#Patreon drama

[simnostalgia]

TW: Stalking, suicide, death, death threats, Zoophilia, Pedophilia, etc.

This is a long read. Sorry about that. I have lots of thoughts.

A Little Background for Those Not in the Know Regarding Sims "for profit" Modding Drama.

Okay, so I know I've already kind of talked about the implications of the new policy a little, but I haven't really talked about what I personally think about it. This seems like a good time though. I don't really expect many people to read this all the way through but honestly, I just wanted to say something about it.

As some of you know I was the old head of DHM (Dollhouse Mafia) and original founder. I stepped down a while ago because I was spreading myself too thin on personal projects and also, I didn't like the way things were going. I have nothing but good things to say about the current leadership, but it just personally wasn't worth it to me. ANYWAY, that being said, I wanted to put my thoughts about how the community has changed regarding its stance on pay content and how it used to be

So back in the days of TS2 PMBD acted as a receptacle for all pay custom content to be leaked. TSR, way back, was the biggest pay site in the community with several other smaller pay sites that specialized in hair or clothes. These sites generally had a specific style and very obviously made their own content. I couldn't tell you how much creators made but I know that other than TSR users it wasn't a huge amount.

So, The Sims team has pretty obviously always had a love/hate relationship with pay content. Even though it seems to have cooled they used to be VERY close to TSR. I know that they've always had a policy against pay content but it's never been enforced really. Like I said though, the only people who seemed to be making BIG money from non-passive income was TSR.

The reason that I bring this up is that I think the reason that things went so wrong isn't because of pay CC. I'm against pay CC and I always will be, we can talk about paying artists all we want but at the end of the day this is a hobby and if you're trying to use it as your main source of income you're in the wrong but I digress...

EA's Relationship with for profit CC

Fun fact, Patreon was actually started by the voice actor that played Teen/College aged men in TS2. I suspect that he got the idea from watching The Sims community try and set up their own personal online shopfronts and figured there was a way to do it better. I also suspect that many people who worked within The Sims Studio were pro-paysite because it created a demand that kept The Sims brand in people's minds. If people were making a living off of it then it was always being bought and you had people who basically HAD to buy it because that's how they made a living.

When talking about his new NFT (gross.) project Will Wright actually mentioned that one thing he didn't like was that piracy was taking place when Sims players were creating pay CC and others would pirate it. I suspect that the only reason they kept the policy they did was in case creators would make something that rivaled the studio in terms of quality (which according to Don Hopkins was an actual concern and part of the reason that EA's CC tools weren't super powerful, we couldn't create anything "too good")

Like anything to do with money, I think people who were mostly outsiders to the community realized that they could maximize profits through unsavory means such as flipping meshes quickly and reselling them from 3D modelling websites.

The problem is this created a flood of people who started using The Sims as their SOLE income and they began making good money too. Enough that they wouldn't easily be able to make that amount doing anything else without a serious career change.

Low Quality, Quick Profit, Unruly Community

So remember how EA decided they wanted to reach out and start the Game Changer program for the better by doing outreach to players by trying to interact with the community online. Then very recently they were like... trying to start a "sims social platform"? Yeah EA isn't really crazy about the fact that we're a self-sufficient community.

Most other gaming communities that have player made content tend to try and keep that player made content in an official store of some kind. Both so they can monetize it and use it as a selling point and also so they can control what can be done with it. Roblox is a GOOD example of how companies tend this sort of thing to play out. Communities that exploit creators and allow companies to control the player content, so everything aligns with the "brand".

Now, I'm just a person who REALLY likes The Sims and knows a lot about it so take it with a grain of salt but I suspect that EA is trying to find a way to keep us under better control. They've likely seen the messy fights that the patreon creators have been getting in. They've also definitely heard about the wide-spread availability of not just sex mods but sex mods that allow for pedophilia/zoophilia.

People can act like this has happened before in The Sims community but not like this. Before people were getting legal threats here and there and a few people were doing some bad stuff with the game but now we're talking doxxing, half of 4chan has started using The Sims as a sex playground, and people are making crazy money from it. EA was willing to overlook sex mods but I doubt they want a replay of the Jack Thompson case or to get the bad press that Habbo of Secondlife got for being bastions of pedophilia and perversion. It used to be that TSR was one company that made a lot of money and acted like a company acts to protect their business interests. However, now you have several HUNDRED people who were using The Sims as a get quick rich scheme and they were willing to attack community members to keep themselves living well. Not all of them, mind you, but it is an issue.

