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The existence of the Ox miraculous is such an unnecessary ugly detail when you think about Ladynoir and how Chat Noir served as the punching bag and scapegoat for Ladybug, Alya as Marinette's actual partner in season 4, and the whole team in every single way pre-s5
The Ox gives the power of immunity even against any other Miraculous power. One would think with Adrichat's self-harming tendencies that canon had Marinette make entirely about herself because "they're haunting her so much", and her still narratively entirely unchallenged tendency of leaving Chat Noir behind on the battle field as sacrifice or bait to possibly have whatever the hell done to him so she can be save and sound while she and everyone else can look and be cool on his expense
With all that, one would have thought that if Canon Marinette truly loved Chat Noir "sooooooo much" and is oh so haunted by his self-harming behavior and him always getting hurt so she sidelined him "for his own good"
Then how come at no point did Marinette do the actually caring thing by giving Chat Noir the Ox miraculous since he's ALWAYS left behind BY HER so she can leave the battle field and execute her plans with the others save and soundly? If her Chaton's well-being was oh so important to her and it always "pained her so much" to see him getting hurt then why was the Ox only used 2 insignificant times by Ivan at the end of season 4 when it could have saved Chat Noir ALOT of suffering all the way through?
Or the turtle. Or ANY OTHER Miraculous for that matter?
Why was Alya getting two miraculous in Hack-San perfectly fine with Marinette but heaven forbid Marinette is actually expected to ACT like she gives a damn about Chat Noir's well-being as his leader, guardian, partner, and friend and not just the show having her claim superficial words that hardly have anything to back them up once they actually have to mean something?
Its almost as if Canon inherently doubled down on having Marinette be the kind of leader who will only do things in a way that primarily benefit HER while everything else gets swept under the rug because she isn't maliciously intentioned and then never brought up again. And unfortunately it was her who was written to prioritize making an unnecessary team of 18 miraculous holders no one ever asked of her to form (Su-Han even told her NOT to give out the miraculous like candy),
so Marinette was just made to not consider Chat Noir either at all or simply not as worthy enough of any kind of consideration in her entire leadership/ guardianship or actual safety, support, or ANY KIND of resource since that wouldn't be narratively about her, now would it?
She can't have Chat have the Ox because she might need Ivan as Ox in 4 months and she doesn't want to have to ask Chat to get it back or end up NOT getting to use this ONE other Miraculous out of a whole ass box, because that would involve a basic ass conversation Marinette can't have apparently or her not getting to use all of the miraculous however she pleases at any given point
The horror. Now she would have only 14 miraculous to work with!
As per usual, count me fucking unimpressed by Marinette's writing. The negligence towards Chat Noir on even the most basic level is insane and she was declared the epitome of leadership and kindness for this.
Cool that Marinette already decided in her head that Ivan is suitable for the Ox miraculous and he should get it in future, but Chat Noir needing help and protection wasn't some theoretical case, it constantly happened right in front of her eyes and even by her own freaking orders too because she never thinks of him in ANYTHING and the show glorified the hell out of her as leader for doing all that
Why is looking into ANY detail only making Marinette's side of Ladynoir so much worse ever since season 4? There is no escaping this! Just don't add the Ox with this power or actually have Marinette be a good leader towards Chat Noir. But noooooooooo.
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sapphia · 2 months
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The Right Are Engineering A Recession In NZ
tumblr isn't very good at local news, which is why i tend to get my nz politics information from elsewhere. so i can confidently tell you that aotearoa under national is totally, utterly fucked. like, not just in terms of all the social progress they plan to undo, though they do very much do plan to do all of that.
national+act+nzfirst have committed to a financial policy that makes zero fucking economic sense. you know how every time the economy is in bad shape, tories sieze the good economic opportunity to slash services or give tax cuts to the rich? imagine if that was happening for just no reason at all. there’s no crisis we’re facing this would even marginally help, but that's what nact+nzfs tax cut policy is anyway.
aotearoa is currently in a cost of living crisis, like much of the world, and our inflation is, to give it it's technical term, "sticky". This means that it's not still shooting up the graph like crazy, but it should have started to go down more by now according to predictions, but it hasn't, and is sitting at an unsustainably high level.
Inflation is bad because it eats away at the value of your money (not something you want generally) but this inflation is especially bad because it's inflation we created to ward off a recession back in 2020. NZ had the hardest and fastest lockdowns in the world, but at a huge cost -- our economy basically stopped overnight. Without goods and services being bought and sold, we would have been plunged into a financial crisis. But instead the government borrowed money to fund the wage subsidy and pay workers through the lockdowns, injecting money into and stimulating the economy.
This was a bill that was always going to come back to bite us, and for the past several years, the Labour government and the Reserve Bank had been playing a balacing game with our economy, steering us between a recession and a wage-price inflation spiral, with a recession definitely being the preferable one of the two. We actually had short soft one that we’ve come out of, exactly what Grant Robertson and Adrien Orr were aiming for.
Recessions can be small or big - inflation spirals are usually just big. We wanted to aim for a "soft" landing recession by hiking interests rates just enough to bring inflation back under control. The Reserve Bank uses it's tool - the Official Cash Rate, or the OCR, which basically sets the price of interest rates across the country, and the government also can use it's powers to create monetary policy to help the economy. A lot of the criticism Labour received before losing the election was about overspending in areas post-pandemic, as putting money into the economy through government spend by using debt to fund it genuinely causes inflation.
What a government should do during a time of inflation is remove money from the economy. For example, a right wing government would often issue an austerity policy, where the cut the amount of government spending through slashing programmes, benefits, staff, etc etc. A government could also increase taxes so people have less money to spend, could pay down government debt, could invest the money into a fund (e.g. NZ has a superannuation fund that's designed to be eventually self-funding set up by Labour that National have paused payments on when getting into government). It doesn't matter too much what, theoretically speaking -- the point is to get the money out of the economy.
What you definitely, definitely don't want to do during a period of high and sticky inflation is put more money into the economy. That would do the opposite of what you want. Labour were rightfully (at some points) criticised for their inflationary policies. So you'd think National would take their criticisms of Labour’s debt blowout and start paying it down to show how responsible they are, right? No, they’re cutting taxes for (mostly) the wealthy while offsetting this with austerity measures to make this “fiscally neutral”. They will make up for the inflationary effects of doling out money to landlords by cutting back essential government services, trying to frame it as a personnel and budget blowout (it’s not) and saying Labour mismanaged the books and we are in terrible financial shape (we are not; we have a triple A credit rating).
And further, it’s becoming increasingly hard to ignore our infrastructure crisis at nearly every level and every location. Our water systems needs billions of dollars of investment that our councils can’t afford to borrow, our rates are shooting up (and so will our rents), our ferries are old and broken down and Nicola Willis Minister of Finance just canned the “too expensive” deal that was needed to replace them — with most of the money going to into wharf upgrades that are desperately needed. There was a huge sunk cost; we’re not going to be able to to buy shit now. The ferries link the North and the South Island and are vital infrastructure; when they break down (which they did multiple times last year) it causes chaos and brings things to a standstill.
Why are they doing this? Land. It’s always about fucking land. All of National have divested in shares and have bought into land under the guise of this removing the “conflict of interest” that would exist if they had invested into specific companies. The usual alternative that solves this is a blind trust, but that’s not what most of the caucus has money in. Luxon alone sold about 12 million dollars worth of Air NZ shares and now has a property profile worth 20+ million. Oh, and he’s charging the taxpayer $50,000 a year to live in his own house. Thats 2.5 times what I get on the benefit that he’s cutting and putting sanctions on.
Nact don’t care if businesses go under and share prices crash; they’ll just sell their houses and buy stocks for cheaper. Their only concern is propping up the housing market ponzi scheme that they have all invested at the top of. This is why they’ve allowed councils to opt out of densification requirements and why they cut back the brightline test and are trying to boost the population with migrant workers; all of these things make house prices go up, make housing better for investors who make millions in untaxed capital gains.
NACT will not let the property market crash any further. Despite what they’re saying out loud, they actually want it to increase.
And they’re more than happy to wreck the economy to do it.
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logically-asexual · 6 months
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another outline for a fanfic i won’t write:
at some point in season 3/season 4 hawk moth and mayura come up with a plan to split up ladybug and cat noir and take them separately.
mayura gets cat noir and hawk moth gets ladybug. they both succeed (nathalie is struggling with the realization that adrien is cat noir but decides not to tell gabriel about it yet.) and they each come back with the jewels to the mansion.
there in his office gabriel is like okay give me the ring and nathalie is like. no. you give me the earrings.
so gabriel is like??? what no. you give me the ring now, it’s my wish. and nathalie is like fine i’ll give it to you but .. have you thought about who you’re going to sacrifice in exchange for emilie?
but of course gabriel hasn’t he’s just like i don’t care what the price is i want emilie back. so give me the ring. nathalie tells him that he has to choose someone because what if the kwami chooses for him? what if they choose to take gabriel in exchange. or worse. adrien.
so gabriel hesitates and then asks well then what did you have in mind. but nathalie doesnt answer and just insists that she’ll make the wish.
gabriel starts to get scared. he doesn’t know what she’s planning and how she refuses to tell him makes him more worried. so he starts carefully walking towards nathalie like okay okay let’s calm down. just tell me what i should do and i’ll make the wish. but nathalie is walking backwards with her fist tight around the ring.
eventually she says no and begins fighting him for the earrings. they’re struggle for a while but in their normal forms nathalie is way better at fighting because of her martial arts training so she manages to snatch the earrings away BUT gabriel is stronger than her as hawk moth so he transforms and is able to grab her by the wrists, take the miraculous (also the peacock), and pin her to the wall.
and he asks her to just tell him what she was thinking. she still refuses insisting that she will only make sure that he is happy with his family. in the middle of it gabriel realizes. that she wants to sacrifice herself.
gabriel tells her that he will absolutely not let that happen. but she argues that she’s already dying. that she already made this choice from the moment she picked up the peacock miraculous. and gabriel is shocked because he didn’t think that nathalie was actually so prepared to just die for their cause. he thought that she was just as convinced as him that when they had the wish they would save both her and emilie.
but now he realizes that that means not only one death he has to choose for the exchange but two. and the weight of someone actually dying is only now downing on him. he tells her no you can’t die. you’re important to adrien and I.. you’re.. you’re important to me too. if emilie comes back and she learns that i let you die in exchange she will hate me.
and nathalie is like well good luck with that because i’m dying anyway.
so it hits him. that yes the exchange is supposedly fair but it doesn’t feel fair. and also the fact that he somehow let nathalie feel like she’s so disposable, that she doesn’t want to live anymore if it means helping him with emilie. he says something about that, like, i can’t believe i made you feel that way. and. do you think adrien feels that way too? (as in. he feels that he’s not important enough, that his father would rather him dead than emilie)
nathalie thinks about adrien being cat noir and says no. he doesn’t feel that way because in contrast to her adrien has a future. he has goals and friends and purpose.
so then gabriel thinks for a while and eventually lets go of her. she’s tired so she falls to the floor while he calls tikki and plagg to reveal themselves and then gimmi. and he asks if he can make a deal with the kwami.
