#tldr don't harass people over ships

[jayteacups]

my stance on ships & shipping culture - a quick note

(please read before interacting!)

I'm seeing discourse in the AOT Tumblr niche ramp up once again (what would the AOT fandom be without harassment and discourse /s), so I want to put up this quick note to be linked in my pinned navigation post. Therefore, from now on, if someone sends an ask about ship discourse, it'll be clear whether or not they've read this post. Therefore that'll make it easier for me to see who respects my boundaries and who is and isn't worth my time.

This blog is primarily a Levi x Reader-insert/OC-insert/Self-ship blog. If you have a problem with this, save us both the time and energy, and just block me. If you harass me or anyone else who enjoys this type of harmless content, I will block you. This is not up for debate.

However, I am also a multi-shipper. You'll occasionally find that I reblog fanworks of Eruri, Levihan, Rivetra, Levifar etc, and that I tag all ship content so you can filter out the ones you may not like. I’m not a ‘proshipper’ though; for example, you won’t find any reblogs of fanworks involving a veteran character being with a recruit character in a romantic or sexual sense. However, I will never harass anybody for shipping a ship that I don't like, so I expect everyone from every corner of the fandom to return that same courtesy.

So please do not bring me into any ship discourse, I’m not interested in entertaining pointless debates over ships. I do not and never will condone harassment over people's opinions on fictional ships.

If somebody doesn't ship your OTP, or they ship something you personally do not like, that doesn't mean you have the moral high ground over them, and that certainly doesn't mean you can falsely accuse people of awful things or leave anonymous death threats in people's inboxes. Additionally, it's okay for your OTP to be fanon. The canon/fanon status of a ship doesn't make it better or worse than another ship. The sooner people accept this instead of twisting canon to suit a false narrative, the better. On that note, please don't send me long-winded, unsolicited asks about how a fanon pairing is 'actually canon if you read the subtext' whilst quoting 'facts' with no or incorrect sources. Let canon be canon and fanon be fanon. There's a difference, and a reason why they have separate labels. I'm not saying that you can't have a different interpretation of canon or the subtext, but I'm saying that not everybody will agree with you, and it doesn't automatically make your opinion the right or 'true' one.

I should also point out that the actions of a few bad apples is not representative of an entire ship community. For example, I have seen some people falsely assume the entire Eruri community are toxic based on the recent anons harassing Levi-centric blogs. This simply isn't true. The majority of shippers are very chill, but the toxic minority just happens to be the loudest. Let's not make assumptions about Eruri shippers or insult their OTP, because I have seen a few people do this in response to seeing the harassment, which I find incredibly hypocritical and unhelpful. Don't lose sight of the bigger picture - which is that we're all fans of the same thing and we all want to have fun in whatever way appeals to us.

Fandom is supposed to be fun, and I believe you should be focusing your energy on what you like rather than what you don't. Personally I think it's strange that these weirdo anons and harassers spend so much time and energy harassing people who don't ship their OTP, rather than using that time and energy to support creators who make fanworks of their OTP, or even creating some fanworks themselves. They care more about making other people miserable rather than fostering a positive community around their ships, and that is something I absolutely do not support or condone.

If you've read everything and have reached the end of this post, thank you for your time. If you fundamentally disagree with my stance, fine, but don't debate me on it. I've made it clear I won't change my mind on it, and you probably won't either, so I suggest you block me instead of starting a futile argument.

#READ BEFORE INTERACTING #this is mostly a pre-emptive disclaimer post bc discourse is kicking off AGAIN and I want to give a blanket statement #tldr don't harass people over ships #this will be linked in my pinned post and bio too

[unladielike]

( i honestly can’t help but laugh whenever i discover an anti has me hardblocked... and these antis spread misinformation about pr/o-shippers too, that it’s just like trash taking itself out.

but honestly, you don’t necessarily have to have problematic ships in order to be a pr/o-shipper - you just have to not condone harassment over ships. and yeah, while i won’t deny most pr/o-shippers in the rpc tend to ship inc/est or minor/adult ships, the fact antis have to resort to spreading misinformation to make them self seem morally superior is so damn hilarious to me.

honestly, i wouldn’t be surprised if people would assume i’m a pr/o-shipper too despite the fact i actually agree with them in/cest and minor/adult ships are gross - i just do not appreciate seeing people witch hunt others or hurl death threats at people consensually writing things they don’t like, regardless of how i might feel about the topics they are writing about, because at the end of the day, real people matter more than fictional lines on paper.

seriously, it costs $0 to just block/unfollow/blacklist and mind your own business. plus, all this moral outrage people have towards supposed ‘p/edophilia’ is performative af. like, if you care about csa victims so much, then why are you exerting so much of your energy on being mad at fictional characters being abused when you could help out actual victims of csa/grooming in real life??

i dunno, man... i just feel like these people need to touch grass or something, because they do more slacktivism than actual writing. i mean, maybe it’s just me, but i personally do not get how you could not be tired, calling out people for shipping crimes or being angry all the time, when all i wanna do when i come back home from work is scream about characters and maybe write self-indulgent shit.

