#therese talks

[absenthearted]

fic status update

for anyone who’s keeping up with bite the hand that needs you, it’s going to be put on hiatus for a bit while I catch up with my personal life (and also divert a little to working on the exchange assignment). I’m juggling two part-time jobs, one of which I started in September, and it’s been more time-consuming than I expected. I can’t say when it’ll be coming off of hiatus (I want to say 4-6 weeks at this time but I’m not sure) but I have full intentions of completing it, no matter how long it takes. hopefully sooner! fingers crossed.

#if anyone's wondering the latest chapter would be the start-ish of act 2 #i feel like this is going to end up in the 50-70k range depending on how certain things go #i always overwrite what i have outlined #so we'll see lol #but I'm going to finish it.... my original goal had been an end date of December but that's likely going to get pushed back #unless I really hunker down in November. maybe nano will get me going #anyway much love to everyone who's been reading #hope to get back to this asap #therese talks #bthtfy

[batllethinker]

My babie

#that scene was just something #therese raquin #cas talks

[frevandrest]

Underrated Saint-Just dramas

inspired by underrated Robespierre dramas by @lanterne

#tbh one of the listed is incorrect #there was technically no drama between sj and tallien #they never talked to each other or about each other #including on 9th Thermidor #not that we know and believe me i searched #but man sj and gellé drama #and i don't mean here on stuff surrounding therese #it was just one part of 2332465345 #frev #fun #saint-just

[missinternet]

KINDERGARTEN FANDOM

What would be a good name for a gender bend Cindy?

I was thinking Cody, it's short and cute but it somehow doesn't sound mischievous enough

#i already got Felicity and Tessa for Felix and Ted #i HATE every other name for those gals im sorry #OH and Paul for Penny!! i was thinking Peter but i have that name and male penny deserves better #kid stays kid #obvi #Before you get on my back about “what about theodore??” Tessa is short for Therese.. thank you for coming to my ted talk ( literally ) #kindergarten #kindergarten 2 #kindergarten game #genderbend #gender bend #gender swap

[marietheran]

holocaust denial is just so wild to me. like maybe it's possible in the us, but to me, as a polish person, it's just inconceivable that I might try to deny it. I guess it's because, while jews were targeted far far more, my own people also faced horrors and masses of them also died in concentration camps... our history is much too entwined with it for us to deny it... (and then half the jewish victims of ww2 are also counted among the polish ones)...

but then the world is not so big nowdays as to make it possible to deny something like that without a huge amount of willful suppression of truth even if the something happens on another continent...

#therese rambles #forgive the incoherent *everything* #are there even polish holocaust - deniers #?? #I'd guess there must be some idiots in every country but it would be really wild #yes auschwitz is 1h from my home. yes my great-grandmother would talk about how she saw the jews from her village hoarded into trains going #there. my neighbour's father said he was sent there. but no it didn't happen. guess they were all lying 🤷‍♂️ #... #but then i suppose the industry is niche enough elsewhere around the world. at least i hope so. I've read it's strong in palestine #history #poland #polish history #jews #jewish history #shoah

[karmirage]

anyways. kind of weird to me that krakoan-age monet puts her back in a) the form and b) the codename that is specifically associated with her brother stripping her of her bodily autonomy etc etc etc. like it's fucking weird. and to have the m twins subjected to that shit too...

#sorry but that bit of gen x really like. struck me. #and the fact that they had to coexist with their brother on that godforsaken island....when he did literally all that + killed their mom... #Hello. #anyways join me next time when we talk about lin li and double standards #river rambles #x men #monet yvette clarisse maria therese st croix/m #oh also even after the m twins left the penance form. it was still alive. like she was spotted at avengers academy with the codename hollow #so.

[rainwingmarvel7]

I don’t normally do ask games, but I’m dying to lore dump about my hotd OCs, so ask me anything you wish about them, and I will do my best to answer!