he says i want my wife back and the kwami says what are you willing to pay and he says that’s the thing. i know i would never give up on achieving that, no matter what i will always get what i want. i just did actually (the kwami also thinks of all the alternate timelines where he always wins and knows it’s true that he would never give up.) and gabriel says i will save my wife Unless. you make it so nathalie is no longer ill from the miraculous. then i’ll stop.
and the exchange is in fact equivalent because he’s exchanging emilie’s life, which he was fated to recover anyway, with nathalie’s life, which was fated to be lost since she was convinced to give it herself.
so the kwami accepts.
then the universe is destroyed and rebuilt and now emilie’s device thing that keeps her alive is gone, she’s buried in a cementery where she should have been, the kwamis have taken all the miraculous back to ladybug and gabriel and nathalie are just standing there in front of emilie’s portrait.
gabriel explains to nathalie that he realized he was being a hypocrite by telling her she couldn’t sacrifice herself while also letting her and even asking her to wear the broken miraculous. that he just hadn’t realized how much he was hurting her.
nathalie of course feels awful, like she has selfishly taken his chance away from him and also like she now has lost the single purpose she had in life so how is she going to keep on living?
gabriel holds her hand and tries to reassure her that he would also have hurt emilie with the knowledge that he took anyone’s life to bring her back, and she would hate him for it, as he would hate himself. and he tells her that now instead of having lost all purpose she has to see that she’s free to choose a new one, just like he will.
he smiles at her and she’s taken aback by the sight because he hasn’t smiled like that since emilie. nathalie says something about it being fine because her goal was for him to be happy again and it seems that there’s hope for that after all.
they hug and the end 🥰
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flightfoot · 4 months
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Any angsty ladynoir fics that don't have the conflict centered around the other heroes? I know this is pretty specific lol
...okay so I'm not sure what you mean exactly, most angsty ladynoir fics don't center the conflict around other heroes? Off the top of my head I can think of two major kinds of fic that should fit the bill: Ladynoir enemies au and "Chat gets injured/killed and Ladybug's very upset about it" fics. Though there are others, of course.
I (Wish I) Knew You by @buggachat
University has been hard on Marinette. Making new friends and maintaining her grades is a lot easier said than done when she has to disappear at odd times to fight akumas. She's struggling, and with Alya away with family and Adrien painfully out of reach, she's never felt lonelier. If only she could talk to someone who really understood her struggles... but it's not like Chat Noir would know anything about loneliness. Right?
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call it even by @anna-scribbles and @sha-nwa
After a year of dating, there is one thing Marinette knows for certain: it's her and Adrien against the world. Through it all, Adrien is kind, patient, and endlessly understanding—even as she tries her best to keep her secret superhero identity hidden from him along with the rest of the world.
Nothing could ruin it, not even the supervillains of Paris: Hawkmoth and Chat Noir.
(adrinette dating // ladynoir enemies au)
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Nothing Else Matters by LiquefiedStars
Marinette couldn’t figure out Chat Noir. He was supposed to be her partner, but instead ended up working for Hawk Moth. Still, her heart betrayed her and when a strong connection forms between them, Ladybug goes to Chat looking for answers, finding out more than she bargained for.
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A Little Fall Of Rain by Druwho
Unable to transform in time, Marinette sacrifices her life to save Adrien from an assassin. With the help of the Kwamis, Adrien is able to bring her back to life, but it comes at a price. One that Adrien alone must pay. Now, Adrien is forced to keep even more secrets. The fact that Marinette is alive and that she has been his Lady all long. More than ever, they must defeat Hawkmoth. Only then can Marinette return to her life.
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Ghost of You by its_just_lori
It finally happened. The akuma attacked at the wrong time. They weren't prepared. For the first time, there was a casualty. Someone was killed. Marinette doesn't care that her identity was exposed to the world; she can't stop blaming herself for what happened. If only she'd been ready... if only she'd done more... There's nothing for Adrien to say. There's nothing he can do other than stay by her side and help her through this pain.
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The Son of my Enemy by Saccha
Cat Noir never wanted to be a villain, but he doesn't have a choice. Ladybug wishes she could save him. A reverse love square, villain!Cat Noir AU.
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I hope these satisfy you! All of them are complete.
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sweetcloverheart · 2 years
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Unpopular Opinion Time (I’m worried I’m turning into an MLB rant blog)
“Style Queen” continues to bother and upset me.
There are so many things that bother me about “Style Queen” but the unintentional(?) lesson the writers threw in the end with Marinette and Chloe’s convo near the end basically cemented for me why I generally loath it and the fact that Chloe being intended to remain an antagonist was deliberate choice made in advance.
Because that means the writers purposely had Marinette, their protag and moral centerpiece, tell a girl they revealed was being neglected and emotionally abused by her parent so much that she flat out copies her behavior so that parent will pay attention to them, to continue doing this. They deliberately made it that their main character say this so as to justify the claim that “Chloe is bad and will never change” later on.
Yes, Marinette isn’t and shouldn’t be responsible for Chloe’s moral fiber or behavior. Chloe is her own person, who makes her own choices, and should be held responsible for the consequences in there of. It wasn’t even Marinette’s fault Audrey decided she liked her and her designs so much to offer the internship, and Chloe had no right to take her desire for that amount of attention out on her and should hash that out with her mom instead - Which is why it baffles me the show would, instead of saying all that, have their hero instead say that Chloe should keep emulating Audrey and that they need to hang out together so they can “see and appreciate” their similarities, and thus involve herself in the situation. Audrey is shown to be a vain, nitpicking narcissist who clearly doesn’t care for/value her family. Even at the end after her akuma was defeated, she refused to consider that her treatment of Chloe was wrong and only reconsidered when she saw Chloe acting as entitled and snobbish as she herself is. No one should ever be emulating her, and Chloe shouldn’t want her love if that’s the price for it.
And yet the shows says she should want it, and this is supposed to be a “good” thing according to the story. Marinette is supposed to think it’s good Chloe wants to be like this, that it’s good Chloe is so desperate for her mother’s attention that she acts out and behaves like a brat, and it being one of the huge reasons she always harassing her. We’re supposed to be happy that Marinette decided to bring them together through Chloe mimicking her mother’s vileness, and that this is something everyone wants. Adrien is allowed to be encouraged to pull away from his father’s controlling behavior, and being forced under his control is show as a naturally bad consequence to have. Kagami is allowed to free herself from her mother’s demanding hand and be her own person, and when she can’t, she’s rightfully portrayed as miserable. Zoe, who did the exact same thing Chloe admitted to in her intro episode, is able to have the “real her” seen and encouraged to be herself - but Chloe has to be like Audrey no matter what, because that’s the only way the show can keep from having to make a new antagonist for the slice-of-life segments she can and should exist - as her mother’s crooked mirror. And when she does exactly that, the show punishes her for daring to continue an unhealthy coping method while also blaming Marinette for both having the gall to try and make the obviously hopeless Chloe better (despite this being because several characters kept telling her she has to help Chloe be better) and yet somehow not doing enough to help (even though 1)that responsibility shouldn’t be on her in the first place and 2) the writers are the ones that keep making it so her efforts are in vain via having her say stuff like she did in Style Queen and having every single adult (and Adrien on occasion) continue to enable that behavior and step in when Marinette (or anyone else even) tries to make her cut it out.
The show makes it seem like Marinette’s making such a kind and noble sacrifice giving up her New York internship for Chloe so she can spend more time with her mom - but considering how Audrey is portrayed in the series proper, is it really? Especially when you consider how Marinette wouldn’t have been able to even do the internship anyways since Hawkmoth is still a problem and her being away from Paris would be an issue even if this wasn’t Chloe’s mom making the offer. What was stopping them from having Marinette just give it up because she decided her duties as Ladybug were more important than the chance to work under a famous fashion critic? Or having it be that Marinette is so disgusted/unsettled by Audrey’s behavior towards Chloe and the rest of the staff during the event that despite the praise she heaped on her, she decided working with someone like that wasn’t worth it. Why involve Chloe in the process when it wouldn’t have been necessary (hell, a meaner part of me is totally willing to believe Marinette wanted out of the internship the minute she saw what Audrey was like to work with and just told Chloe all that so she could soft quit with no one being the wiser)?
Like, whether or not you think think Chloe’s a good person or deserves/was being given a redemption arc or if her backstory justifies/vilifies her current behavior, the way her situation in “Style Queen” was treated and handled was just awful (and...very indicative of how the writers view those kinds of situations). Chloe should not have been told to keep sucking up to Audrey with bad behavior - hell, no kid should be told that.
And maybe this is the Boomer™ in me, but I find something very heartbreaking and sad about a child, after explaining/showing how they’re neglected and abused by a parent to the point they start copying their behavior because it’s the only time they’ve ever get a positive reaction from them, being told they need to continue emulating said abuser so they can earn their love better (and again, have it being portrayed as a good thing).
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gratuitousrex · 3 months
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Miraculous: Origins of The Supreme + Miraculous Paris Aftermath Fanfic
Master Fu: Tikki, Plagg, reveal yourselves...Gimmi Reveal yourself
Gimmi: Hello tiny human, how are you today
Master Fu: I want to make a wish
Gimmi: Here we are again...another human who loves to complai...
Master Fu: I wish to have full control over all the kwamis in existance
Gimmi: What...you do know that by doing that...there is a heavy price to pay....if you were to have control over all the kwami then your world will suffer in return...
Master Fu: I do not care! I will shape this world in my liking....
Gimmi: You do have to know, the only Kwami that you cannot have control over is me for I am the Kwami of Reality and I granted you the wish
Master Fu: It does not matter....as long as I am in control of the Ladybug and the Black Cat miraculous, no one will be able to summon you and undo my wishes...
Gimmi: Fine human! so be it
WHOOOOOOOOOSH
Events of Miraculous Paris happens*
After Miraculous paris...
Betterfly along with redeemed Shadybug and Claw noir have returned to their universe
Betterfly: Ahh its good to be back
Claw: I love your positive cat-itude good sir
Shady: But it doesnt change the fact that our world is still broken
Betterfly: Dont worry, with the help of you two, we will save our world...we helped save one remember
Betterfly: Thank you...Alya Cesaire for your assistance
Alya: W..wait what....what are they doing here
Shady: Dont worry Alya, were on your side now
Betterfly: Its a long story Alya....but believe me, they are good now
Claw: So M'lady, what are we gonna do now
Shady: We better recharge our kwamis first to regain some of our energy back
Betterfly: Agreed...
Shadybug, Claw Noir and Betterfly returned to their houses to feed their kwami
Betterfly returns to the Agreste Mansion as Gabriel Agreste and he noticed his son came there almost the same time as him
Gabe: S..son...where have you been
Adrien: Father, your not gonna believe but I just had a crazy adventure
Gabe: Thats great son...Tell me about it
*Silence*
Adrien: Father...I know I havent been a very good son to you....ever since I lost mother...
Gabe: Son...I know....and im sorry too for not being able to be there for you....I have duties to fulfill...duties to make this world a better place....for you....
Adrien: Um father....I have to tell you something....
Gabe: Son...you can tell me anything
Adrien: Something happened today....the adventure I was saying....it changed me...chaned me for the better
Gabe: What is it son?
