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anti-endo-safe-space · 25 days

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If endos were real, their experiences would be entirely separate from our community's and would most likely require separate terms in many ways. As well as the fact that we are...trauma survivors. Getting told your experiences aren't real sucks for anyone, but when you add on the layer of trauma especially with how all trauma has struggles with denial but especially in CDDs, you'd think endos would acknowledge that yeah, our needs might be a bit more important.

If endos were real, their experiences would be NOTHING like ours. So their insistence on sharing a space, sharing terms, being accepted by us trauma survivors (which can often warp a lot of things and obvs make us all sensitive to many things), and we must sacrifice our boundaries to accept them. We MUST share with them. We MUST accept them. Us even putting "endos dni" regardless of our stance is equivalent to terrible things to them. And then have the audacity to call us bigots, traumascum, and sysmeds.

For...wanting a space for us and our experiences. Especially when a lot of people don't even believe in our trauma or disorders. When many professionals don't even believe in us. You'd think if endos actually cared, they would put us forth and also try to support us instead of ignoring boundaries, being angry that we want a separate space, and being upset. (All under the hypothetical that endogenics are a real concept and do exist.)

But no. Instead they insist on encroaching on our space, using the same terms, spreading misinformation, playing the victim, and guilting and manipulating to be accepted (which says a lot of they claim to be a minority since...that's not how minorities fight for acceptance. At all. It's not about guilt or using terms like "sysmed" to shame people.)

If they were real, you'd think they would be able to understand the importance of trauma survivor spaces. Our system also has NPD and ASPD and yeah, being pushed out of trauma spaces because of stuff like "narcissist abuse" and all sucks so yes, having limited trauma spaces for CDDs also sucks as endos take it over. Trauma spaces are important and yet they want to take over ours, mimic our experiences, use all the same words. They'll say they do no harm, but they do. When CDDs already have so little thanks to endos in the past and the harm that Empowered Multiplicity did to purposefully make it harder for us. For endos to claim our experiences, claim they're similar, claim to be able to use our terms, and to place their own experiences above ours is fucking insulting. Especially for the endos that say they have trauma too. Then you should KNOW how important spaces like this are. If endos were real, we should NOT have shared spaces because the experiences will NEVER be the same.

Endos, even if real, will never face the same kinds of things we do. They will NEVER know what it's like to have an experienced formed from trauma and have it be entirely fucking denied.

Would love (sarcastically) to see if they tried this shit with other disorders. I'm sure some have, but if it were as big as endos vs CDDs are, that would really fucking show everything and how fucking disgusting endos can be.

(again when I mention endos being real, purely a hypothetical "what if" thing to show how their intense desire to share space and be accepted by us traumagenics is completely fucking harmful and ableist all the same. trauma survivor spaces especially for specific disorders are so important. yet instead they want to prioritize their own so much that people have to literally say "this is not for you endos" when talking about their shit.)

Going paragraph by paragraph because we figured might be easier to do lol.

You'd think that. I know we hope that IF they did exist they'd understand that. Trauma survivors get told so often that if it wasn't "bad enough" (any trauma is enough and shouldn't happen) that more and more doubt if they're real and valid and it's horrible. Endos we've seen only make it worse by goingi "oh yeah that ain't bad enough your just one of us uwu"

They'd be absolutely nothing like ours. If they did somehow exist, they'd have no need for a persecutor or a protector or a trauma holder. They'd have no need for alters who literally HAVE to try and keep everyone safe from trauma. They seem to be convinced that if your anti endo you want them dead. That's not true. I know we just hope they can get help because if they do believe that there is other people WITHOUT any sort of trauma then they need to get help because that's a different disorder. The worst thing we've found about traumascum and sysmed is they're taking words used for transmedicalists and are using it as if systems aren't a mental disorder

They're the type to believe that if you don't want them in your space, then your horrible. That if you decide you want a place away from them then your evil. Like if you said "hey we don't hate endos, they've just caused us pain before so can endos not interact" they take that as you bringing harassment. If endos were real and cared, they'd be willing to try and help us, not make it worse

We actually once saw an endo trying to justify needing a protector because they "needed to be protected from sysmeds". Like no. If your so desperate to be a part of us, make your own terms. Don't take ours and use our space. Minorities will fight for equality yes, but not by shaming people like that or trying to manipulate everyone.