Since I’ve only just posted about them, here they are as a reminder (and with a bit of extra detail)

Kaleb Dormaire (x Rhaenyra Targaryen, Alicent Hightower) - Lord of Raven’s Keep

Therese Snow/Targaryen (x Jacaerys Velaryon, Aegon II Targaryen, Criston Cole) - daughter of Kaleb and Rhaenyra, Princess

Tristan Snow/Dormaire (x Helaena Targaryen) - son of Kaleb and Rhaenyra, Prince, Knight of the Kingsguard and Sworn Shield of Queen Helaena

#rainwing talks #game of thrones #got #house of the dragon #hotd #house of the dragon oc #hotd oc #kaleb dormaire #oc: kaleb dormaire #therese targaryen #oc: therese targaryen #tristan dormaire #oc: tristan dormaire

[gerrifields]

i need her badly!

#penny talks 💭 #therese raquin #god give me 2 minutes

[absenthearted]

honestly the real reason i’m struggling with writing a historical AU (for any ship) is bc of the Colonialism of it all lmao like it’s a huge fucking bummer and i can’t br*dgerton my way out of it in my head

high fantasy/secondary world AUs may be the way to go for this hmm

[obligatory disclaimer that this is just my personal opinion and not an indictment or judgment upon anyone else ok thanks bye 🙏🏽]

#if i think too hard about the Implications of a well-off generational white family legacy on native land #and then to take that back to the western frontier and actual settlers #i want to die lmao i canNOT #(i would love to talk about this struggle with another poc lol) #(but i vacillate. i do love that western au. would still love to read it #just not gonna be one by me probably #unless i squish it into a magical fantasy au that feels less like i’m betraying my ancestors lmao) #therese talks #i don’t think this is really a vent post but colonialism in the Romance genre has been on my mind a lot lately #anyway. back to what i should be doing. which is my wip

[thebluehoursofmorning]

Saint Thérèse’s feast day is tomorrow!!!

#saint therese #blue talks #catholic #christian

[psychedelic-ink]

my drafts is literally filled with fics i need to readdd-- i want a job where all i have to do is read fanfic

#sil talks.🎤 #so many #and i keep adding more fics #because i dont wanna lose em #anway i guess reading therese raquin has to wait #gotta binge some fanfic tonight

[frevandrest]

do u have any info on Thèrése Gellé and SJ's relationship?

I have all the info there is! Which... is not much. What we know is that something likely did exist in terms of a romantic relationship in their teens (and maybe later, but that one is not proven). Some things could be extrapolated from little that we know, but we have only a few facts. What we know is the following:

Thérèse Gellé was born in 1766 in Blérancourt, as an illegitimate child of a local merchantess and a powerful royal notary Gellé. She was legitimized at 12, when her parents married each other.

SJ moved to Blérancourt at the age of 9. Thérèse was 10. We don't know when they met but since this was a super small community, I assume they knew each other (or at least, knew of each other) as kids.

At some point during their teen years, they seemed to have started a romantic relationship. There are no concrete sources for it except that it’s generally accepted that it happened. What we know is that in December 1785, they were godparents to a child in the village. Some historians see this as a sign that they were seen as a future married couple and chosen together because of this. I am not sure how sound this theory is, but I do think it’s interesting that they were chosen together.  Interestingly, most of the proof/sources for the relationship come from SJ’s early writing (namely, Organt and Arlequin-Diogène). While Thérèse is not mentioned by name, the context and certain (auto)biographical details that appear in these works strongly point out that the main female characters were based on her. (If anyone wants me to talk about what SJ’s writing (potentially) says of Thérèse and/or their relationship, I’d love to do that - I just have to do it in a different post because this one is getting super long). According to some, SJ asked Gellé for a permission to marry Thérèse and was refused. Not sure if this is true, but since SJ was 18 at the time and still in school, AND not particularly rich, it’s not surprising that Gellé wanted a more “prosperous” option for his daughter. 

Which brings us to 25 July 1786. While SJ was away at the boarding school,  Thérèse married Emmanuel Thorin, a young notary from a rich family. Historians agree that this marriage (done seemingly in a hurry) was specifically to prevent SJ from marrying her.

SJ graduated and returned from school a few weeks later, and he lost it. Reportedly, he had a huge fight with his mother (for not telling him that Thérèse was getting married? For not presenting him as a good option to Gellé?) Soon after, in early September 1786, he took that infamous silver and ran away to Paris. (I assume this episode is familiar. It resulted with his mother putting him in the correctional house where he stayed for six months, until early 1787). 