Adrien: Father....Im...Im Claw Noir
Gabe *SHOCKED*
Adrien: Im Claw Noir father...well, I used to be....but now, I changed Father...I changed...
Gabe: *Hugs Adrien tightly*
Adrien: *shocked as well*
Gabe: I love you son
Adrien: I love you too father
Gabe: call me dad
*Back at the Dupain Cheng Bakery*
Marinette: M..mom
Sabine: Marinette? MARINETTE, oh sweetie I am worried sick about you....you havent come home for days now
Marinette: It..its okay mom....Im okay now...
Sabine: Oh sweety you know its dangerous outside...
Marinette: Mom....Im sorry *in tears* ....Im so so sorry for all of this
Sabine: Whats wrong Marinette?
Marinette: All this time....I have always ignored you.....all you did was to protect me....ever since dad died, you tried to be there for me.....but I pushed you out of my life....I have always told myself that you do not love me anymore to the point that I myself have believed it foolishly...Im sorry mom
Sabine: Everything will be okay now sweety....now why dont you try this gallete I made? should cheer you up!
Marinette: Thanks mom
*Back at Betterfly Secret HQ*
Nooroo: Master, why didnt you tell Adrien that you are betterfly?
Gabe: Its too dangerous Nooroo, I cant tell him my secret Identity, the supreme still has control over the black cat miraculous and if we are not careful, he might know who am I
Gabe: Remember when I freed you from his control? I suppose if I am able to do the same for my son, then I would be able to tell him...its just....not time yet
Nooroo: I understand master
Gabe: Thank you Nooroo....for always being there....
*Nino and Alya comes back to the HQ*
Nino: Sir....Alya told me everything and....I cant believe you are able to recruit those two menaces....Awesome dude
Gabe: heh thank you Nino...glad you werent hurt from all the chaos that happened...
*The next day...Betterfly had a meeting at the secret HQ along with Shadybug, Claw Noir, Alya and Nino
Betterfly: Glad you two could make it
Claw Noir: Our pleasure mister fly
Shadybug: We wont miss out an opportunity to take down the supreme and free ourselves
Betterfly: Good good, were on the same page
Alya: Forgive my mistrust but...Betterfly, you never told us what happened to your other universe trip and...how can me and Nino know that we can trust these two?
Betterfly: Alya, I...
Shadybug: I understand what you are feeling Alya....I know that when im previously my evil version....Im the reason why your big sister was taken by the supreme.....I understand your....
Alya: No No you dont get to understand.....the pain I have felt.....Betterfly may trust you now but you have yet to earn MY trust...
Shadybug: I know Alya....thats why....for starters....Im gonna reveal my secret Identity so you know the other half of me....
Betterfly: Ladybug, I dont think thats a wise....
Shadybug: Blots off....
Alya *shocked*.....M...Marinette....
Betterfly and Nino *shocked too*
Claw Noir *pretends to be shocked*
Claw Noir: Jokes on you...I already know hehe
Marinette: I know we arent always so close Alya....the first time we met...you offered to be my friend but...I was broken at the time....and I pushed you away.....I pushed everyone away......I guess I can only blame myself for having no one to defend me against Chloe....Im...sorry for everything Alya....
Alya: Marinette...I I dont know if i can forgive you for the pain you have caused me and my family as Shadybug but...maybe I will try
Marinette: Thats good enough for me
Claw Noir: well that could have been worse....Wait....Since she did it...I will too...
Betterfly: No wait
Claw Noir: Daggers in
Adrien: Its me....the famous Adrien Agreste
Nino *shocked*
Marinette and Alya: ughh
Betterfly: well....I trust you all anyway so I guess its a good thing you all know each other now...
Nino: Dudeee...Betterfly hes Adrien...
Betterfly: I know..I know
Nino: Like...I know hes kinda self centered at school but its still coool dude
Adrien: Really? after all the things I did to you?
Nino: No worries dude....I dont mind the pranks at all
Adrien: Wow....my other self is right about how understanding you are after all
Nino: Other what
Betterfly: Okay everyone...lets skip the introductions and proceed on this meeting shall we?
*Meeting*
Betterfly: Okay so to keep it simple...The only way we can defeat the supreme is to free the kwamis of you two....the Ladybug and the Black Cat
Shadybug: and to free them, we must
Claw Noir: go into the supreme fortress and kick some ass
Shadybug: You mean sneak in....your funny fleabag
Claw Noir: oh right right...hehe
Alya: but you must be forgetting something...the supreme fortress is guarded with miraculous holders....
Betterfly: Lucky for us, I know their Identities, their weaknesses and how to avoid their powers
Nino: You do?
Betterfly: Yes...they are influencial people...to say the least
Claw Noir: influencial? oh no....I think I made a mistake
Betterfly: what is it Adrien
Claw Noir: My father...I told him my identity...god I hope hes not one of the miraculous holders that the supreme has control over...
Betterfly: I can assure you Adrien...Gabriel Agreste is a good man....
Claw Noir: well I trust you and I trust my father as well so Im gonna hold on with those words
Betterfly: Okay...here are the Miraculous holders that we should be expecting.....
The Golden Stinger....Also known as Audrey Bourgeois.....the holder of the bee miraculous,
she have unlimited stings so you all need to avoid her venom...otherwise, its game over
Shelter King....also known as Andre Bourgeois....the holder of the turtle miraculous.....he and Golden Stinger are partners and while she is the sword...he is the shield.....we need your cataclysm to destroy his protection
Claw Noir: copy
Betterfly: alright...to the next holders
Dragona....also known as Tomoe Tsurugi....the holder of the dragon miraculous....she has control over certain elements which would be tricky...tricky but straightforward
Rockback...also known as Jagged Stone....the holder of the tiger miraculous....his clout rivals the cataclysm but the lucky charm should be able to conjure something to protect us from his powerful blows
Betterfly: this one....breaks my heart
Amaya...also known as Amelie Graham de Vanily...the holder of the peacock miraculous....so far, she is the biggest threat of them all....
Claw Noir: Wait...you know my aunt Amelie?
Betterfly: lets just say....I know someone close to her.....
Shadybug: But I thought the holder of the peacock miraculous was your partner
Betterfly: Amelie is the new holder....My old partner was the old holder....and she was amazing....
*Flashback*
Betterfly: We share the same goal.....to take down the supreme and end his reign once and for all....everytime paris is attacked, we are there to save the day.....but one day....the supreme decided to deal with us himself.....we did not expect the amount of power he has......he was able to overpower us.....and for that....she had to stay behind to help me escape.....I was wounded...I..I couldnt do anything....I came back to try and save her but it was too late....she died in my arms.......the supreme decided to let me live because he wanted a challenge....someone to oppose him....thats why he did not take my miraculous.....but he took hers....and her identity....she is your mother Adrien.....It was Emilie......that is how she died....The supreme was able to trick Amelie into thinking that I was the one who killed her sister using the miraculous of the fox....Amelie is very powerful now as her desire for revenge against me have grown further....
Claw Noir: *Tearing up*....Now I understand....my mother gave her life for the greater good....just like what my dad wanted for the world....they really are for each other
*After a few hours of the meeting*
Betterfly: Okay....we are ready now....we attack once and for all and free tikki and plagg to undo the madness the supreme did....only Gimmi can save us
Shadybug: to do that, we need to reach the supreme's chamber and break the relic that binds both of the kwami with the supreme...after that...I will make the wish as quick as possible before the supreme is able to stop us
Claw Noir: We will be there Mlady
Nino: Alright my dudes....lets do this
Alya: you sure this will work Betterfly
Betterfly: I have faith Alya....faith
PART 2: THE FINALE COMING SOON
(Note that Shadybug is already redeemed and known as Ladybug here and Claw Noir is already Cat Noir...I just named them Shady and Claw to avoid confusion) Anyway this is my first fanfic and I hope yall enjoy.....PART 2 soon
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jedi-lothwolf · 7 months
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Whumptober Day 5: "You better pray I don't get up this time around"/pinned down
Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug
Summary: Cat Noir faces Monarch alone one violent night.
Warning: Violence.
  Cat Noir couldn't stand Monarch. No matter what he wanted, putting everyone though so much pain and  torture was non-excuseable. Fighting the villain personally was a rare occurrence.
    The fight was harder than normal. Ladybug was nowhere to be seen. The sky was pitch black, the moon hidden behind the clouds. Even she knew that this fight would be too much for her.
    Monarch was desperate. He hadn't cared if he killed the heroes but today he went in knowing this was the day he would risk everything.
    It felt like his prayers had been answered when only one hero emerged to take hugs down.
    Adrien had had a bad feeling the entire day. As soon as he woke up, he knew something was going to happen. There was a pit in his stomach as he went through his classes and when he left school he chose his words carefully when he said goodbye.
    They met at the Eiffel Tower. Monarch was ready for a fight and Cat Noir knew it. Before he knew it he had been slammed into the legs of the tower. He stood up and grabbed his poll from where it rested.
    The villain ran at his, "where is your partner?"
    "Wouldn't you like to know!" He swung his poll. It was met with a sword. Cat Noir pushed the sword back and stepped forward, attempting to hit Monarch. He hit his back, pushing him under the tower.
    As time went on, both hero and villain grew tired. Cat Noir was slammed into the ground. He could feel his bones and muscles growing tired.
    Monarch grabbed Adrien and forced him into a nearby lamp post. The post fell to the ground, Cat Noir didn't. The villain held him harshly and kneed him in the stomach. He cried out on pain.
    Then he was back against the Eiffel Tower legs. The ground has become a place he had grown accustomed to. Monarch walked over as Cat Noir tried to stand. He stomped on his hand, breaking it in multiple places.
    Adrian pulled it back and stood as quickly as he could. As soon as he stood he was thrown back onto the ground. His vision was blurry. All he could taste was salt. The damage done to his body made him regret waking up that morning. He wondered where Ladybug was, hoping she would show up and save him.
    The hero spit blood out of his mouth. His lip was split in multiple places and his face had multiple cuts, both from the ground and from being hit repeatedly by Monarch.
    "This can all end if you would just give me your miraculous." Monarch walked closer to Cat Noir.
    "If you want my miraculous-" Adrian used his poll to stand. He stumbled and swayed as he stood. "You better pray I don't get up this time around." He stuttered his words.
    Adrien knew that he would die for this if he had to. His life for the safety of others seemed like a fair price to pay.
    Gabriel looked at the child in front of him. He stood, ready to die. And Monarch was ready to kill him. He had been in his way for too long.
    "Cataclysm" Adrien spoke carefully. He pushed one foot in front of the other.
    "Resistance." Cat Noir touched Monarch's chest. Cataclysm deactivated and he was still standing. He grabbed the boy's wrist and tossed him back. He grabbed the fallen lamp post and struck him in the ribs.
    The poll stayed on top of him. Cat Noir was pinned. He struggled and as he opened his mouth to activate his power, Monarch forced the poll down. He screamed as his age of his ribs broke under the pressure. "I guess my prayer was answered."
    A foot rested on Adrian's right hand. No matter what he couldn't get out from underneath Monarch. He cried in pain and frustration. Was this really it? Did he lose? The lap post continued to press against him, making his injuries worse. Even if he did leave with his miraculous, he'd have to give it up anyway. His injuries were too severe to not be treated.
