#these creators know their fanbase

[000marie198]

Other fandoms getting pranked by their respective videogame franchises' updates and Sonic fans here getting an entire free game with adorable art style and nice music and lovely bg art

#saying this bcoz my little brothers just told me what their respective games updated #the cats on genshin impact and bobbleheads on pubg #sonic the hedgehog #sonic #sth #the murder of sonic the hedgehog #mosth #i love sth so much #these creators know their fanbase #genshin impact #pubg #april fools

[askdacast]

"how did the guy with no friends win?"

except, he did have a friend in the end

Pearl, a past winner who was also all alone the entirety of DL and went mad because of it

Pearl, who won because the person who betrayed her at the very start atoned for what he did by sacrificing himself and giving her the win

("I guess I forgive you after all...")

Pearl, who after healing from that betrayal went on to open her heart to alliances in the end (Nosy Neighbors + Grian et. al.) and eventually did find one she could call...family (The Mounders)

Pearl, who was the ONLY one to extend that invitation to the friendless villain ("I guess you found your family after all, Scar")

Because she was the only one who knew what it was like to be all alone, like him

But also come back from that dark place and reach out to someone who suffered just like her

And in the end they became a duo, she even tried to sacrifice her life for that fellow 'undeserving' lonely person, and only didn't because he wanted a 'fair' (for a given definition of that word) fight

Even at the end, Scar's "I'm gonna get you Pearl!" loses just...a tinge of the angry, bitter bloodlust he'd been baring throughout the session, and sounds almost playful

And then "she's dead scar. you won."

He killed the only person left who considered him a friend because she, in a sense, gave her life to him

It didn't start with the duel. It started with her hand of forgiveness.

but also because Scar really did become so much better at pvp like dang his red kills were vicious

#heeho i'm back to talking about funny minecraft creators in their funny improv series causing unintentional pain to their fanbase again #secret life smp #traffic smp #life series #pearlescentmoon #goodtimeswithscar #i'm in no way trying to take away from scar's achievements #he EARNED that win #but like many people i'm just really fascinated with the storytelling and unintentional character development that unfurled here #both negative in scar's case #but less talked about is pearl's positive one #i seriously feel she was far less unhinged in this one even after becoming red pearl #she even did her usual crazy singing thing but then went 'oops sorry' #like i know it was just a gag but it unintentionally came off as actual character development and that's hilarious

[ratlover7]

BREAKING BAD AND BETTER CALL SAUL FANS THERE WAS APPERANTLY AN UNAUTHORIZED MUSICAL VERSION OF BREAKING BAD I CANT FIND ANY PERFORMANCE RECORDINGS BUT GO LISTEN TO THE SOUNDTRACK ITS SO STUPID ITS CALLED SAY MY NAME ITS ON YOUTUBE AND SPOTIFY I HAD TO SHARE THIS OR I WOULD DIE

#better call saul #breaking bad #brbabcs #walter white #saul goodman #gustavo fring #jesse pinkman #skyler white #hank schrader #nacho varga #lalo salamanca #hector salamanca #kim wexler #It is the most stupid musical ever I'm angry that some of the songs are bangers #Low-key gay as shit too which is really cool cause it's great for creators to know their fanbase

[beepborpdoodledorp]

like 90% of the time I see people say why vivziepop is bad it’s always prefaced with an ‘apparently’ ‘supposedly’ and then a vague explanation of the one of the apparent two dozen crimes she’s committed like the discourse is one giant game of telephone and I am absolutely NOT trying to say vivziepop couldn’t be/isn’t a terrible person but I’m just TRYING to get a more clear explanation as to what makes her such a problematic creator as an outsider who’s just interested in watching hazbin because I think the premise looks fun and I like musicals

#also not trying to say her fans aren’t batshit because that I can definitely see but this is about the creator not the fanbase #my biggest exposure to vivziepop so far is just that. I like tadc. And gooseworx and vivziepop have collaborated a lot before #that’s it that’s all I know about vivziepop as a person

[guckies]

The way a certain fanbase is negatively taking Niki’s joke that was directed towards the multiple guilty ccs is crazy

But I mean don’t confess to a crime that was never committed.. right?