We get that. We highly suspect some of us having NPD. And the amount of anti-endo spaces we've seen that absolutely ban anyone with NPD from interacting is huge. We will reiterate this from previous posts, narcissistic abuse DOES NOT EXIST. A disorder is not abusive! People are! With endos trying to take over the few spaces that aren't like that, they're trying to take more and more away from people who need the spaces for their disorders. It's why yes, we believe racism can be for any race but white people shouldn't be in BIPOC spaces talking about how bad they have it because it will NEVER be the same. They are two compltely different things. (we know we brought in two completely different subjects but it's one of the best views we can think of rn)

If endos exist, they will never understand what it's like to have different alters be something like violent because of trauma they had. They don't know what it's actually like and never will

We have seen some try to compare it with disorders and we found a good one. Take PTSD. A literal TRAUMATIC disorder. If someone went "oh yeah I don't have trauma but I have PTSD" people would be PISSED. They'd be up in arms. Even when it originally wasn't considered just a simply traumatic disorder (used to be shell-shock). What's the difference there? Because one says trauma in the name? Dissociative disorders come from trauma, not just CDD's.

We fully get that and we wanted to say thank you for clarifying (and we're sorry if we came across rude in the last ask you sent, we struggle imensly with social cues).

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a-clucking-system · 2 months

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its really funny seeing endos and endo supporters saying "youre hurting trauma survivors by being anti endo!"

yeah? im hurting trauma survivors? you mean, the people that claim to not have trauma?

be ASTRONOMICALLY real with yourself

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system-of-a-feather · 1 year

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We are going to finally go and try to chart out / document our system / known parts for our old/current therapist and since we make a lot of organized sheets and stuff for fun I'm sharing a copy of a template for alter information ^^ Feel free to use / make a copy and use on your own and modify and all.

Its BASK + Extra stuff that we find relevant to our system

#alter: riku #actuallydid #dissociative identity disorder #did #osdd #did osdd #system #plural #actuallyosdd #cdd #endos and all can use this if this helps them cause honestly I dont really care #tulpas fuck off though #Still firm on that <3 #willogenic or whatever you are good to use just people who use the term tulpa ^^#not anti or pro endo #just pro 'hey i made a resource thats not in limited quantity and would rather people use things that help them than promote discourse'#aka mysterious third thing

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cloverstarsys · 10 months

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yeah

#i made this #credit is appreciated if you use but not needed #🌸pastel chats #endo system #endogenic #endogenic system #pro endo #endo sys #pro willogenic #plural things #pluralgang #plural pride #plural stuff #plural system #plural community #actually plural

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sirenium · 10 months

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The fact that there are people older than me who are exclusionists is so embarrassing. Let that sink in: there are people who are older than me, an eighteen year old, having temper tantrums online about somebody else's existence. 💀💀💀

#whole ass adults lmfao #exclusionists get a life challenge #do something other than screaming and crying about some random endogenic system💀#anti exclusionist #fuck sysmeds #yes this post applies to mspec les/gay exclus too #sysblr #mspec lesbian #mspec gay #*insert other contradictory labels here*#etc etc you get the point #endogenic safe #tulpa safe #willogenic safe

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endotxt · 2 months

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LIVE FOOTAGE OF FRONT RN. OOPS ALL GENSHIN FICTIVES!!!!!!

#honorable mention to the one genshin OCtive in the corner love u Maya MWAHH /p #'i thought you couldnt tell who's in front' this is a low number for us Ira is here too and did the intuition thing again #endo sys #endo friendly #endo safe #endogenic #multiplicity #pro endo #willogenic #actually plural #plural community #plural system #pluralgang #pro endogenic

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dutch-oven-cowboy · 8 months

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hey to all analog horror plural folks

the series Greylock does focus on tulpas/thoughforms (they are called both in the series) and they are characterized as being evil

while they aren’t referenced in a plurality/system way. they are referred as “beings that your mind can create and bring to life”

stay safe out there

(oh it also sucks for those who have intrusive thoughts, like calling them your true self)

