As someone who enjoys religion blogging/discussions, I've come to realize that it's a good practice to be aware of the general signs/symptoms of religious-OCD thinking (aka scrupulosity), because if the conversation is taking on all the hallmarks of scrupulosity, it's actually a definitive sign that we cannot meaningfully and compassionately engage in a conversation about religion in a healthy way. I've actually had this play out a significant number of times online, and when I realized what it was, I also began to realize that the intrusive thoughts/obsessive and compulsive thinking are only ever fed by continuing the discussion with that person.
[[ Important edit to clarify why I am saying it's not healthy — made after I went back to look for more concrete facts about OCD or anxiety (I have GAD, not OCD, but many resources overlap since they're both anxiety disorders):
When Reassurance is Harmful — this explains how/why reassurance-seeking specifically about an OCD fear is a compulsive behavior, and engaging with reassurance-seeking interferes with recovery/management/treatment.
This table from the Anxiety Disorders Center lists key differences between Information Seeking and Reassurance Seeking.
This IOCDF page on Scrupulosity info for Faith Leaders identifies "symptom accommodation" as enabling. Two of the examples of doing this by participating in the OCD behavior are: "Engage in excessive conversation focused on if-then scenarios (e.g., "If I did this, then would X or Y happen? And what if Z was involved? How about W?")" And, "Repeatedly answering questions about ‘correct’ religious or faith practices."
That page also goes on to outline more info about reassurance seeking. "Although providing answers to (often simple!) questions may seem harmless, providing reassurance serves to maintain the anxiety disorder cycle." (This BMC psychiatry article cites a lot of related studies establishing this.)
The IOCDF page on What is OCD and Scrupulosity? ]]
Imo, the responsible thing to do is to recognize that (even if the other person hasn't outright stated it/isn't diagnosed)* the conversation is not about religion, it is about needing mental health support from professionals and experts. Talking to me, the layperson who enjoys chatting theology and my religion — is not only not helping, but is actively harmful. I'm not just talking about the person who I replied to today, either. Like I've said, I've seen this happen dozens of times in various online forums.
*[while I am against diagnosing strangers on the internet, it's important to realize A) lots of people don't know what Scrupulosity is, so it's possible they've never considered this is a mental health concern that could be treated, and that B) for the purposes of my concern, it doesn't matter if they actually have diagnosed OCD. The only thing that matters is that their thought-process causes them genuine distress/fear, and every response given to them seems to only incite new/additional distressing questions/thoughts, or further entrenches the original distress.]
Ultimately, any discussion aside from "you might want to speak to a mental health professional about scrupulosity OCD" seemingly puts me in the position of feeling as if I am being used for their self-harm. I hate that feeling. I do not want to be leverage for fear and pain. I have GAD, I despise the idea that I am making things worse.
No matter how much I love religious discussion, the answer in these cases is always "please reach out to an OCD specialist/mental health professional. I am not qualified to discuss this." And then to stop there. I have never once seen anyone stuck in this compulsive thought spiral be reassured or feel any better by hearing from someone else's approach to theology handled with things like empathy, compassion, logic, or even atheism. It doesn't matter what we say, how we say it, or how we relate to our own religion. The urge to engage in this kind of conversation in order to chat about religion is a sign that we are not equipped to help.
You can't have a conversation here, because intentionally or not, ten times out of ten, you are adding fuel to the fire. Just like people can't simply tell me something that would erase/talk me out of my ADHD/depression/anxiety disorder, you also cannot simply argue/reassure/persuade people out of scrupulosity. We should not try. We have a responsibility to consider that it's outright harmful to do so, and to disengage.
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and how many pigeons do you have? if it's not a secret
its no secret but,, aheh... its a bit difficult to keep track of them all! especially since the number changes from time to time. sometimes one will, unfortunately, die. sometimes a pair will lay eggs, sometimes a local pigeon will just decide to join the flock! but lets see...hm. i started with about 20 at first and i consider those 20 to be mine, if you want a simple answer. but the total amount of pigeons that live on base now...? well, last time i took a headcount it was 78!
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designed what i think arthur’s home office would look like. little details under the cut !
all photos/posters are either of art francis or the kids made, family photos or vintage band posters
he likes refurbished vintage/antique sound systems so the room features two antique radios and a 1970s turntable console with his record collection stashed in the little shelves and more inside
he has an old university football trophy and his childhood football up on display on his bookshelf
little built in wall library with books the kids can read and a foot stool to help them reach the higher shelves
it’s not particularly cozy or accomodating to guests other than himself which is why there’s only one single seater. this is literally just his man cave lol
regardless, he and francis somehow manage to fuck in there obvs
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my dnd party as avatars of entities from TMA :] In order:
Hal: distortion, spiral themed, cursed snail woman, have not confirmed this but was probably inspired by fuckhands mcmike himself
Cassia: the eye, she's a cursed academic, craves knowledge at any cost, need I say more
Siril: the lonely, my BELOVED squishy wizard. they're doing their best. didn't have any friends until the campaign started. would see an evil fogbank and say "don't mind if i do!"
Diilauna: the stranger. deals in FALSEHOODS AND DECEIT. the standing figure is crescent who we THOUGHT was a real person but nooo she was a fake persona put on by a fucking assassin who lied to us for months (i love it but god was that an intense session)
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