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fandom-rants · 10 months

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What’s your opinion about Tony taking Peter along with him to the airport? Of course he did NOT force him or blackmail him, people are literally making shit up to make Tony look bad (because that’s literally all they have, just words without facts) but just in general what do you think?

The way i see it, this is a good, supposed to be safe mission preparation first mission for him, but people saying he was bad for doing this to peter.

What do you think?

I mean, storyline-wise, it's pretty forced. The MCU high-ups were like, "Spider-Man makes money; let's get him in there!" So. What can you do.

From within, I liked how we were already well past his origin story, and I loved the dynamic between two Nerdy Boys, I thought the thing about Aunt May being young was weird but fine, since I love getting away from tropes and the 'sweet grandma' trope has been beaten to death. I loved Spider-Man as he was written and acted because he was the quintessential silly nerd weirdo who got crazy excited over stuff and nerded out about weaponry and superheroes and everything.

I liked how Tony was explicitly stated to order Peter to stay back and just web them up. I like how both of them were still playing around a little bit; the "Underoos!" thing made it clear Tony wanted Steve to knock it off but never expected a real fight. Even after having Spider-Man take Steve's shield, he still didn't instigate a battle; he just wanted to use Spider-Man as a tool for de-escalation. I was pleasantly surprised, at the time, by Steve being the one to push for a battle, and for his side to end up going WAY too far over and over again, because it proved his imperfections, which I love to see in my superheroes. (I of course abhorred the backtracking in later movies.)

Overall, I thought Tony noticing Peter made sense, since Tony's been leading the Avengers in all but name since the start, no matter what anyone says about Steve, and it makes sense for Tony to be on the lookout for others like himself and the team. It also makes sense that Tony sat on this after learning who Peter was until he found he needed someone to help him get his friends back before the United States government killed them. I wasn't fond of the sudden trip to Germany, but I understood the need for speed and, with the information given about Tony's original plan, I realize he was backed against a wall and making a tough choice.

I loved how, when everything got bad as hell, Tony stopped everything and ran to Peter to order him to stand down and stay out of the fight; I loved how scared he'd been when he'd gotten to Peter's side, because the kid had been in real danger thanks to Steve's team and could have gotten hurt far worse. It is telling to me that Steve was the one to injure Peter, even after learning how young Peter was (there's no way Peter's voice was the voice of an adult, ffs), yet Steve did not ensure Peter was okay. Tony did. Tony was the one to check if the kid was all right and then ensure he stayed out of the increasingly escalating battle.

If the rest of the MCU movies hadn't come out and I hadn't been forced by a bunch of brats on the Internet to endure some of the dumbest bullshit the MCU fandom writes about how sweet angel Steve Rogers did no wrong and evil devil Tony Stark wrought the world asunder, I would actually say that I loved Civil War, for all its faults. Because Steve wanted to be a hero, Tony kept trying to hold everything together, and neither of them did a perfect job but Tony did well and Steve did horribly, and it was about time we got some character depth on Captain America and got to see Tony's merits as a leader, too.

And then. You know. The rest of the movies, and the fandom, and now I want to burn the world to ashes every time someone even mentions MCU Steve Rogers or Civil War to me.

#mcu rant #avengers rant #civil war rant #anti steve rogers #anti fandom #anti fandom stupidity #tl;dr - Spider-Man was done well and his part in the battle was done well #humans are just stupid #long post

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amarriageoftrueminds · 12 days

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I am totally biased but, the side eye by Erskine 😂

To be fair, she did hire Zola- so there's a big chance Erskine saw the red flags.

gunna have to start asking people not to jumpscare me like this

#toAyourQ #olla-kalla #CATFA meta #iirc he was side-eyeing phillips because he was talking shit about steve wasn't he?? 🤔#listen... as godawful as she is...#in the interest of equal-opportunity callouts: erskine is no nice guy™ himself #waits till steve is *alone* to talk to him... but sends in an MP first to make steve knows he's in the trouble...#before offering him a chance to be in the army (or... what? or else?)#but doesn't tell him anything about the life-endangering experiment until it's too late to back out?#picks someone who is alone / friendless / orphan / poor / disabled #we're supposed to think he's jewish in the MCU just because of being a Hydra prisoner + where he lives in Queens...#but.... we're not *actually* ever told that??#and in fact him living and working in Nazi Germany (working FOR Nazis) in 1942 means he probably can't be??#and that's *before* you get into the fact that project rebirth is a eugenics project #he may be 'nice' to Steve (for a given value of 'nice' ...it is all in his own interest; not because he cares about helping Steve)#and recognise Steve's great qualities unlike anyone else before Bucky / his Ma...#but there's more going on with this guy!#woke-washing blinds ppl to the (conveniently ambiguous for a right wing writer to get away with) ...issues #tl;dr: basically there isn't a single person worth knowing in the SSR before steve and the howlies 'join'#antipeggy #antisteggy #cynthia glass #p*ggy meta #mcu critical #steggy is hydra trash party #meta #mcu meta #dat's me

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contradictorypenguin · 3 months

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People always ask, "If you were in the Marvel universe and you were charged with a crime, who would you want defending you, Murdock or Walters?" The answer is obvious, people. You want Jennifer Walters.

