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Comparing Mario and Miraculous villains because I Can:

You see miraculous has many flaws and I see many of their villains has part of this

Nos I’ll rant and critic the villains while comparing them to each Mario villain I can call of them top of my head

Chloe:alright Chloe is both a pure evil and a comedic villain which doesn’t fit her character,

First of all she was retconned to play games with her friend Sabrina to locking her in her closet, then that her father is a great guy she abuses when there’s a lot of episodes about him being a corrupt leader that abuses he’s employees, power and does not hear the people (which she might have learned from him since the employe we see abuse is Sabrina’s father) and finally her mother not being abusive when she has lines like “the only thing exceptional about you my dear is your mother”, her origin story of her mom leaving and only having Adrien has a friend is too depressing to laugh at after season 1 specially when everyone hates her and is against her at every moment…

Now lord crump and Doopliss: lord crump is like Chloe in the “try’s to be intimidating but fails miserably”, I’ve even seen comments in hes theme sounding like someone trying to be intimidating but failing miserably which fits with he’s obvious disguises, stupid plans, the fact a grandma bug the size of he’s foot roasts the hell out of him, the fact he’s extremely weak and dependent on minions (also the fact he was turned into a iconic parody villain in a YouTube channel called Dr.Pootis which is him actually being capable but having awful plans like stepping on grass and not flushing the toilet which is a hilarious twist) which works since Lord Crump is just a comedic relief to beginning to end even when he becomes a bit of a threat meanwhile Chloe has totally serious moments like her facing the consequences and admitting no one likes her which makes it sad when she returns to punching bag after she becomes evil again, them is Doopliss which is “he’s being abused LAUGH” Chloe is abused by her mother meanwhile Doopliss by Beldam the difference is how Doopliss is a gigantic monstrous jerk that try’s to steal Mario’s life while he turns people into pigs for no other reason than being a jerk! And he’s a grown adult that Can leave at any moment but chooses to stay (possibly to get revenge on Mario) he’s a awful person that chooses this till the shadow queen is defeated and decides to be a actor meanwhile Chloe is a kid that was teach to be like this and is abused by the one who teach her to be like this, she’s too young to be treated like this which gets worse with how she’s also the punching bag villain

Lila:alright she works has a master planner specially in Volpina and Revelations in which she has a pretty great master plan to make herself look good which the viewer can actually believe while she screws up with Gabriel, you can actually see her being a evil master mind… but that’s were that ends because every other time is just the writers making everyone else stupid to eat up her lies and you know what’s worse? One of her lies is that she’s a convulsive liar for a mental problem… and after that they still believe her?! She told them she can’t control her lies yet they still believe her blindly, alya who knows Marinette is ladybug still believes Lila despite her actually figuring out one of Lila’s lies in Ladybuf (sentibug) the writers just make everyone else stupid to make Lila smarter… and here’s were Beldam appears (also the other guy but we’ll get there eventually) Beldam is a the embodiment of “I’m not racist but I’ll be just to spite you” she insults Doopliss with nicknames despite him not hiding it anymore, constantly insults others and is transphobic just to insult her sister (in the credits is implied she got better but just because the shadow queen died and has no other choice) but her scheming actually causes the whole games plot by tricking everyone that “there’s a treasure behind the door” and telling the X-nauts about how “whoever frees the shadow queen has total control over her�� her lies are consistent, while she schemes to get to the museum to steal the Garnet star which she would have succeeded if it wasn’t for the star being a decoy and she also starts the whole game by targeting peach has the one to be kidnapped and tricking her into opening the box containing the Map to the stars, her only stupid moment is that she usually loses stuff like Mario’s portrait to identity him and a FREAKING BOMB but she’s more effective at outsmarting others in a believable way than Lila… ALRIGHT IS TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE PLEASER OF THE MASSES, MASTER OF DIMENSIONS “Dimentio”!!!, if you didn’t notice by the dramatic entrance he’s a big deal, first is obvious he’s evil like Lila but the mistery is on what is he going to do, he gives Mario and the gang a hand while he literally sends them to hell, is theorized he caused he’s sister’s death and wrote the dark pronosticus so count bleck will let him join and don’t get rid of him since he’s necessary (unlike Lila that trusted Gabriel he made himself a important part that can’t be removed) he constantly does random things that don’t seem to have a purpose but he never lets anything that could make the count get rid of him, he saved peach which aided the heroes to face Mimi, he mind controlled O’chunks, he (theorically) killed Mr.L and Mario,Bowser and Peach to make them join and not only fix a pure heart but get another while they are on it and once the count was defeated he shoot’s Nastasia down and steals the chaos heart now that the pure hearts are useless, he plans to delete every dimension but the one he create using the void (which didn’t affect it on the first place) which showcases how he had it all planed from the start, this guy is everything lila wishes she was (because seriously they turned her into a super psycho out of nowhere when she was just a lying child at the beginning, how is she even pulling this off when her face was in all those rings when she’s supposed to have multiple identity’s while only putting a fake hair on?!) dimentio is the master of master minds and a S tier on Mario villains…

