Worst thing you ever encountered besides recent events (such as Truck X and Poacher)?
I can determine what Poli and Amber could had experienced as their worst encounter within their respective fields, especially with the nuance and range of said fields. In fact, ACAB (All Cops Are Bastards) exist because of shit police people do (not Poli tho...I hope) which is basically anything but keeping safety and peace, while there are multiple mishaps within the fields under medicine and paramedics, from misinformation on diseases and disorders still going on, distrust on (sorry for swearing) ACTUAL FUCKING CERTIFIED PROFESSIONALS, and the struggles of medicine in general.
But for your field? I dunno. Either bc I wasn't that interested with it (no offense!) or that I'm hyperfocused on the others', but I couldn't form a general thought on what your worst encounter is. Either it's not saving someone from a disaster like a fire, or something else like scandals (or basically evil being evil and getting away w/ being evil), I'm curious!
~Anon Dave
Roy: I didn’t work with another rescue team before joining the Broomstown however I remember the academy had a lot of bullying against girls becoming firefighter. The staff tried to stop it, I tried intervening sometimes but I had my own home problems and Poli was also getting bullied since his English was bad so it was rough.
I did most of them graduate and joined my hometown rescue team. They’re a lot better than some of the men firefighters from what I’ve seen before leaving. Not sure what’s going on with them but I hope they’re doing we,,
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I'm going to post what is I guess a story relating to my personal experiences being on this earth. This is mostly for my benefit. Look if you want I guess, but just know that there will be some potentially triggering stuff, but I don't know what it is, so I can't tag it right now
My Life as a Monster
You stare at me like I'm some sort of beast, a thing merely meant to be caged. Something you feel the need to be protected from. You watch, knowing that I can't get you from your bedroom window, at the spectacle you think I am. You aim your camera at me, the flash reflecting off the glass I sit behind, as you film and photograph me for no other reason except that I'm here. When I'm among you, you stare at me with mocking gazes, your eyes becoming yet another set in an endless number of pairs that make their way to dig into mine. No matter how well I think I'm camouflaged, you always sniff me out, and then you let me know how I'm unwelcome here.
I'm especially afraid of women. All humans my same age startle me, but women more so. Women have always been more scornful to me. They told me how unwanted I was for me to hear. They shunned me from their groups, leaving me an outcast as a child. Women do not like me, I know this as fact.
Their actions are always deliberate. Humans make it a point to leave me out, to the point I feel I'm not one. I may have lost my humanity, turned into a beast, or maybe both at once, but I know for certain that there are times where human is something I'm not. I may be the monster stuck inside a human husk that I think I am, or perhaps I'm an outcast being overdramatic, but I know that humans do not like me. I do not fit in. I am but a beast.
As if being ostracized as a child wasn't enough, you continue to gawk at me. What have I done to receive your judgement? Why must you hunt us beasts? Mother doesn't understand why I don't leave the cave, as if I ever could. If I leave the cave, the humans will stand watch, waiting to scout me out.
My existence is a worldly secret, and a secret I shall stay. If I seek out a place amongst the humans they will reject me. No human will want me as a partner or friend. I am a beast in a world where existence is a joke. To avoid their mocking eyes, the cave is where I stay.
I know humans are resilient beings, that they can choose to change, that acceptance of us monsters is not unheard of, but I do not depend on it. When you've lived the life of a beast, you prepare yourself for scorn. Your hopes mustn't be up too high, else you'll fall and break your horns. I wish I was the fuzzy, colorful beast that humans love, but I am not. I am a dark, shaggy beast, with curled, antler-like horns, fangs, claws, and eyes that glow white in darkness. I am not a friend to them, I am something to be hunted.
As much as I love being my beastly self, I fear being myself is what's causing my downfall. I don't want to change to make myself palatable to the humans. They do not deserve it after what has happened to me. Even so, a monster like me still wonders what connection can feel like. To think some humans tolerate me, like me even, but they live too far away... I wish I could be with them.