#it truly is an if the boot fits situation lol #if y’all immediately thought it was a jab at dream then you know he was somewhat guilty bc there has been over 5 or 10 creators - #this year and previous that have been found guilty of grooming so 🤷 #also the joke here so some of y’all don’t mix it up is that the fanbase is admitting guilt by getting offended at something that wasn’t - #supposedly doesn’t apply to their cc therefore just tarnishing his name further! great job guys!! #discourse #? idk what to tag this i really count care much anymore lol

[hadesknockedupintheunderworld]

You know, I'm glad that some of us take the step to embrace things that we like even if they're "cringe" or "objectively bad"

But perhaps we could take the next step forward and embrace the idea of reading into books/shows/movies/etc even if they don't seem deep. Perhaps we could understand that the two kinds of media aren't either "shallow and meaningless so you're weird and brainrotted to read into it" or "incredibly and profoundly deep in every way so if you don't analyze every single angle of the thing then you're brainrotted". Some media is deeper than others, but all I propose is that no matter how deep it seems it's acceptable to dig into the thing and take the media seriously instead of just assuming that because of ____ thing (such as target audience or how cringe it is) the media not deep and will never be deep and everything good about it happened on accident.

#fandom wank #i just be ramblin #I'm not putting this in any tags #I'm just frustrated that Sonic Prime is going to be remembered by the bulk of its fanbase/people who watched it as a shallow stupid badly #written kid's show where the only thing good about it that we can even consider was created on purpose and is deep is Sonadow #I'm frustrated that when people learned that sometimes the death note creators did things because it was cool and not because they were #planning for it to be some great symbolism that so many people jumped from 'death note is a masterpiece and every bit of it is meticulously #thought out the curtains are never blue' to 'pack it up guys! the curtains are just blue! Everything good about death note like that #profound relationship I like and the neat symbolism completely happened by accident and Ohba sucks as a writer otherwise' #I'm frustrated when I see people talk about 'a kid's show' as if it's not gonna be deep at all or written well *because #it's a kid's show and then turn around and complain that said show sucks and isn't deep at all (even if that's how they're choosing to look #at it and they could see the care put into the story if they didn't go into it assuming that it will be lesser and shallow and dumb based on #what it is) #I guess it's also just getting me on this random Wednesday the idea that the bulk of one's viewers determine the legacy of a piece of media‚ #no matter how close or far away they are from painting the media as it actually is or tries to bw #It's also just bleak (especially from a manga/anime standpoint) that if your work is considered profound and intellectual‚ then any reveal #of something not being deep is grounds for people to completely swap how they think of your work and how they see you as a writer #And any work that's considered 'not actually that deep' from the getgo ends up with people only engaging with it seriously saying stuff like #'I know nothing about it is purposeful or deep but I like it' #and just ends up with prevailing opinion putting down anything percieved as 'good' or 'profound' about the work as a complete fluke

[gamethecry]

#jeez. i wont say much there's a lot of emotions behind this for me for numerous numerous reasons that i won't get into too too much #so i put it in the tags how i feel in this moment of clarity yet also somber #i am going to miss matpat in ways i do not believe i can express in words and i know that sounds like a lot to put into some guy #some guy on youtube no less; but he has helped with through so so much turmoil and sadness that would not have been pushed through #had it not been for him and the way he is genuine and kind to his fanbase #im sad ill never have met him in person; he is by far one of my favorite creators from my wee ages to now and a huge inspo to me to do what #i love and not want works; but to strive to be a better person and to make a difference where i stand. #this blog means a lot to me and is in my own way my little child that i was sad to part with time and time again #i think this is my sign to mayhaps retire this blog fully; but who knows! i wanted to post something funny and acknowledge this was happeni #because it honestly hit really hard all of a sudden #sorry for rambling and thank you if you read all of this! #▇ 🌟┊🎮 ❝ isucc ❞ 🎮┊🌟 ▇ (isaac murmurs) #▇ 🌟┊🎮 ❝ just an adoring fan ❞ 🎮┊🌟 ▇ (ooc tag)