...TO THAT END, I DO NOT HAVE THE SPOONS TO CARE ABOUT WHAT GROSS SHIT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING, because it doesn’t concern me. honestly, i wouldn’t say i ‘support’ it, but it’s more like i acknowledge that people are always gonna write weird shit regardless, so i’ll simply ignore it and move on, because for me, it’s not healthy or productive to my mental health, focusing on things i hate. )

#shipping discourse tw #⸾ ❖︎ ⸾ ( OUT OF ) ⤹ •• 𝕗𝕒𝕟𝕗𝕚𝕔𝕥𝕚𝕠𝕟. #[ ngl i can't believe 'don't harass other over ships' is still a controversial take in 2022 ] #[ the worst part is... this wouldn't even be the first time people wrongly assumed i shipped problematic stuff ] #[ but you know a person's vibes are rancid when they feel like it's their duty to call out shit to make the rpc 'a better place' ] #[ when really... they're only making things WORSE ] #[ and listen i get being squicked out by things in fiction ] #[ but there's a point when it gets to be too much ] #[ if you're telling another human being behind the screen to k/ill themselves ] #[ like... you're not being edgy anymore YOU'RE JUST BEING AN ASSHOLE ] #[ and i don't know about you but i would personally not want to be responsible for another person's death ] #[ or their mental health deteriorating even though i might personally hate their guts ] #[ because guess what... it's called being an actual human being?? ] #-[ and when you resort to throwing a temper tantrum on the dash... you just look foolish ] #[ ESPECIALLY if it's not instances of ooc racism or transphobia you're angry about but fictional things ] #[ and if by pointing this out makes people will unfollow/block me I DO NOT CARE ] #[ cause i don't want to be mutuals with people who would justify sending others death threats or threatening others with violence ] #[ over shipping crimes anyways ] #[ Y'ALL ARE UGLY AND I DON'T WANT YOU IN MY SPACE ] #[ anyways tldr?? pro-ship is not synonymous with 'problematic shipping' and if you describe it as such you're being disingenuous FULL STOP ]

[itspyon]

i think we should go back to the og era of fandom a la star trek fans writing letters to each other. jk but like. this might be a word dump essay but i am so so happy that fandom in general has become a more mainstream thing where people get to express themselves and talk about the things they like with like-minded people and stuff. but... like u said there is a line. and for a while there was a lot of unspoken fandom etiquette that i think we really need to bring back in full force because, again like u said it's baby's first rpf fandom (and even in non rpf fandoms there were still these rules!!! some things u just don't bring up to the creator of a work!!! fuck spn fans) and a lot of these younger people in fandom grew up/had a lot of their formative years during covid and i think not just in fandom spaces that a lot of kids didn't get some of the social skills that comes with being normal to people online or otherwise. the lines between fandom and the piece of media itself are blurring fast, not just over here in mcyt world but i've also seen it in some of the sports rpf fandoms i'm in, like hockey (that whole booktok debacle that ended with a hockey player and his wife getting harassed on instagram) and f1 (social media admins of the teams and brands are using ship names from the fandom on twitter and tiktok and fans are feeding into it and shit) and its kinda terrifying honestly. tldr my favorite post on this damn website is the "if pete wentz is mad i'm writing about him getting blasted in the ass then he can go look at his bank account about it" because i agree that this is ultimately in the grand scheme of things not a huge issue. BUT i feel like there needs to be more clarity among fans about where the boundaries are not about an individual person, but about where fandom ends and the piece of media/person begins. i have more thoughts on the like. nsfw stuff/side of things but this is getting really long lol so if u wanna hear lemme know and i will essay andy more

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#posting without notes i agree wholeheartedly #giving you a big kiss anon #you're always welcome to essay andy in my asks

[terezi-pyrope]

not a request but a question (not trying to be rude genuinely curious)

why is your blog proship safe and what do you view to be proship? i might js only know proship as pedoships and stuff but am i missing smth?

(there's a TLDR at the end dw if my main answer is too much)

proship is pretty much exactly what the word sounds like, pro (as in support of) n ship as in like specifically fictional relationships, being proship just means u think that everyone has right to ship whatever they want as long as their tagging their stuff so people can avoid seeing something they don't want to and avoiding things you don't like in ships/fiction instead of harassing the creators. proship includes includes not harassing people over more taboo ships as well but you don't have to ship those things to be proship you don't have to ship at all to be proship, being proship doesn't mean you support the things you consume in fiction because there's a difference between what you want to happen to your dolls and jpegs vs real ppl

the reason I say safe proship safe is because plenty of mogai spaces are hostile towards proship ppl because they don't actually know what it means or they do and they just think it's gross and immoral

TLDR:

proship is a stance not a kind of ship that means being anti harassment about shipping and fiction and doesn't actually mean you ship or don't ship some things

also thanks for asking that question I'm always happy to answer questions about my stances on things :3

#asks [:< #proship safe #proship mogai

[elliemuze]

Look at me? Look at me.

If you post hate about a fictional character and don't use anti tags? You are trash. You're the living embodiment of fandom's downside, bred of the same ilk as those who harass creators and actors with their ships. No, really. You suck.

It is basic tumblr etiquette. It's a bottom line show of respect. Yes, no one can force you to anti tag, you're not going to get suspended or banned. But don't you dare start crying and making a stink when YOU break the social contract and suddenly find pushback or hate in your inbox. (This is not advocating anon hate or harassment, by the way. You people also suck, and you're cowards to boot.)

I don't care what moral high ground or self-appointed superiority you think you have over other fans. Whatever your argument was, regardless what side of the field you're standing on, you lost all integrity the moment you took up the chum bucket and started tossing. Pathetic bullies and attention-seekers, the lot of you, having the audacity to Surprise-Pikachu-Face when the sharks show up. It's fictional entertainment. (Sloppily-written entertainment, at that.) Grow up and start behaving like a real person. Seek fucking therapy, while you're at it.