Felix:at first he’s just like dimentio but without thinking about he’s cover, he at start is a psycho that sides with hawkmoth for no reason and despite he’s father being death is shown her mother is very supportive and caring while he despised the monster he’s father was, he’s initial motivation is that gabriel and Adrien didn’t go to he’s father’s funeral (inconsistency? Maybe but is shown he and hes mother cared more about the rings than anything else) and goes on like this till he literally steals all the miraculous in a very smart move, then when they go to he’s house her mother just tells the hero he isn’t at home right now… ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! That’s stupid! And even more when he returns and murders all of Paris and starts talking nonsense about being free when all the bad people that controlled them was already killed when he already snapped all of the city!!! Kids got Thanos snapped because he wanted them to dissapear!!! People talk about miracle queen but this is just worse since he’s outright deleting them out of existence!!! He does show humanity and empathy for the sentimonsters but after that I don’t think we can sympathize with him anymore since he sympathized with a killer machine like Strike back but didn’t doubt twice to snap innocent people, and then they “redeem him” out of nowhere and pair him with Kagami which isn’t right since he literally has no one oppressing him because he’s monster of a father is death and her mother literally covered he’s back on super heroes!!! I know he’s a child but take he’s miraculous and send him to a mental asylum! Him and Chloe literally pulled the same stunt except Chloe at least has the excuse of being manipulated by hawkmoth, give this guy some medical health. Alright at first he seems like a dimentio wannabe which does everything right but covering he’s steeps since literally made everyone in Paris he’s enemy because he didn’t think of the long term consequences. This kid needs to get medical health and duusuu needs to get away from him for the health of both and everyone around him, there’s no other villain I can compare in paper Mario other than Mimi which is also a monster outside but cares about her home and has a past shrouded in mistery but is heavily implied since the beginning that she has a soft side and she actually turns good after the counts death because thats what he would have wanted, Felix is just such a despicable character that I can see redeem but not see him in the path they gave him for how sudden it was

Tomoe tsurugi:alright I’m gonna be honest… she’s not much, she’s kinda empty, she lacks any kind of development or reason other than being the best and she serves more like Gabriel’s pawn that helps him in he’s goal but ultimately gets nothing out of it since probably Gabriel lied to her, she cares about kagami but there’s not much after… the only character I would compare her to in a level would be… heck I don’t know “O’chunk”? Is just that she doesn’t have much going on for her and I can only compare her need for battle but she lacks depth or screen time or motivation, O’chunks has lots of screen time and shows he’s not only loyal but also is a genuinely good guy that wants to make new worlds without betrayal or war since he was a general that was betrayed and sold out by he’s partners and once he loses too many times he not only thinks he won’t be able to show he’s face to the count again but asks bowser to finish him off and even saves he’s life from a trap afterwards because he respects bowser and won’t let him die like this and bowser aids him back (then they are a saved) and he goes on with the counts mission to make the world better (I just wanted to talk about the Big O’chunks)

