not to keep harping on but definitely the complaint i see that really sticks in my craw is that the only reason or the main reason robb planned to banish catelyn to seaguard was because of their argument over jon. it’s certainly a factor but they have spent the entire war arguing over every decision robb makes! ned tells robb “keep your mother in your council” but robb really does not! he has her there, yes, he lets her speak, yes, but oftentimes he will disregard her advice without any appeasement, misstep badly, and be worse off politically in the exact way she warned him of. she’s not the only person he blows off - he’s not exactly nice to edmure either, for example - but cat is right when she suspects there’s an element of “kings are not supposed to have mothers” and “wedded to his war" and she clocks this long before the argument over jon! robb tries to get rid of her at the beginning of a clash of kings when all cat has done is urge him to continue peaceful negotiations with the lannisters!
robb is angry because he’s in over his head and he knows it, and it's got very little to do with jon! robb is losing this war and his best friend was the son of a man who crowned himself and lost the war!! robb knows exactly what’s going to happen to the north if he loses and despite everything, he cannot seem to win despite being a near prodigy in battle tactics. and here his mother has been this whole time, fighting him on every front - just like the lords but he cant punish them for disagreeing can he? - and being so frustratingly right about more things than his lords, and now they’re picking at this wound in their family that has never been allowed to heal and a lot of resentment that both robb and catelyn are feeling at their general situation gets focused in on each other. this is such a tully thing too (pls remember these are canonically unpleasant people!) because look at lysa projecting years of resentment onto sansa, look at the entire cat, hoster, edmure situation, or even hoster & blackfish’s relationship. family is so important to them but in times of stress, “doing everything for family” becomes an anchor pulling them down, until the only thing left is to lash out at each other.
most of the lords are happy to let this nonsense play out! catelyn does not even have the privilege maege & dacey mormont do at being head of their own house - she’s just a wife, just a mother, just a first born daughter. when she disagrees, they don’t see an equal arguing with them, they see a woman sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. they do not give a single solitary shit about like, ~the plight of bastards~ they just believe, like robb, that sansa is currently “tainted” by her marriage to a lannister and can’t be allowed to inherit, that arya is dead, that the boys are dead, that jeyne is not yet pregnant, and a bastard boy castle raised who looks like ned is better than no boy at all (see edric storm, addam of hull, and larence snow). these men have not spent the last fourteen years cooking in their resentment over this situation the way catelyn and robb have!
jon is a reason. but so is rickard karstark, jaime lannister, willem lannister, tion frey, renly baratheon, walder frey, and theon greyjoy. ned is a reason as well, and bran, sansa, rickon, arya, hoster, edmure, perhaps even lysa and sweetrobin. jon is the final straw but robb isn’t (only) sending catelyn away because of some righteous fury on his brother’s behalf! he’s sending her away because she is an easy, socially acceptable target for all his frustrations and failures and fears that he can project on, and punish, in a way he cannot punish his enemies, his lords, or himself.
and catelyn is as always very aware of the deeper motivations in her son’s mind, and resentful that she doesn’t have the power to push back; she’s just a mother, after all.
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your future jon design makes me think of cats and how they make holes in cardboard boxes with their fangs
here's an example: https://youtu.be/w36rJdcUk3Y
whoops my hand slipped
everyday i make future!jon a little more cat-like, as one does.
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For the doodle thing... Scarecrow with a cat if you don't mind :]
Two meow meows for you (jon loves black cats)
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okay- so- i know that a lot of people really love Melanie and in a lot of ways i do too! but oh my god it makes me so sad when she blames jon for every single problem thats happening :( like he don’t know whats going on either :((((
(this could also be because i am a jon apologist but listen hes my favorite and oh my god he just needs some sleep this poor man)
((s4))
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thinking about how cat values herself so little she would die or ruin herself or give up something she loved or literally anything for scott in a heartbeat. for almost anyone that she grows to value or care about. because she sees herself as so easily replaceable. if she’s gone, that’s fine. maybe someone will be sad for a bit, but they’ll move on. there will be someone else to take her spot...
but other people are desired, needed, loved... and scott is all of those and more. some others that she grows to care about... the things she would do... both to herself and even to others to protect them... very unhealthy. and getting cat to believe or feel she has value in any capacity is extremely difficult. even if she says “ok, thank you” and pretends like she believes someone who tries to tell her otherwise... she most likely isn’t being honest.
she never truly is able to grasp the idea of being wanted, needed, or loved. even when she marries scott, has kids, all of that. she looks at him frequently and wonders if he regrets it and is just pretending. a part of her deep down knows the truth, and it keeps her from doing anything too brash or stupid...
but the other part of her will always rip herself down.
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I'm mid season 3 of TMA and I don't want to dig in the tag too much till I've finished it but I NEED to yell about how CUTE the scene with The Admiral is and just. The softness in Jon's voice and the accidental bumping of his bad hand and the PURRING. OUGH it's so good it's so cute I need MORE
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