Hi popcorn! I'm recently interested in Aegon/Jaehaera's dynamic. I try to find some fics on ao3 but I am really frustrated by the results. I'm a canon-based fanfic lover, which is why I really like your fic. However all fanfics of this ship change their dynamics horrificly different from canon, which l'd say I feel them become writers' OC rather than who they really are in the book. The tragic and interesting part of them is that they both experienced similar trauma due to each others parents, then they have to face the ultimate forced union to make peace.Their experience is similar but they are on the opposite side, they never try to understand each other. Maybe there are sympathy and hatred coexisting in their relationship, which may get better if Jaehaera lives. That's the particular dynamic I want to see. But the fanfics of this ship just easily erase the bloody past of "my mother was eaten by your father" or "my brother was beheaded on your fathers order", instead focus on how they pity each others pang and fall in love. That's kind of a cheating way to write a complicated relationship. They have similarities but they have even more obstacles to truly understand each other. Writers don't know how to deal with it so just change their character traits, make them totally different persons. That's one of the awkward parts of these fics. The other wierd part is that writers tend to set up Daenaera as an imaginary rival by depicting her as a failed seducer or an unwanted second wife. The logic is weird bc Daenaera has nothing to do with the tragedy of Jaehaera. Their marriage ended tragically due to their own miscommunication and the murderer Peake. If there has to be an evil female rival It should be Myrielle. But sarcastically Aegon treated lady Turnip even better than he did with Jaehaera in canon.
What's your interpretation of their dynamics? Or do you know if there's a better way to write this kind of relationship? I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Hi there Anon, sorry for this delay 😊
So, I have explored my thoughts about Aegon III and Jaehaera as a ship here I don't know if you ever stumbled upon it. But this sums up what I think well.
Because in the end I am not interested and because of some issues I have, that I mention in the post, I never lost a lot of time thinking about them and their potential.
I understand your frustration, I do, and I have said it before and will again that the asoiaf fandom is not as strong as others fanfiction wise. Never was. In my days of reading it I can tell you I think I found like 3-4 fics I thought were absolute masterpieces but other than that I couldn't go past 2-3 chapters. It was just... no. Just a no.
At the end of the day though, when we are consuming free content we can't really be picky 🤷🏽♀️
When we want something specific and can't find it, I am of the mind that we should take an active approach. This was what I convinced myself to do. So, if I want to read something and it doesn't exist and I have good insights on the characters and what I want, I can write it. If I couldn't write it I could maybe try to commission someone to write it for me with my specific instructions.
With writing, I like my writing, despite it's flaws, and I do enjoy the process and going back and reading my stuff, but I can't draw, so if I want something I may try to find an artist willing to take a commission from me. It's a win-win (despite the fact that the artist has to put up with me), I get what I want and they get paid and if nothing else can get some practice.
All the best to you and thank you so much for your very lovely words 🥰 Happy Holidays!
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y'all can all cancel me (again) for this, but if there's even a SHRED of 'who should I pick?' from Penelope in season 3, I am tuning out SO fast because like. . .sorry not sorry, there IS no choice. Debling is some crusty OC suitor she barely even knows and Colin is a man who she has been so supposedly in love with to the point where she'd ruin her entire family's reputation to have a potential love story with him. Penelope and Colin have background, years of knowing each other, intimacy that few people in the Ton can boast of having (letters, conversations about purpose, fights and arguments and makeups) and her and Debling have. . .a dance or two at a ball because he's a rebound for Penelope's broken heart. he means nothing. he has no nuance, he has no weight to the story, he is such an afterthought to me. either I wanna see Penelope going 'you know what? I don't even LIKE this dude. he's. . .fine, but I don't care about him even a shred as much as I care about Colin' or the INSTANT Colin's like 'you know what? we should get married' if it's not an immediate 'say less, you're already my husband, try returning me without the receipt, Debling whomst?' then I don't want it!