[lucifer-kane]

honestly at this point and reading posts on my dash about him, harlan acts too similar to kyle did back in the day regarding kfam but honestly i feel a bit worse

#personal #criticism #not really but idk #i do not understand creators who are rude to parts of their fanbase???? like????? #he's one of the main reasons im not really listening to the pod anymore as well as story reasons but i just. yeah #i didn't know about him making fun of jarther shipers like??? he was so Into it when the fandom was tiny. what happened????

[appri-dot]

Having a fandom isn't a bad thing, it's uniquely incredible. The problem is theres this strange force that somehow shapes fandoms to be painfully identical and samey to eachother where it's a detrimental to the media

#nonsense words #but like #every fandom is so...similar #“heres our mean char heres our wholesome char heres the characters you ship heres the chars you angst” #and these categories VERY COMMONLY do not fit at all and thus waters down the source material and takes away from the context and content #best way to describe it is like #i looked up urbanspook. as a way to gauge the fandom outside of the questionable content and creator perhaps the fanbase is good? #and it was just completely tone-deaf doodles of the killers as sexy monsters or cute moe girls and i got whiplash #theres the right to like do whatever you want but its so glaringly obvious that at this point fandoms don't know how to ever break mold #ITS MISERABLE AHAHA SORRY TO BABBLE

[oedipushansen]

ok i watched that hazbin hotel show & its actually pretty decent ! i think the songs are catchy & some parts were interesting to me. most of the characters were charming . i dont know if its something ill come back to , but overall it was was a fun experience. & its also just nice to watch an animated show again

#i know its got like. a bad reputation on here but i dont actually know why. i think maybe its just to do with the fanbase or like. discours #surrounding the shows creator(?) but i also dont really know anything about that #while i was watching it i flipped back & forth between feeling kind of disappointed & pleasantly surprised #txt

[hometownrockstar]

and jojo fuck. how could i forget jojo. i wouldnt say im the biggest fan of araki's styles in a replication way, but like his posing, composition, outfits, and random color palettes changed my brain chemistry. also i was looking at his first non-jojo manga works and they have the CUUUUTEST style that i wanna use for insp he was always a great artist

that last picture, the fanroad one, that is SOOO obviously from a Vogue Italia cover, araki LOOOOVED copying poses and outfits from them, in the earlier parts (1-4) he copied the outfits like funny pattern scarfs n sweaters but later he just did the poses when the outfits in the original covers got more basic.

#btw you know how usually when theres a fanbase for a manga/anime theyre also fans of whatever else the creator made? #i have not seen a SINGLE fucking jojo fan who's read cool shock bt baoh or gorgeous irene. none. #good amount of them still know they exist tho

[c0rpseattack]

i have a flare up and a bad headache -_- on another note, does ANYONE have any good youtube videos about petscop?? that provide nuanced yet understandable breakdowns of all it's subject matter/story/themes? if not videos, any other sort of media that explains it well? ive always had a fascination with it since im the internet horror guy but never could really wrap my head around it even after multiple watchthroughs (it happens a lot with a lot of media. im pretty sure it has something to do with the way iprocess information in general lol)

#i want to be more involved with internet horror without the youtube barrier in between. youtube is very helpful ofc but even my favorite #creators cant go super in depth the way i want alot of the times #ALSO if anyone has recommendations for good takes on welcome home i would also really love that ..!! i was going to rant about it a long #time ago when it first dropped but i have such a hard time engaging with things that amass such a huge fanbase so quickly 😭 which is such a #shame bc i was so excited when it first came out... still am! as much as i can be. its so my thing #i know for internet horror you have to be in discords and reddit and styff but eudhehs . ill get there when i get there lol . recs for #stuff like that is also appreciated #man the tags r long sorry lol. things arent great over here so im trying to distract myself . #incubus.txt

