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spockandawe · 1 year

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Hello, hi, sorry to bother you. Can I ask you a few questions about edge marbling? Cause I'm wanting to do a suminagashiarble on the edges of a book I'm doing and also it sounds terrifying. What I understand so far is that you get two boards and two c clamps, clamp the shit out of the edge of your book, and then dip. Do I round the book before I dip the fore edge? Will clamping the shit out of it prevent water damage? Do I have to dip relatively quickly? Does speed matter?

Thank you for your time

No problem at all!!!! So, disclaimer up front that I am just ad-libbing wildly based on vibes and instincts, and my instincts often skew in the direction of shortcuts and forgetting steps. So I'm not the MOST reliable resource, if something I say sounds iffy to you, please go ahead and question it and test it on your own and prove me wrong! Edge marbling takes place at a point in the process where failure would be HEARTBREAKING, so take whatever precautions you feel like you need! I tested some thrifted books I didn't care about before moving to books I had made.

The rounding is a hard question. I haven't marbled any rounded books, so I'm speculating here, but as you marble, having sides that trimmed and sanded at is CRITICAL. it isn't as finicky as for like, gilding, but you don't want to get bubbles trapped under your edge because that will leave a blank space in your color. it's less obtrusive in suminagashi than other marbling styles, but still a damn shame. When I round, I usually trim the fore edge flat afterwards. I like the look, some people don't. I would definitely be willing to marble an edge like that. If you want the concave look, you'll need to marble before rounding. And that's going to be... hard, because your edges need to be as flat as possible and your spine won't be fully glued yet. You might be able to get it good enough, but I would worry about bubbles. This is something you can't really test on a thrifted book, but I would sew a blank book or something to test on before doing it for real. Maybe clamping, sanding, marbling, and drying each edge separately before proceeding? I'm not sure, sorry.

Now, overall... When I do this, speed is definitely key, but rushing isn't good either, because some of the actions do need to be precise. It's a tricky balance to walk, but I would prioritize speed myself, rather than risk the integrity of the book. If I was being REALLY careful, I would use boards cut to be the exact size of my text block so I could clamp in one go, then dunk my sides one-two-three and get it out and leave it to press and dry. I don't, I use board scraps and move them between sides of the text block as I go. To facilitate that, I use these clamps specifically for this task:

These are spring loaded nylon clamps. They ratchet down with hand pressure, and when you trigger a switch in the handle, they SPRING open. It's much faster than a nice clamp, and gives me enough pressure for this task. I'm not trying to hold the text block in place while I hammer it. I'm just trying to stop water from soaking into the text block. And if I do this right, I'll be barely touching my text block to the water anyways.

I mentioned bubbles under your text block up above, but even more than that, I try to be careful about not letting the the boards overlap the edge of the book. I sometimes let them recess by a smidge, but overhang will DEFINITRLY guarantee a space where a bubble could be trapped. I try to keep a clean flat surface nearby where I can dip an edge, unclamp, move everything to a new side, and get it all freshly clamped, aligned with the new surface. Usually I'll just need to do the reclamping process twice max before I have to reset my marbling vessel anyways, so I usually just move fast and get a corner of my table wet, and wipe it dry later.

Then, the actual dunk. I usually go with a slight rolling motion along the length of the edge, from one corner to the other. This is another chance for bubbles to escape. But I also don't want to let the book go too deep. The clamps will help with water soaking in, but you still don't want to tempt fate too badly, and you don't need DEPTH to get the ink to take. I.... forget if I'm supposed to let it linger for a moment or not, but I usually don't. I take just long enough to be sure I've gotten the whole surface of the edge. Then I lift. I also don't remember if I blot it at all, but if I do, it's just a gentle touch against paper towels to make it stop dripping so bad, then I move to clamp the next edge.

Even if you move fast, by the end, you'll notice your first edges starting to swell up and maybe ripple a bit. That's just paper reacting to water. But also, no, bad, that needs to stop asap. As soon as I'm done. I press the text block HARD. I put paper towels and such on both sides, and then I put a LOT of weight on top of it. I want to get this as flat as possible and eliminate as much swell and ripple as I can. I usually end up with a *little* left over, but I can tell because I knew how flat it was before, it's not something I'm embarrassed to put in a binding.

