this “madness” or is this just grief and anger and the desire to hurt someone who hurt you, and if so, why do we conflate the two? ) we get as many hints of the opposite. ( Dany had no wish to reduce King’s Landing to a blackened ruin full of unquiet ghosts. She had supped enough on tears. “I want to make my kingdom beautiful, to fill it with fat men and pretty maids and laughing children. I want my people to smile when they see me ride by," ) so for this to be the ending to all of the special things she did, just...? i have to be honest, i thought her destiny books wise would be to die as per the nissa nissa / azor ahai prophecy, and i would have been happy with that.
i would have been happy seeing her dying trying to make a better world, but instead we get a forced death because the show wanted to convey that she “wasn’t done” and wanted to continue her fights elsewhere in breaking the wheel, and it just made no narrative sense to me beyond needing to continue being the final trigger in her descent to “madness”. she is used as a plot device to justify jon still being good, and to justify how good and selfless these men are - did tyrion not kill his lover in jealous rage, after her betrayal, with his bare hands? his own father? did jon not also kill innocent people?
and no, i’m not justifying her acts at king’s landing, it’s more of just a question that even before her acts there, she was already being questioned as going mad - why is it ambitious women are “mad” but ambitious men are “fulfilling their destiny”?  and on that, let me reiterate, we went from two competing female power claims in cersei and daenerys, to a council of mostly men who literally laugh at democracy as an ideal, before placing a man in power - and their justification is that he has a good story to tell? that he won’t succumb to emotion? wasn’t the critique on dany and cersei that they were cold and calculating, and yet simultaneously, that they were hysterical, and deranged, and mad? why do we punish women for being emotionless and emotional simultaneously, but we don’t critique their male counterparts? yes, it’s a feudal world and gender roles are still a thing - but this is a show divergent of those books, where we’ve seen modern ideals thrust in before, and at a time where we need women the most, we reverted back to men being the heroes of the story. already, i’ve seen posts and comments on videos from men literally laughing about dany’s rape and saying she deserved it, after what she did. i’m sorry, what? this is 2019, how are we still using sexual violence to hurt women even in retrospect, i’m?
and finally, literally just, i fucking hate the message behind it all. this was a survivor of rape and abuse, who in the end, was a victim to her own mental state and paranoias, and who died yes loved, but unaware of that love. what does that say to so many of us, who resonate with her story? how am i, as someone who has been through my own traumas similar or different, who saw her as someone to look up to, as someone who was special and strong, meant to reoncile that? she wanted to break the wheel and build a better world - is the wheel not in place, still? the iron throne is gone, but we still have a king? we still have lords and ladies deciding who will take the throne next? we have privileged people on the council - and for some of them, underqualified but chosen just because they happened to be there? if the dragons were born for the first time in years, what for? the war against the dead? because she got no acknowledgment for that. what was the point of daenerys targaryen, except for to rid the world of cersei lannister? how did we come from villains like joffrey and ramsay and euron to the ultimate villain being a victim of rape and trauma and abuse? how could the writers even back that development and turn her into that?
and maybe that’s why i’m so bitter at everyone who got their happy endings. i can’t cheer about sansa as queen of the north, because it’s such a sharp contrast to what dany lost. i can’t cheer on jon coming back to the wall, because the only way we got that ending was to destroy dany’s. i can’t be happy about the new council, or the king, when daenerys got so destroyed. and the thing is, i can’t justify her actions or support her, because what she did was wrong, and there’s no explanation behind it, and they’ll never be canon on this blog for that reason alone, that i can’t comprehend why she’d do it - but i also can’t abandon her, or hate her, and i don’t think i’ll ever be able to. one of the writers for the show said now whenever you watch the show, you’ll see her story as the rise of a villain instead upon rewatch, and it just fucking breaks my heart that she’s reduced to that. it’s a time for wolves, but they killed the dragons to get to that point, and i fucking hate it. so in summary nonnie, i don’t understand the point. and i’m hurt, and i’m sad, and i’m numb, and at this point, i have nothing else to say except that i hope george takes the overwhelming backlash from her developments this series and gives her the ending she deserves.
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rocinawanda · 5 years
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the end of an era
game of thrones finale. spoilers of course
I loved the finale. I cried multiple times. The first half of the episode moved a little slowly but after Dany died it picked up and got to where I thought it would be.
I feel like this post needs to be really long to convey all my emotions regarding this show like how hearing the theme song at the end continued to bring me to tears. So i’ll just go character to character to make this easier.
Daenerys. I still love her. I loved her all the way through the series and that hasn’t changed. She needed to die and I was not surprised that it happened I started suspecting it two years ago. Because I saw it coming I didn’t feel much sadness when Jon initally killed her but when Drogon came up and started nudging her with its nose I started bawling. I’m still hurt I felt Drogon’s grief and him burning the iron throne was amazing and so poetic agh I cannot. I am so glad they didn’t kill him because I was wondering before the episode what would happen to him after she died. My theory was that they would “set him free” and I guess it pretty much came true he took her body and flew off east. Probably towards Valyria or something I don’t know but I’m glad he’s alive and away from Westeros.