#whatever you stance is on tulpas i hope that we can all agree that this is pretty bad #plurality #actually plural #tulpamancy #tulpa #system #systems #plural stuff #plural community #plural system #thoughtforms #willogenic #bad plural rep

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headmate-ideas · 7 days

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LAPIS LAZULI BASED ALTER PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE

💎 HEADMATE TEMPLATE 🌟

✦ Name(s): Lazuli, Mycona, Alys ✦ Pronouns: she/her, it/its, shx/hxr/hxrs/hxrself, ze/hir/hirs/hirself, gem/gems/gemself, star/stars/starself, xe/xer/xers/xerself ✦ Species: gem alien ✦ Age: ~100 (gem equivalent of late 20s/early 30s) ✦ Role(s): communicator, protector, spiritual headmate (optional) ✦ Labels: lunarian, agender, trixic lesbian, asexual ✦ Xenos: mushrooms, gems, space ✦ Interests/likes: learning, art, journaling ✦ Dislikes: water ✦ Music taste: ambient, synthwave, dreampunk ✦ Aesthetic(s): indicolite, naturecore, dreamcore ✦ Objectum attraction(s): gems ✦ Kins: space, birds, foxes ✦ Emoji proxy: 💎🌟 ✦ Details:

Lazuli is a humanoid with dark blue skin and golden freckles, like the colors of a lapis lazuli gemstone. She comes from a species of gem-based life forms who live in caverns underground on the planet orbiting Beta Cancri and who harvest and who eat bioluminescent mushrooms. Hxr species' culture assigns spiritual and protective significance to stars, gemstones, and mushrooms, and shx will participate in other spiritual practices of the system if there are any. Lazuli is an excellent communicator, valuing truth and honesty and helping the system express their truth when others are having difficulty doing so. Ze is good at diplomatically but definitively setting boundaries and protecting the system that way. Shx also values knowledge highly and tries to learn about as many topics as possible, especially about history, science, and culture. Shx particularly likes geology and art history. If the system are involved in academia or have a job that involves research, gem will happily participate in it.

[These can be edited and changed as needed, and headmates will almost definitely not turn out EXACTLY as described.]

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analog-transid · 1 month

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Hello, chat! I am attempting to build a headmate up from scratch currently, and have been for quite a bit... anyone got like suggestions for the guy? Pronouns, transids, etc, I suck ass at going from scratch and making things all on my own 🤔

I already sent in a BAH blog req but it may be a little before they respond, so,,,, asking chat for a hand too!

#[[ramble]]#~ anonymous ~#/nf ofc #but it'd be very fun to have all our friends and acquaintances here pitch a hand in this project of mine!#who knows maybe you'll see something you suggested when he's finally formed properly #note he is a code so feel free to work with that for suggestions!#willogenic #endogenic #endo friendly #endo safe

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anti-endo-safe-space · 23 days

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also not endo related i just saw the post from the other asker who wanted to know if there was a way to combat introjects forming after fixating

as a member of a system with 300+ active members, with only about 10 of them actually being brainmade, i can tell you now we feel the same fear. it really does make it hard to allow yourself to latch onto new media, we've been putting off looking at so many things out of fear

there really is no way to stop alters from splitting. trying to actively prevent it and worrying about it too much can cause more stress which will make more alters split, all any of us can do is just accept that stressful things are happening that can cause introjects to appear due to a need for comfort or protection or whatever their role may be

i'm sorry that you're scared, and i hope that these stressful times in your life end soon so that you don't have to worry about new introjects splitting as much :)

-Felinx

Thank you for that Felinx, truly.

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fluideli123 · 3 months

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Idk if tumblr ate my ask but do you think Mikey would be a type of system? Like a willogenic?

I majorly apologize that it has taken me 1 year, 1 month and 23 days to FINALLY respond to this wonderful ask BUT IT IS FINALLY HERE!

For those who don't know what Willogenic is it's a type of plurality where headmates (AKA Willomates) are formed out of choice and isn't a kind of Tulpamancy.

For me personally I don't think Mikey would be plural based on his different personas of Dr. Delicate Touch, Dr. Feelings, or Dr. Positive like some do, since singlets can have personas/facets and not be plural. I think it's important to acknowledge that anyone can be plural just as much as not everyone is, hence why out of all the turtles I believe Mikey would not be canonly plural nor would I write him as plural for those reasons.