I suspect EA is worrying how this will look for the brand. It was okay when we were all creating a few mods and making pocket change from custom content. But now, because we've all been content creators we're getting better at it and it's causing problems (TM) for EA.

Both because their overlooking of pay content has backfired as it became more of a business AND because their players started becoming skilled enough to create things that both rivaled their own content and sullied their brand for outsiders and started attracting more and more unsavory types (cough cough ColonolNutty).

TL;DR: EA did this to themselves. They wanted the community to create for their games but didn't consider the outcomes of monetizing it. Now no matter what they do, some group will be mad at them. No matter what they do it's going to result in bad press... And you know what?

#Patreon drama #Patreon #Simblr #The Sims #The Sims 4 #Sims #TS4 #ColonolNutty #Colonol Nutty #WickedWhims #Wicked Whims #Roblox #Habbo Hotel #simblr drama #Sim Nostalgia #Simnostalgia #cowbuilt #Mack3030 #EA #Electronic Arts #Maxis #sex mod #Jack Thompson #Sims patreon #leosims #PMBD #Paysitesmustbedestoryed #pescado #This is EA's fault when you think about it

[dystopianam]

Me watching the creators of paid cc and mod go crazy on Twitter and Tumblr, ranting on the new EA rules while I fear that many will stop making mods and cc's because they are not getting paid because apparently I found out I follow many modders/cc creator who do cc and mod just for the gain and who clearly said they will stop doing it if they don't make money

I won't mention names but I can't deny I'm disappointed. While I supported that creators could earn a small amount for the work, now it annoys me enough to find out how many take advantage of the community.

I've been quiet enough for a long time because having NEVER paid for a cc or a mod but always waiting patiently for the public release I didn't feel in a position to speak but after discovering that the maximum of Early access could be 3 weeks but having waited 4 months for a lots of cc of different creators and that there are creators who ask 90+ $ a month for new meshes I feel quite annoyed

#the sims 4 #the sims 4 patreon drama #patreon drama #the sims 4 ea policy

[peachtonium]

there's actually nothing stopping you from continuing to donate to and support creators you like without them holding their content hostage behind a short term paywall in order to capitalize off of FOMO. if you really believe that creators deserve compensation, then, uh... g...ive... it... to... them??? there shouldn't need to be incentives or bribery involved. pretending like EA is the one taking money away from early access creators instead of people just not wanting to support them without getting something out of it is WEIRD.

#i'm practicing what i preach & keeping my donation subs active #anyway #i would bet at least half of the people saying this are the ones that love to flaunt having early access content #because it makes them feel elitist and special #so now if everyone has it they don't get to be sparkly for 3 weeks 🥺 #how will everyone know they're rich #or that they're the no.1 FaN of [creator name] #pathetic!!!! #to the guillotine with ALL forced payment in the sims #and yes early access is STILL forced payment #especially when it's attached to an outright guilt trip #the way all of u got c*cked by early access is so unhinged #imagine explaining to a simmer from 2007 that we are obligated to pay $ or wait 3 weeks for #because creators deserve the right to withhold content for forced compensation #WEIRD!!! #early access drama #patreon drama #ranting

[hellofromthehallowoods]

Friday the 13th Ink Sketches by Mx. Wellman

You may remember that last year, patrons were able to get their hands on $25 hand-drawn ink doodles by Mx. Wellman! This turned out to be a lovely way to raise some additional support for the Hallowoods holiday season, so this year, I'm opening them to the public.

Orders close November 1st, but the earlier the better if you're aiming to get them in before the holidays. Shipping is included in the cost, and the last wave should mail out November 30th.

Payment is via a Paypal donation, and then submit the form on-site to describe in more detail what you'd like in your sketch!

See the full details and order on the Hallowoods site right here.

#hfth fandom #hfth #hello from the hallowoods #hfthw #hfth patreon #hfth art #mx. wellman #fiction podcasts #audio drama

[bigfatbreak]

i get WHY they put a 30 image limit on posts, but man it Horts to split my updates up into smaller chunks... maybe i just want to post 100 raw frames of drama, whaddaboud dat

#ooc #honestly its not THAT big of a deal #it just means everyone will have drama for. a while in these updates lmao #i have like three updates on patreon that havent hit tumblr yet #and im wincing looking at where ive had to split them #yall gonna be mad at me for WEEKS. for WEEKS

[aeon-borealis]

Alejandro meets Heather's parents and they're already ready for the wedding bells....