[fairyreblogs]

man i dont know why (i have theories but hold on) but the fandoms Ive been in on the internet have been a little meaner these last few years. like i dont get nice comments on my fics anymore. i get ones with no reading comprehension or i get angry ones or i get ones that are enthusiastic and delighted but instead of any decorum they are like. aggressive in their delight. usually just a demand for more content. something has definitely changed in how people in fandoms interact with one another. my theories are just like. younger generations more comfortable with the internet not being as polite as older people on the internet are combined with quarantine kinda ruining a lot of peoples ability to interact socially (mine was ruined too to be fair). but like lately ive been in search of a fandom thats not the markiplier fandom that is nice to me and not aggressively-enthusiastic-weird (but i might take this too) and its kinda hard to find one. i dont know if i just dont have interests that align with happy communities, or what.

#markiplier fandom nice to me forever and ever. #sometimes they get me on edge when they demand i update and dont even say like 'nice fic i liked this' they just say 'update' #but thats literally like the meanest fan ive met so 👍 #fnaf fandom is interesting. you definitely gotta treat them the way you want to be treated or theyre not gonna be nice #unfortunately this means you cant joke too much with them. #uh. moment of truth. percy jackson fandom kinda mean. ok they are mean. no kinda. also no reading comprehension #definitely a fandom that bonds by choosing something to nitpick and hate together. which sucks if you liked that thing they chosen that wee #my little corner of the xmen fandom has actually gotten nicer as time goes on. but also more obsessed with details and accuracy #but my corner of the xmen fandom was still nice enough that i adore them even if i havent been in it in ages #marvel is very so-so depending on where you are in the fandom but its such a large fanbase it is what it is. normal #witcher fandom from my experience has been pretty chill but i havent done much as a content creator for them to really know #d:be human is. decent. unfortunately a lot of outside hate there that it kinda outweighs how polite the fans are #star wars.... well. if you find your niche good for you! nice people. but if you get too generalized with your niche. rip #sw fandom when you study mando'a or dai bendu: hai X3 !! #sw fandom when you get too generalized and talk 'prequel vs sequel': die #vent #this is funny because i was really nice about this sw comment. but its generalized. which means someone will tell me to die. #why do i know this? because ive made this comment about the sw fandom before. =_=

[scarycranegame]

a bit of a more serious post than usual so if you don't really wanna see that, i won't be upset at all if you keep scrolling.. the only reason why this is under a cut is because i myself don't really wanna look at it every time i scroll through my blog (is that a thing people do?? or am i just very self absorbed??? LMAO)

i'm a little concerned about urban himself and the direction he's taking his series.

like.. i'm all for creative expression, and i'm all for the idea of nobody policing anyone else's creative work for what can and can't be done in a certain narrative (let alone fiction in general), but i feel like the more interaction urban has had with his fanbase and the analog horror community in general, the more it's been affecting both him and his series.

i think that i should address his twitter presence and """controversy""" first, because that's the thing that's on everyone's mind when they hear "urbanspook" at this point.

i wanna preface this by saying that i fucking hate how people have been responding to all of this. what chezzkids and pastra are doing & have done is, indeed, harassment; they aren't criticizing urban's series, they're saying it shouldn't exist. both pastra and chezzkids can be quoted saying effectively the same thing: "urban should not have a platform, and by supporting him and his art, we're encouraging other people to make things similar to it, and that's bad." if you don't see the problem with that, let me spell it out for you: these are fascist, pro-censorship views that align with those of harmful far-right ideologies which call for the suppression of content made by and in support of marginalized people. if you're willing to overlook that because "icky shock horror bad!!!!", then i think you should log off of the internet and spend some time re-evaluating your perception of the world and those around you, especially those who are different than you. this man has been the victim of a targeted harassment campaign for, at most, a full year, and mocking him for lashing out as a result of said harassment is far more ableist than the phrase "autistic furry horror" will ever be.

with that being said, i greatly dislike the way urban conducts himself on twitter. yes, i know it's supposed to be ironic; yes, i know he's "trolling" and that everything he says on there is disingenuous..