"But I didn't know about tagging!"

Fair enough. Now you do.

"It's not my responsibility to tag, it's my blog anyways."

It is your responsibility. Yes, it's your blog, but you are responsible for what you post. That's why the tagging system is there, to be used. Like I said, no one can force you, but it's 100% a social contract. Breaking it yields no real-world consequences for you, true, but that choice DOES affect other people. (Example: If you don't tag a post with trigger warnings, no, you won't get banned, but you easily could have ruined someone's whole day or week or even caused them to relapse with your negligence.) People are in that tag you're shitting on to enjoy themselves and don't want to be accosted by vitriolic tantrums invading their space.

"Idgaf."

See above. If you can't be bothered with the simplest of courtesies, that's on you. You don't have to care, but you are an asshole.

Bonus Trivia: even if you don't tag your post explicitly with X, if you even just mention X, it will show up in that tag. That's why the social nicety exists. If you're shitting on something fictional (character, show, movie, book, etc), use the goddamn anti tag. Examples of these tags include: "anti firstname lastname," "anti showname" "anti seriesname," "anti shipname," "anti acronym."

It's not rocket science and never has been. That being said, if you genuinely don't know and don't understand how the tagging system works? Ask. I am always happy to help you if you're lost in this arena. If you're not comfortable asking me, that's completely understandable and no offense taken - there are many users you can ask, or you can even contact Tumblr Support directly. I'm sure there are plenty of existing threads all over the interwebs too that outline the tagging system and how it works.

TLDR: Quit being dickheads, y'all.

#hotd #house of the dragon #alicent hightower #daemon targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen #team green #team black #aemond targaryen #lucerys velaryon #otto hightower #rhaenys targaryen #corlys velaryon #apologies to anyone whos been peacefully keeping to their lane and respecting everybody in the pool #you shouldnt have to see this and im sorry you will #i hope your day is otherwise a pleasant one and i wish you good fortune in the wars to come 💜 #personal

[alyssapoprocks]

After this Kit Connor situation I think the internet needs a refresher on the fact celebrities are NOT your fictional characters. You don't get to have assumptions or theories on their lives. You aren't entitled to their personal lives just because you're a fan. You're not owed an explanation on their sexuality for YOUR peace of mind.

Celebrities aren't queerbaiting you. They're real fucking people and the way their "fans" just ignore that and continue to demand they "come out" is fucking disgusting and I'm so fucking angry about it.

This goes for the "gaylors" too. Even if Taylor Swift was a raging lesbian, you're NOT owed that information. And if she's said otherwise? Shut the fuck up. You can't theorise and make assumptions on a real person's life.

If a celebrity is being vague or not talking about their sexuality at all, take a fucking hint and shut up.

Kit Connor literally said he didn't want to put a label on himself, and now he's been forced to because little weirdos on the internet started harassing him about "queerbaiting". HE'S A REAL PERSON. HE DIDN'T QUEERBAIT YOU.

Tldr celebrities don't owe you shit and if you care so much about strangers sexualities you need to step away from the internet. Stop harassing real people over information they don't owe you.

I'm also looking at you, "Harry Styles is gay" people.

Also, just to add, stop shipping real people too. That's also really goddamn weird. Just leave celebrities alone. If you need to have sexuality headcanons, watch fictional shows. You can't headcanon real people, it's weird.

#celebrities #rant #sexualities #kit Connor #learn how to act please

[phoenix-is-the-hottest-thing]

So are you a proshipper? simple question that isn't a buzzword

That's not enough for it to not be a buzzword, you have to actually explain what you want to know.

If I say "are you an anti?" to someone who thinks antis are people protecting children from harm by driving off creeps, they will have a very different opinion from someone who thinks antis are people who harass others based off their shipping preferences, even if both of these people have about the same values at the end of the day.

So what does proshipper mean to you? Someone who minds their own business and tags content they think could make others uncomfortable? Then sure I would be one. Someone who has no boundaries and forces their kinks on others claiming freedom of speech? Then no I would not be one.

Antis and proshippers are made up words and their meanings vary with social circles. I am not an anti because those guys have harassed me in the past and I am very angry with them and the methods they generally use such as block lists and callouts, which I think are ineffective, dangerously enable dogpiling, and enable abusers to label anyone they want as dangerous, etc. I've seen it go horribly wrong over and over again, in fact I can't remember an occasion where it went right for everyone involved??, so I'm of the mind that they should just stay away from me if they think the bullshit's worth it.

I also understand that the landscape of tumblr enables much better content filtering, unlike twitter which lends itself to an onslaught of gross content you don't want to see. That means that twitter antis not wanting certain content to exist comes from the principle that they will be subjected to the content no matter what they do. Meanwhile, tumblr antis have to go out their damn way to find content they hate, which completely changes the narrative from "leave me alone" to "I refuse to leave you alone".

So like, despite my negative experiences I can see where antis come from with a minimum of compassion, and I definitely do not want to subject anyone to things they don't want to see, and do my best to give folk the tools they need to avoid whatever content makes them uncomfy. I've sometimes asked people to do the same for me, like tag their elysia hate, because I do not like seeing her beaten to death at the end of a long day. I don't think anyone's a violent creep for making that kinda vent art, I just don't enjoy it so I make sure I don't have to see it.