I hope that helps!!!! I just kind of fudged my way through the process based on one short class on suminagashi I took and what little info I could find about other types of edge marbling. It's worked well for me, and was more forgiving than I was afraid at first. But it's still nervewracking! Best of luck with your efforts, I hope some of this is useful for you!

#spock replies #bookbinding #edge marbling

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lovelovefight · 10 months

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Day 1 of developing „Love, Love, Fight!“

Developing Jay Jay (Nby main chara - they/them and any)

Hi hi! This is me starting my journey of developing "Love, Love, Fight!" - a visual fiction (Comic/Manga/Webtoon) about 2 siblings (sister and brother) that fall in love with Jay Jay. However when they realise that their sibling perceives them as a different gender, they get defensive over their choice how they interpreted them at first and this creates a 'fight' between them (which is more like a rivalry) over defending their love (and sexuality due to internalised homo-/Biphobia) for Jay.

For my first day of actively working on the visuals - I already did the plot overview and have multiple,e chapter ideas, I decided to create Jay Jay. I'll call this day one of my DevLog.

So JayJay previously used to be Ren, then As, Hanaka and in the end they came to be "Jay Jay". The reason for that was because I originally wanted to make the setting in Japan, but found it to be too cliche and I had multiple scenes where I'm unsure of if they can happen in Japanese schools, as well as not being familiar with their system as well. Additionally, their ethnicity also was questioned as I designed them.

At first, I wanted to make them this very put-toghether, almost naive person that was very soft and kind. And then I had the problem of not coming up with any flaws besides them being horribly shy and I noticed I couldn't work with this for some reason. This isn't what I wanted them to be in the story.

Additionally, I wanted to put more thought into their design, make them more androgynous and have multiple options to choose from. So I scrapped the design and moved to re-design them.

Not to mention, they were known as 'Hanako' in this particular design. Though it was pretty cute……. I might re-use the design later on.

So I started thinking on where to start with my main subject. I wanted to change their name and the previous night I thot of Jay-Jay, and so their name was decided. To start with their decision, I stared with one of my most adored things: hair. So I drew up some concepts with straight hair before re-drawing some in different textures.

After asking a group of artists in the server, the type 3/4 hair Mohawk-like hairstyle won someone over and I was like: okay, phew, that was the hardest one for me to figure out, but I was like: nah, I’m gonna roll with this. And so I drew it and then next came Colours.

I knew I wanted to make them mixed - mixed African because of their hairtype, and I wanted them to have an olive skintone because I don’t do it so often, as well as darkskin. Currently they’re Indian-African but that might change in the future.

I thought something was missing after making their hair brown… and after that, I was like: okay, maybe adding Color will make the art POP. And it did! But it felt iffy - mainly because it was too saturated and clashed with the design and Colours. So I de-saturated the hair and changed the hue and honestly I’m very proud of my choices. (Before & after)

I also added a guide to their hair since I had troubles with drawing it.

For last, I made their body type. And I decided to go for an athletic build and at first I wanted to make them a basketball player, but then I thought it was a bit too stereotypical and made them a swimmer instead. Besides: they already looked like they’re ready for the swimming club haha.

And that’s about it for their physical build! Next up: the main characters (the siblings that have a crush on them) and their way of dressing.

#original manga #original character #character design #original webtoon #original webcomic #nonbinary #queer characters #queer manga #oc #comic development #character development #nonbinary character #love love fight

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fairestwriting · 3 years

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YAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!! THE BIG DAYYYYYY!!!

:DDDDDDDDDDD

Ok, ok, let's go to the request!

With dorm leaders, s/o comes and say: "I have a trade offer: I receive a ring on my hand and you receive a wonderful wife."

Riddle Rosehearts

"Huh— What— E-Excuse me?"

He almost drops his teacup. Did he hear that right? Riddle can't tell if you're joking or not, his face going red as the roses in the bushes around you, hands shaking.

And, well, do you mean it? This is very important, and he'll ask you if you do. Of course Riddle would take something like marriage very seriously... and you two are both still in school, so he's not allowing any weddings to happen yet, but... wouldn't it be nice, if you two were each other's until the end?