We don’t know what - if anything - happened between SJ and Thérèse after these events. What we do know is that the Revolution started and Gellé was a royalist who tried to stop revolutionary efforts in the village (he was the one who outed SJ as being too young to be elected for the Legislative Assembly in 1791). So yes, there was a lot of animosity between SJ and Gellé on the political grounds, but we don’t know anything about Thérèse during these years or how she might have reacted to all of this. 

But there is a significant event in summer 1793. On the 7th anniversary of her marriage, Thérèse left Thorin and went to Paris. She stayed in a hotel very close to SJ’s place. We know this because SJ’s friend, Victor Thuillier, wrote a much-quoted letter about it. In the letter, he informs SJ that the village believes that SJ had kidnapped Thérèse (not against her will?) and also gives SJ Thérèse’s address in Paris. To which SJ replied basically: “I have no idea what you’re talking about. Tell everyone (in the village) that it’s not true. I am very busy, bye”. (Not direct quotes - you can read more in the link above, though not sure if it’s the best way to translate these letters). 

Historians are divided over what happened. Those who are sympathetic towards SJ want to defend him against accusations of having an affair with a married woman, so they trust his word on it. Those unsympathetic towards SJ generally think that he lied and that he was totally behind Thérèse’s escape to Paris. But what I am more concerned about is how things worked form Thérèse’s POV. She left her husband, AND the village thought that it was because of SJ. This ruined her reputation beyond repair. Even if she did not cheat on Thorin, she was the one who was seen as leaving. 

As for SJ, nobody really talks about a possibility that he did help her, but not necessarily as a lover but as a friend - he wrote so much about protecting women from abuse and unwanted marriages that it wouldn’t be so impossible that he helped a childhood friend (tbh, it would be more shitty if he refused after writing so much about helping women). As for the affair... We don’t have any proof either way (except his reply to Thuillier). I disagree with historians who claim that “SJ would never”, because most of his writings actually point out that he was fine with women performing marital infidelity and the like. But this is not a proof either. So we just don’t know. 

Thérèse and Thorin had a divorce hearing in September 1793. Historians point out that the reason for the divorce they listed was not adultery, but Thorin didn’t seem to ask for a no-fault, mutual decision divorce either. He seemed to ask or a divorce based on the fact that she left him. In the hearing, Thérèse said that the divorce was mutually desired and she seemed to have asked for her dowry back. Their divorce was decided then, but they had to wait for about 11 months for it to become legal. They were legally divorced in July 1794 (18 days before Thermidor). 

That is basically it. We have no idea if SJ and Thérèse had any contact or what she did between this divorce hearing and Thermidor. We do know that she was kind of shunned in the village, while Thorin remarried and had children. Thérèse died in 1806, at the age of 39. 

There is one thing, written by SJ near Thermidor, that some people argue could be related to Thérèse, but there is absolutely no proof of it: that strange “story” about a lovers’ misunderstanding. It was the last item written in the notebook found on SJ during Thermidor, and it is super unusual because he left no other writing of this kind, but it’s impossible to say whether it has anything to do with  Thérèse or not.

#ask #anonymous #saint-just #therese gelle #frev #man i love this question #i love talking about therese

[blazlngblade]

Yesterday was a busy day for me! I worked and completed both Cornelia's and Therese's Traveler Stories!

I don't have anything too big to say about these stories. But I'll share some small thoughts on them. Cornelia's Traveler Story kind of confuses me. It's not that it's bad or anything, but it's full of misunderstandings from everyone. Nobody really gets what people are wanting or saying and they tend to twist things up a lot. The mayor wants Cornelia to be the community apothecary in Flamesgrace, and he does say it straight up, but John, the mayor's servant, in his house took it as he wants Cornelia as his personal apothecary. He then tries to poison the mayor because of this. John lost his parents, who were also servants to the mayor, to a sickness because there was no community apothecary. But, even if the mayor did have an personal apothecary, that would have included his parents to be cured. So it's not really the mayor's fault, but the fact there was no personal or community apothecary. The revenge plot is unneeded, since all people needed to do was talk, especially since all this info just comes out of nowhere. It's just kinda weird to me. It needs a pretty heavy rewrite to be better, it has potential, but it's messy.