    Adrian tied to remove his hand for under the enemy's foot. Nothing. Everything hurt. Monarch kneeled down and replaced his foot with his hand. He looked at the child maliciously. "Goodbye Cat Noir." Then the world went black.
Part two: here when posted
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coffeebanana · 1 year
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angsty ladrien 👀👀👀👀
ok, to be honest i doubt i'll ever finish this one. it was supposed to be partially an exercise in writing present tense, which 1. i hate doing, and 2. i've actually done since i started this doc ahaha. this is an oooold WIP
But basically the idea is that during the "final fight" there's some sort of accident as Hawk Moth's transformation drops, and Gabriel ends up in the hospital in critical condition. So, Ladybug's keeping Adrien company in the waiting room while he waits to see if his father's going to make it (she knows his identity but he doesn't know hers) and it's sort of him sorting through his feelings about?
“Am I supposed to want him to live?” “He’s still your dad. It normal to want him to be okay.”  “And if I don’t know if I do?” Adrien whispers, so quiet Ladybug almost misses it. And that question…she doesn’t know how to answer. Oh, she knows how she feels. She hates Gabriel Agreste with the power of a thousand burning suns for what he’s done to his son. To Paris. To her, even. So if he dies…she won’t grieve. And if it was her life or his, Adrien’s life or his, pretty much anyone’s life or his, Ladybug wouldn’t hesitate to drive the knife in herself. But is she supposed to feel that way? Shouldn’t she have more compassion? What’s the appropriate punishment for a man who's killed millions of people when they were all resuscitated at the end of the day, so there was no lasting damage. Is his life a fitting way to pay that price? Marinette doesn’t know. She can’t remember if she wanted Hawk Moth dead before today, only that the thought of ever seeing his face again makes her want to punch something. Because he did this. He hurt Adrien. And even though his death will almost certainly hurt Adrien more, he can’t just get away with all he’s done. And now Adrien, who before today probably would have been the first to say that nobody deserved to die for their mistakes, is asking her this. If his father should die. If some part of him is allowed to want that. And Ladybug is too young for that kind of question. She’s sixteen, and five hours ago her biggest worry was tomorrow’s History test that she probably won’t write now. She’s sixteen, and she’s supposed to be asking her crush out to the movies, not holding his hand as his father lays dying. She’s sixteen, and she doesn’t have all the answers no matter how much Paris looks up to her. Ladybug saves the day. She repairs the damage. She doesn’t stay to see what happens afterwards. She doesn’t know how to heal the invisible scars she and all of Paris have sustained. She’s never dealt with the aftermath before. Not like this. And she shouldn’t have to. She can’t. Suddenly this is all too much. She’s saved Paris a thousand times, but she can’t help the boy that means the world to her. So she croaks out some lame excuse about needing to use the washroom, and she runs. Because that’s what Ladybug does. Once the dust settles and the immediate crisis has passed? She runs away when things are tough. And if Paris knew that, they wouldn’t love her half as much.
Thanks for the ask!! 💜
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Yeah but like. Didn't they confirm back in S2/S3 that Gabriel and Nathalie were aware of the whole "every action has an equal and opposite reaction" nature of the Wish and they knew Adrien could very well be the price to pay. And Nathalie being Mayura immediately makes me feel like she should not have custody of a sentikid. Either she had no problem committing multiple murders, or she doesn't view Adrien as a real person either. Given that she uses his amok and her motivation for loving/protecting Adrien from Gabe seems to be Adrien's importance to Emilie, I'm inclined to go with the latter. Meanwhile a fair amount of what Felix cites as unforgivable behavior from Colt is actually the same thing Gabriel's doing to Adrien nowadays, he's just more subtle about it. Bad vibes all around
I can't remember if they did?
Like. The fandom debated on if they did or not. I know that. I'm not sure if they know that Adrien would be at risk in a 'life-for-a-life' scenario.
Plus Canon kinda flipflops on if it's an 'Equivalent Exchange' situation or a 'rewriting the universe' situation. At the very least what happened in Ephemeral confirms more on the latter. So why would Gabriel or Nathalie believe that Adrien would be in any danger if they could recreate a perfect world where everything is fine?
The whole 'killing the Sentimonsters' thing is also questionable as fuck. This was definitely a case where the retcons make everyone look bad.
Pre-retcons? Who cares. Even the more lifelike ones like Sentibug were just fake Magic Constructs. Why did it matter if they 'died' if they're not 'alive'?
But when they retconned the Sentis to be sapient, they'd already had a handful get killed off. Suddenly giving Nathalie/Gabriel a conscience about the new ones they make would draw attention to the others. But also they can't just /not have them make and kill Sentimonsters/ because what the hell is the point of the Peacock being in this show if they can't use it??
(Side note: This is another reason I hate the retcon for making all Sentibeings be Sapient. No matter who has the Peacock. They either have to use it and then kill the Sentimonster, or just never use it at all.)
Anyway!
This might be possible to salvage for at least Nathalie if we have her in somewhat the same boat as Marinette? Where she doesn't know that /all/ the Sentimonsters are Sapient Beings. She knows Adrien, Felix and Kagami are, but assumes that they were Specially Made in some way or had something Added that made them Real while the others are not. So have her find out and have a breakdown about it. Gabriel can't get the same treatment since he /definitely/ knows as he was there for Adrien's creation.
Also yeah Canon!Gabriel is just. UGh.
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fandomsilhouette · 3 years
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So a lot of people have been talking about sentiAdrien, and @arcadeology​ brought up the point that many times, the very thing that someone is hurt by is what is part of them to begin with: 
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Those of you who’ve read this delightful fic will understand exactly why this post about pigeon feather allergies has prompted me to write. 
cw: sentiAdrien crack theories, pregnancy, miscarriage, blood, illness, Gabriel AgrestexPigeon Man crack OTP, crack taken seriously. 
Emilie married Gabriel Agreste for the money. 
It’s not a bad thing. He was sweet to her, attentive and kind if a little too coldly distant for her tastes, and Emilie was a model girlfriend-turned-wife in more ways than one: doting, flirtatious without being scandalous, affectionate, the picture perfect face for his up and coming fashion brand. 
Besides, she was 24 years old and hadn’t even had a crush yet, and her sister loved magic so deeply Emilie was worried this mystical “career” would leave Amelie destitute. Gabriel was soft to her whims, and rich enough to support another family. 
Emilie was just being practical. 
Mr. Ramier was anything but. He was wildly passionate about anything and everything he loved, pigeons most of all. He dreamt of flying free, wild rebellion and dogged pursuit in the name of love. He was the best kind of crazy. 
No one ever imagined he’d be crazy in love with a married woman. 
He certainly never imagined she could love him back. 
Emilie had always been practical, that’s all. So when the offer of a warm body came, a man who made her heart patter in her chest and bring to life the flutter of feathers taking flight in freedom as her wings, she fell into bed with him and loved and laughed and lied to keep her marriage safe. She loved Mr. Ramier for every reason she could never love Gabriel Agreste: he loved her back. 
It’s just such a shame that practicality never prevented accidents. It’s such a shame Emilie could see herself loving this bastard baby enough to be impractical enough to keep him. 
It doesn’t matter. Practical can mean anything, as long as it keeps her-- and now, her lover and her child-- safe. Magic, whispered her sister. Magic, she followed. 
Gabriel, ever devoted servant of his wife, follows obediently. 
Half buried in snow, fingers moments away from permanent frostbite, Emilie unearths her first treasure. It’s not half of what she wanted, neither wishes nor creation nor cat, but the butterfly and peacock miraculi wink and shimmer against snow, and the drop of blood that spills when the brooch pricks stands stark red against the fluffy white. She kicks black pebbles over the trodden snow to cover her tracks and grins, triumphant. 
It’s a promise, Emilie whispers. Red for the ladybug, black for the cat she’ll have in her hands. 
Promises are not practical, she remembers six months later. With every experiment on the brooch, Emilie finds herself coughing up blood and bile, black and red and horrible, horrifying. 
It doesn’t matter. Emilie makes do with what she’s got. Gabriel searches harder, goes on longer trips and calls them business, because it’s his business whether she dies, whether she lives to represent his company, or to keep him company. He’s in Tibet when she succeeds, or manages something close to success. He has no idea the baby’s been lost. 
He’s never known it wasn’t his, anyways. 
Gabriel isn’t due back home before the baby comes; there’s a baby in her arms to greet him at the door and she’s made it herself. He praises her new choker, pigeon feather dusted in gold and glitter hanging down past her throat. 
It’s the last time she’ll ever see Mr. Ramier. Emilie is practical, and her love is not. This gift, though, she will cherish for far longer than her own life. 
She’ll cherish it long enough for her son’s. 
Adrien is a perfect boy, a model boy modeled after his cousin and delightful to every sense; he grows in strange spurts and jumps, and Gabriel is too busy to notice. Emilie keeps her boy home, safe and protected and easy to mold. 
It’s not enough. She sends Gabriel pacing the earth for the miraculi she craves, experiments desperately on the one she has until she’s coughing up more than blood: strength, memories, hope. It doesn’t matter. Anything is too cheap a price to pay for her baby boy, for the love she lost by the hand of her own folly. 
When she gives up the last of everything, Adrien turns into a real boy: hard coded to love and grow and... rebel. He finds his own wings as his mother loses hers, and Gabriel goes mad in his grief. 
After all, he’s lost the two people he’s ever known all at once. 
When his empathy butterfly phases into Mr. Ramier, Gabriel is awash in a type of furiously determined love he's only felt twice.
Once from his wife...
And once upon a time from his son.
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Gabriel vs Adrinette
Not that it isn't the expected Fandom reaction to hate Gabriel to all hells for standing in between the Love Square becoming canon, but regarding the Gabriel is against Adrien being in a relationship with Marientte thing, people are right now kinda ignoring something major from “Perfection”
More (and ALOT of spoilers; also for “Emotions”) under the cut
The end credit scene of "Perfection" gave us a shockingly solid reason for that. This isnt “Chat Blanc” logic where Gabriel broke Adrinette up to akumatize Marinette, or simply for shits and giggles. After Gabriel akumatized Kagami in “Perfection” - where the akuma went into her ring - Tomoe literally walzed into Gabriel’s office, throwing hands and threatening him:
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Alright, first of all: HELL YES Tomoe, good on you for immediately defending your daughters safety and life after Gabriel carelessly endangered Kagami’s EXISTENCE. Again, the megakuma went into Kagami’s ring. If Kagami hadnt managed to break free of the akumatization herself (something Gabriel tried to STOP her from btw) through her friends wholesome love and care for her, then at some point Ladybug and Chat Noir might have found a way to break her akuma object and THAT would have fucking killed Kagami.
It doesnt matter how unlikely it was for that to happen, point still stands that Tomoe is 100% right. Gabriel endangered Kagami’s LIFE by akumatizing her like this. Tomoe going at his throat was justified because she is a mother looking out for her daughter.
BUT
This is not where the threat remained and you cant just ignore that going onwards:
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The shot composition and the way Gabriels hand moves in the gif above pretty much speak for themselves because your eyes are automatically drawn to Gabriels wedding ring; and what that means should be ridiculously obvious at this point: Adrien.