Leona Kingscholar

"Pfft... you really mean that, herbivore? I'll take it seriously, so beware..."

He's not exactly fazed. Being from a royal family, he's seen a lot of early marriages, political and not. Farena and his wife themselves didn't really take much time to get to know each other. Marriage talk doesn't scare him that easily.

...he would rather die than admit it, but, he's totally thought about you two getting married. Leona has this inherent devotion to him. He'll turn your conversation into flirty, easygoing banter, because he's not quite ready for that full commitment, but it'll come up again later, until he's serious about it.

Azul Ashengrotto

"Ah, w-what—? I mean, that does sound like a...g-good trade."

Mentally cursing at himself to hell and back, because damn, that was a good line, he should have given you a better response to that. He blushes and looks away as he pushes up his glasses, the very definition of uncool.

He'll follow your lead in that conversation, operating under the assumption that it was just a joke, but, if you want to make it a serious talk? Well... he's a little iffy on making such a big decision like this, but... it's you, and he'd be lying if he said he didn't want to at least entertain that thought...

Kalim Al-Asim

"Yes!!! One million times yes, of course!"

You'd think he isn't taking it seriously, with how he responds, but he is, actually! He's just too enthusiastic about the thought, this sunshine boy. He'd love nothing more than to spend the rest of his life with you! You're the one who makes him the happiest, after all!

You might have to get him to dial it back a little, actually, because Kalim is dead serious when he starts talking about your prospective wedding ceremony, all the dishes he wants at the reception, the music he wants to play, the colors of your clothes and accessories... now's not the time to think about that, but he's just so full of energy!

Vil Schoenheit

"How charming of you, potato. Do you really mean that?"

Not taking it seriously. He's assuming it's a joke, you're both still students, after all. Talking about marriage now just isn't a wise decision, when you have so much more going on in your lives, when you still have to get all these things together.

If you were really proposing there, well... he's not gonna be mad at you, but he'll gently scould you, cupping your cheeks as he tells you you're both too young to think about something like this. But if you're still like this in a couple years... you can use the same line on him, he might just say yes.

Idia Shroud

"Hiie— I'm not ready for marriage!"

He's terrified and flustered all at once. And happy, at a very, very well buried part of his mind — But mostly panicking, he has no idea what he'll eat for breakfast tomorrow or if he'll even be awake on time for that, you want him to think about something as serious as marriage?

It's better to drop the subject and say it's a joke, even if it wasn't. Idia's reaction might be a little hurtful, but he's just... really not okay with thinking about something like this, now. He'll apologize to you if he needs to, and maybe, when it's just the two of you, he'll cling to you and mutter into your shirt that he wouldn't mind if it was like that forever, but he doesn't want to think about forever now.

Malleus Draconia

"Oh, dear, I've been waiting for something like that..."

Takes it to heart completely. He usually knows how to read the room better than that but, honestly, if you're dating Malleus, it's because he wants you as his future consort. He won't bring that up while you're still students because he does have some level of common sense, but when you say that? He's ecstatic.

But he asks you if you're sure, and before you know it, he's listing off all the pros and cons that come to getting married to someone like him, like you both have the full intention of doing it. He won't be hurt if you tell him it was just a joke, though, he'll just be filing that talk away for later... though he feels silly for being so excited over it at first glance.

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envythepalmtree · 2 years

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15 for fma ask I know you got something good for that one aure 👀👀

15. What’s one thing you would change about the series and why?

ONE THING??

Hmmm okay. I'll do one for mangahood and one for 03. And I'll make them really big concepts so I can say more 🥰

Mangahood

I'd change the series's handling of race and imperialism. With Ed and Al, we'd meet Xerxesian descendants and see a diaspora community. With the Xing squad, we'd get rid of the Magical Asian trope (sensing qi? really?) and like. have them use alchemy/alkahestry to sense energy and stuff.

With young Roy Maes and Heathcliff, Heathcliff would get a personality outside of being The Ishvalan Kid. He'd get more lines. And either a) Roy and Maes help handle Heathcliff's bullies in a way that isn't super white saviorist or b) the narrative makes clear that while they were well-intentioned, they didn't do it right.