Jon. I’m sad. I kept saying “it’s not fair!” but it is. Sending him to the wall, bringing it full circle. I’m sad for him that he’ll never marry or have children and ffs he gave his life for the nights watch once just to end up there again its bittersweet justice. However, seeing him reunite with Ghost I SQUEALED AND HIT EVERYTHING HE GOT HIS GOOD BOY PATS and riding off with Tormund and the Free Folk almost felt right for Jon like there was no other ending that would suffice. Like they could’ve made him king simply because he was the heir but this felt right for the end.
Sansa. or should i say QUEEN SANSA QUEEN IN THE NORTH LADY OF WINTERFELL OMG. I’m still yelling. I was wondering why she was hesistent to Aye Bran becoming king but yes I remembered she wants the north to be independent and I can agree with that. and HOLY FUCK IT FELT SO GOOD. DID YOU SEE HER MY QUEEN. Whenever I think about it I start yelling. She got the ending she deserved. She has been shown to be the best ruler the North could have like lets be serious. I’m so happy for her. Its also very funny like a Stark is King of the Six Kingdoms and the last kingdom is also ruled by a Stark aka HOUSE STARK FTW.
Arya. When she started the “what’s west of Westeros” line I started sobbing I knew instantly that she was going to go find it. I can see that is where she would want her life to be. Because honestly, I didn’t know what Arya would want to be I couldn’t come up with any theory because I had no idea, I know she didn’t want to be a lady, I was sure she didn’t want to be a killer/assassin anymore. But an explorer? I can fuck with that. Sad about Gendry I was hoping the shots around the boat would show him beside her but that would be pure fanservice he is Lord of Storms End now and I need to accept it lol.
Bran. All hail the king. UNEXPECTED. He was probably the last person I would expect to become king but damn they made it make sense. He will be a good king. I don’t know if he can be helpful strategically but hey the last king after a war was Robert Baratheon and he was only good at war and was a terrible king so I think Westeros could benefit from one that is very smart, wise and can recall all of the mistakes their ancestors have made in little time. Also his comment at the end that he may be able to find Drogon made me think he was gonna try to Warg him but like from how far away lol. Also when Tyrion said ‘Bran the Broken’ I did start crying because idk I felt it, like damn he really is the king and that is his title.
Tyrion. GLAD he didn’t die. Being hand of the king is his position lol that last small council scene was brilliant although I am still surprised they actually gave Lord of Highgarden to Bronn the whole scene was hilarious. Gold. But damn Tyrion, he’s been hand of the king twice now and hand of the queen. Also Glad Davos is a lord now and on the small council he deserves it.
Grey worm. I was worried what he would do in the end but I’m glad he accepted it and him and the unsullied are going to Naath.
Game of Thrones. I have loved this show. I have watched since season 4 aired so around 5 years now. I will miss this show so much. My blog name is literally thronesense for game of thrones and sense8, two shows which have now ended. I don’t know if i’ll eventually end up changing it, probably. Nevertheless, I have loved watching the world of this show grow and the characters grow with it. So many twists and turns that I have enjoyed SO MUCH. I will allow it to live on for me through me rewatching it over the years and the fanfiction i’m sure people are already writing lol.
Altogether I can say that my favourite seasons of game of thrones in order from my most to least favourite go S4, S3, S6, S8, S1, S7, S5, S2. I can say this now after rewatching and seeing all of season 8. Each season had parts I enjoyed and parts I didn’t it was just that some like season two had more parts that I didn’t find interesting than ones I did. Altogether they make up an incredible tv show that I won’t ever forget.
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season 5
Season 5 was actually better than I remember. I still think they do a shitty job of making Sansa’s marriage to Ramsay make any goddamn sense in Littlefinger’s overall ~scheme~ but once I accepted that I could move past it. As Sansa says in season 6, either he knew what Ramsay was and he’s her enemy or he didn’t know and he’s an idiot. Neither quite makes sense.
And obviously I love Sansa and this season both sucks and is important to her character arc. Sophie does a lovely job as ever. IDK. It was hard to watch.
The lead-up to Jon’s betrayal is pretty good. I was never a huge fan of the Olly character but I appreciated what they were trying to do with him.
I also honestly forgot that it took so long for Jon and Tormund to become friends??? Like, in my head they’re BESTIES but actually Tormund doesn’t come around on him until they go to Hardhome in 5.08.
Hardhome is still good, btw. It’s a good battle. Honestly, I thought it was episode 9 because it feels like an episode 9.