...but this is the internet.

no one is going to genuinely believe it's all a big joke, no matter how many times urban says it and no matter how true it may be. they already don't see him from a very positive perspective, even if they don't have much of a justifiable reason to do so (although their reasoning is understandable to an extent), so playing up a purposefully "edgy, immature, rage-bait" persona might drive people away who may have otherwise been interested in the series. i've seen several testimonials from people who enjoy the series and have even created fan work, but are put off by urban's behavior on twitter, and some people have even gone so far as to claim that the series in of itself is objectively bad and devoid of any value solely because of the twitter situation despite not having watched a single video in the series. yeah, the whole point of the joke may be self-parody, the punchline might be that urban is playing up the analog horror community's wildly inaccurate perception of how he is as a person, but i feel like the joke's gone on a little bit too long to still be anything but harmful to urban and his presence on the internet. he's stated that after finishing his current series, he wants to step away from analog horror altogether and work on other things, but i fear that if the twitter antics continue the way they're going, that might not end up happening; either due to a lack of willingness on his part (after all, being around so much negativity for such a long time typically affects people very adversely), or due to a lack of remaining audience.

despite my concerns, however, it must be said that i don't know what any other communities he's active in are like, and if i had to guess, i would assume that his future work under the "urbanspook" name would be more in tune with his actual interests pertaining to the horror genre as opposed to anything in the orbit of the analog horror community. i could be completely wrong about the twitter business, and urban's effectiveness at creating things completely divorced from analog horror may not be compromised in the slightest. however, as a fan of his analog horror series, i still feel that it's important to suggest this possibility: even after it's finished, The Painter will still exist, and its association with this particular time in urban's online endeavors may make some people wary of giving it a chance when they otherwise may have enjoyed it.

speaking of urban's work, i think i should elaborate more on how urban's interactions with his fanbase are affecting the series itself as opposed to him and his online presence.

to put my view of where things are going in terms of urban's handling of the series, i remember reading a magazine interview with him at some point (i think it was either right before or right after PIGS was released) where he mentions that he got the idea of there being two killers from fan theories, which!! on paper it seems like a cool thing to do!! but recently with all of these new lore additions (ex., mask guy missing his face and acting like a dog, painter being female, revealing the killers' names at all, the episodes not being in chronological order, etc.), i'm starting to notice a sort of "matpat effect" (to coin a phrase) going on, where he's writing the story in such a way that canonizes fan theories just for the sake of canonizing those fan theories.. i don't find it very difficult to believe that all the people in his instagram/youtube comments asking the same exact questions over and over may have influenced his writing decisions a bit, and even though he himself has admitted he isn't the best writer, i think that the earlier episodes are the strongest of the series (sans PIGS and FAMILY, i love those two with all my heart and soul) and that urban's writing is best when it isn't influenced by the fanbase. (if anyone wants me to elaborate on this, let me know!! i might make a post at some point about what i think is different between the first few episodes and the newer episodes if anyone wants me to; i think legitimately analyzing this series is super fun and i have a lot of things to say about it!!)

all in all, i'm just really worried about urban. in the beginning, he seemed so adamant about being individual and unique with his series and his online presence; he defied so many expectations that people had regarding analog horror and those who create it and seemed so much happier to work on this series... but now it seems like he just wants to get it all over with so he can work on things he actually wants to work on, and all anyone sees him as is a caricature of someone who never even really existed in the first place outside of a moment of completely justified rage. his heart isn't in it anymore; at least, it doesn't seem like it to me, and i really hope that eventually all of this superficial, reactionary """controversy""" bullshit blows over and that maybe urban's remaining time in the analog horror community can be made at least a little bit more pleasant.