Look, after “Perfection” and ESPECIALLY “Emotion” I dont care anymore how many layers deep in denial you still are about Adrien, Kagami and Félix being Sentihuman. If you still havent accepted that then this isnt the post for you, sorry. No offense, but I’m continuing. 
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As I said, as justified as Tomoe 100% IS to go off on Gabriel for endangering Kagami, you cant just ignore that she then literally threatened to do the same under tighter terms. Tomoe didnt threaten to destroy Gabriel HIMSELF, reveal him to the public or straight up kill him as he almost did Kagami.
Tomoe countered the threat he posed to her daughters life by threatening Gabriel to kill ADRIEN, if Gabriel ever pulls something like this again or steps too far out of the line their contract created. Btw, probably this one from season 3 “Animaestro”:
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(Funny how quite some people already guessed back then that his has something to do with an arranged marriage for Adrien and Kagami. If this is indeed the contract Tomoe is referring to, then that assumption years ago was correct!)
Adrien just like Kagami is an innocent child in their parents massive plan of power and control. Tomoe threatened to kill an innocent child, Gabriel’s child, and Gabriel took that bloody serious as he should as Adrien’s father:
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In this conversation both Tomoe and Gabriel acted from their position and role as PARENTS.
As much as Gabriel is a fuck awful human being who deserves his comeuppance, no, Tomoe is not justified in lowering the worth of Adrien’s life and ENDING it as a punishment for Gabriel just because GABRIEL carelessly put Kagami in a position of life-threatening danger. Dont applaud Tomoe when she defended her daughter and then turn around and play deaf when she threatened the life of Gabriel’s son. Tomoes target should be GABRIEL and Gabriel ONLY.
But she didnt. Tomoe is the one with more power in her hands and she spoke the threat that if Gabriel doesnt/cant uphold his side of their contract she will make ADRIEN the price Gabriel has to pay.
Excuse me if I’m not just ignoring this because its inconvenient for the Love Square. It sucks that we dont have all the context bc Gloob refused to respect the chronological order, but as for now Gabriel isn't so fircely against Adrinette because hes a monster and hates his son’s happiness itself, the situation is ALOT more complicated than that.
And I’m pointing it out because I honestly didnt expect the show to not just make Gabriel an even bigger threat to the Love Square as he already was til now because of the same ol’ neglective and unreasonably harsh demands by principle that make Adrien miserable.
No, Gabriel has an ACTUAL reason for this now in s5. In the “Protection” trailer we already heard that Adrien and Kagami were basically “made for each other” from the start by their parents alliance and we saw that reinforced in “Emotion” by them being the King and Queen of the Diamond Ball (and apparently the main jewels of this creppy rich cult...)
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Look, I'm not anywhere close to saying that Gabriel standing between the love square and now having it more and more out for Marinette as a civilian is even a fraction of GOOD (I shouldnt even need to state this but I know this fandom. Save is save.)
But I AM saying that among all the other things that have now made a 180 degrees turn for the season 5 narrative, the reasons and motivations for Gabriels abusive parenting have also changed to a different extreme direction that... you can actually understand from his perspective in these massively fucked up circumstances Gabriel himself has created on every level for his own son for the last 15 years and before Adrien was even born.
(this is in every way still on Gabriel, that's a base-line truth)
So if Adrien and Kagami are already promised to each other and Tomoe EXPECTS that Gabriel's side of the contract is upheld as promised - so Adrien being Gabriel's perfect heir and Kagami's future husband (same goes for Kagami) - then YES, Gabriel is not so fircely against Adrinette for no reason.
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Cause as much as she would hate this in every way, Marinette Dupain-Cheng, her love and Adrien's growing feelings for her ARE currently a life-threatening factor putting a target on Adrien's head. Our love birds just dont KNOW that!
And that is in my opinion a much more interesting way to approach the season where Marinette and Adrien finally find each other. The love square is 100% in the right of course and the narrative treats it that way, but the prince's cruel father - the king - is not out here now having it out for his sons Knight/love just because he's a dick. The prince is already promised and the king was threatened by the other more powerful ruler - he gets his weaponry from and the prince is promised to their daughter - that if the prince isn't doing exactly what he is supposed to do then the king will receive his sons head on a spear.
Thats not something I have in me to pretend like Gabriel has no reason whatsoever to... not WANT.
The man doesnt want this son dead. No matter what the situation is or how Gabriel handles it, that... that parental instinct by itself I get and be honest, so do YOU.
100% still on the warmongering mad kings past and current actions and decisions - he put his prince in this position - but I can still absolutely get behind why the King now gets even more dangerous, overprotective and controlling and is against his son finding true love, when up til now the king HIMSELF has neglected and abused his son so much that the prince went out finding love and happiness elsewhere (Also, the prince has the damn humanright to live his own life, thank you very much)
Listening to his father less and less and escaping out of his grasp which formerly was “merely punishable disobedience” (if noticed), but NOW the kings neglect and abuse has lead to circumstances and behavior from his son that under these new heightened stakes are basically causing the prince to get/getting (himself) killed.
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In my opinion, this is the best way the show could have handled this. And it completely caught me by surprise because at this point I didnt DARE to hope that the show would create circumstances of Gabriel standing between the love square that actually give the complexity of the Family Agreste story the justice they deserves. Gabriel Agreste doesnt have to be RIGHT or anything but the villain of the story to be an understandable but still cruel villain father. I love this. Fucking thank you!
But another reason why I love this, is because it tightens the noose Gabriel created for his families fate in “Destruction” - by cataclysming himself - so much further:
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This was already a more than amazing upgrade for Gabriel’s and Nathalie’s villain motivations. No matter what was in s1-s4, the new stakes of “if we dont win, Adrien will loose us both and be all that's left of our family” simply ARE understandable and even sympathetic villain parent motivations.
Now, what is DONE with this for Gabriel and Nathalie respectively is a different question, but THIS reasoning is a worthy moral noose for a villain parent (both of them). THIS is a great family conflict and it was only made BETTER by Tomoe's threat in “Perfection”.
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And it doesnt even paint Gabriel as anything BUT the villain of the story, who is the root of all of the horrible dangers/losses for which Adrien is now put in place and to be the one who has to pay for his father’s sins. Gabriel and even Nathalie is set up to escape the full brunt of the consequences of their actions by death. But what about Adrien when everything Agreste related goes to hell and he's the only one LEFT?
I’m not saying this is necessarily what’s also about to play out in Canon. These are the current STAKES of the Agreste Family because of Gabriel himself. But may I say, the situation was never more morally complex than right now.
I cant wait to see how much further the s5 Agreste story goes, this is AMAZING!
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TW Character death TW Suicide of Character ( Not graphic but if still)
Listening to the cover from “ smells like teen spirit” from the black widow and .....thinking about a Chat blanc 2.0 au.....because those lyrics fit Maris screwed up mental health so well! I’ll only take the Lines that think fit the most!
Load up on guns and pray for your friends..it’s fine to lose and to pretend
is
Paris drowning in Chaos because honestly, Chat blanc would smash all of them like a nasty fly
The police were too busy arresting a Chinese innocent mother than preparing for actual dangerous villains (Yes I’m salting on officer Roger he deserves it!)
The Mayor pretended that Ladybug wasn’t fourteen, that she could get him out of any trouble
and Marinette herself pretended that she would prevent Chats Akumatisation, that she would protect him
And the other heroes know they can’t win but they pretend for Paris, for Ladybug, they pretend to have a chance but in the end, all they can do is pray for mercy, they pray for their loved ones' lives and theirs
She overboard and self-assured
Simply Marinette telling herself that she can fix everything, that she can do everything even though she shouldn’t have to and can’t
Oh no I know a dirty word
Tell me that doesn’t sound like sassy Marinette, the same one who stood up to Lilla, tell me this girl that the Mayor thinks is such a kind superhero wouldn’t curse to his face because he never bothered to ask her if she was okay, she was never a child to him, only an excuse to not do his job, and she knows it
Hello Hello Hello, how low
Chat blanc in his rage yelling “ I’m here! Do you notice me now, appreciate e me? Well, it’s too late!”
He has sunken deep, he knows it in the back of his mind, but blanc is strong too strong for noir and Adrien, and so is Blancs lust for revenge
With the lights out it’s less dangerous
The heroes hiding in alleyways, dark streets the moonlight doesn’t touch At any place where it’s harder for him to find them
Here we are, now entertain us
Gabriel would love Chat Blanc's power, he would see it as entertainment, to chase this bug girl around Paris commanding her partner, her best friend to kill her
Our little group has always been and always been and always will be until the end
Again the miraculous team fighting against Chat blanc knowing it most likely will be their last fight, but at least their together, at least they will die together
and I forget just why I taste I oh yeah  guess it makes me smile
That last part is where I get the most inspiration... Just Chat noir dying, shot by scared soldiers,, killed Majestica because no one should die like her daughter almost did and she never trusted Chat since then anyway
It doesn’t matter: he’s dead and Ladybug remains and she can’t deal with his death
It’s too much after all that trauma, after the hell she went through
She sits on their roof, the sun is setting, she de- transformed, her hair is open messy, her eyes broken
Plagg and Tikki are in her lap, trying to comfort her
Plagg tells her how much Adrien loved her “ More than himself”
She cries, sobs screams The Kwamis look at her
And then she stops
Still shaking she whispers, combines them, and makes a wish She closes her eyes, tears falling
Her desire is not what the Kwamis expected, not what they wanted to do But she`s the guardian, her word is their law
She would like to bring her love back but someone else would have to pay the price, and she doesn’t want that, no matter how much it hurts
Eyes closed, tears still falling she sings Little Ladybug on her roof
Lilla falls down the stairs of her mother's apartment, she falls hits the ground, breaks her neckShe lied, telling everyone she’s been in a princes country that’s why they find their corpse three weeks later when her mothers come back from a business trip
All alone without her kitty
Felix is hit by a car, he was running away, he was caught stealing a wallet, he dies on the scene
Talking to the moon, well her mind is already crazy
Chloe falls off a roof, she tried to be Ladybug, as she hits the ground she realizes how foolish that dream was
Little Ladybug on a roof will always love her kitty
Gabriel and Nathalie, they're on a press conference, talking about how hard Adrien's death is for them, how it’s a lesson for children not to play superhero
Then the pain in their chest, Gabriel is the first to fall, clutching his chestNathalie runs to him, she collapses reaching for him as the world goes black
Their dead, her enemies, all of them, She feels it, she laughs hysterically
Luka and Alya come to her they want to talk, comfort her
And they see her sitting there
Just like months ago, a naive Ladybug saw Chat blanc sitting there She’s not turning when they call out to her
Oh well whatever nevermind
Marinette thinking about the consequences, the people who will want to punish her
Su-Han, Bunnix
And not caring, She has made her choice They caused it, they caused it, so they should understand
Well they won’t bother her, never again
Wishes have a downside, they demand a balance Marinette is not stupid, she knows this She planned this
A sad smile
So many people died that were bad for Paris, endangered the whole city Now someone else has to die, someone good for Paris, the city's beloved saviour Marinette collapses nearly falls off the roof  as Luka catches her She’s dead, and so ends the tail of Ladybug and Chat noir ........... This turned into a half fic, ladies and gentleman that happens if I get “ Too much into it” I wanted to go outside early today.....well “Smells like teen spirit” is a very angsty cool song for writing XD
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chatonne-rousse · 3 years
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The Importance of the Black Cat
Adrien has a lot on his mind - concerns, questions, doubts. And right now, he has only one being to confide in. There is not enough cheese in the world to make Plagg want to handle this situation, but his holder needs him, and he knows two things with certainty: his very important place in the world, and that no one hurts his kitten. Not if he has anything to say about it.