If you enjoy my comics and illustrations, consider subscribing to my Patreon. You'll get the PNG file for these fun shenanigans as well as all the Patreon PNGs from October: https://www.patreon.com/TheRScrooge

#aleheather #alejandro x heather #total drama alejandro #tdwt alejandro and heather #td heather parents #alejandro meets heather's parents #alejandro burromuerto #sketch dump #patreon reward #patreon

[tuhbanbuv]

Lol Illuminaughtii can't even break 3k views and 200 likes and is resorting to suing Oz because she can't foreclose him lol

Remember she still has her Patreon and most of what she's done is against Patreon TOS so pls report her to staff!

#illuminaughtii #ozmedia #the click #wonderstruck media #one topic at a time #youtube #patreon #youtube drama #deplatform predators

[deathbydyingpod]

Pssst! Check the Death by Dying feed! We have an exciting new update about our Patreon… and a little somethin’ special… a sneak peek perhaps… 👀👀👀

Become a patron today!

#death by dying #death by dying podcast #patreon #podcast #audio drama

[lonely-space-egg]

Because I was absolutely devouring classic lit last June, it's been a year today since I first read The Picture Of Dorian Gray! These freaks are dear to me <3

also fuck it i'm adding this shitty little color palette ref i made

#technically this is an hour late #but if i go by my bestie's timezone then it's on time <3 #i definitely didn't get consumed by pain and play totk for six hours today instead of working. definitely not #also basil's dialogue is from shadows at the door's drunk picture of dorian gray bonus ep #which is now exclusive to their patreon #but tbh go watch the actual audio drama then sub to their patreon to listen to the bonus ep #peri art #peri talks #peri designs #the picture of dorian gray #tpodg #dorian gray #basil hallward #henry wotton #gothic literature #artists on tumblr #character design #illustration

[girlinspacepodcast]

Just released a new post to my Patreon patrons for the first time since uhhhhhh November 2022. 😬

I know a lot of people can't afford to be patrons (I've been there), so to avoid paywalling important news:

Yes! Season 2 of the Girl In Space audio drama is still in the works! Though there's currently no ETA since I'm still in the writing process and am horrifyingly slow.

A 9-minute bonus episode that I recorded in 2019 and never aired is coming to patrons this Friday, May 26. 👀

A Girl In Space novel is in the works for publication!

I love you.

So yeah, if you want to become a patron and access the full post (and years of content dating back to 2017), here's a link!

https://www.patreon.com/posts/updates-are-hard-83370674

And again, because it can't be said enough, I love you. Take care of yourself, please. <3

— Sarah

#girlinspace #audiodrama #girl in space #audio drama #podcast #audio fiction #audiofiction #girlinspacepodcast #patreon #artist support

[alice-malice-wonderland]

here's a reminder that if you love the midnight burger podcast and you have the solid means to, to subscribe on Patreon. there's producer commentary episodes. there's a BEAUTIFUL community. there's jokes. there's getting episodes a month early.

#midnight burger #midnight burger podcast #caspar midnight burger #pls listen to midnight burger #audio drama #audio fiction #podcast #JOIN THE PATREON

[simnostalgia]

Lol Linda didn't JUST namedrop DeeDee and shit on her content. She downloaded ALL OF DEEDEE'S CONTENT on tumblr looking for stuff that had too big of textures and only found ONE ITEM. She decided to put Deedee on blast for that one issue.

She's going through free creator's stuff in order to find anything she can point out as flawed and say "THESE FREE CREATORS ARE THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE PINK FLASHING!! ONLY ME AND MY PERMA-PAYWALL FRIENDS KNOW HOW TO MAKE CONTENT!! SO BUY FROM US!!"

I guess they're not making enough money rn so they have to whine and bitch about people who provide their stuff for free.

Mean-fucking-while, Linda and her friends are taking meshes from GorillaGorillaGorilla, Bank42, Rimmings, Backtrack CC and MAMY other sims 4 CC creators, converting them to sims 2 and making a profit off of OTHER PEOPLE'S MESHES AND TEXTURES.

They're like "wahhh making good conversions is hard!! I deserve to be payed for the work I do!"

But you know what's even harder? Making models from scratch! If you and your paywall buddies want to understand why people are pissed off at you, Linda, TRY MAKING MESHES FROM SCRATCH YOURSELF. It's not fucking easy. You are making money off of other people's models+textures, including bodyshapes, clothes, furniture and more. This is someone else's hard work you're making a profit off of.

Also. The "pink flashing" is just a fucking excuse. She's like "I have mine and my friends' content in my game and I never experience pink flashing!"