#let's get serious #urbanspook #the painter urbanspook #urbanspook analog horror #i can already hear the twitter pissbabies laughing at this post and calling me a ''MeAtRiDeR 🤓'' but honestly? i dont giv a fucky #i'd rather support a guy whose only crime was quite literally doing a little trolling #than people who unapologetically engage in targeted harassment against someone for creating something that they cant milk for content #or for.. [checks notes] not adhering to the word of the Almighty God of Analog Horror Alex Kister/sarcasm #(if it isnt obvious already i hate the mandela catalog fandom and alex kister LMAO) #no but seriously #i dont know urban and i probably never will (at least not personally) #but i care about him a lot and i support him 110% #even if he might be a little bit of an asshole on twitter sometimes #he made something that served as a gateway for me to meet incredible people and experience some incredible things #even the bad stuff that came from being in this fandom taught me valuable lessons and gave me new insight on life #this is the first fandom that i've ever really felt comfortable and welcome in; the first fandom that i might've actually had an impact on #and no amount of whiny puritans or washed-up fnaftubers or subpar ''horror'' creators can change that #yeah the series might not be the best but things dont have to be The Best™ or even objectively good at all in order to be enjoyed #and i enjoy this series. i enjoy the series' fanbase. i enjoy that despite it all this series EXISTS and nothing can make it not exist #it happened and no one can change that and people will inevitably make more things like it and i LOVE THAT #so in conclusion fuck pastra fuck chezzkids fuck minaxa ESPECIALLY urban stays winning and so does this fanbase kthxbye #scary crane rambles

[beckyblah]

MAN you are so right about cprimes. I enjoyed the dynamic so so fucking much, it was fascinating to me but at this point the green bean makes it impossible to look at art of his character and like... Not get annoyed. If it makes sense. Like i cannot enjoy the character in the story itself bc of the guy it is based on, especially because it makes so much sense why the narrative always seemed to favor him in one way or another.

Anyway. L'moonburg should have been the true ending, hope 🟩 quiets down bc every time i hear about him nowadays i get a headache

Eugh and personally, like I absolutely can look at art - especially old art - of the character and feel happy and not annoyed. And the ending of dsmp is actually so like… far out of my mind that I don’t even really consider it at this point? But for some reason, the idea of making art of c!dream again makes my skin crawl. I just think maybe it’s because I’m afraid people who actually still like the dude will find it or take it as me implicitly low-key agreeing with their views? Idk. I’m certainly no stranger to having a character I like be played by a shithead actor, or a piece of media I enjoy being made my a gross person, etc.

But the fact that he wasn’t just immediately and instantly dropped by fans and peers. The fact that there’s still a fairly vocal and loud crowd of followers for him. The fact that this just dragged for SO LONG. That part is new-ish. And I think it’s what plays into me not wanting to do anything too closely related to his character.

#for instance #another extremely problematic creator that still has a fanbase and supporters that makes me not want to touch her creations: JK Rowling #contrast that with something like Danny Phantom. Id still consume / make fan content despite Butch Hartman #because there pretty much isn’t anyone vocally supporting him and his views #idk I know that’s so convoluted and completely ridiculous logic #but it’s how I feel. so #ask #dsmp

[bimbopawz]

yeah, my true goal of Valle Verdeposting/Foxxoposting is to be one of those ARG fans that gets other people interested only cause i make content with a wildly different tone from the source

like yes! i will make cutesy fanart of the limited anthro designs! i will make dumb edits based on "what the base game characters should be like"! i will act like the Animal Crossing style base game before all the AI additions make it disturbing is the game that deserves to exist!

this is how ARGs should be promoted to others, actually

#Luz barks #Valle Verde #my true goal is to also be the only person with the first fan presence #i genuinely hope so badly as more tapes come out that it actually gets a big fanbase like Petscop and Walten Files got! #i think of those two cause i know the vibes of fanbases i'm thinking of are similar #also Petscop fans please god help me the creator of that even shouted out Valle Verde