Miles would punch Olivier in the face for her comment about not caring about the Ishvalan genocide as long as he does his job. It can work canonically. They dueled or something. And when Ed says that shit about "I don't see color!!" maybe Miles doesn't react but someone teaches Ed why that's not okay.

I go back and forth on Scar's portrayal (and I have an ask sitting in my inbox from a long time ago about it lol). On one hand, it's not cool that he's presented as the villain against Ed and Winry, on the other hand he doesn't have to be a Good Genocide Victim yknow? But I'd delve deeper into his trauma and make it clear that it's not just the genocide itself, but the history of Amestrian imperialism that caused that pain.

And Ed's side note that "Amestris is an empire and was created by colonizing smaller countries!" would not be a side note. The story would delve deep into that violent history and how it shaped the world we see today.

Also, Envy wouldn't be the catalyst for the Ishval war. It seems awfully halfhearted that we have the homunculi start the war, and have Riza say "well it's humans that carried it out!"

It can still be a child's death that pushes the Ishvalans over the edge. Or maybe it's something else. Maybe there isn't even a Franz Ferdinand, a single event that broke the camel's back. Maybe the Ishvalans just got fucking tired of military occupation.

And seven years later, Wrath isn't the one who orders the genocide. Sure, he's still in charge, and it's still part of his plan. But the "final solution" was something that these nationalistic citizens wanted, plain and simple.

For the most part, I think the race themes in 03 are good (but I'm iffy about the Traumatized Brown Woman trope with Rose and I def don't like the Magical G Slur trope with Noah, or how she fits the stereotype of romani being prone to steal). Anyway that's for another post. For our purposes, my main problem with 03 is its handling of power dynamics.

And no, that's not me dressing up race in a different disguise! Lol! I'm more referring to power dynamics between individual people.

In the beginning, Ed is an eleven-year-old and dancing on the palm of Roy's risk-taking. We keep it that way, but it becomes abundantly clear that this is not okay. Sure, Roy did it to help, but he traumatized Ed even before he became a child soldier. The narrative shows! us! that!

In my version, Izumi never beats her students bloody. She never physically abuses them so badly that if this were in real life, they'd have concussions or permanent disabilities from it. Because that's really not cool, 03! They're not so fucking terrified of her that when she shows up Ed tries to climb out the window to escape. Izumi doesn't tie them up like prisoners to take them to her place. We just do what mangahood did, where they come willingly!

Maes working Sheska to death isn't played for laughs. She's a vulnerable worker; I think she dropped out of college, and she needs. money to pay her mother's medical bills. When Maes piles her with so much work that she looks physically exhausted, keeps her working long hours and doesn't pay her overtime, and shows no sympathy when she cries from the stress, it's not played as a joke! Sheska doesn't take it; she fucking stands up and fights back.

Also, Maes doesn't kidnap Winry because the show did that as a joke and I did not find that funny.

Speaking of kidnapping Winry! Barry the Chopper doesn't dress up as a woman to do it. Maybe the whole wolf in sheep's clothing, "man in a woman's dress" trope didn't have blatantly transphobic connotations in 2003 but now it definitely does. He just looks like a harmless man and Winry climbs in his truck. Or maybe he has his wife lure her. Either way is better.

Also, Dante's power over the country is shown in a systemic way, rather than just random alchemists making philosopher's stones. The fall of Xerxes and other civilizations has ripple effects we see in Amestrian society.

Fma asks

#fma meta #fma brotherhood #fma 03 #fma crit #fma race themes #fma power dynamics #yes those are new tags now #racism cw #genocide cw #abuse cw #transphobia cw

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lavenderbexlatte · 3 years

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Hello!!! Welcome to 🦋 anon's probably-way-too-overthought analysis on the m&m series in light of the new part. I have stopped crying and had about 24 hours to think, and I have discovered I have many thoughts, and this will probably be way more detailed than it should be.

The first thing I would like to address are some of the accusations Chan made at the end of the most recent part. (While I understand that they're supposed to not quite be accurate because of their obvious root in insecurity, and a lot of what I'm saying may just be like "yeah, obviously," I still would like to tell at the character a bit but I can't so this is what I have.)

Claim #1: "You fucking came at us at that party with your little girl-dom agenda and the guys fell for it, hook line sinker!"