Read it on Ao3 here.
The Camembert he holds in his paws is aged beautifully, gooey and perfectly pungent. He knows it was expensive, purchased with his holder’s allowance, and therefore tries to at least do the kid the honor of enjoying it. But as he mulls over the day’s events, the first few bites sit like a brick in his tiny stomach.
Tonight, Plagg eats his cheese for sustenance only. It’s hard to find the usual joy when his holder hasn’t spoken since they arrived home.
The light in the closet switches off as Adrien shuffles out into the bedroom, dressed for bed in black pajama pants and an old white t-shirt. The departure from his usual red and black spotted look doesn’t escape Plagg’s notice, but he chooses not to comment.
Plagg discovered long ago that his devotion to his holders is inversely proportional to his ability to counsel them. He knows he’s not good at advice beyond cheese and chaos. He wasn’t made for emotions and heartfelt chats.
A sure and confident holder didn’t usually open his heart or seek his kwami’s counsel, and Plagg liked that. They did their jobs, they shared their lives, but they didn’t share their hearts. They didn’t need to, because his holder needed his power more than his presence.
But once in a while, he’d materialize in front of a human whose eyes shone with innocent kindness, and he knew immediately that they would need him. If he’s honest, Plagg will admit that these are the best wielders of destruction. It’s all about intention, after all, and a pure heart rarely destroys with disregard. These holders, however, always seemed to come with a price - they saw their kwami as less of a means to an end and more of a friend.
He loved these holders. He would level cities and wipe out species for them. But oh, did he ever dread having to talk to them. Really, really talk.
Plagg knows his kitten will break the silence soon. It’s only a matter of time. He isn’t sure if it will be to talk about being stuck in the elevator with his very good friend, a monologue that will no doubt be punctuated by sighs and soft eyes that will be quickly denied if his kwami points them out.
One undeniable fact from the day, however, is the racing pulse and rapid breathing of a boy terrified of being locked up and feeling increasingly helpless in the situation. Plagg knows very well that it happened, because he was tucked inside Adrien’s shirt listening to his pounding heart. He hopes his holder doesn’t want to talk about that, because it’s way above Plagg’s pay grade.
He also hopes his holder won’t ponder why only he was dragged through the portal to safety, or why Rena Rouge was the one to do it.
Plagg gets down almost two full wedges of cheese before Adrien sits down on the edge of his bed with a heavy sigh.
“Hey, Plagg?” His voice is quiet but doesn’t betray any emotion yet. That’s actually more worrying.
Steeling himself, Plagg swallows the last big bite of cheese and zips from the desk to perch on top of the globe, facing his holder. “What’s up?”
He heaves another sigh before looking up into Plagg’s eyes, emotions still unreadable.
“How important is the black cat?”
Oh. A wave of relief makes Plagg’s whiskers perk up. The question is unexpected but definitely not unwelcome. He’s lousy with advice but an expert at talking about himself.
He puffs up his tiny chest and grins a fanged grin. “Only the most important, kid! Everything has to end sometime - except me, of course, but,” he shrugs, “we can’t all be perfect.” He hopes that will garner a smile, but realizes a moment too late that he’d started his speech talking about death to a boy who lost his mother at thirteen. Oh no, he thinks, panicking. He’s bad at this, too.
He barrels on. “I mean, creation is nothing without destruction. The very concepts go together, always. Can you imagine a world where flowers never wilt and people never die?” Adrien’s eyes widen and his brows furrow. Shit, Plagg thinks. I did it again.
“Plagg, that sounds...really nice, actually.”
He shakes his head. He can get this back on track. He’ll fall back on pragmatism like always. “It does, but that’s not how the world works. Your planet can’t sustain an expanding and eternal population. Everything grows and lives and dies and starts over again. Everything has a beginning and an end.” Plagg’s eyes shine with pride. “Only I, and my very lucky holders, get to harness that inevitability into a real power, and use it for good. Tikki and her bugs can create, but we destroy,” he pitches his voice lower, his tone serious, “so they can create again.”
Adrien’s eyes are still wide, but Plagg sees wonder and a bit of pride there. He lets his tiny shoulders relax.
“I never thought of it that way. You really are amazing, buddy.” He reaches out to scratch Plagg behind the ears with a soft smile that his kwami would see doesn’t reach his eyes if his own weren’t closed with pride and delight.
The hand retreats, and Plagg opens his eyes just to watch Adrien’s face fall.
“But I meant...how important is the black cat to the ladybug?”
"How...what?" Plagg splutters, taken aback. "I just told you, kid. Every beginning has an end. Creation and destruction are perfectly equal. You don't want to know what happens when they're not."
Adrien's eyes snap to his, clearly on the edge of a dawning horror. Oh no. Not again.
Plagg waves his paws. "What I mean is, you need each other. Tikki is never activated without me, and I'm never called up without her. We're two halves of a whole. You've never seen the inside of the miracle box," he scowls, "which is bullshit, by the way, but if you did, you'd see that the center is a circle, split perfectly in two. Tikki and I go together, and so do you and Ladybug. You can do this without each other, but you're not meant to."
Adrien's shoulders droop. "Yeah, I know she can win a fight without me. She's had to do it before." He sighs. "A lot."
"Sure," Plagg agrees, and can't resist adding, "but she wouldn't need to if you didn't throw yourself in the line of fire every chance you get."
"I have to protect her, Plagg! You know that! Ladybug is more important than me."
"Kid!" Plagg bursts out in frustration, "I don't know how else to tell you this! You. Are. Equal."
“Then…” Adrien’s breath catches and he blinks several times. “Then why doesn’t she need me anymore?”
For just a moment, in the time it takes for the words to register and translate and pierce his heart, Plagg’s ire flares white-hot and livid. No one hurts my kitten and gets away with it. But he looks into his holder’s eyes, sad and achingly lonely, and his anger slips away as quickly as it came. He’ll deal with his own feelings on the matter later.
Besides, it’s not Marinette’s fault. She’s doing the best she can. He’d still relish giving her an earful, but piling on the heartbreaking guilt about his holder’s situation wouldn’t really help and might just snap what Tikki has insinuated is a currently-tenuous grasp on stability. Plagg knows she’s making decisions based on the mentorship of a flawed man, a failed guardian who ran from his mistakes for the better part of two centuries.
Fu never understood Plagg and never tried to. None of the guardians did. Beyond knowing the basics of his power and the importance of the ring of the black cat in relation to the earrings of the ladybug, Fu never saw Plagg as anything more than a liability. Which is honestly fair, but Plagg doesn’t have to like it.
He definitely doesn’t have to like it when the rules of secrecy leave his kitten in the dark and feeling useless. Especially after what he now suspects from the clues he got today.
He looks into his holder's tear-filled eyes and sees a soft innocence rare among the long line of black cats who've worn the ring. This might just be his most difficult assignment yet, but it's also one of his favorites, and he'll protect his kitten no matter what it takes. Even if it means talking about feelings.
Once his stomach is settled, he's going to eat so much cheese to make up for this.
Plagg takes a deep breath. "Who spotted Optigami in the elevator today?"
Adrien blinks but says nothing.
"Who made sure Ladybug didn't tell her secrets to Truth?" He waits another moment, watching Adrien's blush rise and letting his words sink in. "And who protected her identity when she was hit by Kwamibuster?"
"Okay, but—"
Plagg steamrolls his holder shamelessly. "You were the key to defeating Gorizilla, Stormy Weather, Lady Wifi. I have a long memory, kid. Do you want me to keep going? Because I haven't even gotten to the times you kept your bug afloat with all those pep talks and disgusting feelings. A nice piece of Brie would've perked her up, but I have to admit that your methods worked, too."
Adrien sniffs and chuckles. "Okay, buddy. I get it." His eyes still betray an ocean of hurt, but Adrien's soft smile seems genuine.
Plagg has never quite understood human emotion, though he's seen it all in his many centuries among humanity. He's also seen the myriad ways humans cover up one emotion with another (and another, and another, and sometimes destructive behaviors and very dark paths). He doesn't much enjoy dealing with human feelings, but he when it comes to masks, he prefers the very stylish ones he manifests on his holders' faces, changing with the times and his whims and his holders' thoughts. It's been a long time since he had a holder whose civilian life necessitated so many different masks. No wonder he eats so much Camembert to recharge - it's exhausting just watching it.
"What I'm saying, kitten...er, kid, is that your bug needs you. Paris needs you. And I know that because creation always needs destruction." He snorts a laugh. "That's a fact that's bigger than both of us."
"Yeah, you're right. I know you're right." Adrien sighs and stands to pull back the covers and turn out the light. He climbs in bed and heaves another sigh as his head hits the pillow. "I just wish she'd let me help her. I...I know she's going through something."
Plagg settles on the pillow next to Adrien's, in the Camembert-infused spot where he sleeps. "Being a guardian kind of sucks. It used to be a whole big thing - years of training and ceremonies and shaving your head in a weird pattern..."
Adrien breathes a laugh in the darkness.
"Did you just imagine your beloved bug with her pigtails cut off and a bald spot shaved into her head?"
"Plagg! How dare you?" comes the reply, but his laughter betrays him. Yeah, he's totally picturing it.
Plagg smiles. "What I mean is, you know her. As much as you can, at least. She's told you over and over how important you are to her. I hear all that mushy crap, you know. I don't think she means to hurt you." A pause. "If she does, she'll regret it," he mutters.
"Please don't threaten my future wife, Plagg."
"Still?"
"Still what?"
Plagg blinks. Adrien blinks, then finally catches up.
"Oh. Well." He takes a deep breath. "I'm...a little upset about some things. But I'm sure we can work it out. People make mistakes. Besides, just because someone hurts you doesn't mean you stop loving them, Plagg."
He wouldn't trade Adrien and his tender heart for the world, but sometimes Plagg wishes he was already a bit more jaded when he slipped the ring on his finger that first day. He doesn't want to witness the moment his holder's gentle spirit is finally crushed by what he knows better than most is a very cruel world.
For a long moment, Plagg considers his answer and finally chooses sarcasm. He shrugs. "You can always just cataclysm their prized possessions. That works, too."
That startles a laugh from his holder, tired and tinged with emotion, but a laugh nonetheless. Plagg considers it a win.
They settle into silence. Adrien's eyes close sleepily. Plagg considers getting another wedge of cheese now that his stomach has calmed down a little, but the thought that this is far from over makes his indigestion flare again. Love is messy and inconvenient, the Cancoillotte cheese of emotions. But, he supposes, looking at his holder in the dark, it's worth the difficulty.
Adrien's eyes open suddenly to meet Plagg's glowing green.
"Thanks for talking to me, buddy. I'm sorry I—"
Plagg zips over to his holder before he can finish the sentence, tucking his little body into the crook of Adrien's neck and starting up a loud purr.