like. . .it's just so frustrating to see all the 'I hope Debling sweeps her off her feet and she rejects Colin's proposal and she makes him work for it and and and-' nonsense from the fandom and it's always tagged and no matter how many times I block it, it just keeps popping up. I go into the Polin tag for POLIN. I don't give a SHIT about a male love interest other than Colin. Not one. Not a shred. Not an iota.
and also. . .Debling has the 'benefit' of not having depth, or character traits, or HISTORY, so peeps can project onto him however they want, but I'm calling it now, there is NOTHING he could do or be that would make me like him more than Colin. Colin will always hit different, and I will always love him more. and if Pen's not on that same page? lol bye
you want me to believe Penelope and Colin are soulmates and it's romance for her to hem and haw about how difficult a decision it is for her to marry a stranger who knows barely anything about her. . .
when Marina was out here dropping banger lines like 'You were the only man with which I could see myself being happy' and 'I do not care about any of these men, where is Colin?'? like hello??? and she wasn't even fully in love with him!!!! but we'll demonize her until the cows come home in our fandom and make her the villain in Polin's love story for DARING to get in between Polin, yet Debling, a white man, is a darling dear perfect prince for getting in between Polin? existing in our fandom solely so Penelope can be like 'lol, Colin ain't shit, let me entertain any and everyone else'?
if that's the direction it goes then, ten toes down and on my mama, she doesn't deserve Colin and she can move because I'm on my way to court him my damn self
and that's that on that
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as a chronic age gap ship enjoyer, i have to say, it’s kinda disappointing how little MarcoAce shippers engage with their age difference. Marco is 25 years older! He was a pirate before Ace was even born! He’s already in his 40s when he meets a teen Ace! And yet it’s so rare to see anyone engage with that, and even when they do, it’s so often just a throw away “I’m old” kinda line and is never given any weight or thought. It’s just so bizarre to me, cause other age gap ships I’ve liked that had a smaller gap than this (more like 10 yrs) engage a lot more with the age difference, but MarcoAce just… doesn’t. It’s so odd to me lol, and kinda a bummer cause i find half the fun of age gap ships is engaging with that age difference and the conflict it can cause (as well as the kinky aspects).
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are you going to read tsc when it comes out? and, if not: would you like your acolytes to give you the important kevin day updates or would you rather not?
oh my acolytes huh! well i don’t know :) it’s so nice of you to ask and i’m very touched actually…. nice to me 🥹…. i guess any (good) kevin updates would be nice and probably sway the balance on whether i read it or not, but at first glance i probably won’t read it unless it sparks my curiosity once it’s out and the story starts making its rounds around my circles :) i’m plenty interested in the period where jean stays with the foxes but i don’t much care for the trojans nor the proposed storyline*, though even a picky reader like yours truly can be convinced into buying a story if kevin day’s in it
*by this i don’t mean that i Dislike the process of jean healing but it’s just overall not my favorite theme and, to be frank, i don’t have much interest in reading about a normal well-adjusted team either. from my view tsc is aftg without my favorite parts (namely kevin day as a main character, the foxes’ messy dynamic, problematic and controversial side characters, neil’s narration, The Mafia, andrew in general) and while i am always and forever a ride or die for jean moreau, and i am glad he’s going to get better and be happy, a lot of my feelings for him don’t really stem from the idea that there is a softness underneath all the grit but actually and sincerely the fact that he is crazy. i Love jean because he’s horrible and scared and cruel and i don’t know if i’ll care much for him once he’s out of that state :) i meant it when i said a few months ago that i would’ve been more onboard with a story about the ravens (no matter how gruesome) or even a glimpse of jean’s pov in the nest, though of course nora sakavic should probably choose to be happy every once in a while so i wouldn’t ask her to write that
so tl;dr: you can send me good and relevant kevin updates if you want to and if they’re interesting enough i might read tsc in the future
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