This one's fairly self explanatory, no she didn't. They literally came onto her, even him, with his "There’s that pretty blush," and "Whatever you want it to be," lines. (And while yes, it's very likely that he was just trying to play it cool, but there's no way she could've known that, I'll come back to this later.)

Claim #2: "Nobody fucking asked me what I wanted!" "Nobody asked if I was sure that I wanted…"

Also mostly false, but he does have a tiny bit of a point. Yes, reader did grab his hair without asking, which is a little iffy, but she didn't actually rough with him until he goads her on. But I would argue that the reader is actually the ONLY one who asks him what he wants, if he's okay with things. While there may have been a little bit of discussion on the decision to approach the reader that we didn't see because of perspective (him saying this is kind of telling me that there wasn't, or at the very least not enough, maybe even some pressure for this to be the moment), or maybe Changbin said something while reader is with Jisung on the couch, after that, we don't see Jisung and Changbin check in with him at ALL, and there's not really an opportunity any other time for it just not have been noticed by the reader. As his partners, and the ones in the situation who have the full knowledge of Chan's situation, it should've been their responsibility to make sure he was alright throughout the process, even if they're not the ones in control for this situation, ESPECIALLY if they're going to keep this information from their Domme for the night (which really, I would say, wasn't a good idea, but no one is required to out themselves so I'll leave it alone).

HOWEVER, the reader does check with him, several times. She asks for boundaries/hard limits/etc before they even start anything, and while again, he's not required to say "hey, having a sexuality crisis, first time with a girl, kinda nervous," and he may not want to tip off Jisung and Changbin that something's wrong, that would be the time to say something like "I'm not feeling anything rough tonight, if you could be gentler that would be great." She asks them if there's anyone that doesn't actually want to fuck her. Also, she implements a safeword system (which she specifically calls him out to make sure he's okay with), which they weren't even going to USE, and asks them at least twice throughout the scene for their color, and Chan specifically if he's okay at least two more times besides that. Actually Chan almost makes fun of her for asking so many questions, so I think this claim is just another part of his insecurity-fed delusion that she's conspiring to ruin his life, or something, but again I'll come back to that. My point is that despite being the only one who doesn't know his situation, reader is also the only one who checks in with him.

There are a few other things he said that I took issue with, but those are the main two.

Next; Chan's delusion that reader is like conspiring to ruin his life. (Really like how you depicted this by the way, though I may be thinking wayyy too far into this.) I remember watching some video when I had one of my mental health/disorders hyperfixations. The video was about schizophrenia, and while I definitely don't think Chan has schizophrenia, one of the things the video talked about was types of delusions, and this kind of reminded me of one of them. I don't remember what it's called, but it's basically a delusion based around one idea, and then you force the world around you to fit into that idea. One example of this that I can think of is Azula from ATLA. Towards the end of her arc in the TV series, she starts seeing hallucinating her mother everywhere, and you get a peek of her fixed belief that her mother is behind everything that has gone wrong in her life, which is expanded upon a little bit in the books. Obviously Chan's not experiencing delusion to the extent that she did, but I did see some (albeit much less intense) parallels that were interesting. See, if he only talked about how his boyfriends seemed to like the reader more than him, that would be one thing, but he brings up his mother as well, which even though they did speak, it's a little out there to say that your mother likes someone she's talked to once more than you. That, combined with his insisting that the reader is playing some sort of game makes me think of that a little.

Of course this was only at first, when I was like "wtf, where is this 'my boyfriends like you more than me' thing coming from?" And then I reread the first few parts for this monstrosity of an ask that I'm writing rn. While at first I thought that this was entirely out of left field, when I read through the first few parts, especially the second one, with the knowledge that he felt that way, I noticed a few things you had put in there.

For the majority of the scene, or at least the first good chunk, the reader deals with Jisung and Changbin alone, leaving Chan by himself to watch. Obviously, as we see the reader's perspective, we know that it's because she found Chan's attitude intriguing and wanted to be able to deal with that one on one (at least that's what I got from it), it's easy to see now how to someone who's already insecure about their relationship and themselves, that would read as someone replacing you. Especially when Jisung, with no ill intent, but still, outright rejects his help in favour of the reader, and once again, he is left out, only this time it's accompanied with the sting of knowing (or at least feeling) that your partner didn't want you involved.