"You're welcome. You owe me so much cheese."
Adrien laughs again, and Plagg purrs louder when he reaches up to scratch behind his tiny ears.
"Reblochon again?"
Plagg stifles a laugh at the fact that he has penance cheese for dealing with Adrien's feelings before realizing how sad it is that he...well, has penance cheese for dealing with Adrien's emotions. Someday, when his holder is on his own and out from under the tyrannical rule of his asshole father, Plagg has every intention of cataclysming Gabriel's entire atelier, including his tablet and any backup drives. He dreams about it sometimes. Just watching the world burn. It'll be beautiful.
He sighs wistfully before answering. "I was thinking Époisses."
Adrien groans. "Plagg, no. It's so gross."
"Plagg, yes. Feelings are gross. Cheese is life."
Another sigh. "Fine. I'll order it in the morning."
Silence falls over them again, this time comfortable and warm. When Adrien's breathing evens out, Plagg heads over to the cupboard for a snack. By the time he's eaten two more wedges of Camembert and thought about the whole situation, he's decided to pay Pigtails and his other half a visit. This can't continue. They're all headed for catastrophe, and no one wants to see what he'll do if this breaks his kitten.
He takes a wedge of cheese for the road and heads for the window, but something makes him stop before he phases through. He turns back to look at his sleeping holder. The moonlight shines through the windows, casting shadows like prison bars across the room, across the bed, across his kitten. Plagg thinks suddenly of Adrien waking up alone, his kwami nowhere to be found, and realizes he can't just leave.
He sighs. He's sighed so many times tonight.
Plagg tosses the cheese in the air and catches it expertly, swallowing it in one gulp, then makes his way back to the bed.
Tomorrow, he'll find a way to phase into Pigtails' bag during homeroom for a much-needed discussion with Tikki. He doesn't want to - he really doesn't want to - but Plagg intends to do his part to fix this. Holders like his come once in a very, very long lifetime. Adrien is worth it.
He settles again on his cheese-scented pillow and curls up, wrapping his tail snugly around his body. Soon his purr matches the rhythm of Adrien's quiet breathing, and peace, however temporary, falls gently over the two of them once more.
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liquid-luck-00 · 4 years
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Consolation + The “Talk”
Bio!Dad Bruce
Day 9: Consolation and Day 10: The “Talk”
@biodad-bruce-month 
Ao3 ~~~ First ~~~ Previous ~~~ Next
This got a little long, sorry not sorry
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One week, one week has passed since Damian started school in Paris. One week since the tower of lies that Lila has built began to crumble and fall. 
By the beginning of the next day she had backed off all her lies about the Wayne family but she just re-doubled all her efforts on lies that included Prince Ali, Clara Nightingale, and Jagged Stone. But the tower she had built was going to fall. 
And Damian was ready to bring an end to this liar’s reign.
So you can trust that he would find a way to avenge his sister without the use of violence against her, especially in Paris, and especially knowing his father’s mantra of vengeance not revenge. But revenge is needed. So, Damian made a few phone calls. Over the course of the next week he would have enough video and audio evidence to prove his little sister is innocent. But what would really put the icing on the cake is if he could convince the principal to hold a career day or week. Granted it shouldn’t be too hard, he is the only blood son of Bruce Wayne after all. So, telling his sister that he would meet her after fencing practice he went off early in search of principal Damocles. He found the man quite simply and was it far too easy to convince the man to go to career day parents of the students will be able to come in to do you demonstrations or speeches as well as anyone else who they would like to invite.
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Damian left for his fencing practice which left me packing up my things getting ready to leave. I was one of the last ones out so of course something had to happen. Adrien came up to me then “hey Mari can we talk.”
‘Sigh’ “If this is about the highroad again Adrien. Her lies are hurting people it doesn’t matter if you think it’s right, she’s hurting people’s futures their chances it…” He cut her off, great this is going wonderfully.
“It’s not that, well it is that but that’s not what I wanted to talk to you about.” He was stumbling over his words and she softened her expression slightly “Marinette what’s the difference between infatuation and love?”
“What?” That was not what she was expecting. This is confusing, and where was this coming from anyways. Never mind why “can you explain it to me more I’m having a little trouble wrapping my head around the question.”
He had sheepish smile and started “I. I love ladybug but I’m not sure if I love her or what she represents more”
“You don’t know if you like the idea of her more than the person who she is?” Marinette asked him seeming to understand where this conversation was going. 
“before we go even further down this rabbit hole, Adrien why don’t we meet up somewhere more private”
“why? “
Marinette simply pointed towards the door “We seem to have gained an audience”          
There at the door was Alya filming but unknown to her someone else was behind her. “Bean we have to go” Alya you jumped at the sound of Tim’s voice.
“OK Tim I’ll be out just give me a minute,” Tim nodded and left Alya having scurried off when she was found out. “I’ll text you place and time to meet up and talk further that is if you’re still confused about your feelings about this girl”
“Sounds good and thank you Marinette” he whispered as she left the room. Once she got to the car she glanced at him oh no, was the only thing that went through her mind “you look like a cat who ate the canary Tim spill” she was moving in to tickle him to get the info out. “Fine, fine, fine I give I’ll tell, but” she shot him a look. “only if you make me some coffee, today feels like an all-nighter”
“Deal! Now spill”
“Damian set up that next week there is going to be career days for the entire week at the school.”
“Okay” she nodded her head understanding where her brothers’ train of thoughts were heading. “The career week will be the perfect opportunity to expose the rest of Lila’s lies. At least that’s what you and Damian are hoping to accomplish isn’t it.”
“Mari, you do know you’re my favorite sister” Tim replied with a smirk that would rival even Damian’s.
So, the two of them got to work. Damian may think he’s clever and the most discrete out of everyone, but he wasn’t able to pull off hiding the cameras and microphones well enough that Mari wasn’t able to figure it out. This means they are going to have plenty of video and audio evidence use against the liar.
Now when Damian got home from practice the three of them really set out to destroy the liar. With all the audio evidence as well as the footage proving it was Lila speaking Marinette made several phone calls.
Jagged and Clara were both on board completely and wholeheartedly, especially after hearing what was going on. With those two she called the principal and he had agreed to keep them as a special surprise for the last day.
She called her father and he was willing to fly out to speak on one of the first days. Her father also happened to be able to get into contact with Prince Ali, and once hearing of everything that was going on, he to agree to come and speak.
Damian had called the Kent’s so Lois Lane, Clark and, and Jon were all going to come to speak, well Lois Lane in Clark were going to speak, Jon was coming to hang out with his two best friends.
Once Mr. Kent heard it was going on well it wasn’t long afterwards for Barry Allen to come to speak about forensics science, Oliver Queen to speak further on different aspects of business, and several other members of the league who seem to have fallen in love with Mari.
Everyone knew that as soon as Lila saw the names on the list, she would be tempted to spread the lies about every single one of them, so they would continue to record everything that was said in the class.
And who’s to say that a couple of the heroes may or may not make an appearance was well, but it was to be determined if Lila lied about them or not. Within the hour the three Wayne siblings knew, oh they knew this liar would not have a chance to escape. And anyone left believing her by the end of the week, well they felt sorry for those poor souls who still believe her every word.
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After about two hours getting our allies ready for the incoming slaughter of the liar I met up with Adrien. And that was different.
“Mari” Adrien seem unsure of how to start. We had we decided it would’ve been best to meet up at the Wayne Enterprises Paris branch that way we can have a conference room to discuss it somewhere private, I won’t have to worry about people eavesdropping. Well everyone except for my brothers but it’s a price I’m willing to pay. “This is the first crush I’ve ever had, I, I don’t know…”
“Adrien I’ve known you now for about a year. You are quite honestly still sheltered. Well that’s the best way I can describe it.”
“What I’m not! I’m no?” Adrien began to stutter because that was not where the conversation was originally going.
“Adrien you are still quite sheltered. The way you think things should be handles when it comes to lies or personal space is the same way that people deal with the paparazzi and those are not the same at all. But I’m saying that because it’s normal to be confused when it comes to a crush. I had a crush on you for the longest time and was unsure how to act on it. I got to know about you a bit more and the crush well it changed.” He was looking at me shocked by my proclamation.
“How? Why? What are you mean? I’m not.” Adrien seemed a little taken back before he finally decided what he was going to say. “You said had?”
“I had the biggest crush on you until I learned you were a coward, or what seemed like cowardace. You decided that someone you didn’t know was more important than the person you claim to be a friend. This past week has shown me that you are a pacifist, not a coward, but you strive for peace with everyone. but that’s not how everything goes. I learned that about you that’s what made me move on. So what is it about this girl that makes you stay or is there something about someone else who makes you want to stay with them instead?“ He was silent he wasn’t staring at me, but he was starting off into space. He seemed to not know exactly what to say, but the thought was there. 
“Ladybug she’s my…” He was about to say something but stopped himself, almost as if he knows her as more than just the heroine. But that is not possible the only ones who interact with her while in the mask are now her family and…
“Your Chat Noir” she said it’s so calmly and as such a fact that he just stared at her calm and unblinking until the inevitable freak out which cost him to pass out. Great now she’s stuck at a conference room trying to revive her partner who doesn’t know she’s his partner. Once he finally came to, she just watched as it to make sure he wasn’t about to faint again.
“I’m not! I can’t be! I’m not superhero, that’s crazy Mari your” he was rambling. In the past month she has perfected the Batman Glare and well Adrien was getting it, because she was not believing the bullshit that was coming out of his mouth.
“Are you paws-itively certain about that Chat.” He went silent, but doesn’t know if it was because of the pun or because she called him Chat.
“How?” Adrien whispered to her.
“Well I figured it out since it seemed like you knew Ladybug more than just a hero.” She stated hoping that her identity was not compromised. “anyways Ladybug’s your partner but what were you going to say afterwards”
“she’s my partner and my best friend. She’s the person who may know me the best out of everyone, except I think that goes to you now” he began to chuckle, but it evolved into full-blown laughter and Mari couldn’t help but laugh along with him.
“You know it makes a lot of sense of your Chat. Chat is always carefree and bubbly, but he always makes sure to keep it professional. Sure, flirting in the middle of the battle isn’t the best. But knowing Adrien and Chat Noir are the same person makes the whole so much more. What’s the word complete” she muses tapping her chin.
“Ladybug is the hero Paris deserves. But I don’t think I love her. I thought I did. I thought about this a lot, I love that when I was with her, I was free. I don’t know the girl underneath the mask. But I do you know the girl beneath the mask is strong and courageous. She is undoubtably amazing. But maybe you are figuring out my identity snapped things into focus, because I love the way I feel around her. But I also love the way I feel about my friends. Thank you, Mari.”
“For what I haven’t said anything this was all you.”
“Exactly, I needed someone to hear me, and not force me into a conclusion they thought was best. And at this point you are my first true friend. Can we. Can we be friends again Marinette?”