Yeah? Well i guess what? I have content from deedee, fakeblood, R13 and other creators she decides to shit on and I don't experience pink-flashing either! I don't even experience crashing. This is because pink-flashing has nothing to do with high-poly meshes or big textures! I know people who play with no cc at all and get pink-flashing. We still don't know the cause of it.

I bet if Linda got a different laptop, she'd be experiencing pink-flashing left-and-right, because I do have some of her shit from and GOD ARE THEY HIGH POLY AS FUCK.

On another note.. Sorry about the rant; I had to get it out of my system because I don't have a public tumblr blog, but I've been using tumblr to find cc for years, and I've been following this Linda drama since like 2020. It still makes me fucking lividd.

OMFG You're KIDDING. She downloaded ALL of her stuff just to try and be a bitch? Amazing. I knew that she was the worst but I had no idea it was like that.

It's so funny because back in like '21 when we were having all that drama about Sunny targeting pay creators I was always like they suck but honestly live and let pirate, you know? If someone's stupid enough to pay for this shit, let them. I never had a problem as long as they didn't try to impede on pirating. Get your bag, girl.

But what exactly is Linda trying do? Make people feel like paying for content is the only reasonable way to get it?

#patreon #patreon cc #sims patreon #patreon sims #lindasims #sims drama #sims community #The Sims #TS2 #TS4 #TS3

[t4llhum4n]

More EA stuff because I'm starting to notice a trend

Am I the only one low-key siding with Porter a bit? Don't get me wrong, I know Vincent's turning wasn't his choice and he didn't have to be grateful for it by any means, but had Porter known the context, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been so cruel. That "I.. didn't know," sounded genuine, like if he had, then he wouldn't have tried to beat the shit out of him for his insult. Was it stupid of him to make assumptions? Yeah. Was it even more stupid to get violent over rumor? Oh, hell yeah. Can Vincent really blame him for making those assumptions when he had nothing proving him otherwise (besides Sam saying a vague, "don't meddle in things you don't understand")? I mean, not really.

Neither party is right in my eyes -- let me make that clear. I'm just seeing an overwhelming amount of people on Vincent's side saying Porter was the one in the wrong. The way I see it, they were both in the wrong and kinda still are.

Anyway, what the fuck was up with Porter's sabbatical? Bro really said, "yo William didn't kick me out lmao but I'm not elaborating." Like sir. Please do. Please elaborate.

#me posting this hoping it doesn't start drama #pls. i beg of thee. 🙏🏻 #i am merely sharing my opinion #redacted audio #redacted asmr #redactedverse #redacted patreon #srsly the fear i have of this fandom is absurd sometimes #and i'm only half-joking about that #ESPECIALLY when it comes to these fuckers

[asm5129]

I MADE A PATREON

Hello to all my Queers and Dears, Adam here WITH A PATREON! I'm making this because I've got some cool stuff I'm planning and i want to be able to pay everyone involved fairly.

The more people are able to contribute, the more likely I'll be able to not only have a more sustainable payment source for my editor RemnantBardock and keep on top of cool new games for twitch, but also to fund cool projects like an audio drama i have in the works!

I'm still learning how to use this platform properly but you can bet I'll be thinking of some cool perks for those able to contribute.

PLEASE DON'T FEEL BAD IF YOU CANT

#twitch #twitchstreamer #small streamer #video essay #youtube video #video games #video essayists #sustainable #fair pay #content creator #but not content #i hate that word #be kind #voice acting #audio drama #audio fiction #storytelling #patreon #rewards #perks #hopefully more soon!

[simbelene]

I dont feel bad for people like felixandre and harrie. Especially when their patreon stats look like this:

That's earnings per month mind you! People who actually work for EA dont even make that much 🥴

#money hungry #felixandre #felixandresims #heyharrie #sims 4 #sims 4 patreon #simblr #ts4 #sims #sims 4 cc #drama #patreon paywall #anti perma patreon #greed #greedy #scammer #foh

[hinaypod]

Our first early access episode drops Thursday, October 12, at 9PM EST (Toronto time) on our Patreon! Sign up to get episodes 3 days early!

Episode 33 - Libingan (burial place) premieres in for Patreon this Thursday, and the public Youtube premiere will happen this Sunday at 9PM EST!

Support our work on Patreon and get early access to episodes, check out our bonus content, as well as take part in polls!

#early access #hinaypod #hi nay podcast #hi nay #patreon #horror podcast #audio drama #episode 33: libingan