The shit that goes down in the House of Black and White makes NO SENSE. I just need to get that out there. I hate the faceless men tbh and I wish Arya had done something else. I get it, like in terms of her plot and character arc and all that. I just hate them and find their cult extremely annoying.
I’m hoping if TWOW ever comes out, we get a little more convincing build up from “Stannis is a difficult man but he loves his daughter” to “Hell yes let’s burn Shireen!” Anyway, Shireen is PRECiOUS and did nothing wrong and deserved better.
Speaking of people who are precious and deserved better: MYRCELLA. I love her.
The Dorne plot sucks and we all know it. I still am not quite sure where the Dorne plot was going in the books but it was obviously LOADS better than this shitshow. And don’t even get me started on the stupid fucking sand snakes being characterized as super sexy poison temptresses or whatthefuckever. The entire thing where one of them keeps flirting with Bronn is insane, it’s like an old man’s disgusting fantasy. “Bad pussy.” #NeverForget
Cersei’s plot in this season is amazing bc it goes from her thinking she’s so smart and fucking with Loras and Margaery in majorly evil ways and us as viewers wanting her to get caught out for being a hypocrite, to us as viewers ROOTING FOR HER because the shit she goes through is so awful. Like, I don’t root for Cersei longterm. But her imprisonment? The walk of atonement? It’s such disgusting bullshit that I end up CHEERING when Qyburn and FrankenMountain show up to help her. And those dudes are the creepiest!
Obviously a lot of this is due to Lena Headey being AMAZING. Her face is soooo good.
I also think Jonathan Pryce as the High Sparrow is QUITE good. I hate him, but he’s excellent at being extremely earnest while doing despicable stuff that he genuinely believes is good.
Sam and Gilly. Cute as HELL.
So it turns out I was wrong that Tyrion never feels bad about killing Shae in the show, so that’s .... nice I guess. It doesn’t really help but it’s. Something. I’m trying to not hold this grudge forever. The show just fucked this up so bad.
Okay and that brings us to Daenerys and Mereen. Honestly? I think this plot is good because ruling is EXTREMELY hard. In the books I really fell in love with Dany during this arc, believe it or not. She felt the most HUMAN to me because for the first time since she’d gotten her dragons, she was running up against problems she couldn’t just burn down. In the show it’s not nearly as complex obviously, but they do a great job of conveying 1) how dangerous the dragons are, and 2) the fact that Dany truly doesn’t seem to know much about Mereen, nor did she have any political plans beyond “end slavery,” which, while obviously very good, isn’t a full plan to run an entire place. And the thing is? Dany realizes this. She herself says that if she can’t rule Slaver’s Bay, how will she rule Seven Kingdoms? She says that she won’t abandon Mereen and let the people she freed end up enslaved again. And yet .......... ultimately, what happens? Dany wants to do good, and she’s an excellent conqueror, but an excellent conqueror does not an excellent ruler make and unfortunately she kind of ends up using Mereen as basically an experiment that goes really wrong, before deciding, fuck it, off to Westeros, let’s leave Daario “let’s just kill everyone” Naharis in charge.
Sidenote: Am I the only one who feels kinda bad for HIzdahr? Like, he’s a little shit from a family of shits, but he works very hard to accommodate Dany, offers her tips on how to better rule and understand Mereen, and for that he’s threatened with being burned alive, imprisoned, and then forced to marry the woman who threatened/imprisoned him ... and then ultimately get killed by the very people he was trying to help smooth things over with.
I’m still frankly unconvinced by Varys backing Dany. Like, sure, she’s the best option among the known field of contenders, but he’s also seen no evidence that she has the capacity to rule the Seven Kingdoms with any success. I’m not saying he shouldn’t back her, just that he doesn’t even MEET HER before he joins her side. He arrives in Mereen just as she disappears on Drogon and is left to rule the city with Tyrion.
More on Dany disappearing on Drogon. I do feel like..... that’s the moment where she decides: her dragons are more important than her people. I think it’s crucial that she makes this decision. I think she still cares about the people, still very much wants to do good, but she was the Mother of Dragons before she was Mhysa, and that’s still where her priorities lie. The occasional dead little girl is worth the cost of her dragons’ existence and freedom, and her own goals.
Missandei and Grey Worm are still just THE BEST, their romance is so lovely and sweet and slow-burn. 
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What do you think is the BEST THING about asoiaf?
:O What a nice question omg!! Thank you!
The BEST thing??? Okay… Okay, in my humble opinion, the BEST THING about ASOIAF that keeps me entranced is how well GRRM does the POV chapter thing!