However, this is no longer the case. Past human friends have betrayed me, apart from one. I have no true desires to befriend humans. As my grandmother once told me, I'm "too monstrous and hostile" for friends. I'm to monstrous for everyone. I'm too monstrous for myself. The human body I reside in is just a defense from the humans around me. I feel no true, meaningful attachment to this body.
I am the metaphorical version of a kitten that wasn't socialized. I cannot connect with others. I do not connect with others. I'm not meant to. I am designed for solitude.
I'm just a creature who's strange. I know I should care not of what others think, and yet I still do. I care because I am afraid. I am still afraid of humans my own age, especially women. If I could get everything I needed without leaving this house, the world would never see me again.
I am such an irrational thing. Here I am, a potential gynephobe who's a lesbian being encroached upon by a beast. Here I am, knowing most people don't care about me, yet I still care enough in case they press record again. Humans could be nice, but I must distrust them for my safety. They'll never know me well enough to know this. I must make sure of it.
I feel it has gotten so hopeless that my younger sister feels that she needs to intervene. She does a lot of talking for me. She pulls at my arms to try and get me to speak with humans. Even if it was a joke, it made me realize how hopelessly helpless I am. She feels I speak to no one, and she is right.
Worst of all, I know that I must change. Eventually I'm going to have to provide for myself. I don't wish to tell mother of my beastly affliction, though I have no reason not to. I suppose I am a cautious beast. How cautious is too cautious I wonder?
The beastly affliction is affecting major parts of my life. I remain in the cave all day. I speak to no outsiders. I rely on my little sister too much. My mother says she feels she has failed me. I do not wish to be a defective child. I do not wish to be a beast. I wish I could cry beastly golden tears until I'm washed clean of my beastly essences.
I am a pathetic beast. I am not strong. I am a lowly creature. I am a strange thing that cannot be understood. I shall forever remain a beast, and society shall forever hate me.
I feel I am stuck in place. I don't often think about my beastliness, but when I do it feels paralyzing. I don't know what to make of it. I don't know if it will change. I turn 20 in three days and I'm still the beast from when I was 16. I'm still the monster, I feel I forever will be. I feel the world has gone one without me, but I'm fine with that. I know nothing else at this point.
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Was bored and curious, so I made this diagram of how women in Echoes get treated as Scientific Research™
Some interesting information:
Of all the 20 named female characters, 11 of them get kidnapped at one point in the story (12 if you count Faye getting taken hostage by Slayde in the Prologue, but it's a bit of a Gray area hence why she's only partially in the Kidnapped section).
That's over half of them holy shit, and not even the goddesses are safe from being put into jail
He's not in the graph since he's a man, but Jesse is the only male character who gets captured. Jesse is trans confirmed?
Delthea is the only woman who gets brainwashed but survives the plot (provided you don't kill her), unsuprising since she's the only brainwashed character who doesn't turn into a Witch.
Mae and Genny are the only lucky Valentian women who don't get Kaga'd at any point. And Sonya too, if you believe she doesn't turn into a Witch in her epilogue.
Celica proves herself to be the quintessential Valentian woman, getting herself captured, brainwashed and killed in rapid succession.
Good thing she didn't die after getting killed.
So in conclusion, Valentia desperately needs a feminist movement
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Sorry to ask but why did you call Adria sexist? What has she done?
I don’t mind the question. I think it’s important to back up my claims so here we go.
If you watch her interviews, she's weirdly consistent about this really odd opinion she has about women.
Here she basically says men and women have different attributes when it comes to strength and toughness (which is sexist). Talking about her character that is known to "talk like a woman, walk like a woman," I don't even know what this means. But it comes off that she thinks there exists a single way a woman should act. Her character being a typical feminine-damsel type also implies her preference for this stereotype.
Reading through her other interviews she has a very narrow idea of what a woman should be, especially when it comes to ‘taking care of men’ and whatnot. I want to be clear it is one thing with having personal preferences to how you want your female characters to be presented, which is totally fine, preference is preference. But why this is problematic and moves past mere preferences is because she is saying one is better than the other. That women should be represented in this certain way.
She's done this not with just her latest character, but a lot of them.