If that makes me a proshipper, sure whatever I guess?? But then being a proshipper is hardly ground for useless fuss, no? It's just being polite.

tldr it's a more nuanced topic than "what's your binary problematicity zodiac sign" so be more specific if i haven't answered your question

#phoebe rambles #asks

[daydreamerwonderkid]

Maybe it's just the greysexual in me speaking, but the near endless debate over bringing "morality" into fandom spaces is just sort of odd to me.

"Odd" in the sense that the vast majority of these debates are typically just a group of people being very upset that their personal squick is being enjoyed by another set of people, and somehow that "justifies" them sending a barrage of harassment towards those people.

And as someone whose fandom experience mainly revolves around familial and platonic dynamics, less so romantic ones or just shipping period, I find this particularly weird and odd.

Because the fact is, the vast majority of fandom is just straight up squick to me. Mostly because, well, the majority of fandom spaces are focused exclusively on shipping.

And I just ... don't care about romantic ships. Not to the same degree that other people do, at least. There might be some ships here and there that I like, but even then my investment isn't ever as deep as others.

It's very rare for me to be into a fandom solely because of a ship.

Mostly romantic shipping is just ... amusing to me? It's just not essential for my fandom experience.

I do enjoy shipping and I do find it a fun part of fandom. But if I ever had to choose between reading a romantic pairing or a messy familial drama, I'm gonna pick the latter.

But I am capable of accepting multiple headcanons and pairings all at once. Like trying on multiple sweaters or hats and then realizing actually all I want in that moment is a cozy scarf.

But I am very aware that this is a me thing.

So even though I have a lot of things blocked or filtered, I don't get personally upset when something somehow manages to slip through the cracks.

I'm very much of the mindset that everyone is entitled to what they like and what they enjoy. Just because I prefer a certain character or relationship to be one way, doesn't mean everyone else is beholden to what I like.

There are so MANY things in any fandom I'm a part of that I do not like. There are a shit ton of things that make me uncomfortable. There are even a few things that will slip through that trigger some very real traumas I have.

But I don't harass people over it.

I filter, I block, and I move on.

Tldr: Fandom as a whole can be extremely squick to me, but I still find a way to have fun without giving other people shit for enjoying something I really don't like.

I really think others should learn to do the same.

#dreamer talks #fandom #fandom discourse #shipping #shipping dynamics #greysexual #pls keep in mind #that this is just my personal take #you're free to disagree #but don't take this as an opportunity #to be shitty #also for the record #i don't like the #anti ship or pro ship labels #i'm very much a #mind your own fucking business #sort of person #anyway #that's all i wanted to say

[teenagedkraken]

you don't have to answer this if you don't want to but what are your thoughts on the ruby and chelsea ship and things surrounding it?

//You're good. I don't mind answering. I suppose it was only a matter of time before I got something like this. Hot take under the read more because long and tangent-y.

I'm gonna be straight up honest with you as a person who's seen and been apart of countless controversial ship debates over the course of his time on tumblr over many years, I do not care anymore. I just really don't. I was there for Dib/Zim, I was there for Ratchet/Nefarious, KiGo, and so many others. And you know what? It made me realize how much wasted time it all was.

You like it? It makes you excited and want to engage in things and have fun with other people? More power to you. Enjoy that little thing you like. All that I ask is that you're not an asshole to other people. If people, understandably so, don't like it then leave them be.

But that also goes the other way. Don't harass people or make remarks about them just because they ship something. They're still people. They aren't defined by just one thing. Hell, you probably have something you like that you keep quiet about too because people will look at you weird. I know I do.

I have in the past burnt bridges with people because of their ships, cuz I was a dumb kid, and you know what? I regret those decisions. And if I could make amends with those people I would because there's so much more to them than just some controversial ship.

TLDR;; I am old and I don't care anymore. It's literally not worth my time. I have more important things to think about like providing food and paying my bills than waste it on any sort of ships. All that I ask is for both sides to be respectful about the manner like adults.

#{OOC}

[proship-ghost]

Debunking more anti ideas because I'm bored and they're so bad.

Part 1:

[⚠️ Trigger warning for abuse, sexual assault, violent crimes, mentions of CSEM, Incest, Rape and Grooming⚠️]

Again, we start with this idea that all proshippers ship age gap and or find shotas and lolis sexually appealing - they do not. Therapists have said MULTIPLE times proshipping is fine as a coping mechanism ( it's to let characters thrive in ways you cannot). Stop spreading blatant misinformation because you don't like the facts. Many proshippers that I know don't even use it as a coping mechanism - they just don't believe in harassment over 1's and 0's.

Nobody is "idolizing" their trauma. MOST proshippers put a warning for the content they post- it's your own fault going into tags that have triggering content and getting triggered by it. I have triggers from my trauma- block the tags and people who post it- it's just that simple.

In fiction, there are no illegal themes because fiction cannot be illegal. (Also, don't you self ship with Creepypasta characters- who are murderers- are you condoning murdering people?) Again, incorrect definitions to further push your point. Proshipping is Pro- For shipping meaning people are allowed to ship what they want, that doesn't mean we can't be made uncomfortable by them but I'm not going to send death threats for opinions on fiction.

No. You're just simply outright wrong. Many proshippers are victims and CAN use fiction to cope but, some simply do it for the hell of it- they're not condoning it in real life because they can make that distinction.