Now for Therese's Traveler Story. Her story is pretty cute. She's just a young girl living her life as a noble daughter. At some point she's met a peasant girl and became friends with her. Doris and Therese are very close despite the differing status. When the story begins, we are told that Therese and Doris only have a short time left with each other. as Therese is going to be sent to a monastery to become a cleric of the Sacred Flame. She's unsure if that's what she wants to do, but she wants to do anything to please her family. Therese's family, House Chamotes, has a custom to give a necklace to someone they are close too. Which likely would be something she should give to someone she wants as a potential partner, but this is a 14 year old girl, she doesn't understand that yet. She gives the necklace to her best friend and it causes a bit of problems for the two. House Chamotes is the second in line for the kingdom of Wold's throne (obviously the first is Osred II, the current king's daughter Princess Mary, whom Therese is a cousin too), so she makes sense to be a high consideration for the problems that Therese and Doris face. By kidnapping Therese Chamotes, you can ask for a heavy ransom because of her standing. Kidnappings are common in Theatropolis, and they mistake Doris as Therese because of the necklace. Therese goes on a mission to rescue her best friend from the kidnappers since she feels responsible as to why the kidnapping happened at all. This explains why she's good at doing so in the Switch game when she manages to track down Cyrus' location. She's already had talent at being a detective and hunting down clues to find people.

It obviously ends with Therese realizing that she doesn't want to become a cleric, but a scholar instead, so she is enrolled in the Royal Academy of Atlasdam. My main issue with Therese's Traveler Story, is the focus on Doris is a bit too much. Plus, the ending is a little awkward since most characters have to ask the Traveler you are playing as if they "can travel with you?". It makes little sense for Therese because she's only 14 years old, she shouldn't be traveling at all. Unlike Heathcote who smoothly came to this decision, it doesn't work the same for Therese.

Anyways, those are my thoughts about the stories I have read. I hope you look forward to seeing them!

#Octopath Traveler #Octopath CotC #Octopath Cornelia #Octopath Therese #Rosa Talks

[marietheran]

September September I need you September

I'm waiting suspended to turn the calendar

I'm ready to shatter, my being upended

In desparate awaiting your answers September

#something i wrote just now. true to my state of mind and everything #i *must* talk to someone about my spititual problems and that person's only going to be “available” Sunday/Monday #i hate every day that's left of this week. #ok. upon second thought it's less about September and more about next week but you can't make a poem out of that #poesis #therese writes #original post #btw. whatever my poems are about. difficult matters or not. it's always ok to reblog if you want to.

[thschei]

In 2023, I had no idea how to tag the gifs of snackie's body burning and getting cannibalized, and in 2024 I have no idea how to tag anakin getting burned on mustafar 💀

#erin talks #text #I've been trying to think if I'm missing any SH characters who get burnt to death #therese obviously and then sacrifice's sister / the entire church... #I luv gore and body horror but I do recognize that 1) most ppl don't <3 and 2) things like getting burned alive #are horrific and cause visceral reactions in people . but how do I tag it? 😭 it's not like ppl blacklist immolation or smth like that #anyway there's a really cool gifset of snackie being cannibalized in between pre-crash scenes in my drafts & it's REALLY cool #but . I don't want to like ruin someone's week by showing them a (fictional) half-burnt corpse being eaten #I guess I'll go with like the reg body horror / gore / ask to tag tags & if anyone unfollows understandable half a nice day

[prince-of-khrysalis]

for the unhinged bingo, my favourite mouse elf boy therese, my good unhinged karamellian therese, the ultimate peppermint flavour sensation resey

THIS'LL MAKE SO MUCH SENSE WHEN I POST UPDATED ART OF HIM I SWEAR I love my Karamellian rockstar I really do<3

#have I talked about Rese on here yet cause haha I WILL #drawing him requires drawing a guitar so yk forgive my slowness #ask meme #asks #my ocs #Therese Von Brandt #anon