It's not necessarily because she's a better lawyer - yes, of course she's a great lawyer, but so is Murdock, and they're pretty evenly matched. No, it's a narrative thing and a tonal thing.

Murdock has a savior complex and a metric tonne of Catholic Guilt. Brooding and self-blame are his favorite pastimes. I don't feel good about my odds if I was in a Daredevil comic. I'm a wholesome, innocent, young disabled lesbian. If I was in legal trouble and I went to Nelson & Murdock for help, he'd feel compassion and be determined to defend me. But either the prosecution would do something sketchy to win the case, extenuating circumstances would stop him from doing his job, or I'd get hurt by Wilson Fisk, and boom, I'm either dead, injured, or in prison. Then Matt will sit on a fire escape while the rain pours down on Hell's Kitchen and gloomily reflect on how an innocent girl is suffering somewhere and it's all his fault. Sure, I'll get name-dropped in the next few issues as Foggy and Karen try to pull him out of his slump, but that's not enough for me. Screw that noise, I don't want to die or go to prison.

But if I was in a She-Hulk comic? I'm golden, baby! I have feminist plot armor! Walters will eventually pull together a masterful defense after a series of comedic mishaps with no long-lasting consequences. If anyone is coming for me, she'll beat the shit out of them, and she'll get me acquitted of all charges. She'll wink at the readers, make some fourth-wall-breaking quips about how great she is, and go out for drinks with her coworkers to celebrate, and I get to walk free - bonus points for the fact that I will probably never show up again in the rest of the run, so I don't need to worry about any supervillains coming after me in the future.

The choice is obvious.

#tl;dr she-hulk comics won't fridge me but daredevil comics might #I love matt murdock as much as the next person but I gotta think about my survival #she hulk #jennifer walters #matt murdock #daredevil #marvel #mcu #she hulk attorney at law

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all-that-jazz-93 · 11 months

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Holy shit dude, Peggy haters on this webbed site have the weirdest fucking takes

I mean honestly, talk about willfully ignoring canon to form your own (wrong) opinions about a character...

#it's mostly the hardcore stucky shippers tbh #like...ship whoever you want #i like stucky just fine as a ship but damn #you're gonna hate on peggy for no fucking reason?#peggy carter #agent carter #captain america #captain america: the first avenger #ca: tfa #like i've literally seen posts saying that peggy was a nazi collaborator #or that she was based on a nazi double agent from the comics and therefore mcu peggy was basically a nazi as well like ?????#i saw one post that claimed steve was indifferent towards her in tfa and i'm just....#i'm sorry did we watch the same movie?#and the poster claimed the reason steve was 'indifferent' was so that marvel could have deniability about steve being in love with a 'nazi'#but ALSO so that real neo-nazis could believe that steve DID love a 'nazi' so that disney could make their money either way #like don't get me wrong disney sucks as a corporation #but i genuinely don't think they put that much thought into their writing of the steve/peggy relationship #tl;dr stucky stans on this hellsite act like fuckin twitter users in the levels of ridiculousness they reach at for their beloved ship #and it's fucking hilarious #also peggy carter supremacy and peggy haters can die mad about it idgaf

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kazanskyy · 9 months

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wait is this referring to Captain America: The Wi ter Soldier because I absolutely LOVE that film to death

it IS indeed!!! my favorite marvel movie, by a long shot. score, pacing, character work, cinematography, and fight choreography combined to make an absolute banger of a film that the mcu never topped again (for me). i will never forgive the ooc retcon insanity they pulled with steve’s character in endgame and i have been known to rant for 10+ minutes straight on just that topic alone

#you simply cannot serve me three straight cap movies where steve’s primary motivating force is getting bucky back alive safe & by his side #and then tell me that actually what he’s really wanted all this time is to go back in time and live there with a woman he kissed one time #nevermind the fact that there was a whole show dedicated to the life she built WITHOUT him #and fuck steve’s friends i guess?#and suddenly being separated from bucky is a bearable thing for him i guess?#ANYway.#tl;dr cap2 is my fave mcu movie and the steve at the end of endgame is a skrull to me #answered asks