Mari looked at him for a second and then broke into a smile. “Of course, Adrien we’re friends”
“Good now let’s bring down a liar”
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Of course the week leading up to career week was unexpectedly full of lies, all coming out of the Italians mouth. Oh, Barry Allen yeah she met him on Central city oh Oliver Queen she once saw him at a charity event in Star City oh she’s practically Lois Lane and Clark Kent‘s daughter, Jonathan their son, is her best friend. The list goes on and on. Everyone on the left side excluding Adrien do believe every word that came out of her mouth. The three in the very back on the right side, being herself, Damian, and Chloe couldn’t contain their laughter. This usually resulted in a Alya yelling at them from laughing that of course Lila wouldn’t be lying and then defending Lila as she began to cry her crocodile tears.
The entire school was informed that the entirety of career week was mandatory and missing a single speaker would be equivalent to failing a midterm for and class, meaning there was no skipping at all.        
 Monday
Today there were three guest speakers, them being Bruce Wayne, Prince Ali, and John Stewart.
Prince Ali was the first to go up go up and just let’s just say that many people we surprised that he did not do go green charities but in fact did children’s charities called a few things in the question specifically from Rose and Mylene.
Luckily for Lila she didn’t lie much about John Stewart, who spoke of his time as a marine and about currently being an architect, but that was a short-lived victory on her part, when he showed up as the final school guest at the end of the day as Green Lantern. He gave her a speech about honesty and the importance of discipline and hard work in order to succeed.
Bruce spoke about honesty and a hard work when building a company as well as the importance of working with reputable companies and brands.
At the end of the day she had two ceases and desists, one from Prince Ali and one from the Wayne family.
On the bright side a new Wayne charity was in the works alongside Prince Ali for children’s medicine.
 Tuesday
Was Barry Allen who spoke about pursuing forensic sciences and the work he does alongside the police.  
Wonder Woman who was speaking as an ambassador of Themyscira, and way at being an ambassador entailed. 
And Mayor Bourgeois spoke on what it means to be a part of the political and legislative sectors of the government.
Again, Lila received two cease and desists from Barry Allen and Wonder Woman respectively.
 Wednesday
Went similar to the previous two. Oliver Queen spoke about ways to modify businesses and expanding them in order to change with consumers.
Wang Cheng, Marinette’s uncle, spoke and gave a demonstration of cooking techniques for the school.
Tomoe Tsurugi, Kagami’s mother, spoke about fencing and also about ableism against disability, mainly that even being blind she can hand many fencers their asses without breaking a sweat.
Lila only received one cease and desist.
 Thursday
Nora, Alya’s sister, spoke of being a professional boxer and the training she does for it.
Lois and Clark gave a joint presentation, and of course Alya wanted her idols to review her blog. And well that did not go so well for her, Lois tore her interviews with Lila apart stating she gives no further evidence and simply takes what the girl says at face value. However other interviews she did provide more links to her information which prove she is a capable journalist, but there is room to grow.
The Kent’s also presented Lila a cease and desist, luckily for Alya she hadn’t posted anything in the past two weeks since Marinette’s return about anything Lila had said, and she was glad for that right now.
 Friday
Jagged Stone and Clara started Friday with a mini concert, that included a special duet with the two artists. Jagged spoke about Rock’n Roll and the changes and subcategories of the genre.
Clara Nightingale spoke on the pop side of the music industry and how she got started at a young age, as well as her background in dance and choreography.
Gabriel Agreste was the final speaker, we’ll he was on video call actually, and spoke on the fashion industry, the standards that come with the consumer market, and the way public opinion shapes brands and companies.
Gabriel was about to log off when Jagged walked in front of the camera.
“Too true Agreste, public opinion does shape the way many of those who have spoken this past week” many don’t know this about Jagged but mess with his family and he will not hold back. “That is why you should know, your model, Lila Rossi has had a total six cease and desists field against her this past week. As un-Rock’n roll as it is Clara and I will be adding two more to that list. I will also be suing for defamation of character as well. Clara?”
“Lies and cheats, make for poor feats. I will also be suing as well for defamation of character. This has made me so mad I can’t even come up with a rhyme.” She called out to the crowd.
“So Agreste, how will your totally not Rock’n Roll model affect your business?” Jagged asked. Everyone was watching the screen for Gabriel’s reaction.
“It would seem it is best we terminated contact Miss Rossi. Also, Adrien.” The poor boy practically jumped in his seat.
“Yes”
“There will be no contact between you and Miss Rossi until we are able to discuss this further. Goodbye”
The entire school was in a shocked silence. This final day as set up so the whole school would see it altogether.
Lila began to cry until she became furious. She jumped from her seat and yelled. “You did this! You set me up! You ruined my entire empire Marinette!” She was glaring daggers at me.
“If it’s any consolation to you Lila you made me miserable for eight months. You took my friends, those I’ve known since I was practically in diapers. You made my life hell and if that’s consolation to you fine. I will also be suing you for slander and defamation of character. But just know this I have people who genuinely care for me and I’m sorry if you felt threatened by me to blame all this on me, but I don’t care about your opinion or the opinion of those who turned on me without batting an eye not anymore.” It’s so liberating to say that to them. Oh, a weight has been lifted off my chest and so I walked out of the school side-by-side with Damian, Adrien, and Chloe with my head held high. And for the first time and I can’t remember when I could breathe. They weren’t going to hold me down any longer.
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Just for to clear this up Marinette is the youngest out of all the children. She and Damian are the same age but he is older by a few months.
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universallywriting · 3 years
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There is a controversy in the mlb fandom about the origin of Adrien. I was wondering if I could ask you to not address it? I have strong opinions on it, and I would find it hard to disagree with you.
I recently found out that a lot of people talk about stuff like this as in trying to figure out what will happen in the show. I'd like to add a disclaimer that I don't do that, and I literally talk about this stuff based on the idea of whether or not I think it would be a good idea for a show to go in this direction. People make writing decisions I hate all the time, and Miraculous is... I mean. I can't predict this show. Jesus.
Sooooooo anyway I don't get the point of sentimonster!Adrien. If you do, and you like it, there's nothing wrong with that. This is just my take.
I see a lot of people talk about how it could be true, but never really a why. I can't imagine what him being a sentimonster would add to the story. He's already sad. He's already directly connected to the villains. He's already struggling with find his own purpose.
It would make him sadder, sure, but he's already so goddamn sad I can't see why it would matter? There wouldn't be questions over his personhood, because sentimonster!Ladybug was immediately welcomed as a full person with her own thoughts, opinions, desires, ability to change, etc. If Adrien was a sentimonster, it'd be kind of weird if they all started having a problem with it when it took them about three minutes to accept other sentimonsters as people.
He would be more fragile, because he would have a feather that could be destroyed or be destroyed by any holder of the peacock miraculous, and that could probably make for some exciting plot lines? But, I mean, Chat gets kidnapped and nearly murdered every other Tuesday so it's not like villains don't do this regularly already. I could see doing fun stuff with it, but I don't even think it would change the story that much considering Chat's current role as frequent damsel in distress and villain bait, lol.
I've seen people talking about using the wish to make Adrien a real boy, but because Ladybug and Chat literally have the power to make that wish at any time because they are the holders of those miraculous, it's not like they have a quest to hunt the same thing the villain is hunting. So then it's just a matter of what the price would be, and it's just a question of whether real boy status is worth paying. Which, considering it's word of god that the only downsides to sentimonster life is A) immortality and B) being fragile, it's gonna be pretty hard to justify paying almost anything to make Adrien human.
Here's where I'll just brace myself for backlash and let it hit me, because, like... okay I think the internet is just really obsessed with Sad White Boys. Fandom loves Sad White Boys. If there is a way to make the story more about a Sad White Boy, especially if it makes him Sadder, fandom will latch onto it. People love that.
But, like... I just don't. Ever since I was born media has insisted that I empathize with these stories about Sad White Boys and I do, but I'm also really fucking bored of that story. I'm not white or a boy and I'm not really especially into boys in general and I'm sad but, like, humblebrag - my trauma's real deep so these boys aren't as sad as me - so like eeeehhhh?
Adrien has a great story set up already - he's the villain's son, he struggles with what he wants to do with his life, his strict upbringing means that there would be chaos if he tried to date Marinette, etc. He has lots of problems, and I'd really just rather see his character develop through those problems rather than just keep adding onto his ever growing misery pile. He's already a fantastic compelling character. Let's just develop him with what he has.
I mean, he's literally currently in an arc where he's processing his jealousy and discomfort over Ladybug relying on others more than him despite their partner status. That's a great storyline that literally just popped up. I'd rather just focus on that than keep adding onto his crying scene pile because he was never a real boy.
All that being said, if it does happen in the show, because I'm a heartless monster, I'll honestly just find it hilarious. He's so fuckin sad about his life and he's not even a real boy? Oh. Fantastic. Peak dark comedy. Good soup.
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trustmeifyoudare · 3 years
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The Things We Do (Chapter 19: You Know, Dude, It May Have Possibly Been My Fault)
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Adrien walked into the school. Nino was near the entrance, Alya almost hanging off of him.
“Dude, I am so sorry,” Adrien told Nino.
Nino smiled. “Sorry for what?”
“About you being thrown into a building.”
Nino’s smile fell. “I was hoping that you hadn’t seen that yet. Honestly Dude, I’m fine. The miraculous cure saved me.”
“But you should have never been put in that position in the first place.”
Nino wrapped an arm around Adrien’s shoulders. “It’s not like you had anything to do with it. Don’t worry about me.”
“I'm still going to worry about you,” Alya interrupted.
“I know, Babe.”
Adrien bit his lip. “Ok, I won’t.” Adrien put his hands in his pockets, trying to appear casual. “So there was a new restaurant that just opened, the Ami Jetant. I was wondering if you wanted to come and check it out with me.”
“I thought you said that you weren’t going to worry about me.”
Adrien shrugged. “How is this worrying about you? I’m just asking if you want to hang out.”
“First of all, that new restaurant is way out of my price range.”
“I will pay for you.”
Nino laughed. “That’s exactly my point. And secondly your Dad never lets you out of the house.”
“I’m not seeing the connection.”
Nino shook his head. “You are going to get yourself in trouble just to make sure I am safe.”
“Oh just go,” Alya said.
“You can come, too, Alya,” Adrien told her.
Alya smiled. “Wouldn’t have it any other way.” She paused. “Mind if Marinette tags along?”
“The more the merrier.” Adrien looked back at Nino. “See, not worrying about you.”
Nino stuck his tongue out. 
The four of them went to the restaurant after school. Marinette was her normal tripping-up-words self, completely different from last night. Adrien didn’t think too much about that. Marinette was Marinette.
They all laughed and talked, but Adrien found himself drifting out of the conversation.
He looked up at the television playing. He listened, ignoring what his friends were saying.
“And after last night,” the newscaster said, “Cat Noir has been called a terrorist. Many are pushing for him to be arrested as soon as possible. For those of you who missed it, here is a clip of what happened in the last akuma fight.”
The screen changed to show Cat Noir yeeting Nino into the building. Adrien winced.
“The victim is said to be unharmed. The main person calling for Cat Noir to be arrested is Alya Cesaire, publisher of the Ladyblog, who also happens to be the victim's boyfriend.”
The screen changed to one of the videos of the Ladyblog with Alya right in the middle of the screen. 
“Cat Noir,” she said, “No matter where you are, no matter who you may be, I will never forgive you for hurting him. You will pay. I will make sure of it.”
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