Part 2:

Their "sources" for fiction affecting reality

Now let's start with the more "easy" to debunk things.

About half of these are literal children responding to animated movies they've watched. Are you seriously telling me that you think that's a valid source? Literal children not understanding a distinction - you do realize that hurts your case correct?

People who commit crimes are going to commit crimes anyways- regardless of watching a show/movie or reading a novel- they may influence HOW these crimes are committed but that's not at all the CAUSE for it.

Later in the post they claim porn has the same affect:

Pornographic content is not to be taken as reality and most have a disclaimer saying "this is like every case of acting do not replicate this at home". It's people's own fault for looking at dramatized content then assuming that's how it works. That's certainly not the contents fault- but the people who skip through to the "good stuff".

It's sad to see so many people fall immediately into this rabbit hole of purity culture and pro-censorship over half truths and then start whole heartedly defending it.

TLDR; An antis "proof" as to why proshipping is bad is a mixture of using incorrect definitions, poor taste sources and just outright misinformation.

#proship #proshipping #proshipper safe #proshippers please interact #anti anti #disproving antis #anti rhetoric #antis do not use good arguments a lot of the times- though I do agree many proshippers or people who call themselves such can go too far #long ish post #Can you tell im getting more comfortable using tags now

[shipping-strawberry]

I wanna say foremost that I have absolutely nothing against Lacey. She seems like a very nice person, and I have seen her art— it is cute!

However, I don’t think she should return to Tumblr.

It’s not because I dislike her, or that I’m an anti, or anything like that. I support her, and I’m upset at the hate she’s getting. It gives me heartache.

But I really don’t think that Tumblr is healthy for her, particularly mentally. She’s already gotten very suicidal over hate these past few months, if not years. I’m worried that she may end up actually hurting herself, or worse.

Plus, the consistent harassment, suicide baits, death threats…I don’t think she should have to endure all that just to make positivity posts for us proshippers, sweet as they are.

All in all, her leaving Tumblr seems like a much better alternative than her remaking blogs over and over again just to get the same disgust and hate every time.

[TLDR at the bottom.]

hi there, anon!

i want to start off by saying that you most certainly do bring up a fair point, and you are right; lacey will keep getting harassed, no matter how many times she remakes her blog. antis will just keep digging through the proship tag to find her blog over and over and over again.

i will admit, though, i don't agree completely.

antis are sending her hate because she's a proshipper. we all know that. but that's not the only reason they do it; they want attention.

and that's why antis do what they do. that's why they send anon hate. that's why they crosstag. that's why they start discourse on proship posts. because they're attention-seeking little gremlins, desperate for people to notice them — wherever it's in a negative light or not.

i've wanted to say this to lacey for some time now, though i never did because i felt like it would be too rude, but she really should just avoid responding to anon hate altogether. i know she does it because she feels like she's standing up for herself, but it's so pointless, because surprise, surprise: antis aren't going to give two thirds of a fuck about what she has to say. she can cook up the best response with multiple articles and sources to back her up and prove her haters wrong, and guess what? they'll still call her a pedophile. it won't change a thing, because they'll still be starved for the attention that they get from her.

and honestly, every time i see lacey, or even just anyone in general respond to anon hate, i just mentally facepalm so hard, because guys — you're giving them what they want.

i don't know if it's obvious, but i myself am a very angry person in real life. i have extreme difficulty managing my anger, and i constantly go apeshit over even just the smallest of things. i've even had to seek help because of this behavior.

trust me — i know how tempting it can be to respond to anon hate. i know how much you will get the urge to just let loose and go off after reading an aggressive message in your inbox. but just don't do it. block them, report them, and keep the hate out of your inbox and away from your blog. at the end of the day, antis just want attention.

don't give them what they want.

don't give them that satisfaction.

and here's the thing: if there's one specific anti constantly harassing you on anon like lacey had, and you keep replying to all their asks, they're going to keep on harassing you.

and if you don't? they'll eventually fuck off and leave you alone, because they're not getting the attention that they desire from you.

if lacey wants to stop getting anon hate, then she needs to stop responding to it. because antis will just continue abusing her and using her as a source of attention. needless to say, they don't give a shit if they're hurting her and badly damaging her mental health. because they'll put their own desires ahead of anyone else's, because that's just what antis do.

want to know something? i discovered one of my friends is a proshipper very recently. and although they don't actually have any ships, because shipping is not really their thing, they told me that they used to run a (now deactivated) proship blog on tumblr with a few other people. and guess what? they have never received hate from antis. not once.

want to know why? because they didn't allow anonymous asks.

antis know that hiding behind the anonymous mask is a cowardly move. and they know that they're the ones in the wrong, because the moment a blog doesn't allow anonymous asks, they stay quiet.

tumblr is most certainly damaging for lacey's mental health. you are absolutely right about that. not even just that, but it can even be damaging for other people when they see those anon asks, too.

stepping away from tumblr is a great decision for her to make, and i can see why you think it's a good idea. i think it's a good idea, too. last time lacey had her blog deactivated, she took some time away from tumblr, which is probably what's best for her, and i think she's doing the same thing again.

but her mental health can be so much better if she just chooses to remain on the positive side if the community.

yes, when she decides to come back, there will be those nasty anons in her inbox again. i can guarantee that. but if she'd only stop responding to them, they will eventually leave her alone.

and if they don't, the simple solution is to just turn of anonymous asks. because that ensures the antis will fuck off completely.

things can be so much better for lacey if she just stops giving antis what they want. because then she can focus on happily posting her art and posting/reblogging positivity for proshippers. antis won't bother her again, and her mental health won't continue to get damaged.

i hope this didn't sound too rude, because that wasn't my intention at all. i just wanted to share about my thoughts on anonymous hate, and how to deal with it.