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irl-dogboy · 1 year

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i didn't realise how low quality the other one was so i guess it DOES get its own post (kicks gravel) ummmmm i was listening to anatomically correct by custard so like vibes

#selfshipping #yumejoshi #i think that's the term?#i finished reading all the fics in the quill x reader tag on ao3.#that's how down bad i am. its actually so embarrassing #mcu #peter quill #self insert #dogboydraws #the solution to not wanting to put pr*tt on the TL is to draw petey instead :-3 #SHOUTOUT PETER QUILL YOU WOULDVE LOVED CUSTARD

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braisedhoney · 2 years

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is now a good time to start getting into jackesepticeye ego lore

#ney's idle chatter (random textposts)#unironic question i've just been seeing so much of it on my tl lately #is it weird that i'm so into the mcu without jse? i feel like they came hand in hand once but now idk #seems cool

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uhthor · 6 months

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Idk how to feel. I prefer the loki who died in infinity war who DIDN'T hate thor

totally agree! ragnarok/iw loki is one of my favourite characters of all time

i think with the way he developed in season 1 and 2, that if he were faced with thor now he would never hate him. it’s all just a ruse, much like a lot of things loki does, because of his insecurity and his coping mechanism of pushing everyone away.

look how he was with sylvie in the end (minus the incest) - he just wanted her to be okay because he could see she was hurting, much like he had been for so many years of his life.

odin was shitty to loki AND thor, and i think they were both just trying to co-exist with each other while they were hurting and ended up taking things out on each other, which one of the reasons loki “resents” him. but even from ep 1 of loki when he’s watching his life back, we can see how much he loves thor.

i think that s2 loki, someone who admitted he wants his friends back and doesn’t want to be alone, would kill to see thor again and get back all of the time they lost because of what other people’s abuse did to them… and when that day comes i WILL pass away

#liv answers #anonymous #not sure any of this made sense #but tl;dr loki would absolutely want to be with thor again in this timeline #they are brothers #they are meant to come back to each other #god i’m emotional i love them so much #brodinsons #thor odinson #loki laufeyson #anti odin #anti sylki #anti thorki #marvel #mcu

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passwordispassword · 1 year

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More Letul drawings after forever with some minor design updates

#More of a lore update and this is technically just them after update happened #Now instead of a dead blind eye they've got a sick ass mecha eye that can actually take the light beams #tl;dr Letul eye beams too close to the sun and lose their eye along with scarring around the eye now they have sick ass mecha replacement #Letul slowly accumulating more and more facial scars #I think it's silly #Also now their hero design has a sort of domino mask #They've still got the sunglasses because I like them #I just gorgor to draw them #RAAHHH I LOVE DRAWING THEM #Letul #mcu Letul #oc #oc insert #oc art #silly critter #hero oc #superhero oc #superhero in training #superhero in training oc #fandom oc #marvel oc #So conflicted because so many character have the eye burn scar. .. but theirs is fire and Letul's is sunlight soooo it's different trust me #silly alert

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televinita · 1 year

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I did it, the Marvel seal is broken, I have watched one (1) full episode of Loki.

I have some thoughts but they are tied up in the complication of me also needing to explain the 3 nights of hoovering up relevant movie clips on YouTube to admit that as of this week, I am secretly slightly more well informed than my previous post suggests, so I will just leave you with the enthralled realization I had as the credits rolled:

“It’s like if Severance were fun.”

#to watch. not to experience. obviously.#tl;dr I am having a blast and also rethinking my whole approach to the MCU #an absolutely terrifying prospect #what if I start looking for FIC? what if I not only watch a thor movie... or 2... but OTHERS #tom hiddleston spiral #a placeholder tag so I can keep track until I decide on something for this character specifically #p.s. oh you'd better believe the only reason I'm not on episode 2 or 5 already #is because I need to sit with my feelings for 5 hours re: him watching the Saddest Hits Of Your Life

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between-the-pages-ofa-book · 2 years

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MCU: Phase 4:

You get a kid! You get a kid! You get a kid!

#thor: love and thunder #Hawkeye #doctor strange #Clint gets Kate #strange gets peter (nwh) and America (mom)#Thor gets love #AMAZING #spoilers #tl&t spoilers #mcu

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nevermindigotthis · 2 years

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Gorr the God Butcher

#my art #sketch #mcu fanart #mcu #thor love and thunder #Thor #gorr the god butcher #gorr #watched TL&T yesterday it was so cool #Gorr is a good villain #very relatable

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amarriageoftrueminds · 1 year

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Mcu Stan's are some of the most ignorant and annoying people especially tony, Wanda and Peggy Stan's. I never understood how you could get mad at Jewish or romani people for having a problem with the way the mcu handles its characters. Countless Jewish people have pointed ot why peggy is problematic and why Wanda is to but people get so up in arms about it like a billion dollar company dosen't have the resources to research the characters they're writing.