HOWEVER! That doesn't mean he can't be plural at all canonly or in fanon! I personally have a WIP where Mikey gets transported into his younger self's body where he and his younger self share the body, trying to get the older Michelangelo back to his proper timeline. I also have another WIP in which--following the truamatic events of the last season, the movie and desperately trying to pull his family together--he splits.

Mikey is very emotionally intelligent and imaginative, but I don't think these would be the cores of what would cause his plurality or that he would become plural on purpose. He sees the struggles Raphael goes through and has researched the community enough to understand he would not willingly choose that responsibility on himself willingly, in my opinion. Why? Mostly because he places the weight of emotional issues upon his own shoulders and to add more, consciously or unconsciously, would something he would turn away from.

#fox speaks #ask #thanks for the ask!#plurality #rottmnt #rise of tmnt #rise mikey #rise of the tmnt #rise michelangelo #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #anon ask #I am SO sorry this took so FUCKING long btw anon #I literally have been seeing his ask for the entirity of the year I hope you no I never forgot you just never had the energy to answer unti #now #willogenic #tulpamancy #endo safe

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ittybittyberryshake · 5 months

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I love that you're here. I love that if I take the time to relax and listen, I can hear you. I love that I'm not alone anymore.

#berryspoke #this one's about you Xay <3 love ya #mixed origin system #mixed origin #tulpa #willogenic #endogenic #tbh I got no fucking clue what he is but it's my little Guy who is very tall an also my big brother

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willonerdygoat · 9 months

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Snafu (dude/thoughtform/paro/willomate/paromate) wanted to specifically say something, so here it is:

It's so funny/weird how recently, since I've started saying more stuff/expressing myself more to other beings, my host has started being afraid of me being cringe or embarrassing, or that I seem fake and she started wanting to limit what I say so that doesn't happen.

Like bro, who cares? (she's literally thinking this sounds fake like it gets ANNOYING /lh) Like I don't really have anything specific to say apart from pointing that fact out, and hopefully posting this "very cringe" post will like, calm her down or something. Ya know, throwing her into the deep pool.

Also being cringe is like my whole thing >:3

#need to stop being awkward about who's typing stuff on posts lol -Tomira (host)#also yeah ahaha i care too much about what other people think especially when you put it like that XD #willogenic #willomancy #parogenic #paromancy #thoughtform #this post might make it seem like a big problem but it's kind of dude trying to convince host that saying that thing won't do any harm lol

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cloverstarsys · 7 months

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I swear if we somehow end up with another rune factory blacksmith fictive--

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sirenium · 10 months

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Hey systems, this is your reminder that your experience with plurality is valid and you don't have to prove yourselves to anybody. :)

#there are systems with DID or some other dissociative disorder that get fakeclaimed #there are traumagenic in general systems that get fakeclaimed #so literally anybody that doesn't fit the mold of plurality that exclus created are in the line of fire #just know that you aren't harming anybody by existing :)#endogenic #endogenic system #endo system #endo safe #pro endo #endo positivity #tulpa safe #quoigenic #willogenic #non disordered system

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faesystem · 11 months

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the thing about the tulpamancy debate that really fucks with me is that not only is the cultural appropriation racist, but the defending it is also fucking racist. passively racist isnt a good way to describe being appropative, but im drunk and it's the best description i have. but they were doing it without maybe ever having heard that hey, fuck that. then, after hearing it, they decided to not just keep doing it, but defend it in the most racist ways possible.

cultural appropriation already fucking sucks and is already racist, but people are actively doing their best to be even more racist on top of being a tulpamancer/supporting it

reminder to not listen to my white ass on topics of cultural appropriation. im not what matters here, im just drunkenly throwing shit out there. if you arent listening to the actual people effected by racism then fuck you.

#mod ? (he/him)#for the record my personal syscourse stance is fuck you. fuck off. i dont care #if youre willogenic or creating headmates cool. dont care. have at it. live your best life #if youre an asshole to people who arent doing shit to hurt anyone fuck off #if youre being racist Fuck. You.#syscourse #its probably ashton fronting but i already but the ? tag there and csnt be fucked to change it #which ashton? well never knoe #alcohol #alcohol tw #might delete later

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