TLDR: antis want attention, so if lacey wants to stop getting anon hate, she needs to stop replying to it. replying to anon hate gives antis the attention they want, so please don't respond to them and give them that satisfaction. if you don't respond, the antis will eventually leave you alone because they're not getting the attention they want from you. turning off anon asks also ensures there will be no hate from antis whatsoever, because antis are cowards and are too scared to stop hiding behind the anon mask.

#ask #long post #proship #proship safe #anti anti #antis dni #anti harassment #proshippers please interact #not positivity #abuse mention #harassment mention

[kokonoesweeb]

Naze Nani Kokonoe's Weeb

Cookie for the reference! Anyway I guess it's about time I posted an “About Me” thing. It really took me a while to figure out just what I wanted to put into such a post.

I am...an older (people call us Xennials) anime fan who first came to tumblr primarily to try and keep up with an artist I first met on twitter. Since twitter is a dumpster fire I decided maybe I would start posting here the kinds of things I would post on twitter, minus the uh.. NSFW stuff, which is apparently verboten here. (You can find me on Aethy.com if you want to see it...same username) Mainly, that consists of screencaps of Koikatsu, where I pose and dress up some character I like...usually Rin Kokonoe from Kodomo no Jikan.

Speaking of Rin and Kojika, I love Rin, and Kojika is basically my favorite manga. L0li-Onee is basically my favorite thing in the world, and my second favorite manga is Yuzumori-san. So, yeah, I like l0li, but mainly from a softcore or yuri perspective.

I guess you could say I am #proship, considering the above. I never really put much thought into it, but I'm not about to harass people over their ships. Don't throw stones from glass houses y'know? Most I would do is ignore/mute someone if they made me uncomfortable.

Anyway TLDR, what you will find here:

Mainly pics which I consider cute.

Mostly of Rin Kokonoe in various outfits, created in Koikatsu using other people's models, or generated in stablediffusion (oh yeah, I play with SD)

Sometimes pics of other characters

Most pics will be girls of the smol and/or small-breasted persuasion.

Very occasionally me babbling about something or gushing about an anime or manga.

I might occasionally talk about mastodon/fediverse (or I might not)

What you will not find here:

Hate of anyone just for who they are, or who they ship, or what they like

Politics--I mean everyone has their views, but I just don't want to discuss it here (I generally don't want to discuss it online anywhere, really)

#introduction #l0li #pro ship #koikatsu #ロリ #こどものじかん #proship safe

[weirdqueerleftistunity]

Sol (he/it) QUEEEER!!

Welcome to my Centricide blog, dedicated to that one web series that you most definitely shouldn't fucking watch!! I only really post about certain characters because I do not like the others, so if you are wondering where <insert character> is then that is why. And no, I do not care much for canon, so if you think my interpretations of characters are "cringe" or "incorrect" then maybe you are just not silly enough for my blog.

ASKS OPEN: Feel free to send in asks!! I might doodle requests if it peaks my interest, emphasis on MIGHT, so feel free to send in hypotheticals. Only request characters I've already drawn before though.

Tags:

op -- centricide -- authunity -- leftist unity -- jreg ancom -- jreg commie

🔁 rb -- 🧭 extremists -- 🌟 leftist unity -- 🚭 pacsan -- 💳 ancap -- 🔥 ancom -- ♀️ anfem -- ☮️ anpac -- 🌈 anqueer -- 🧢 authright -- ⭐ commie -- ✝️ conservative -- 🏳️‍🌈 homonat -- 🚬 insan -- 💀 polnih -- ☢️ posadist

And yes I ship Leftist Unity. Leftist Unity is not problematic, and I don't understand how some of you have come to that conclusion. More under the cut.

At no point is Ancom explicitly stated to be a minor (as far as I'm aware). The term "anarkiddy" is a derogatory term for anarcho-leftists, it's demeaning because you're implying they're immature and childish. And it is completely in line with Commie's character to be using a demeaning term like this, because Commie views himself as more intelligent and mature than the people around him. Actually, it's really important to Commie as a character that Commie stops referring to Ancom as anarkiddy, because he's come to the realisation that Ancom is an equal to him and that he needs qim. Take the song Leftist Unity -- a part of the whole reason the last verse holds so much weight is because Commie drops the demeaning nickname and actually calls Ancom by qis name. Commie is realising he has driven a wedge between them because of his own flaws, and that he just can't go on without Ancom despite having claimed he was better than the other. None of this is inherently about Ancom being a minor, this is about Ancom being treated as an equal. That concludes my mini analysis.

All that being said, I MUST emphasise: one shitty joke in the director's cut is not confirmation that Ancom is a minor. For realsies. It's just one offshoot line.

I think something that sucks is that, maybe for some people, this assumption has come from a place of misunderstanding. For example, there has been a lot of push by certain people that being nonbinary is a phase or neopronouns are for children and this general narrative that there are no nonbinary adults.. This obviously isn't true, and I worry that people who have come to the conclusion Ancom is a minor might partially believe that because they've internalised this or actually agree with this narrative. DISCLAIMER: ADULTS CAN BE NONBINARY <- *I* am a nonbinary adult and there are plenty of other adult gender queers out there. Ancom is not a minor just because qi has silly pronouns.