Peggy as a character fustraits me so much because I know her problematic orgions in the mcu and so do the writers but they keep pushing her and it's starting to effect things outside the mcu.

‘Nonny, I couldn't agree more!

They've already retconned the comics-Peggy to match MCU-Peggy/HA, to cover up that they adapted Cynthia-the-Nazi by another name.

(Sorry folks, a turd by any other name still stinks!)

under a cut cuz you know I had to go off:

They've given this new Buff Liz Truss her own run in the comics, where she performs sudden leftwingism by- omg, guys -discovering Colonialism is bad?? Oh wow, so impressive, give her a biscuit!

And they've had her attacking, somehow beating, and victim-blaming comics-Bucky, saying it's 'insane' of him to question her motives.

(Just like She-Hulk lusting over Steve's ass, you can tell it's a nasty dig by male Disney execs at female fans; in this case at those who point out how rotten Peggy is.

Ironically, it's super authoritarian, radfem and totally in-character of Peggy to violently attack anyone who dares to question her majesty, since that's the very first thing she ever did on screen!)

Right before pissing away 80+ years of comics history, showing absolute devotion between Steve and Bucky, to turn comics Bucky into a full blown villain who attacks Steve (y'know, like she did?)

Cutting off comics Bucky's nose to spite MCU Bucky's face, cuz all they really want to do is further de-gay MCU Steve in order to bring his stalker Agent Brexit into the main MCU movies again, (because that's her only value! As an accessory to a man!), while they’re supposed to be raising up a black Cap they transparently Did Not Want. 🤮

And just as it was absolutely unforgivable to take Jewish-penned Antifa Steve and pair him off with a Nazi, (I can't help feeling the Indiana Jones movies might have been an influence, there?)

It was also unforgivable to take Romani Jewish Wanda and turn her into a Nazi.

Her joint Jewishness and Romani heritage were important, too, because they showed the intersectionality of Fascism’s victims, since comics-Magneto (Jewish) met her Romani mother while imprisoned in Auschwitz.

(You could also count MCU Bucky under this whitewashing heading, too, since MCU Bucky is partly based on Jewish comics character Arnie Roth. Another Jew made into a villain to serve Disney's Fascist 'don't say gay' values!

There’s even speculation that they’re going to give WhatIf Bucky Peggy’s shitty corrupt backstory in the next season, and shift the blame off her by having Bucky co-found SHIELDra instead of her. I wouldn’t put it past these whitewashing bastards...)

I can't fault the mere existence of Wanda's villain arc, since that is in the comics...

Except for two things:

1) it was transparently done too soon, just because a male creative wanted to be the one to have Cool Scarlet Witch Stuff in his movie.

(If there had been, say, a second season of WV, detailing her slow post-bereavement descent down a dark-mother path? That would've been more interesting and made MoM more organic, IMO.)

2) The real problem, as someone on twitter I think pointed out, is that if you know about Wanda’s Jewish background in the comics...

Well, the whole film is about an evil red-headed Jewish witch trying to kidnap and hurt a child for magic ritual purposes. 😬

Which, if you know about the history of antisemitism, and that Wanda was originally Jewish, makes MoM ‘Blood Libel: the Movie.’

And it’s not like Disney would give a shit about the antisemitic vibes, if they knew.

They’re about to undo all the good of the Captain Marvel movie by doing Secret Invasion, where evil lizard people are secretly infiltrating the earth (IYKYK).

I saw one Jewish person on twitter pointing out: “Someone was arguing that the skrulls don't deserve their own story because they're evil infiltrators and... this is not comforting to me as a Jewish person, you know? antisemitic conspiracy theorists literally describe Jews as evil lizard people who infiltrate and disguise themselves...”

Captain Marvel repositioned the Skrulls as innocent maligned refugees, but I guess Disney doesn’t give a fuck about standing by that.

Mask off antisemitism for the Rat. 🤢

In terms of Wanda’s show, while WV was a great, well-made show, which I enjoyed, while she was an interesting character in it, and Olsen gave a great performance, what I didn't like were the conservative values.

It reminded me of the anti- second wave feminism films of the 1980s, where any woman who has a career (read: power, like Wanda has) is shown basically being driven insane by it and secretly just wanting to be a tradwife all along, even to the point of threatening her man if he interferes with it.