Now I kinda want to go character by character, and idk, talk about what I think they did wrong? We'll see, I'm not going to edit this so here we go.

Jisung and Changbin : Honestly, looking back on 3racha's first encounter with the reader, they really should have done better as Chan's partners. Like I said earlier, as the ones who knew Chan's situation, and the ones who likely pressured him slightly into he whole ordeal, it was really their responsibility to make sure Chan was okay with everything that was going on. That, and them feeling the need to sneak around with reader behind Chan's back doesn't sit right with me. I get that they have an open relationship, but there's a difference between having an open relationship and hooking up with someone your partner doesn't like, and actively trying to hide that you're hooking up with them. Their relationship boundaries may be fine with that, but idk, something feels off about it.

(I couldn't figure out where to put this and you may have already addressed this but it's my little theory/headcanon that Chan actually suspected it was reader at Jisung's place, and when there wasn't anyone there, he kinda gaslighted himself afterwards, idk. With the new knowledge it feels likely.)

Also, knowing that they were together for a while before Chan joined the relationship I think explains so much about the communication issues they seem to have with him. While I do think Chan has trouble communicating his feelings about things, I think their established communication and knowing eachother really well doesn't help. I may just be making things up at this point, but I feel like they have trouble with communication with Chan specifically, maybe forgetting that he doesn't have the same time/experience thy have with each other? If that makes sense?

Chan : oh boy. I've gone into a lot of detail already, so I'll try to keep this brief. Obviously, I think he has a looooottt of insecurity he needs to work through. If I were reallllyyy analyzing this I would say maybe a past cheating partner(?), but unless that's relevant to the plot I'm not sure if that's just me reading too much into this. Also mentioned before, COMMUNICATION ISSUES. One thing that would prevent half of the issues with this series is Chan communicating with his partners, though I suppose that wouldn't be near as much fun to read. Or just communicating I'm general, like I said, he had a plethora of opportunities to communicate to reader if he wanted something different, and didn't. So, yeah. Honestly I think he causes most of his own problems, but I feel like we knew that.

Reader : Now. I spent most of this series completely on the reader's side. Last night after reading part six, I was like "oh my god. He's right!" But then I took a while and thought a lot about it (as you can see), and honestly, I think reader probably did the least wrong out of everyone. Yes, the hair thing was a little iffy, like I said earlier, but once I went back and realized that he was actively participating and egging her on, I don't think that's necessarily something she did wrong. Beyond that, she did the most in regards of communication (at least during sex, after is another story), even more than the partners themselves. I think she did the best she could with the information that was given to her. She saw three guys approach her as a unit, and while yes, she didn't ask before engaging with Chan, I don't think it's really her fault for assuming that they were all interested as a unit as well. She had no reason to question any of their sexualities, why would she? She sees three partners approach her in unison, why wouldn't she assume they were on the same page? Anyway, all that to say, I think reader is the most innocent of all the main characters so far, though I may feel different after sitting on this for more time.

Anyway, here's this unedited brain dump, loved the new part, enjoy. Or not ig - 🦋

i've been sitting on this for like a week bc it's just so long and amazing??? and i have no idea what to say?? 🥺🥺

the bit about chan having a sort of delusion that reader is out to ruin his life in a pointed, conspired way is VERY interesting. their dynamic is actually something that i pulled from myself, in a way. i'm really superstitious about dumb things. i hate, like, bumping into someone or accidentally saying something that hurts someone's feelings bc i know that that karma/vibe/intention (whatever you wanna call it, i'm not spiritual just paranoid) is gonna come back around.

reader is the opposite. she's just walking around doing things and thinking about herself, and then being shocked when there are equal and opposite reactions to the stuff she does. i overthink everything, so reader doesn't think nearly enough.

but lemme say

that the best thing you said is how jisung and changbin are absolutely not the innocent bystanders that everyone seems to think they are 🤐🤐 most readers LOVE those two. but think about it...what are they trying to accomplish, here? 👀

#🦋 anon #a long one!!! a good one!!!#wishing feedback #tw schizophrenia #just a mention but i'll tag just in case

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