I’m cheating bc actually that one thing is supported by two: First of all, there’s how much thought he puts into it, and how many layers there are. I’ve reread all the books, some more than others (I must have relistened/reread AFFC at least 5 times, which is surprising, considering I wasn’t that into it the first time around!), and every single time I find stuff I hadn’t noticed before. And there are lots of things I never notice at all, but other people do! There are objective things, like vague references that suddenly become relevant on the reread, when you already know what it will lead to… but there are also subjective things, like the way a character constructs their thoughts, or even stuff like - Tyrion not being so good at guessing people’s ages! Sansa curating her own memories! It’s an extremely rich book, and - of course, I’m mad GRRM is taking so long, I wanna read it! - but OTOH it really pays off (in my opinion!!) when the result is something so deep. Also, I think it’s well made enough that you really can choose your “setting” when reading it. Yes, there is a LOT going on, but if you want to just fly by it all and read it in a rush just for the drama, you can! And if you want to read it super slowly while analyzing every sentence - you can do that too! So (IN MY OPINION) it is a book for all moods with an extremely high reread value and to fully enjoy it you need to do a little homework… my favorite things hahaha
The second thing that sustains the POV structure is that I think GRRM in general really respects his characters. There are exceptions (mumbles abt Selyse) but when it comes to the POVs, I have never stopped reading to cry “OOC!” or “that’s just happening for plot convenience and doesn’t match with the rest!!” (I’m lying, I definitely did that once or twice with Jon Snow, but eh whatever). He really manages to give an individual voice to each of his characters, and the POV system allows him to make very interesting non-POV characters too. Moreover, despite the shock value of a bunch of things, it’s pretty clear he has a pre-set path and the themes and narratives he constructs with his characters make a lot of sense. People who say he’s just having fun by making up random stuff to shock his audience are really not paying attention ;)
I already cheated and gave you two things but I feel compelled to add a third: I really think ASOIAF is a very sincere book? It has its cynical moments here and there, but I don’t feel GRRM is feeling smug and superior when infusing his book with violence: i think he really has something he wants to convey, and I respect that sincerity more than anything when it comes to art. That also means I forgive the tacky stuff, too… idk, it really feels like he puts his heart on it and it pays off! It’s not a perfect book but I really think it’s brilliant, and I love it very, very much. It’s not for everyone, but it’s definitely (been?) for me :)
What is YOUR favorite thing about asoiaf??
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zolganif · 6 years
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Anyone who reads my stories on fanfiction.net, I have to take a break from ambreigns for a bit. Or you could just say that I am going to try to finish the ones that don't deal with dark themes for now. I just can't bring myself to continue some I wrote. It doesn't feel right to do so atm.
I still do like to read ambreigns stories. Reading those brings me some form of comfort. I just don't like stories that try to use these mens personal lives as storylines or prompts in fiction. I thought it was very fucked up that some writers have even dared to use what Roman is dealing with right now. I don't care if some writers are still writing any ship that includes Roman, but please just don't write about him having cancer.
And also, for people who are having second thoughts about writing ambreigns again, I understand why. It can be hard now to write about a fictional character when we know that the man who portrays that character is going through a lot right now. But I just wanted to let you know thats it still okay to write ambreigns or just about any ship with Roman. Theres no need to feel bad about it or ashamed. If you want to continue writing it as a way to cope than thats perfectly fine too. Just don't try to use this leukemia he's dealing with as a plot in the story. And its not Roman that's dealing with it, its Joe Anoa'i. As long as you're being respectful then there isn't a problem.
I also want to apologize. I've made a mistake a few days ago that I truly do feel guilty for. When I wanted to write about how Dean feels now that Roman is away. Idk, but I guess I wanted to try and convey his emotions on how it would be for him if Roman and him are separated. Like far apart from each other. But not in a death like way, but more like a long distance relationship or that person had to go somewhere, you know? And yes, it was based off of him being away, but I didn't want to base it off from what he's dealing with personally. I realized that it wouldn't be right to do that though and I can see that it does come off as disrepectful. So, again. I am truly sorry for that everyone.
Anyway, I did write something though. It was poem that I want to dedicate to Joe. More as a way to let him know that its going to be alright and that he can beat this cancer. And to let him know we all care about him, wish to see him in good health again, that we believe in him. If you want to read it, I will post it here. The title of it is called Little Wolf. The inspiration for that title is based upon how much his character reminds me of one. And one of the first things I said about him when I first saw him on TV was that he is like a wolf in the ring. That was back in late 2015 when I got back into watching wrestling again. Was going through a hard time in my life and wrestling was that comfort for me. Especially seeing his and Dean's friendship. ❤
I can truly just imagine how Jon feels right now. He must be very devastated because he knows that theres that possibility he might lose his best friend. And I can bet right now he is going to miss carpooling with him, wrestling in the ring with him and whatnot. The only thing he can do is just be there for him and pray for the best. I wish I could offer some words of comfort for him. It is not easy when you don't know what the outcome of a situation like this will turn out.
But I really do pray that anyone who is close to Roman, friend family, doesn't lose him. They all have to remain strong for him and hope for the best.
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