However, I don't mind if you view qim as a minor. That's none of my business. But don't go around calling a ship gross because of something YOU'VE projected onto a character, that's your own headcanon and it's not universal. And if you ARE under the assumption Ancom is a minor because qi acts silly or uses neopronouns or the like, I just want you to pause and think about if it's coming from your own assumptions of what an adult is meant to look like. If you still think Ancom is a minor after that reflection, then that's okay, and that's your headcanon, and you are allowed to silly wit it :3 Just don't force that hc onto others.

TLDR; don't harass me over my headcanon and I won't harass you over yours. 👍

#pinned

[mallowstep]

hey mallow, i wanted to thank you genuinely because your stance on proships/antis made me take a step back and really evaluate why i was even upset with those ships.

I’ve always been pretty gullible so you having a more neutral standpoint helped me try to see things from a logical stance instead of just going with whatever people expect me to do. It’s stupid to get so genuinely upset about some words on a screen. And some things need to be handled delicately, but other than that, it’s just characters.

i went on a mini ramble and I apologize, so i’ll wrap this up. Thank you and have a great day

ey, we love to hear it.

i don't actually feel like rambling abt this, but tldr, i think a lot of young people are terrified of being wrong because the use of online shaming and harassment over the slightest perceived faults. it's like...if rsd had a child with scrupulosity and that child decided it was going to take these factors out externally instead of internally.

here's a post from scrupulosity comics that got that idea in my head. as someone who regularly finishes a chain of thoughts with, "also, i can't tell anyone this, because they might start to act on it, and they shouldn't act on these thoughts because they are the thoughts of a crazy person. however i am going to act on them because that is the logical thing to do." i. yeah.

at this point, my interest in shipcourse is not as legitimate discourse but as a strange subculture. i think people invested in it are often unaware of how...specific it is? all of this discourse is incredibly specific.

(then again, published author diane duane reblogged a post that referenced antis, so perhaps i'm downplaying things. or perhaps this says more about me, because it's not like duane doesn't occupy a fairly slim niche herself.) (that said y'all should read her work it's fantastic.)

i'm struggling to figure out how to word my next idea. i think i could...

okay, here.

a lot of my opinions are amoral. like. a lot of my (political?) stances are not dependent on what i think is good/bad. i have sat down and thought about ethics and philosophy and ultimately, when i ask, "should this thing be allowed?" what i really mean is, "does this hurt other people?"

(obligatory aside that this is complicated, because hurting other people is not an objectively defined thing. some people might think helping a trans kid figure out their identity is hurting them. but i'm trying not to be too fussy with specifics.)

i've said before that you can think that something is morally reprehensible and still think it should be allowed to exist. i think the book i was forced to read in eighth grade was pretty fucking terrible. i mean, the context i read it in was really the problem*, but let's put that aside, because for a long time i didn't care, the book was horrific, it was upsetting and terrible and awful.

but i still think it should be allowed to exist.

*the context is (almost) always the problem.

so yeah. i suppose that's what i have to say about this. i breathe out, i form my opinion not based on whether something pings my brain as good/bad/right/wrong, but what the answer to the question, "does this hurt other people is?"

(aside: why other people? well, i have complicated feelings about bodily autonomy and self harm that aren't relevant.)

darkfic doesn't hurt people. censorship does.

<3

#ask #anon #mine #shipcourse

[cainightfics]

these anons are so annoying, it also frustrates me because tyrelliot is nowhere near as bad as some ships that came from this show (like people who shipped elliot and mr robot) and yet some self righteous people compare the two like it's even remotely the same thing. sorry to mention that people who shipped elliot and mr robot even existed but god I really don't understand why people conflate it with tyrelliot. mr robot is the alter that elliot developed because of his sexual abuse growing up, and tyrell is an evil guy who was in love with him. I wish people would direct their attention elsewhere when there are much worse things being written in this fandom. feel free to not share this btw, it's reasonable to not want to make any posts where people might start arguing about mr robot x elliot. just wanted to share my thoughts. TLDR, tyrelliot shouldn't be argued about as being problematic when there are much worse popular ships in this fandom, and your fics are really good

adding more to my message from before sorry; also don't think that I mean anybody deserves harassment, I'm just saying that when there are actual upsetting and distasteful fics about elliot being abused, you of all people definitely don't deserve harassment under the guise of being upset that you write fic about "Elliot and his abuser" when those fics absolutely exist and you do not write them. anyway have a good night

thanks for your input. im pretty much a live and let live sort of person with this, since the internet makes it pretty easy to just block out anything you dont want to see, and i wish other people did the same. i honestly dont think tyrelliot is bad like... AT ALL LMFAO. but i guess some people do, which is fine. i just dont see the point in messaging me about it numerous times a week for over a month lol. thats just so weird and corny to me

but yeah like in the end my issue with this whole thing is that separating ships into morally and objectively "good" vs "bad" leads to this atomization of intent and characterization where 1) the definition of what is "bad" becomes a slippery slope where anything can become "problematic" and 2) it promotes and uplifts pairings or situations where everything is perfect and conflict doesnt exist-- the antithesis of good/interesting writing. like i have literally no interest whatsoever in "good representation" or "wholesome ships" because thats frankly not what i watch tv or read books for lol. it will never be my thing. also i am just SO FUCKING BORED of rating art based off of whether it lives up to someones (very subjective!) ideas of morality. like can we PLEASEEEEE talk about something else

also, i know what that person is trying to do when they call me a proshipper. everybody knows that that word is synonymous with being a pedo these days lmfao, given that thats central to the idea of pro vs anti shipping (besides incest). i think its pretty wild to insinuate im like... aligned with pedophiles in any way given that if you read my fics you would know i have a whole chapter dedicated to tyrell and elliot MURDERING A PEDOPHILE lol.