Here she says her character is a "real woman" implying that there is a way to be an authentic woman as opposed to an inferior type. She also implies that her character is a real woman because she takes care of people. I don't feel the need to explain the issue with idealizing this.
It's again, her weird notion there's a difference between "tough" and "strong". Here she adds that women should 'own their femininity,' as if the opposite is what women are experiencing.
Not that this completely applies but it’s common for women who perceive other women to be adopting too ‘boyish’ of traits, to believe they are misogynists and rejecting their own kind. But this generally isn’t true— and the real issue with this is that it’s actually those that show conventionally masculine traits that are typically a minority and/or marginalized across women. Studs, butches, and tomboys helped pave the way and redefined culture for all women. In reality, they can be considered the epitome of feminism – proving that you don’t have to look, think, or act “like a woman” to be a woman.
It's, again, fine she may have had a preference. But to make a whole career where women are meant to be portrayed a certain way is such a red flag for me. Especially when she likens herself to them.
The rest of her snippets, to be very honest, it's just a bad fucking vibe I get from her, man. Like why would you say this?
and this?
"Sexist," one might say, might be a rather strong claim for someone who may, arguably, insist on a certain portrayal for women?
No, it fits because not only is this "preference" already largely overrepresented in media, but there are several ways of being sexist. The actress especially is exhibiting what is known as benevolent sexism, a more socially accepted form of sexism prevalent among both men and women.
Examples of benevolent sexism include:
basing a woman’s value on her role as a mother, wife, or girlfriend
focusing attention and praise on someone’s appearance rather than their other attributes
believing that people should not do things for themselves, such as manage money or drive a car, because of their gender
A lot of these can be done without intentional malice very easily! It could be seen as a complement telling someone "wow! I love your braids and lipstick, you really look like a real woman," or "my character is special and great because she is such a good friend and so loyal to this male character" without adding anything else. These, no matter the intent, are still very stupid and sexist to say.
I guess it's important to note where I am coming from and it is that I fucking hate toxic radfems. I hate how lesbian spaces drown out studs and mascs. I hate terfs and people who gatekeep identities because a certain representation isn't good enough for them. And while this actress's crimes are likely a misdemeanor compared to these awful gatekeepers, I cannot stand the stupidity of any hint of lateral violence. Especially when you’re relatively rich and famous you have a responsibility to not hold people back.
I can see that for others it’s not a big deal, hence “socially acceptable”. But it’s ideas she spouts like these that are poisonous to progress. The point should be that there should be no expectation for women. You can be anything you want because you want to. It's when I see comments to the things she says that make my blood boil like “yea! I love women who aren't so in our face ” (aka I don't want female characters with agency or opinions or as the lead) or “this is what a real woman is, sensual and feminine” (aka sexualized, long hair, tits, and ass).
I’m not above giving her the benefit of the doubt that she’s just kind of dumb. Like she’s not out here with a tradfem agenda or whatever. Outside of sexism she’s just bad at explaining anything. This is the last time I’ll probably criticize this woman because I already blocked her tag and she’s a flop anyway so she's easily ignorable. I really hate hating on women because they’re criticized enough, but there is a standard to be met when it comes to being aware and respectful. I wish I was cherry picking but I found all these interviews in like a 20 minute Google search and that's pretty damn telling of her career. She's also like 30 something years old. It's difficult watching a full adult infantilize her own character or see people believe she's "just naïve" when you can just say that they're being sexist.
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Yeah, Echoes does Celica really dirty especially that moment in Act 5. Like somehow they completely eradicate whatever agency she had compared to Gaiden. On that note, I read that Kusakihara, the director of Echoes, apparently saw Celica as a "supportive girlfriend" and the moments where she's in conflict with Alm are apparently supposed to be seen as "girl gets mad and boy has no idea why girl is upset, just like real life".
You mean the people in the writer's room were sexist! I'm shocked, just shocked I tell you. /s (just in case)
I agree about Celica though. I feel like sexist writing kept her from reaching her potential. She has a lot going for her, but she keeps getting punished because Alm must always be right.
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