In Wanda, we have a woman who never mentioned wanting the white-picket-fence life before, suddenly being desperate to give up an icky career to be a stay-at-home-mom in the suburbs, just because of the kind of 'golden age' sitcoms Disney would love to be associated with.

And it's presented as a terrible tragedy that she doesn't get to keep this sheltered 'dream' 1950s nuclear-family life and the slaves sorry, ‘prisoners with jobs’ necessary to maintain it.

The spirit of Kevin Feige’s pathetic self-insert, aka Endgame Skrull Steve, is alive and well.

(As usual, a black woman receives the brunt of the violence, and is then made to comfort Wanda about the 'sacrifice' she has made by giving her hex-slaves sorry, ‘prisoners with jobs', their freedom at the cost of her own comfort. 😯 Holy? SHIT??)

Wanda becoming a villain coincides exactly with her turning from white tradwifism and embracing her (career-related) power.

As usual with Disney tho, they dun fucked up and accidentally made something you can also read as kinda queer?

Like: a couple who can't have biological children of their own together (like queer couples)? Who don't get to have that white-picket-fence life? Getting run out of town for trying to live that fantasy anyway?

And then Wanda breaks bad because she's annoyed about that??

Yeah it's no wonder she has been embraced by the gays as a diva!

And, NGL, seeing her deliver some karmic justice to MAGA Carter was SO SWEET. 😩

(It should've been Bucky tho...)

Tony and Peggy have a lot in common because, no matter what they do, it’s never their fault.

The resemblance to Elon Musk grows stronger every day.

TERF joke, rape joke, the mistreatment of women in the early IM movies, (ditto the slut-shaming he and Pepper engage in), industrial espionage (buying the rights or outright stealing other people’s inventions and passing them off as their own), eulogising a real Nazi (Wernher von Braun) for doing what Stark Industries did, arguing in favour of Ultron (who operated out of a Hydra base) and Hydra’s Project Insight in EG... and then in Spiderman he just re-makes Project Insight anyway (re-named EDITH)!

I thought he was supposed to have stopped being the Merchant of Death?

He calls himself a “genius billionaire playboy philanthropist.”

But a) he just finishes off designs his daddy stole off other people,

b) the value of which created his inherited generational wealth (not impressive sorry bro, what else did he get? an emerald mine?)

c) he obviously mis-characterises his interactions with women (stripper-pole air hostesses under his employ? female journalists get a scoop after sleeping with him? pepper made CEO after dating him but mysteriously immediately dumps him once she’s been empowered? saying ‘I want one’ and being reminded of lawsuits when he ogles Natasha at work? this is giving Weinstein),

and d) what billionaires call ‘philanthropy’ is actually just using charities for tax write-offs, donating to their old alma maters, etc.

Daddy was a basic bitch thief, who dealt in stolen vibranium, knew about TWS, co-founded SHIELDra, had a villain business partner, and was BFFs with a Nazi torturer of POWs, and the woman who- gawd -she just can’t stop working with Nazis, bless 'er!

Tony was blowing up people in the Middle East for decades, making a bundle and very obviously enjoying himself (sipping on champagne while the missiles fly) and only stopped doing that, when- gasp -it affected him personally?

(The villains of IM movies are the ones just: doing what Tony did.)

Despite claiming otherwise, he hung around with black market arms traffickers often enough for Ulysses Klaue to recognise one of his catchphrases and claim “Stark used to say that to me.”

He helped design Project Insight and saw nothing wrong with it (we know he didn’t, because he kept arguing in favour of it / recreating it.)

Even after this, he lied and sneaked around behind the Avengers’ backs to hubristically tamper with alien tech in order to create Ultron, leading directly to the endangerment of the world and further deaths in Sokovia (in another universe, this almost destroyed the entire multiverse).

He co-signed Accords which violated human rights, not affecting him since he’s rich, just to shift future blame and responsibility off himself and make him look dateable to Pepper. He admitted he knew Bucky was a brainwashed “Manchurian Candidate” but tried to murder him (to spite Steve) anyway.

He refused to call Steve back when Thanos was coming, just out of piqued pride (if you wanted to calculate the potential consequences of that, maybe: half of all life in the multiverse?) And when asked to help undo the Snap his ego helped create, he says he “won’t, even” because, hey, it doesn’t affect him personally so who gives a shit, right??

But like a true billionaire none of this ever has any consequences for him!

He only sees the inside of a jail when he’s visiting!

So what with his messianic nuclear-family ending you can see why Disney haven’t felt the need to sabotage his comics incarnation. MCU Tony is right on-message!

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