Akumas and amoks:alright I’m kinda cheating because they are technically characters but there’s a problem which is “over saturation” and “missing the point” before the Akumas seemed like this mirror to the dark side of the person and that by obvious story telling the mind of the story made this monsters and Gabriel had nothing to do with the design… but then villains like gigantitan (which is just gorizilla but worse) and treating this like jokes (Mr Pigeon 72) kinda took the charm out of it, before no matter how ridiculous a Akuma was it was taken seriously to some degree and was a direct manifestation of the persons insecurity’s and wishes… but now they are plot devices like power ups with lots of model recycles which I can understand… till things like sole crusher in season 5 happen! First she’s Chloe akumatization and not Zoe’s which doesn’t make any sense since that akuma was to present Zoe’s soul being crushed into being like Lila, then she’s a literal tool for Gabriel and just a giant bait and three she’s literally used has a tool to knock down monarch by the class… a akuma beat by a bunch of kids!!! Then is how they just keep using Akumas over and over instead of introducing other villains so that Ladybug and Cat noir have to change their “get the infected item and save the day” ,this was attempted with amoks but they literally have the same purpose of Akumas when the amok traps the user inside of it and even nerf it, heck there’s even Akumas that turn their host into monsters that could perfectly pass has sentimonsters and Can we just talk about how Akumas can infect animals and objects like the ship of captain hard rock or fang (jagged’a pet) they don’t seem that useful at first, but you know who isn’t overused, is a mirror of a character and is actually consistent… MR.L has the name implies he’s Luigi turned into a masked villain who goes by the name of Mr.L, he’s all of Luigi’s jealousy,hatred,rage and everything he wishes to be (sure of himself,brave and cocky) into a fabulous villain that goes all out in this department and even then he’s plot important since he’s the reason Luigi is the perfect host for the chaos heart (a heart with all that rage Can fit so much chaos in it) he even roasts the heroes which is basically Luigi going all out and even after all some of that care for he’s brother still shows by having a giant robot called “brobot” he still thinks about he’s brother. He’s a perfect mirror of the darkness of Luigi and a perfect “evil side” for characters like Luigi

Nathalie:yes she’s here (I’ll explain myself in a bit) and yes HE’s next alright in season 1 she seemed to not care about Adrien, in season 2-3 she’s Gabriel’s number 1 fan and will do anything for him (a bit cheesy how it was done but works pretty well) in season 4-5 she slowly gets tired of Gabriel’s stupidity and renounced to help him while she now shows a great care for Adrien which is sweet but kinda inconsistent by how she was in season 1-3 (she did showcase surprise when she discovered he was cat noir but that ain’t stopping her from telling Gabriel) she’s a character that had lots of potential but ultimately failed because they failed at transitioning her care for both of the agreste properly (specially how she was in charge of giving Adrien gifts and always gave him pens till she stole Marinette’s gift because she forgot to bought him something that year… yes she cares so much about Adrien!). Then there’s the characters that did “breaks from a abusive relationship” and “lovesick for someone that is grieving too hard”. First is Vivian, she’s usually kicked around and blamed of everything by her sister beldam, but then when she’s tasked to find the bomb Beldam lost (which blamed Vivian) but Mario helps her and gives him a kiss in return (Since the beginning shes showcased has the most “miserable” of the three and don’t seem half bad, meanwhile Nathalie’s love and later care for Adrien come out of nowhere) then she helps Mario (not knowing he’s Mario) to regain he’s identity, once she discovers the true she leaves him to fight Doopliss and he’s partners but she quickly returns telling him he treated her better than Her sisters ever did (her change makes sense and her care for Mario is built through the chapter by the two going una adventure unlike Nathalie sudden care for Adrien) has you can see Nathalie is very sudden like the writers just improvised meanwhile Vivian character was planned since the beginning. Then there’s Nastasia (they even have similar names!!) is implied she was saved by the count of “something” in a history of a man saving a bat from a trap that turned into a woman (referencing the tale of the men and the mice) so her love makes sense unlike Gabriel’s which… what does she see in him seriously?!, in the history nastasia hyponitizes bowser’s minions (and Luigi) to aid the count to stop Mario from getting the pure hearts, but she’s showcased to not only know the counts plan but also try’s to make him stop but despite the count blessing her to leave she stays, later she shows to talk how if she was in “her place” things would have been different (talking about Timpani which could be compared to Emily except we know Timpani and get to care about her and see her grow and develop) once she discovers Timpani might still be alive she begs bleck to stop since he knows that she might still be alive and how he will do it for her but he refuses thinking that’s only a fake hope, she jumps into dimentio’s attack to protect bleck and is knocked out, when she wakes up and discovers what the count did she starts crying breaking that cold hearted person she showcased during the whole game, later she follows her mission to make a better world for the count and talks how “she might learn to love again, but she will never measured up to timpani anyway” she’s extremely tragic, she’s everything Nathalie isn’t “aware of her actions” “has a reason to love him” and “consistent” is like if they kept the love sick Nathalie and only expanded on it

