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may12324 · 1 year
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Nona the Ninth
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foxtea · 19 days
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Gideon Nav you will always be famous
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skullfacedfruitcakee · 4 months
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Starting Gideon the ninth: wow, what a great book about complex lesbian necromancers being cool and emo and gay, with a great cast of supporting characters, and an interesting and mysterious plot! Cant wait to see what happens next!
Post Nona the ninth: this book is about humanity. It is about the soul. It is about love and It is about power and every devastating and wonderful emotion the human brain is capable of. It is about the meaningless bags of flesh that hold what is really important. It is about Christianity, and applying real human nature to its laws. It is about the end of the world. It is about a guy named John kickstarting the craziest butterfly effect ever. It is about
AND ITS NOT EVEN OVER YET!
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merlinityart · 2 years
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lizzybizzyart · 1 year
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Six for the truth over solace in lies.
cam i am spinning you around in my head im obsessed
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I think something to keep in mind regarding Kiriona and John's relationship, especially regarding the content of Kiriona and Ianthe's argument at the tomb, is what happens when they first meet. Yes, Gideon has a parent now! He's God! He gave her a new name connecting her to their culture and a commission in the cohort and made her his heir! Maybe he really is trying (when he's not drunkenly fucking his way through the cohort).
But the first time she meets him (during the Jerry Springer portion of the book), she sees the fight with Mercymorn and Augustine where he admits to lying about the cavaliers having to die. (As a cavalier who died, I think it would be totally reasonable for her to take this one personally.)
More importantly, she's angry with him for hurting Harrow. She straight up tells him, "Go to hell, Pops."
She watches Ianthe save him and says, "She got one choice, and not only did she blow it, but she blew it in such a huge fucking spectacular way that you would’ve been impressed had you not hated her for it."
Next sentence she calls John "the guy who had lied to everyone about everything."
Not a great first impression.
So back to Kiriona. She seems loyal enough. She plays the part. But she goes awol to get to New Rho first chance she gets (I don't believe for a second that John actually sent her there, especially considering there was no way to know they'd end up on the ninth. It has to be about Harrow, which Ianthe even asks.). She seems to me to be angry and defensive when she talks about what John has done to her body, her eyes "hard and dead and bright, like something that had been dug up" when previously they had been compared to Nona's eyes.
I feel like her loyalty to John isn't as secure as most people seem to think it is. If Harrow was disappointed by him as God while he still had his shit together, how disappointed must Gideon be to finally have a parent and it's John in his breakdown stage? Even Ianthe is disappointed by him.
I'm reminded of this exchange with Harrow in GtN:
“I need you to trust me.”
“I need you to be trustworthy.”
Given everything she's seen him do, I cannot imagine her finding John trustworthy. I can't imagine that a few months of playing happy families has changed that.
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peonypyxels · 5 months
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nona approves of our thrifty christmas finds
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nav-ix · 1 year
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the planet earth gave john the tremendous power to save her and by doing so put him in a position where he was uniquely equipped to destroy her utterly. and then he was like ok cool now what if everyone in the whole galaxy replicated this dynamic forever
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mercyisms · 2 years
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And so Alecto took that iron sword, and with one hand pierced John’s chest with it, even to the heart. At which John awakened and said, Annabel, good morning.
NONA THE NINTH
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dykevandyke · 6 months
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Oh god that hurts. It hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts. And Gideon is right there. And I don’t even know if Harrow can love Gideon the way she deserves to be loved.
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murdersoup · 1 month
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Me at another doctor appointment after a 3 year mystery illness: *Nona voice* Do you know who I am yet?
My doctor: No. Not yet :)
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the-uncanny-dag · 6 months
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And if you don't love me now
You will never love me again
I can still hear you saying
You would never break the chain
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n8nt · 1 year
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Ianthe the First ✨
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veritasrose · 7 months
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(Spoilers for The Locked Tomb, esp Nona the Ninth)
I know a lot of folks were meh on the storyline with Nona and the schoolkids, and felt it didn’t really progress the plot much.
But I think that they might actually be the most important factor in the end. They were the purest, most human connections Nona had. And now that she has returned to being Alecto, that is vital. She is angry, she has been hurt and betrayed. House belief is that she will end Jod and the world. And maybe she would.
But you can’t take loved away.
And it is stated over and over that Nona loves those kids. Those scrappy, coarse, rough little survivors. And Noodle.
And its no mere chance that they are literal children. They are humanity’s future. And I think that love is what will be the deciding factor for Alecto. She won’t want to destroy them. She will want a better future for them. And Harrow will follow her in that goal. She will have found her true god, like Anastasia before her. And they will be what finally truly saves humanity.
Because you can’t take loved away. And Nona/Alecto loves those kids.
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theriverbeyond · 2 years
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so i was thinking about how John is not a merciful god, and he hates Blood Of Eden because they left his Eden to die. so, why not kill them? it's what he originally wanted to do, and with his lyctors he certainly has the ability. so why use the cohort and all the messiness that guns and swords and millions of soldiers entail when just one of your fists and gestures can kill an entire planet cleanly in less than 15 minutes? why keep a thorn in your side by choice when you have more than the ability to just.... get rid of it? 
and i think, after reading NtN, i think that maybe John just decided that death is not enough. this is his punishment: the unending resettlements. the systemic destruction of any foothold or stability. the zookeepers on Lemuria who tried to save their animals but couldn't, had to kill them all before the planet turned. Beautiful Ruby, who’s family used to live in a house but doesn’t anymore. Hot Sauce, with no one left at home. the burn cages in the park, whose only real victims are drug addicts and weirdos and people who said the wrong thing at the wrong time. the woman at the broadcast with the baby who said she didn't care about safety anymore.
"our children stateless, our grandchildren perpetual nomads". maybe John’s invasion force doesn't make sense because it isnt an invasion force at all. it's just endless retribution for crimes that have been already been punished ten thousand times over.
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