i could go on and on about how this very lazy way of thinking thats currently dominating fanspaces is the result of neoliberal identity politics, or consumption as morals, or the capitalist drive to increase both social division and profit by making people identify with brands, groups, or media properties. i wont be an annoying marxist rn and get into all that, but ill say im pretty much in agreement with john paul brammer here:

[goretoberisallyearlong]

Okay, so this is...round 3? Of me attempting to make a pinned post for this blog. It's. really hard. I want to make something that perfectly encapsulates what to expect on my blog, so...well, pretty much entirely so I hopefully diffuse any difficult situations before they happen.

But I'm tired.

And we're doing this;

Hey! o/ Welcome to my blog! You can call me Tobi.

For a quick TLDR;

I am a she/her adult

I do not tolerate any kind of bigotry

This blog is firmly anti-censorship, and highkey shippy and dark.

The blog name is not ironic. There is, guaranteed, at least 1 picture of that nature if you go poking around, so do so at your own risk.

There will likely be other kinds of inappropriate posts, and I'd frankly prefer you err on the side of caution rather than get mad at me for posting.

Detailed stuff under the cut;

I am 21+

My pronouns are she/her, I identify as a girl. Please do not refer to me as "ma'am", "miss", "lady", nor with "they/them" or "he/him". Also, please do not use pet names with me, I do not like them. (hon, sweetie, girlie, etc.) (For anyone who feels like being cheeky, this is all simply a matter of preference. And for anyone who does it out of habit or unsuredness or anything like that, I won't hold it against you! Accidents happen, we're all human, and if you're not interacting with me very much, I do not expect you to have this memorized.)

I am aromantic, aegosexual (experiences sexual attraction but only towards situations where I'm not involved) + fictosexual (only experiences sexual attraction towards fictional characters). To further explain; I'm only attracted to fiction characters, but I do not wish to date or fuck them myself. (I like using other characters for that.) (I do completely support selfshippers/other fictos that do have F/Os, however!!)

I am a multishipper, with a huge love for horror, angst, hurt/comfort, whump, other kinds of dark content, villains, tragic backstories, and redemption arcs. I love to write and draw, and initially made this blog for...well, gore drawings primarily, but it's kind of not panning out that way due to my currently limited ability to draw. Still; if anyone needs/wants something blacklisted and that I haven't yet done, please feel free to ask! (Politely.)

I also love other kinds of more lighthearted content, and I think if anyone's going to mistakenly wander onto this blog thinking my username's intentionally ironic, it's probably for future posts of this nature.

I go in and out of hyperfixations like an absolute bitch, so right now this is primarily a Genshin Impact-focused blog. I might switch the focus later, or it might get really quiet in here, it kind of remains to be seen. But I currently should be in this hyperfixation for quite a while longer.

The purposes of this blog is for me to post whatever the heck I feel like posting whenever the heck I want, so no I will not be taking any "why post x when you can post y?"-type asks, and I will only tag and label things, not remove them. If you send me this kind of thing, you will be blocked.

If anything here is a deal breaker for you, do feel free to block me! I will not come after you or ask why or make passive aggressive vague posts or anything like that.

Things this blog will NOT tolerate and WILL get you blocked immediately if I see it;

Any kind of exclusionist behavior (homophobia, aphobia, biphobia, panphobia, transphobia, etc)

Sexism, regardless of towards men or women

Ableism, any hate towards any mental illness at all

Any calls to harassment or attempts to incite harassment/drama

Ship hate of any kind + Character bashing of any kind

Blatant refusal to curate your own experience, and/or deliberately going into tags you KNOW stress you out and getting mad that the content exists

Threatening violence, rape, or murder against real people, or slinging allegations at people over fiction.

I will not be getting on people's cases for their fictional preferences, (ie if you don't want my fav character/ship or a trope I like or whatever being brought up in your ask box, I will not be upset about that), however.

-> Other Noteworthy Stuff

Basically any time I get really into writing a character, I tend to append a tragic backstory to them (if canon doesn't provide one), and they can wind up a much, much more softened/sympathetic version of themselves compared to canon. This...isn't fully intentional, it just keeps happening.

At some point, I'll probably add a specific tag to blacklist so if anyone doesn't want to see my versions of this or that character, they can just...avoid it like the plague-- If I do make that tag, it'll go here!

Feel free to send me asks about...basically anything! But do be prepared for an infodump if I feel strongly enough about something. (I'll try to keep the infodumping to positive things, however!)

I do take prompts, but not full-blown requests; bear in mind, any prompts are fully subject to my specific characterizations!

Keep in mind; we like canon here. We are hyperfixating on canon because we like and enjoy it. Lots and lots of AUs and seemingly completely off characterizations are kind of my MO, but they are being done respectfully and with love, not out of spite for canon. There may occasionally be some ignorance towards canon involved but please allow me to figure that out myself, or mention it kindly if desired.

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