Alright here we are, is time to talk about…

Gabriel agreste:there’s not only two but FOUR (could add a fifth) Mario villains that mirror he’s core aspects and flaws. First is the obvious but like I’ve said before we’ll talk about him later, so let’s focus on two villains that have shin for their absence

Bowser and king boo, you might be asking “what does this have in common?” Well Bowser is a great father and no matter how many stupid plots or dangerous plans he makes he’s son is always safe except when bowser isn’t the one in control (fury bowser being a good example since Black paint which actually debuted on color splash when possessed bowser for the first time he drained the color out of peach and put her in he’s wall which is extremely out of character since bowser never hurt peach) bowser is a character that constantly shows love,care and would do anything for he’s son despite him being cranky or sometime screaming at him like a beast at moments, at the end he wants the best for he’s son showcased how he tells kamek and the koopalings to take care of him and how he isn’t a bad kid but just misguided, bowser is one of the best videogame villain fathers (but is not like there’s a competition) meanwhile Gabriel is supposed to be a “not care about being there but him being safe” but episodes like Cat blanc literally destroy this entire character… what I mean is that bowser is consistent on how much he cares about he’s son, and then king boo is the “defeating you is now my life mission” they put in Gabriel in season 5 when he suddenly decided to defeat ladybug was more important than Saving emilie, meanwhile king boo started hating Mario for invading he’s haunted houses but started hating more Luigi for defeating him and trapping he’s army. King boo and Luigi’s hatred is personal, king boo is the biggest manifestation of Luigi’s biggest fear “ghost” by being the king of the stereotypical ghost of the series meanwhile king boo seems to hate Luigi more and more with each game, first used Luigi has a trick to get Mario first but later kidnapped Mario to mess with Luigi which was messing with he’s world domination plan, but in the last game it’s all about king boo hatred for Luigi, he hates him so much he developed facial muscles just to frown at Luigi, he hates Luigi so much he’s whole plan is ruined because he wanted to catch Luigi by himself while chasing him for the fun, King boo learned to hate Luigi and feels natural since king boo not only started hating the red plumber and not fearing Luigi but the artifact the green plumber has, to only seeing Mario has a way to torture Luigi while he puts himself on risk of getting trapped in a painting with Luigi by getting the entire hotel in a paining just to get that plumber, King boo was purely about Vengeance and the Vengeance only changed target to some that has more reason to hate on, meanwhile Gabriel’s plan was always about saving Emily but then changed into “conquering the world” and then changing into “winning” none of this is compatible with each other thanks to the character they first showcased. Fawful is the heartless monster they try to make him, Fawful doesn’t have a real reason to be evil since he didn’t care that much for Cackletta since he was planning to betray her using the Fawful robots, he has no other motivation than being a monste, when he dances is charismatic since is to feed he’s massive ego meanwhile when Gabriel does it is stupid since there’s no reason for him to sing and dance alone on he’s mansion, Fawful plans are convoluted but in a fun way since he made bowser swallow peach, conquer he’s castle to trick him to face Midbuss while he makes a show about himself so he can make bowser get fat and break the floor so Fawful pulls out peach from bowser’s… you know what to kidnap her to go back to peach’s castle which he conquered to get the dark star and finally conquer the world using its power while not having to face the Mario bros a single time till the end when he underestimated bowser and ends up fused with the dark star core inside Dark bowser, all of that is convoluted but extremely fun since it makes the characters go in a journey and ultimately works meanwhile Gabriel has to make extremely convoluted plans which never work. Blumier, is literally Gabriel done right, look it up

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